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Title: Deledio free to play / tribunal appeal successful [updated]
Post by: one-eyed on May 05, 2014, 03:28:31 PM
Brett Deledio can accept one game for striking Matthew Stokes.

Matt McDonough cleared contact Steve Johnson.Both players were attempting to take possession & action by McDonough was not a bumping action.

Matthew Stokes can accept one game for striking Steven Morris.

https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane



Edit: Tribunal downgraded the charge to reckless conduct so that's a just a reprimand. Lids is free to play against Melbourne.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Lozza on May 05, 2014, 03:35:27 PM
Great!! :banghead
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 05, 2014, 03:39:43 PM
Would like to see footage
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 05, 2014, 03:48:00 PM
Brett Deledio, Richmond, has been charged with a Level Three Striking Offence (225 demerit points, two-match sanction) for striking Matthew Stokes, Geelong Cats, during the second quarter of the Round Seven match between Richmond and the Geelong Cats, played at the MCG on Sunday May 4, 2014.
 
In summary, due to a six-year good record, his two-match sanction can be reduced to a one-game penalty with an early plea.
 
Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Geelong Cats Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Three Offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has an existing six-year good record, reducing the penalty by 25 per cent 168.75 points and a one-match sanction. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 126.56 demerit points and a one-match sanction.

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Contact between the Geelong Cats’ Steve Johnson and Richmond’s Matt McDonough from the first quarter of Sunday’s match was assessed. Johnson and Richmond’s Bachar Houli had been contesting the ball on the wing area and the ball had come loose. Johnson had won front position over Houli when McDonough came in to contest the ball in a bid win to possession. A head clash occurred between McDonough and Johnson. It was the view of the panel that both players were attempting to take possession of the ball and the action by McDonough was not a bumping action as he tried to win the contest and that therefore the head clash was deemed accidental. No further action was taken.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-05/mrp-full-statement-round-seven
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Golfprotiger on May 05, 2014, 03:51:45 PM
Would like to see footage

X2........WTF!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 05, 2014, 03:52:49 PM
lol where's the footage AFL muppets? 2 weeks even haha
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: mightytiges on May 05, 2014, 03:55:54 PM
No idea what incident they are talking about lol but welcome to the weekly MRP russian roulette  ::). It's a joke!

Lids has nothing to lose fighting the charge at the tribunal. If it's incidental contact in the wet conditions then fight it all the way to get off. Otherwise, at least aim to get the 'intentional' charge downgraded to 'reckless'. If successful, Lids would then only end up with a reprimand and be able to play against Melbourne.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 05, 2014, 03:59:21 PM
No idea what incident they are talking about lol but welcome to the weekly MRP russian roulette  ::). It's a joke!

Lids has nothing to lose fighting the charge at the tribunal. If it's incidental contact in the wet conditions then fight it all the way to get off. Otherwise, at least aim to get the 'intentional' charge downgraded to 'reckless'. If successful, Lids would then only end up with a reprimand and be able to play against Melbourne.

How do you know he has nothing to lose? and where's the footage? Don't tell me there isn't any footage lol
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 05, 2014, 04:02:10 PM
Must admit I can't remember seeing it on TV.  The TV stations usually love highlighting these things over and over and over again too. :whistle
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: mightytiges on May 05, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
No idea what incident they are talking about lol but welcome to the weekly MRP russian roulette  ::). It's a joke!

Lids has nothing to lose fighting the charge at the tribunal. If it's incidental contact in the wet conditions then fight it all the way to get off. Otherwise, at least aim to get the 'intentional' charge downgraded to 'reckless'. If successful, Lids would then only end up with a reprimand and be able to play against Melbourne.

How do you know he has nothing to lose? and where's the footage? Don't tell me there isn't any footage lol
Not taking the early plea won't cost him any more weeks. It's one week whether he takes the early plea or not. So he's got nothing to lose challenging this at the tribunal.

"... 168.75 points and a one-match sanction. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 126.56 demerit points and a one-match sanction."
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 05, 2014, 04:10:40 PM
No idea what incident they are talking about lol but welcome to the weekly MRP russian roulette  ::). It's a joke!

Lids has nothing to lose fighting the charge at the tribunal. If it's incidental contact in the wet conditions then fight it all the way to get off. Otherwise, at least aim to get the 'intentional' charge downgraded to 'reckless'. If successful, Lids would then only end up with a reprimand and be able to play against Melbourne.

How do you know he has nothing to lose? and where's the footage? Don't tell me there isn't any footage lol
Not taking the early plea won't cost him any more weeks. It's one week whether he takes the early plea or not. So he's got nothing to lose challenging this at the tribunal.

"... 168.75 points and a one-match sanction. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 126.56 demerit points and a one-match sanction."

We'll then we'd be silly not challenge it. Won't get off because the map are *%#^ but
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: TigerMonk on May 05, 2014, 04:21:25 PM
No idea what incident they are talking about lol but welcome to the weekly MRP russian roulette  ::). It's a joke!

Lids has nothing to lose fighting the charge at the tribunal. If it's incidental contact in the wet conditions then fight it all the way to get off. Otherwise, at least aim to get the 'intentional' charge downgraded to 'reckless'. If successful, Lids would then only end up with a reprimand and be able to play against Melbourne.

This is the incident l mentioned to you during the game l 1st thought lids dropped the player with a perfect punch & then Newman was on top of the Geelong player very quickly. Then l thought maybe it was Newman & in the same incident Morris had Stokes
 
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: dwaino on May 05, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
geez Louise
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: mightytiges on May 05, 2014, 04:32:27 PM
No idea what incident they are talking about lol but welcome to the weekly MRP russian roulette  ::). It's a joke!

Lids has nothing to lose fighting the charge at the tribunal. If it's incidental contact in the wet conditions then fight it all the way to get off. Otherwise, at least aim to get the 'intentional' charge downgraded to 'reckless'. If successful, Lids would then only end up with a reprimand and be able to play against Melbourne.

This is the incident l mentioned to you during the game l 1st thought lids dropped the player with a perfect punch & then Newman was on top of the Geelong player very quickly. Then l thought maybe it was Newman & in the same incident Morris had Stokes
I could be wrong but what I saw/remember in that incident was Taylor Hunt trash talking Lids (he was tagging Lids at that stage) after the goal and then Newy and I think Duncan came in and Newy dumped Duncan down on the ground. I don't remember Stokes being anywhere need Lids in that incident but I could be wrong.

