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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: georgies31 on May 31, 2014, 09:05:08 PM
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What a your thoughts.Jack coming out last week bagging the game plan etc،seems to me players look lost no direction or gameplan.
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What a your thoughts.Jack coming out last week bagging the game plan etc،seems to me players look lost no direction or gameplan.
He just can't coach.
He has the group because he is a good bloke but he is a terrible match day coach.
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Has he ever had them?
Made finals on the back of an easy draw and the luck of no injuries to key players.
Middle of the road coach and game plan when everything goes right.
Who was the student kent who gave him a contract extention...
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I called this exact same post about 4 weeks ago and I was berated, of course he has, he has also lost the plot and he has lost any resemblance to a game plan that he may of had.
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Lost them after round 1 is the mail ;)
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Has he ever had them?
Made finals on the back of an easy draw and the luck of no injuries to key players.
Middle of the road coach and game plan when everything goes right.
Who was the student kent who gave him a contract extention...
We have an easier draw this year!! What da stuff has he done to the gameplan?
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Don't reckon its Dimma, it's the bunch of hacks under him, who are they never heard of them apart from Chocco and Lade!
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Has he ever had them?
Made finals on the back of an easy draw and the luck of no injuries to key players.
Middle of the road coach and game plan when everything goes right.
Who was the student kent who gave him a contract extention...
We have an easier draw this year!! What da stuff has he done to the gameplan?
If ain't broke don't fix it!
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Lost them after round 1 is the mail ;)
I really don't care what the players want. They should be playing for the people that put money in their pockets - the fans!
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Lost them after round 1 is the mail ;)
Why would that be?
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We have a decent group of players guys like conca،،cotch،deledio،jack،ellis،vaustin rance etc.I just cant help think if we had a roos or lyron we would be alot better team just look at the dees improvement.
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Lost them after round 1 is the mail ;)
yeah but your mail is poo. i'll take Mrakovs mail adotw
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Believe what you want
Playing group was given a massive spray after round 1.
Wouldn't think Jacks bagging of the game plan was far off the mark
Players aren't happy with the way they are told to play
Us supporters can see certain players are untouchable and gifted games
You Nuffers work it out
Only tell you what I was told
Please yourself
Fair to say things aren't right at punt rd
FACT
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Believe what you want
Playing group was given a massive spray after round 1.
Wouldn't think Jacks bagging of the game plan was far off the mark
Players aren't happy with the way they are told to play
Us supporters can see certain players are untouchable and gifted games
You Nuffers work it out
Only tell you what I was told
Please yourself
Fair to say things aren't right at punt rd
FACT
Not having a crack at you
Do some of the players get as peeed as some of us supporters at the way some players are continually gifted games?
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Believe what you want
Playing group was given a massive spray after round 1.
Wouldn't think Jacks bagging of the game plan was far off the mark
Players aren't happy with the way they are told to play
Us supporters can see certain players are untouchable and gifted games
You Nuffers work it out
Only tell you what I was told
Please yourself
Fair to say things aren't right at punt rd
FACT
I reckon jacks comments were what most of the team were thinking, not just jacks thoughts.
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Believe what you want
Playing group was given a massive spray after round 1.
Wouldn't think Jacks bagging of the game plan was far off the mark
Players aren't happy with the way they are told to play
Us supporters can see certain players are untouchable and gifted games
You Nuffers work it out
Only tell you what I was told
Please yourself
Fair to say things aren't right at punt rd
FACT
The players aren't putting in. No belief in the system. Clear as day.
No intensity no care no hurt.
It's a problem that rests with Hardwick. Not up to it
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What sort of coach bags his own player in the media for a joke.
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what sort of coach rates a player like TV, shedwards and Jackson as a B&F winner
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Believe what you want
Playing group was given a massive spray after round 1.
Wouldn't think Jacks bagging of the game plan was far off the mark
Players aren't happy with the way they are told to play
Us supporters can see certain players are untouchable and gifted games
You Nuffers work it out
Only tell you what I was told
Please yourself
Fair to say things aren't right at punt rd
FACT
The players aren't putting in. No belief in the system. Clear as day.