Like everyone here I'm waiting for the footage of what Lids has allegedly done. Dermie on SEN just before said Lids was very lucky to get just a week but didn't mention or elaborate what actually happened.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 05, 2014, 04:32:44 PM
No idea what incident they are talking about lol but welcome to the weekly MRP russian roulette  ::). It's a joke!

Lids has nothing to lose fighting the charge at the tribunal. If it's incidental contact in the wet conditions then fight it all the way to get off. Otherwise, at least aim to get the 'intentional' charge downgraded to 'reckless'. If successful, Lids would then only end up with a reprimand and be able to play against Melbourne.

This is the incident l mentioned to you during the game l 1st thought lids dropped the player with a perfect punch & then Newman was on top of the Geelong player very quickly. Then l thought maybe it was Newman & in the same incident Morris had Stokes

Bullwackers
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: TigerMonk on May 05, 2014, 04:35:45 PM
Must admit I can't remember seeing it on TV.  The TV stations usually love highlighting these things over and over and over again too. :whistle

if you look in the game topic you will see where l posted it  ;D
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: TigerMonk on May 05, 2014, 04:37:22 PM
Richmond players always get suspended by the MRP, they hate us. Bet Stokes get overlooked
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: TigerMonk on May 05, 2014, 04:40:17 PM
The incident was just on now on fox sport replay its at 18.10 to go 2nd quarter
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: mightytiges on May 05, 2014, 04:42:01 PM
Richmond players always get suspended by the MRP, they hate us. Bet Stokes get overlooked
Stokes got a week for striking Morris.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: big tone on May 05, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
The incident was just on now on fox sport replay its at 18.10 to go 2nd quarter
Yer just saw it too. There must be better footage than they just showed otherwise all you see is a scuffle in which a Lids gets a free kick, taken by Vickory in the middle of the ground.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: mightytiges on May 05, 2014, 04:47:09 PM
Here's the footage of when it happened apparently.

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-05-04/tempers-flare-at-the-g

Look at the 0.07 sec mark in the video. BF claiming "apparently he threw an elbow into stokes face that started the melee".

Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 05, 2014, 04:47:44 PM
The footage is on the RFC website.  It was taken from high up.  Occurs very quickly and he is pushed into Stokes too.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-05-05/round-7-deledio-striking-charge
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: dwaino on May 05, 2014, 04:48:31 PM
lol he gets rag dolled by a few players, gets a free kick and is suspended. dat gud smart  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: TigerMonk on May 05, 2014, 04:52:05 PM
So Lids get the free kick for what exactly. high contact or whatever they did to him he reacted very sharp & quick cause Newman was on top of the player very quick & others got into it  ;D just what l like to see a biff match. Hope this starts a ongoing rumble
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: TigerMonk on May 05, 2014, 04:54:12 PM
The footage is on the RFC website.  It was taken from high up.  Occurs very quickly and he is pushed into Stokes too.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-05-05/round-7-deledio-striking-charge

There was alot better footage on the TV
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 05, 2014, 04:55:16 PM
The footage is on the RFC website.  It was taken from high up.  Occurs very quickly and he is pushed into Stokes too.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-05-05/round-7-deledio-striking-charge

This is the actual footage the used to suspend him? Absolute joke if that's the case. Both of the vids show nothing
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: big tone on May 05, 2014, 04:55:53 PM
I would be fighting that, footage shows nothing. Act like a big club Tigers and stand up for one of your players. We ask the players to be brave, I hope the club is. F+^king joke the whole system!
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 05, 2014, 04:56:06 PM
The footage is on the RFC website.  It was taken from high up.  Occurs very quickly and he is pushed into Stokes too.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-05-05/round-7-deledio-striking-charge

There was alot better footage on the TV

The footage from tv is the same
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: tony_montana on May 05, 2014, 05:00:31 PM
Sounds as though Geelongs medical report has had an influence on the decision. Bunch of wankers, we should fight it, that footage is crap
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 05, 2014, 05:02:16 PM
Just doesnt make sense.  :huh

You cant see poot from that angle.

The afl probably wants to Melbourne to win at all costs in round 9
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: TigerMonk on May 05, 2014, 05:03:00 PM
l just rewind the live replay on foxsports & the geelong player crashes into them & 2 geelong players go down. Deledio should contest it l cant see how them pricks get a report out of that & not report Stokes or Morris
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 05, 2014, 05:04:48 PM
 :birthday

I dont mind a bit of biffo.
If that what it takes to make us a more hardened team im all for it.

Im sick of being the softest team in the league. Weve been the pansy team for too long.
I'd like to see someone go in to deck the tagger and keep on decking him until he learns not to mess with our captain.
I reckon this mob needs to harden up and start picking fights & not letting teams like geelong push 'em around anymore.
It bloody makes me sick!!! :chuck

Well done Deledio for leading the way.  :clapping :clapping :clapping

If we are going to lose then lose swinging!!!! 
Maybe we can at least be feared again even if its for being a bunch of hard arses.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 05, 2014, 05:05:52 PM
:birthday

I dont mind a bit of biffo.
If that what it takes to make us a more hardened team im all for it.

Im sick of being the softest team in the league. Weve been the pansy team for too long.
I'd like to see someone go in to deck the tagger and keep on decking him until he learns not to mess with our captain.
I reckon this mob needs to harden up and start picking fights & not letting teams like geelong push 'em around anymore.
It bloody makes me sick!!! :chuck

Well done Deledio for leading the way.  :clapping :clapping :clapping

If we are going to lose then lose swinging!!!! 
Maybe we can at least be feared again even if its for being a bunch of hard arses.
:clapping :clapping :clapping
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: mightytiges on May 05, 2014, 05:07:20 PM
The footage is on the RFC website.  It was taken from high up.  Occurs very quickly and he is pushed into Stokes too.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-05-05/round-7-deledio-striking-charge
You can't ping someone using that footage from that distance. No certainty what happened there and where if it did occur did it collect Stokes. Oops silly me it's the MRP we are talking about  ::). Clearly if it did occur then it was with such force that Stokes barely flinched and was able to get involved in the melee and play out the rest of the game  ::).
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: TigerMonk on May 05, 2014, 05:08:46 PM
was that Deledio that dropped that cat player fronting him

this is what l post in the other topic during the game just after it happened
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 05, 2014, 05:09:50 PM
The footage is on the RFC website.  It was taken from high up.  Occurs very quickly and he is pushed into Stokes too.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-05-05/round-7-deledio-striking-charge
You can't ping someone using that footage from that distance. No certainty what happened there and where if it did occur did it collect Stokes. Oops silly me it's the MRP we are talking about  ::). Clearly if it did occur then it was with such force that Stokes barely flinched and was able to get involved in the melee and play out the rest of the game  ::).
Correct.  Gibson can knock out Conca with a blow to the head and get off. A glance by Deledio and barely touches Stokes and it's a grade 3 striking offence. :gobdrop
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: TigerLand on May 05, 2014, 05:10:02 PM
TM the footage linked is the TV footage shown. There is a wider angle footage that was shown where you see Stokes and Lids coming together just before the melee and it certainly looks like Lids makes contact with Stokes with his right arm as he tried to run back to the middle. Looks more of a shove to the chest as Stokes doesn't seem to react or hold his face. Its from a higher angle its impossible to see whether he hit him high or not. Stoke certainly doesn't react to it with any sort of pain. Can't have been with much force.

Stokes didn't go to remonstrate with Deledio, he stayed back, can't have been that bad. If you get elbowed to the face genuinely you react by holding your face or kicking back your head from the shock of the action.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Golfprotiger on May 05, 2014, 05:12:14 PM
Hope RFC has big enough pills to fight that, what a joke! If that is the footage used please..... Stokes does not even react apart from giving some back, should get off that you'd reckon.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: tony_montana on May 05, 2014, 05:15:16 PM
Here we go, this shows it clearly.. don't think contact was strong enough to warrant even low impact, which makes it even more certain the cats have ratted him out. behindholes!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-05/mrp-full-statement-round-seven (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-05/mrp-full-statement-round-seven)
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 05, 2014, 05:15:28 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-05/mrp-full-statement-round-seven
Much more clear there.
For me there is not enough force to warrant a report.  That is what I would be appealing.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: TigerMonk on May 05, 2014, 05:16:10 PM
l think they have got it wrong & it was not Stokes that got hit. 2 Geelong players hit the deck. Newman was on top of the player that was struck to the ground & Stokes was fighting with Morris. The umpires make a mistake  ;D
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: tony_montana on May 05, 2014, 05:16:28 PM
Got ya by 12 seconds ybb  hehe
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 05, 2014, 05:18:08 PM
Got ya by 12 seconds ybb  hehe
Darn! :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: tony_montana on May 05, 2014, 05:20:17 PM
Got ya by 12 seconds ybb  hehe
Darn! :banghead :banghead

great minds, comments were similar too  :cheers
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: 1965 on May 05, 2014, 05:20:51 PM


He is gawn

 :(
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 05, 2014, 05:21:15 PM
Got ya by 12 seconds ybb  hehe
Darn! :banghead :banghead

great minds, comments were similar too  :cheers
:cheers
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: dwaino on May 05, 2014, 05:21:57 PM
Get a room.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: TigerMonk on May 05, 2014, 05:23:58 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-05/mrp-full-statement-round-seven
Much more clear there.
For me there is not enough force to warrant a report.  That is what I would be appealing.

Thats the one l seen. his gone  ;D Morris should have finished that little prick off. Newman was the other one l also seen  ;D
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: tony_montana on May 05, 2014, 05:26:54 PM
Get a room.

 :cuddles
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 05, 2014, 05:45:33 PM
The 3rd video clearly shows it. Poor from lids but will we challenge ? Do we have anything to lose ?
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 05, 2014, 05:46:47 PM
Can I ask what exactly constitutes insufficient force to warrant a report??????

Whose eminent opinion is it????
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: tony_montana on May 05, 2014, 05:52:49 PM
throw a dart at a wall..

remember when glass smashed wingard and wingard went to hospital for observations? that was officially graded as low impact. ::) ::) ::)

nuff said
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Go Richo 12 on May 05, 2014, 05:57:07 PM
Yeah, silly from lids as he was crappy about falling over and gifting goal, which won't help him much. Having said that, when are the AFL going to crack down on players getting into another players face? Sellwood did the same to Newy last year. Reckon I would raise an arm too if someone came at me.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Owl on May 05, 2014, 06:21:12 PM
Good job Lids.  Spread his snot box across his chevy chase next time, he might think twice about giving you the shell grits. 
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: (•))(©™ on May 05, 2014, 06:29:29 PM
more of it boys.

More they do, the more they'll get away with
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: MintOnLamb on May 05, 2014, 06:30:49 PM
Good job Lids.  Spread his snot box across his chevy chase next time, he might think twice about giving you the shell grits.
[/quote
Like getting booked for 64 in a 60 zone,
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: bojangles17 on May 05, 2014, 06:41:26 PM
What a load of crap, don't think they'll fight it, never win and there goes another week
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 05, 2014, 07:03:29 PM
What a load of crap, don't think they'll fight it, never win and there goes another week
Why not.  Nothing to lose.  It will still be a week anyway.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 05, 2014, 07:14:52 PM
 :-\

(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/matchreviewpanel/Lidsreport5.jpg)

(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/matchreviewpanel/Lidsreport6.jpg)
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 05, 2014, 07:16:31 PM
:-\

(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/matchreviewpanel/Lidsreport5.jpg)

(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/matchreviewpanel/Lidsreport6.jpg)
So what?  We see that almost every week and there is no report because of insufficient force….
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: (•))(©™ on May 05, 2014, 07:27:29 PM
Im fairness,
I did hear him say, prior to contact,
"I'm gonna be swinging my elbow like this and if anyone gets in the way, it's their fault"
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: WA Tiger on May 05, 2014, 07:35:19 PM
Yeah we need this, FFS.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 05, 2014, 07:36:27 PM
The footage is on the RFC website.  It was taken from high up.  Occurs very quickly and he is pushed into Stokes too.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-05-05/round-7-deledio-striking-charge
You can't ping someone using that footage from that distance. No certainty what happened there and where if it did occur did it collect Stokes. Oops silly me it's the MRP we are talking about  ::). Clearly if it did occur then it was with such force that Stokes barely flinched and was able to get involved in the melee and play out the rest of the game  ::).
Correct.  Gibson can knock out Conca with a blow to the head and get off. A glance by Deledio and barely touches Stokes and it's a grade 3 striking offence. :gobdrop

Gibson had both feet off the ground and was 5 seconds late but anyway.
Moral to the story. The UFO sighting striking charge. We think it happened so it must have hapenned.
If we know what happened then we can downgrade it simplify and with good behaviour we can let you off. Garbage. Anyone who hits that little drug dealer should be let off. Community grounds.

Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 05, 2014, 07:37:44 PM
:-\

(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/matchreviewpanel/Lidsreport5.jpg)

(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/matchreviewpanel/Lidsreport6.jpg)
So what?  We see that almost every week and there is no report because of insufficient force….
I reckon that elbow has been photoshopped in,  :shh
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 05, 2014, 07:41:55 PM
The MRP really have gone out of their way to get that footage.

I reckon Geelong made a complaint for sure. Effing country preppies
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 05, 2014, 07:44:29 PM
The footage is on the RFC website.  It was taken from high up.  Occurs very quickly and he is pushed into Stokes too.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-05-05/round-7-deledio-striking-charge
You can't ping someone using that footage from that distance. No certainty what happened there and where if it did occur did it collect Stokes. Oops silly me it's the MRP we are talking about  ::). Clearly if it did occur then it was with such force that Stokes barely flinched and was able to get involved in the melee and play out the rest of the game  ::).
Correct.  Gibson can knock out Conca with a blow to the head and get off. A glance by Deledio and barely touches Stokes and it's a grade 3 striking offence. :gobdrop

Gibson had both feet off the ground and was 5 seconds late but anyway.
Moral to the story. The UFO sighting striking charge. We think it happened so it must have hapenned.
If we know what happened then we can downgrade it simplify and with good behaviour we can let you off. Garbage. Anyone who hits that little drug dealer should be let off. Community grounds.
Gibson's was classed as negligent contact, medium impact, high contact = reprimand.

It's the "intentional" contact that is rubbing out Lids. He needs to try and get it reduced somehow down to "reckless".
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Penelope on May 05, 2014, 07:46:26 PM
stuff me, he wasn't even looking at him when he struck him.Tuckers comparison to the gibson incident is apt.
these filthy rooster gobblers are a disgrace, as is is the emphasis on result rather than intent.
stuff me, looking at the link tony gave,even viney is being screwed for being hard at the ball.

girly softies can GFTS
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 05, 2014, 08:08:41 PM
stuff me, he wasn't even looking at him when he struck him.Tuckers comparison to the gibson incident is apt.
these filthy rooster gobblers are a disgrace, as is is the emphasis on result rather than intent.
stuff me, looking at the link tony gave,even viney is being screwed for being hard at the ball.

girly softies can GFTS
:lol :clapping :lol
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 05, 2014, 08:41:05 PM
As a comparison, Winderlich last week copped a reprimand for something similar because it was judged as reckless rather than intentional conduct ...

Go to 6:00 min mark to see the vision: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-04-29/the-verdict-round-six


Jason Winderlich, Essendon, has been charged with a Level One Striking Offence (125 demerit points, one-match sanction) for striking Nick Maxwell, Collingwood, during the third quarter of the Round Six match between Essendon and Collingwood, played at the MCG on Friday April 25, 2014.
 
In summary, due to a six-year good record, he can accept a reprimand and 70.31 demerit points towards his future record with an early plea.
 
Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Collingwood Football Club, the incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level One Offence, drawing 125 demerit points and a one-match sanction. He has an existing six-year good record, reducing the penalty by 25 per cent to a reprimand and 93.75 points towards his future record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to a reprimand and 70.31 demerit points towards his future record.

http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-football-blog/match-review-panel-round-6/20140428-37doi.html
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Penelope on May 05, 2014, 08:48:46 PM
The points system was bought in as a belated attempt to copy the NRL and bring some consistency, but the reality is that it is just as inconsistent and bewildering as it ever was.

staggering that those responsible get good money for overseeing such a balls up.

but it is an inspiration for those which chromosomal disorders the world over that you can reach a position of influence if you know how to play the game 
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 05, 2014, 08:51:51 PM
stuff me, he wasn't even looking at him when he struck him.Tuckers comparison to the gibson incident is apt.
these filthy rooster gobblers are a disgrace, as is is the emphasis on result rather than intent.
stuff me, looking at the link tony gave,even viney is being screwed for being hard at the ball.

girly softies can GFTS

If Conca stayed down for a while had his jaw busted or Richmond submitted a non favourable medical report to the MRP that same incident would have a totally different adjudication.

This is not a match review panel this is merely a panel that is suspending players based on keeping mums and dads happy in that footy is no longer rough and violent.

How can Fyfe be given two weeks or young Viney go straight to a tribunal yet if the bloke gets up like Garry Hocking after Dipper gave him a beauty and continues to play Officer Bar Brady claims nothing to see here folks. Malakies boys.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 05, 2014, 08:58:28 PM
stuff me, he wasn't even looking at him when he struck him.Tuckers comparison to the gibson incident is apt.
these filthy rooster gobblers are a disgrace, as is is the emphasis on result rather than intent.
stuff me, looking at the link tony gave,even viney is being screwed for being hard at the ball.

girly softies can GFTS

If Conca stayed down for a while had his jaw busted or Richmond submitted a non favourable medical report to the MRP that same incident would have a totally different adjudication.

This is not a match review panel this is merely a panel that is suspending players based on keeping mums and dads happy in that footy is no longer rough and violent.