No intensity no care no hurt.
It's a problem that rests with Hardwick. Not up to it
X2
Players don't give a poo, no anger, passion, they don't care.
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No one can coach this group of players. Most of them are simply hopeless.
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Seriously it was an indictment on the club that Jackson won a B &F last year.....If one of our most ordinary players can win a B & F then it's a disgrace to our development coaches.....
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Seriously it was an indictment on the club that Jackson won a B &F last year.....If one of our most ordinary players can win a B & F then it's a disgrace to our development coaches.....
agree but our b&f has been a joke for years. every reject that comes to the club ends up in the top 10 so the club can justify the recruitment lol. Its a disgrace what they have done to the club b&f. And they think the supporters havent worked it out lol.
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Seriously it was an indictment on the club that Jackson won a B &F last year.....If one of our most ordinary players can win a B & F then it's a disgrace to our development coaches.....
He did play well. He was also the midfielder not tagged, Cotch, Lids etc got the tags.
We are collectively Werribee bound, someone flushed the team.
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I think something has happened and he has lost (some of) the players. Not all of them, who else saw Jack nearly tear up in the player huddle after the game. Jack still wants to be out there.
I also think we are suffering a massive structural deficit at half forward. TV failing has been a serious problem with the way footy is played these days. Melbourne have radically improved when they have had a half forward and a competitive attitude, we badly need one to kick to ATM. Griffs just doesn't seem to cut the mustard. We ought to even start thinking out of the box for half forward, maybe park Maric there.
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Players copped an almighty spray apparently.
Confidence at an all time high. How about give our fitness coach a spray for a soft pre season. Spray the recruiter who recruited a bunch of VISY recycled rubbish. Give the coaching staff a spray for this pathetic slow game plan that doesn't work against high pressure.
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Lost them after round 1 is the mail ;)
no one gives a stuff about your "mail".... put fwd an opinion or f.o.
imo dimmo and the playing group are not reading from the same book.
dimmo, the players' mate... :chuck
dimmo, clarkson's protege... :chuck
dimmo, premiership coach... :chuck :nope :chuck
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Sam Lane on Ch 7 in our rooms said the players have been locked in the meeting room for 7 mins and someone (she's presuming it's the head coach or one of the coaches) just gave a vocal barrage at the top of their voice at the players.
Cotch out now of the meeting saying they (the players) are embarrassed.
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Dimma is no good :shh
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Coaches can make a difference but the wheels will fall off if the culture isn't fixed first.
He has allowed this bunch of Pansy's to downhill ski. He patted them on the back when they played lollipop rubbish and he gave them handjobs for playing finals. He developed a soft as butter game plan that can't sustain finals footy. He developed a Prima Donna paradise that allowed the big heads to put up posters of themselves in the showers. He gives them pay rises and rewards mediocrity. He cleans there feet and wipes there arses. He never stopped them from bumming each other in the gym etc etc etc.
....and now he scratches his head. stuff
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I actually feel sorry for him. He is a very decent and honorable man whose coaching aspirations have been destroyed by the Richmond FC. He isnt the first victim nor will he be the last. Our club is like the twilight zone for coaches. Thats why no one decent will want to coach us only someone who is desperate enough for the job will do it.
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It's the attitude, it shi,tes me that every time there are cameras at training we look like we are mucking around, you just don't see that at other clubs.......
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I actually feel sorry for him. He is a very decent and honorable man whose coaching aspirations have been destroyed by the Richmond FC. He isnt the first victim nor will he be the last. Our club is like the twilight zone for coaches. Thats why no one decent will want to coach us only someone who is desperate enough for the job will do it.
You reap what you sow..... he doesn't have to play the same blokes over and over again gifting games when clearly they aren't deserved. It promotes a cheats culture. If he didn't rate the duds that were picked up he wouldn't play them, he does and he does
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YEP and eventually it will cost him his coaching career.