How can Fyfe be given two weeks or young Viney go straight to a tribunal yet if the bloke gets up like Garry Hocking after Dipper gave him a beauty and continues to play Officer Bar Brady claims nothing to see here folks. Malakies boys.
On that basis, how did Lids get time?  Stokes hardly flinched.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 05, 2014, 09:00:44 PM
stuff me, he wasn't even looking at him when he struck him.Tuckers comparison to the gibson incident is apt.
these filthy rooster gobblers are a disgrace, as is is the emphasis on result rather than intent.
stuff me, looking at the link tony gave,even viney is being screwed for being hard at the ball.

girly softies can GFTS

If Conca stayed down for a while had his jaw busted or Richmond submitted a non favourable medical report to the MRP that same incident would have a totally different adjudication.

This is not a match review panel this is merely a panel that is suspending players based on keeping mums and dads happy in that footy is no longer rough and violent.

How can Fyfe be given two weeks or young Viney go straight to a tribunal yet if the bloke gets up like Garry Hocking after Dipper gave him a beauty and continues to play Officer Bar Brady claims nothing to see here folks. Malakies boys.
On that basis, how did Lids get time?  Stokes hardly flinched.

The inconsistencies of a poor judicial system that has huge holes in it's interpretation.
Can't put it any other way y&b. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 05, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/matchreviewpanel/Lidsreport6.jpg)(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/matchreviewpanel/Lidsreportcomparedtowinderlich.jpg)

Lids this week is "intentional" yet Winderlich's last week was "reckless" :huh3.

Welcome to MRP world  :P.

Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 05, 2014, 09:03:45 PM
Winderlichs looking ay him.
Lids is a parting cheap shot.
Given what Maxwell has got away with I thought hitting Maxwell would have been a greater evil. ::)
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Penelope on May 05, 2014, 09:04:54 PM
stuff me, he wasn't even looking at him when he struck him.Tuckers comparison to the gibson incident is apt.
these filthy rooster gobblers are a disgrace, as is is the emphasis on result rather than intent.
stuff me, looking at the link tony gave,even viney is being screwed for being hard at the ball.

girly softies can GFTS

If Conca stayed down for a while had his jaw busted or Richmond submitted a non favourable medical report to the MRP that same incident would have a totally different adjudication.

This is not a match review panel this is merely a panel that is suspending players based on keeping mums and dads happy in that footy is no longer rough and violent.

How can Fyfe be given two weeks or young Viney go straight to a tribunal yet if the bloke gets up like Garry Hocking after Dipper gave him a beauty and continues to play Officer Bar Brady claims nothing to see here folks. Malakies boys.
it really is sad isnt it?

i remember when someone could be charged with attempted striking.

Now, if you prepare for contact and you opponent doesn't, and they get hurt, you get crucified.

but if your intent is to hurt the opponent and by nothing more than good luck you don't hurt them too bad, then you get off.

it's just mental, and most people can see it, except those half wits setting the agenda


Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Penelope on May 05, 2014, 09:09:27 PM
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/matchreviewpanel/Lidsreport6.jpg)(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/matchreviewpanel/Lidsreportcomparedtowinderlich.jpg)

Lids this week is "intentional" yet Winderlich's last week was "reckless" :huh3.

Welcome to MRP world  :P.
Not sure what you are on about OE.

looking directly at the bloke while you hit him high is clearly reckless, while not looking at him  is clearly intentional.

would love some bozo in the media to to put this to those that make the decisions, but none of them have the balls, or the brains, to do so
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 05, 2014, 09:11:30 PM
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/49422422.jpg)
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 05, 2014, 09:42:20 PM
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/matchreviewpanel/Lidsreport6.jpg)(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/matchreviewpanel/Lidsreportcomparedtowinderlich.jpg)

Lids this week is "intentional" yet Winderlich's last week was "reckless" :huh3.

Welcome to MRP world  :P.
Not sure what you are on about OE.

looking directly at the bloke while you hit him high is clearly reckless, while not looking at him  is clearly intentional.

would love some bozo in the media to to put this to those that make the decisions, but none of them have the balls, or the brains, to do so
Lids was initially looking at Stokes. He was pushed towards Stokes by another Geelong player.

In any case, both pics are an elbow to the head and Winderlich had more time to think what he was doing. They are either both "intentional" or both "reckless". 
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Penelope on May 05, 2014, 09:44:54 PM
hmm, should re-read i think  ;)
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 05, 2014, 10:03:42 PM
hmm, should re-read i think  ;)
Sorry al, I missed the sarcasm  ;D :thumbsup.

Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: tony_montana on May 05, 2014, 10:05:01 PM
this site needs a sarcasm emoticon
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 06, 2014, 11:16:17 AM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-05-06/deledio-to-challenge-at-tribunal
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 06, 2014, 11:47:57 AM
Reckon they'll give him 2 now
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: 1965 on May 06, 2014, 12:12:06 PM
Reckon they'll give him 2 now

Don't think they can.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 06, 2014, 12:15:18 PM
Reckon they'll give him 2 now

Don't think they can.

 :thumbsup

I think they can
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: 1965 on May 06, 2014, 12:30:26 PM
Brett Deledio, Richmond, has been charged with a Level Three Striking Offence (225 demerit points, two-match sanction) for striking Matthew Stokes, Geelong Cats, during the second quarter of the Round Seven match between Richmond and the Geelong Cats, played at the MCG on Sunday May 4, 2014.
 
In summary, due to a six-year good record, his two-match sanction can be reduced to a one-game penalty with an early plea.
 
Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Geelong Cats Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Three Offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has an existing six-year good record, reducing the penalty by 25 per cent 168.75 points and a one-match sanction. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 126.56 demerit points and a one-match sanction.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-05/mrp-full-statement-round-seven

Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: tigs2011 on May 06, 2014, 12:32:40 PM
Reckon they'll give him 2 now

Don't think they can.

 :thumbsup
they can if they decide the impact is worse than it was judged. Doubt it though.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: dwaino on May 06, 2014, 12:41:02 PM
Reckon they'll give him 2 now

Don't think they can.

 :thumbsup
they can if they decide the impact is worse than it was judged. Doubt it though.

Inb4 upgraded to intentional high attempted murder.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Chuck17 on May 06, 2014, 12:53:53 PM
Reckon they'll give him 2 now

Don't think they can.

 :thumbsup
they can if they decide the impact is worse than it was judged. Doubt it though.

Inb4 upgraded to intentional high attempted murder.

 :lol
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 06, 2014, 01:35:47 PM
Reckon they'll give him 2 now

Don't think they can.