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Miles would not have made a difference tonight. We still would have lost but FFS get the games into the kids instead of persisting/Playing with the same failed blokes over and over again.
Tell you all what if Newman comes back as soon as he is fit then he should be sacked on that Thursday night after selection.
Says a lot about our club, playing culture and club culture.
The Skata Cycle. 32 Years and still counting. Plop Plop Plop.
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What playing group, its just totally sh1tful, the season is GONE, no game plan, jackson clearly injured, FFS they should have at least played Miles, WTF and i mean WTF
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They all deserve to go, they all have nfi, blair, FJ, dimma stuff them all off they have had a chance - 4 years worth..... - pay them out and bring in replacements. Yeah we'll pay out over a million dollars but we'll lose a hell of a lot more in membership revenue if we don't.
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They all deserve to go, they all have nfi, blair, FJ, dimma stuff them all off they have had a chance - 4 years worth..... - pay them out and bring in replacements. Yeah we'll pay out over a million dollars but we'll lose a hell of a lot more in membership revenue if we don't.
i would terminate the employment of the list manager, the recruiting team en masse and the fitness guys first. Hardwick should be put on notice until the end of the year that the team must improve or he will get the arse as well.
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blame the coach for everything is a crock of poo. yeah hardwick has got things wrong and may not be good enough to take us forward but the real problem does not lie with hardwick alone.
to get anywhere we first have to acknowledge where the list is at. and we have to acknowledge key off field areas have been poor. seems the club and far too many others have their heads in the sand when this is raised.
without a doubt its a middling list with too many players who have been around for too long who make the same mistakes over and over they are incapable of learning.
perhaps we will now finally do what needs to be done but ffs first they have to acknowledge what is wrong.
whats the point of sacking the coach if we dont address recruiting list management and development. they all come first. get anew coach or even a whole new coaching team and fail to fix these things and those coaches will fail just like hardwick.
i dunno about everyone but i for one have never at any stage felt we have built a good finals side list capable of firstly playing consistent finals and then maybe challenge.
its a middling list it has always been a middling list.
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The administration is incapable of doing what you ask. The crap they come out with to defend their dismal performance is simply astonishing. With the current administration Richmond will never improve. Its just a place where its jobs for the boys or jobs for your mates. Thats it in a nutshell.
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blame the coach for everything is a crock of poo. yeah hardwick has got things wrong and may not be good enough to take us forward but the real problem does not lie with hardwick alone.
to get anywhere we first have to acknowledge where the list is at. and we have to acknowledge key off field areas have been poor. seems the club and far too many others have their heads in the sand when this is raised.
without a doubt its a middling list with too many players who have been around for too long who make the same mistakes over and over they are incapable of learning.
perhaps we will now finally do what needs to be done but ffs first they have to acknowledge what is wrong.
whats the point of sacking the coach if we dont address recruiting list management and development. they all come first. get anew coach or even a whole new coaching team and fail to fix these things and those coaches will fail just like hardwick.
i dunno about everyone but i for one have never at any stage felt we have built a good finals side list capable of firstly playing consistent finals and then maybe challenge.
its a middling list it has always been a middling list.
Well said
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blame the coach for everything is a crock of poo. yeah hardwick has got things wrong and may not be good enough to take us forward but the real problem does not lie with hardwick alone.
to get anywhere we first have to acknowledge where the list is at. and we have to acknowledge key off field areas have been poor. seems the club and far too many others have their heads in the sand when this is raised.
without a doubt its a middling list with too many players who have been around for too long who make the same mistakes over and over they are incapable of learning.
perhaps we will now finally do what needs to be done but ffs first they have to acknowledge what is wrong.
whats the point of sacking the coach if we dont address recruiting list management and development. they all come first. get anew coach or even a whole new coaching team and fail to fix these things and those coaches will fail just like hardwick.
i dunno about everyone but i for one have never at any stage felt we have built a good finals side list capable of firstly playing consistent finals and then maybe challenge.
its a middling list it has always been a middling list.