 :thumbsup

I think they can
No they can't.  This is pretty straight forward.  He pleads guilty to being reckless with his arm as it was NOT intentional.  With both a guilty plea and the good record he will only get a reprimand.  Need a good lawyer to convince the panel that they would have to be mind readers to prove it was intentional if Brett says it wasn't. :pray
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 06, 2014, 01:59:00 PM
Reckon they'll give him 2 now

Don't think they can.

 :thumbsup

I think they can
No they can't.  This is pretty straight forward.  He pleads guilty to being reckless with his arm as it was NOT intentional.  With both a guilty plea and the good record he will only get a reprimand.  Need a good lawyer to convince the panel that they would have to be mind readers to prove it was intentional if Brett says it wasn't. :pray

Johnny Cochran ?
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: tiga on May 06, 2014, 02:10:32 PM
Reckon they'll give him 2 now

Don't think they can.

 :thumbsup

I think they can
No they can't.  This is pretty straight forward.  He pleads guilty to being reckless with his arm as it was NOT intentional.  With both a guilty plea and the good record he will only get a reprimand.  Need a good lawyer to convince the panel that they would have to be mind readers to prove it was intentional if Brett says it wasn't. :pray

Johnny Cochran ?

Hope he uses the Chewbacca Defence. "It does not make sense!"  ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2014, 04:52:38 PM
If unsuccessful, Deledio is looking at a two-match sanction, and the first suspension in his 198-game career.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-06/live-viney-fronts-tribunal

 :huh AFL website doesn't understand the points system.



Viney is up first at the tribunal so Lids' hearing could be held back quite late.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: tiga on May 06, 2014, 05:01:11 PM
Let em both off! The game is becoming more like friggin netball every day! Tape your nails boys, cant have anyone being scratched.  :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: tony_montana on May 06, 2014, 05:02:36 PM
heard on sen this morning that Lids wont be able to get the charge downgraded from intentional to reckless bc it was off the ball?

I don't know what else Viney was meant to do, anybody can see he wasn't trying to nail him, it was just an unfortunate instance. Very harsh if he gets rubbed out
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 06, 2014, 05:05:58 PM
Both off but wouldnt be suprised if lids cops 2 and Viney off.

We should have taken the week and be done with it.

big risk
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: (•))(©™ on May 06, 2014, 05:08:17 PM
Let em both off! The game is becoming more like friggin netball every day! Tape your nails boys, cant have anyone being scratched.  :banghead :banghead

What he said^^
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: mightytiges on May 06, 2014, 05:24:50 PM
heard on sen this morning that Lids wont be able to get the charge downgraded from intentional to reckless bc it was off the ball?
If that's the case then we should go all out claiming the contact was insufficient to be a reportable offence.

If that fails then we should show up the MRP's inconsistency using the Winderlich case from just last week as Lids' defence. Winderlich's was off the ball yet that one was classed as reckless. This week the same act is classed as intentional. Demand a public explanation for why the difference in the space of just a week?

 

I don't know what else Viney was meant to do, anybody can see he wasn't trying to nail him, it was just an unfortunate instance. Very harsh if he gets rubbed out
Don't agree with it but he's gone under the rules. Viney will get blamed for bumping which caused a head clash. The fact Lynch also ended up with a broken jaw will make it worse for him.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 06, 2014, 05:33:11 PM
heard on sen this morning that Lids wont be able to get the charge downgraded from intentional to reckless bc it was off the ball?

I don't know what else Viney was meant to do, anybody can see he wasn't trying to nail him, it was just an unfortunate instance. Very harsh if he gets rubbed out
I've heard that too.  Not sure how Winderlich got reckless as that was off the ball too... :huh
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 06, 2014, 06:19:15 PM
Lids 200th is coming up so if he gets suspended for a week, it will be against the bummers and not gws
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2014, 06:41:02 PM
The jury is still deliberating in the Viney case. 10 minutes and counting.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2014, 06:48:18 PM
Viney found guilty of rough conduct.

They are now deciding on the penalty. Looking at 3 weeks apparently.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2014, 07:10:29 PM
Viney got 2 weeks.

Lids is up next.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2014, 07:35:07 PM
Deledio case is underway.

Deledio's case highlighting he was pushed towards Stokes. A lot of slow motion vision being shown to the jury.

Gleeson now quizzing Deledio on issue of force.

Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: lamington on May 06, 2014, 07:37:45 PM
 :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2014, 07:38:26 PM
Gleeson proposing Deledio was angry his opponent was involved in a scoring chain, feels contact and lashes out with his arm. Deledio disagrees.

Deledio accepts he made high intact.

Issue is whether there was sufficient force. Factors to be taken into account there are Stokes' head going backwards. Medical report showed no injury.


Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2014, 07:45:46 PM
We're going back and forward between Gleeson and the chairman, trying to establish intent.

Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 06, 2014, 07:47:10 PM
Gleeson is a wanker
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: dwaino on May 06, 2014, 07:47:22 PM
Tough call on Viney. What else was he meant to do? Regardless of the fact that it was actually Georgiou that made the actual blow with Lynch's head.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2014, 07:53:06 PM
Coaching and performance manager Tim Livingstone there for club support, Deledio's cousel is Michael Tovey QC

Deledio's cousel now submitting he is a fair ball player and never engages in retaliation.




Tough call on Viney. What else was he meant to do? Regardless of the fact that it was actually Georgiou that made the actual blow with Lynch's head.
They said the break was on the left side of Lynch's jaw which is the side Viney's shoulder collided with.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2014, 07:58:29 PM
Tovey QC: He is shoved forcefully towards Stokes and shoves Stokes out of the way when he is off balance.

 
If it's found that there was sufficient impact to constitute a reportable offence, then the jury will consider if it was in fact intentional.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2014, 08:00:16 PM
Reckless incidents used in the pre-season tribunal video were "much more severe" than Deledio's incident, Deledio's counsel proposes.



They should bring up Winderlich's case only a week ago.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2014, 08:03:06 PM
Jury will first decide if Deledio struck Stokes with more than negligible impact. If yes, they will then decide if it was actually intentional.

Jury now deliberating.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 06, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
Gleeson proposing Deledio was angry his opponent was involved in a scoring chain, feels contact and lashes out with his arm. Deledio disagrees.

Deledio accepts he made high intact.

Issue is whether there was sufficient force. Factors to be taken into account there are Stokes' head going backwards. Medical report showed no injury.

Judge judy
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2014, 08:07:16 PM
Deledio case is basically that intended to shove Stokes but he was pushed and off balance so hit went high...

 
If this is deemed reckless he'll escape with a reprimand.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Simonator on May 06, 2014, 08:08:09 PM
I reckon he'll get away with it, praying atleast.
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 06, 2014, 08:09:37 PM
Do you mr deledio deny you we're upset your so called player was I involved in a in a SCORING CHAIN

Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 06, 2014, 08:12:31 PM
Do you mr deledio deny you we're upset your so called player was I involved in a in a SCORING CHAIN

Can't believe they ran with this
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 06, 2014, 08:15:57 PM
Reckless!
He is free to play!!!
Title: Deledio free to play [updated]
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2014, 08:16:43 PM
Guilty of recklessly striking.

Low impact.




Reckless, low and high for a strike draws 125 points. Good behaviour takes it down to 93.75 points



So that's just a reprimand and Lids is free to play against Melbourne.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 06, 2014, 08:17:04 PM
Do you mr deledio deny you we're upset your so called player was I involved in a in a SCORING CHAIN

Can't believe they ran with this

They gave viney two weeks cause he didn't pivot onto his left foot and avoid the contest instead of going for the ball

The game is in a sick state
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Golfprotiger on May 06, 2014, 08:18:10 PM
Gold Jerry Gold!!! :bow :clapping
Title: Re: Deledio free to play [updated]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 06, 2014, 08:21:03 PM
Well at least the tribunal got something right this evening

Game has forever changed with the Viney decision. That one is just so wrong
Title: Re: Deledio free to play [updated]
Post by: lamington on May 06, 2014, 08:21:57 PM
JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Deledio free to play [updated]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 06, 2014, 08:23:52 PM
Well done Emmet Dunnne.
The Melbourne game is a must win and so got rid of Viney and reinstated Lids in one evening! :clapping :clapping :clapping :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: Deledio free to play [updated]
Post by: Go Richo 12 on May 06, 2014, 08:24:20 PM
That's a relief :thumbsup
Thank you for the updates OE.
The Viney case proves that you don't have to be dead to be stiff. Poor decision.
Title: Re: Deledio free to play [updated]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 06, 2014, 08:26:47 PM
Well done Emmet Dunnne.
The Melbourne game is a must win and so got rid of Viney and reinstated Lids in one evening! :clapping :clapping :clapping :bow :bow :bow

Did Emmett Dunne sit on the Viney Case?

If he did he should hang his head in shame, that was a terrible, pathetic decision

As for the cowardice shown by Joel Bowden and his cohorts at the MRP  :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Deledio free to play / tribunal appeal successful [updated]
Post by: bojangles17 on May 06, 2014, 08:27:28 PM
The rfc played them like a piano, nice work tigers............again  :clapping
Title: Re: Deledio free to play [updated]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 06, 2014, 08:28:00 PM
Well done Emmet Dunnne.
The Melbourne game is a must win and so got rid of Viney and reinstated Lids in one evening! :clapping :clapping :clapping :bow :bow :bow

Did Emmett Dunne sit on the Viney Case?

If he did he should hang his head in shame, that was a terrible, pathetic decision

As for the cowardice shown by Joel Bowden and his cohorts at the MRP  :banghead :banghead

 No different from the way he played
Title: Re: Deledio free to play / tribunal appeal successful [updated]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 06, 2014, 08:28:52 PM
Well at least we not have to worry about Viney ,
Title: Re: Deledio free to play [updated]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 06, 2014, 08:29:57 PM
Well done Emmet Dunnne.
The Melbourne game is a must win and so got rid of Viney and reinstated Lids in one evening! :clapping :clapping :clapping :bow :bow :bow

No excuses now for not winning
Title: Re: Deledio free to play [updated]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 06, 2014, 08:31:09 PM
Well done Emmet Dunnne.
The Melbourne game is a must win and so got rid of Viney and reinstated Lids in one evening! :clapping :clapping :clapping :bow :bow :bow

Did Emmett Dunne sit on the Viney Case?

If he did he should hang his head in shame, that was a terrible, pathetic decision

As for the cowardice shown by Joel Bowden and his cohorts at the MRP  :banghead :banghead

I don't agree with the rule but the rule is there.  If you choose to bump and the player gets injured your in trouble.  I don't think the panel had a choice.  Why didn't Viney tackle? He chose to bump.

It's the RULE THAT'S THE PROBLEM WP!!!
Title: Re: Deledio free to play / tribunal appeal successful [updated]
Post by: Coach on May 06, 2014, 08:32:33 PM
Well done Emmet Dunnne.
The Melbourne game is a must win and so got rid of Viney and reinstated Lids in one evening! :clapping :clapping :clapping :bow :bow :bow

Did Emmett Dunne sit on the Viney Case?

If he did he should hang his head in shame, that was a terrible, pathetic decision

As for the cowardice shown by Joel Bowden and his cohorts at the MRP  :banghead :banghead

 No different from the way he played

I'll let you get away with that. Only once. Only once will I let you get away with a comment like that.

First and only warning, Chuck.
Title: Re: Deledio free to play / tribunal appeal successful [updated]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 06, 2014, 08:39:20 PM
Well done Emmet Dunnne.
The Melbourne game is a must win and so got rid of Viney and reinstated Lids in one evening! :clapping :clapping :clapping :bow :bow :bow

Did Emmett Dunne sit on the Viney Case?

If he did he should hang his head in shame, that was a terrible, pathetic decision

As for the cowardice shown by Joel Bowden and his cohorts at the MRP  :banghead :banghead

 No different from the way he played

I'll let you get away with that. Only once. Only once will I let you get away with a comment like that.

First and only warning, Chuck.