I disagree its always been a middling list, when Hardwick first started it was a poor list, its become middling and clearly has a long way to go. 14 players going in Hardwicks first year said it all.
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needs to get rid of 14 players again at the end of this year again
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The administration is incapable of doing what you ask. The crap they come out with to defend their dismal performance is simply astonishing. With the current administration Richmond will never improve. Its just a place where its jobs for the boys or jobs for your mates. Thats it in a nutshell.
That's been the disease at RFC for too long.
The admin does not recognise this until its far too late and the partrial rebuild under the new coaching admin needs to take place.
What the admin need to do is very quickly sum up whether Dimma is the right man for the job and the get the "best" around him and give him every chance to succeed, ie footy ops manager, list manager, assistant coaches, recruiters etc etc etc spend the FTF money and take the punt or sack him and spend FTF money and get the best not the best available or the cheapest but the best.
A financial loss be turned around quickly. The problem with RFC for far too long, bottom line is what they have to lose rather than what they have to win.
That mentality breeds failure breeds ineptness and reaks of poor culture. Hence we have been crap for so long with only fleeting token success rather than consistent long lasting and sustained success. I've said it before and I'll say it again.
The Skata Cycle. 32 Years and still counting. Plop Plop Plop
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I actually feel sorry for him. He is a very decent and honorable man whose coaching aspirations have been destroyed by the Richmond FC. He isnt the first victim nor will he be the last. Our club is like the twilight zone for coaches. Thats why no one decent will want to coach us only someone who is desperate enough for the job will do it.
i would take $600k per year.......I don't feel sorry for him......I feel sorry for us and our children
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So its not just a football thing.
The wheels have fallen off the whole caboose.
A faceless president.
Recycled duds like Thomas, Hampson, Chaplin,Morris, Grigg. Midfielders like Conca and Ellis, who are as weak as pee mentally.
Griff gone backwards A game plan that relies on capitalising from run generated off half back ....and that's it !! stuff me dead but sorry, LMAO.
A coach who has been exposed for his inability to achieve both assembling and structuring a competitive unit at the competition level.
Another responsibility that falls on him is the psychological state of the players.
It's his environment. He created it and they're his standards.
The confidence and level of self belief was higher in a Nazi prison camp.
Cotchin and Deledeo have given up and gone backwards.
There's no soul at Punt rd..... And that's because dimmer has no soul.
A stuffn Mercenary coach in a field of many.
His problem is he never had what it took to make Richmond work.... Probably any team.
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He was dead after the elimination final, officially buried after he said the comment "you have no idea" in that press conference
He is spud x 2. In fact the similarities are uncanny. Both nice warm guys, sleep with their wife this that, coached in 1 final series against Carlton, topped up the list and soon both will be in sacked coaches club this time next year
Club is finished lads best thing we can all is buy a 6 pack, drink it at punt road, then when your done drop a big turd at the front door then leave
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He was dead after the elimination final, officially buried after he said the comment "you have no idea" in that press conference
He is spud x 2. In fact the similarities are uncanny. Both nice warm guys, sleep with their wife this that, coached in 1 final series against Carlton, topped up the list and soon both will be in sacked coaches club this time next year
Club is finished lads best thing we can all is buy a 6 pack, drink it at punt road, then when your done drop a big turd at the front door then leave
If you drink a 6 pack don't think you're dropping a turd Angus.
Maybe buy some local food from some of the Swan St take away establishments that are still open when revellers might be leaving the Corner Hotel and you may have a few turds and some diarrhoea to stink up the joint, as if the last 32 years haven't stunk anyway lol. :lol :rollin :lol
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Claw who is responsible for putting this list together and recruiting all these rejects from other clubs it's our football department full stop that's who I blame.Last 2 years they went of the trend building with kids in the draft and recruited to many has beens and got ahead of themselves on our list and making finals and resigning dimma to a 3 year contract.