Yeh OK but the thing that stands out most about Joel on a football field for me is him walking away from that all in
Title: Re: Deledio free to play / tribunal appeal successful [updated]
Post by: Coach on May 06, 2014, 08:43:00 PM
Ordinary from him but it shouldn't undo the 250+ games of good service he gave us. And he did put his body on the line on plenty of occasions.
Title: Re: Deledio free to play / tribunal appeal successful [updated]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 06, 2014, 08:43:48 PM
Ordinary from him but it shouldn't undo the 250+ games of good service he gave us. And he did put his body on the line on plenty of occasions.

True
Title: Re: Deledio free to play / tribunal appeal successful [updated]
Post by: TigerLand on May 06, 2014, 08:58:55 PM
Opinion aside on the ruling on bumping etc.

Did Viney, elect to bump? Yes
Did Viney make contact to the head? Yes
Was the opponent injured? Yes - broken jaw.

I understand the backlash over social media and radio, but if you elect to bump, hit the player in the head you are 99% chance of being suspended and if they are injured it seems you have no chance of getting off.

I don't agree with the verdict but its the way the game is now. I think the clash of heads one is far worse than Viney. He elected to bump and got him high and broke his jaw. Thats not as harsh as someone electing to bump, executing the bump correctly in the shoulder but because of the force and the pace of the game you clash heads, injuring yourself and your opponent and you get weeks.

#suchislife
Title: Re: Deledio free to play [updated]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 06, 2014, 09:05:11 PM
Well done Emmet Dunnne.
The Melbourne game is a must win and so got rid of Viney and reinstated Lids in one evening! :clapping :clapping :clapping :bow :bow :bow

Did Emmett Dunne sit on the Viney Case?

If he did he should hang his head in shame, that was a terrible, pathetic decision

As for the cowardice shown by Joel Bowden and his cohorts at the MRP  :banghead :banghead

I don't agree with the rule but the rule is there.  If you choose to bump and the player gets injured your in trouble.  I don't think the panel had a choice.  Why didn't Viney tackle? He chose to bump.

It's the RULE THAT'S THE PROBLEM WP!!!

Have you seen the reply in real time

Would have been hard situation to lay successful tackle

As other has said - viney was within rights to expect the ball was going to bounce to him

Then only other real option was to not go ball
Title: Re: Deledio free to play [updated]
Post by: (•))(©™ on May 06, 2014, 09:09:26 PM
Well at least the tribunal got something right this evening

Game has forever changed with the Viney decision. That one is just so wrong

How could it get any worse/>?
Title: Re: Deledio free to play / tribunal appeal successful [updated]
Post by: cub on May 06, 2014, 09:37:13 PM
Good
Title: Re: Deledio free to play [updated]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 06, 2014, 10:31:25 PM
Well done Emmet Dunnne.
The Melbourne game is a must win and so got rid of Viney and reinstated Lids in one evening! :clapping :clapping :clapping :bow :bow :bow

Did Emmett Dunne sit on the Viney Case?

If he did he should hang his head in shame, that was a terrible, pathetic decision

As for the cowardice shown by Joel Bowden and his cohorts at the MRP  :banghead :banghead

I don't agree with the rule but the rule is there.  If you choose to bump and the player gets injured your in trouble.  I don't think the panel had a choice.  Why didn't Viney tackle? He chose to bump.

It's the RULE THAT'S THE PROBLEM WP!!!

Agree the rule is in part the problem but...

In this case Viney did not line Jenkins up. He actually turned to ensure he didn't hit with the shoulder

The panel had a choice and they have chosen to ignore the vision in real time it would seem and concentrate on the frame by frame slow-mo.

And what difference does it make of he tackles? If the blokes jaw still gets broken what happens then? Oh that's right it's an accident? What happens if Viney gets injured as well? Do both players get suspended

I posted a few weeks back about the Douglas bump and said based on the rule as it stands Douglas was always in trouble because it was behind play and away from the contest

The Viney case is the opposite, in play, in a contest

A terrible decision that has taken away another piece of the fabric of the game IMv, sad day indeed
Title: Re: Deledio free to play / tribunal appeal successful [updated]
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 06, 2014, 10:37:54 PM
agree CUB,

its about 4 points.

the game is stuffed anyway regardless of this rule.



Title: Re: Deledio free to play / tribunal appeal successful [updated]
Post by: TigerMonk on May 07, 2014, 07:49:19 AM
l'm in  :o a Richmond player got away with being suspended  ;D Great News  :clapping

The Jack Viney decision is one of the worst in the history of the game. Its time everyone who enjoys our great game voices their opinion to the AFL or Local comps on what they want to see instead of letting the few who want our game to be more like soccer & have our players thrashing around on the ground wanting cheap free kicks cause mummy prefers that to the bump, biffs & brawls.  ;D
Title: Re: Deledio free to play / tribunal appeal successful [updated]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 07, 2014, 09:12:08 AM

The Jack Viney decision is one of the worst in the history of the game.

x 2
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Yeahright on May 07, 2014, 02:23:33 PM
Clearly if it did occur then it was with such force that Stokes barely flinched and was able to get involved in the melee and play out the rest of the game  ::).

I know this is an older post and the decision by MRP has changed but this is what you want from the MRP. They should be basing their decisions on the intent on what happened, not the result. Basing it purely on Stokes ability to play on is silly, it should be based on Deledios attempt to elbow Stokes (which the MRP has deemed wasn't intentional)
Title: Re: Deledio cops a week from the MRP
Post by: Yeahright on May 07, 2014, 02:32:05 PM
The MRP really have gone out of their way to get that footage.

I reckon Geelong made a complaint for sure. Effing country preppies

I'm sure they check what starts all melees
Title: Re: Deledio free to play / tribunal appeal successful [updated]
Post by: one-eyed on May 08, 2014, 03:16:53 AM
Lids talking about the report ....


“As I was going through, I could hear Matty Stokes in my ear, yelling at me.

“I saw him coming at me, so I’ve put my arm up to fend him off, as you do.  You just put the forearm up because you’re not allowed to do anything else.

“I turned away and it slipped up off his shoulder, I think, and hit him in the chin.

“It looks like I’ve gone at him with a blatant elbow, which is something I’ve never done for 10 years (of AFL football), and never done it previous to that, even playing juniors.

“I’ve never been reported once in my entire football career, from the age of eight.

“I pride myself on not being a dirty player, and (I’m) a ball player . . .”

Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-05-07/deledio-opens-up-on-report-drama