Don't come tell me our coaches never got our preseason wrong.First of we a not fit enough and then this crap game plan going backwards,stop start etc.If anything fine tune the game plan we did well with it last season.We lost 2 assistants the club didn't replace either that was baffling decision.We have choco at the club so much experience great footy brains he should be dimmas right hand man in the box instead he's a development coach on the bench.We get Dan Richardson as our football manager a guy who was a player manager what does he bring to the club? Go for Neil Balme,Chris Bond etc.Football department has no idea.
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Miles would not have made a difference tonight. We still would have lost but FFS get the games into the kids instead of persisting/Playing with the same failed blokes over and over again.
Tell you all what if Newman comes back as soon as he is fit then he should be sacked on that Thursday night after selection.
Says a lot about our club, playing culture and club culture.
The Skata Cycle. 32 Years and still counting. Plop Plop Plop.
Better to play a proven dud than a guy who might be a dud. The Dimma Way. :banghead
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Miles would not have made a difference tonight. We still would have lost but FFS get the games into the kids instead of persisting/Playing with the same failed blokes over and over again.
Tell you all what if Newman comes back as soon as he is fit then he should be sacked on that Thursday night after selection.
Says a lot about our club, playing culture and club culture.
The Skata Cycle. 32 Years and still counting. Plop Plop Plop.
Better to play a proven dud than a guy who might be a dud. The Dimma Way. :banghead
oh look....
the reality is most of our best players are already in the side so we just need to get better.
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Plop Plop Plop
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Week by week seems to me this group of players are not playing for Dimmas.
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Wish he would lose a few of them......preferably somewhere in the Indian Ocean....
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Wish he would lose a few of them......preferably somewhere in the Indian Ocean....
:lol
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I also think the Port adelaide influence is way too much at out club..time to ditch it
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I also think the Port adelaide influence is way too much at out club..time to ditch it
Port Adelaide during a lean time. :help
Hawthorn get Burgoyne premiership player.
We get Farmer, Thompson, Chaplin, Thomas. Pull your hair out stuff.
We give them White, Port two games clear on top at the half way mark.
Whatever RFC say and do bet on the opposite. :thumbsup
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Give Choco Williams a go.
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Would agree
Give Choco a go
He thinks its a circus I would assume
Don't think Choco would be thrilled to be in charge of setting up the cones before the game
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Bargain Basement Blair Hartley. Has he got a lot to answer for. :help
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Give Choco Williams a go.
I am mystified as to why we would give an assistant a promotion when surely he is partly to blame for what is happening.
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Blair
Video boy from Essendon early 2000 has climbed the great ladder of employment in the AFL
Yet another job for mates
People got to realise they surround themselves with " yes"men
Clearly the picture at the RFC
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this business of appointing like minded minds ,or the coach wanting like minds around him has to now stop.
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The football department needs a revamp top to bottom.Most assistants see you later.We get demons assistant Williams who is he etc? and Im not happy with football manager Dan Richardson who is he? We needed a Balme or a Chris Bond etc .Hartley see you later to.I stll cant work out we lost Leppa and Campbell lat year and the ckub said noneed to replace them.
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Week by week I'm convinced on this.
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It's a question that only the players can answer and their performances this year at the very least suggest they've either stopped listening to Hardwick's instruction or won't play for him consistently. Most likely it's a combination of both.
However the hard truth maybe that the cattle simply are not up to it.
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He certainly KILLED the playing group.
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Could be worse, we could be Essendon
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Of course he has, adds to the intrigue doesn't it.
And we all love intrigue and RFC it goes hand in hand. :lol
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I think the playing group has lost themselves
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Could be worse, we could be Essendon
we ARE worse
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I think the playing group has lost themselves
Shat themselves...
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He certainly KILLED the playing group.
Is it the list or the coach, where would we be with the best coach in the AFL?
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He certainly KILLED the playing group.
Is it the list or the coach, where would we be with the best coach in the AFL?
Getting maximum potential out of average players.
Playing them to their strengths, not the coaches ideals.
Recruiting properly.
Developing properly.
a triple way game plan?
Someone with an ability to deal with real time football.
etc etc etc etc etc
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Dimma has lost his marbles.
The playing group are below par.
Add it together. Disaster. :help