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Mark Robinson says every person at Richmond must take blame for Tigers’ on-field woes
MARK ROBINSON
HERALD SUN JUNE 02, 2014
9:00PM
THE question is: Who’s to blame at Richmond? The coach or the players?
It’s always the question because the Tigers, in and outside of the club, are masters at laying blame.
The fans blame the coach. The club blames the players. Last week the players blamed the coach for not being hard enough on them.
Meanwhile, most of the rest of the football world looks at Richmond and shake their heads.
The club wants respect, but have done little to command it.
Off the field, the club has rebuilt Punt Rd, wiped out a $5 million debt and has record membership and sponsorship. Mighty congratulations.
But the core business of any football club is winning and the Tigers have been found wanting yet again.
The players should be ashamed of their effort on Saturday night.
Big game. Big occasion. Big nothing from the yellow and black.
The blame is with everyone and everything - the coach, the players and the current culture.
It’s typical of Richmond fans to blame the coach. They have inundated radio talk back with calls for Hardwick to be sacked. It’s is ridiculous. Richmond’s directors used to react when the smell of blood was in the air. But not anymore.
Still, Hardwick has tough decisions to make.
He has coached for four years and 10 games. He won six games in first season in 2010, and followed with eight, 10, 15 but only three wins this season.
He is a baby in terms of coaching. He is infinitely better than when he started and he will be infinitely better in another four years’ time.
But if fans believed Hardwick was going to improve, and improve this team and then win the premiership - in a span of five years - they are deluded.
What’s happened is Hardwick and his players have hit a hurdle and it’s up to them to climb over it.
Clearly, there is a culture issue in terms of setting standards and playing to them and not accepting anything less.
Seriously, what does Richmond stand for? Don’t say ‘’ruthless Tigers’’ because you’re living in the ‘70s.
The Tigers aren’t ruthless. They’re pedestrian.
Port Adelaide coach Ken Hinkley was asked last week on AFL360 what’s his No. 1 unconditional as coach. He said: “Win your own ball.”
If the Tigers were ruthless, they would not play Shaun Grigg and Bachar Houli. Both are skilled, but both are not unconditional.
Reece Conca is young but seems to pick and choose his efforts. Troy Chaplin has fallen away.
Ben Griffiths plays on his terms. He is known as a brilliant kick, he should be known as a pack splitter as well.
Why can’t Cotchin be as demanding on-field as Jarryd McVeigh? Why can’t Deledio impose his will? And Rance more often?
They made the call on Ty Vickery, but maybe more are needed.
How, in 120 minutes of football in an era demanding defensive pressure, can 13 Tigers players have two or less tackles like they did against the Bombers.
Richmond’s performance on Saturday night, and for much of the season, reflects the culture of the club.
One week - against GWS - they’ll come out snarling because their backs are against the wall. The next week - against Essendon - they drink their own bath water and think it’s simply going to happen again.
The great teams, such as Sydney, Fremantle, Hawthorn, Geelong aside from Friday night, now Port Adelaide, and a growing Collingwood, play every week as if their backs are against the wall.
That’s their culture. That’s their standard. It’s not the be all and end all in life for those players, but it’s damn close.
The Tigers are a reactionary team. They play North Melbourne on Sunday night and bet your last dollar the Tigers will run through brick walls. They should do it every week.
For that, Hardwick has to accept responsibility for the collective competitive spirit.
That comes under every coach’s leadership umbrella, which includes team personnel and the environment he creates within the club.
The players are at fault, too. Surely there’s an expectation they come with a certain level of self-motivation because, after all, they are professional sportsmen.
Hardwick’s test, similar to every coach, is to set standards on acceptable effort and commitment, and that’s effort and commitment to not only defend but to attack.
The players this season have let him down.
Perhaps, he has allowed them to let him down.
Perhaps Hardwick needs a new rule: Win your own ball. And if you can’t, or won’t, you don’t play.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mark-robinson-says-every-person-at-richmond-must-take-blame-for-tigers-onfield-woes/story-fni5f0at-1226940635984
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Funny, Robbo says Dimma needs a new rule - win your own ball or you don't play
That's part of the problem when he was appointed he said when it was your turn to go hard at the contest you'd do it or you don't play
Perhaps Dimma doesn't need an new rule maybe he just needs to enforce his own rules that he's allowed to become a negotiable rather than a non-negotiable
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Yeah but the water down at St.Kilda is too cold in Winter....
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Remember when the players blamed the crowd being too big. Won't be an issue much longer. :lol
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Gawd he's a rambler. One of the worst journos in the biz. (burp)
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Funny, Robbo says Dimma needs a new rule - win your own ball or you don't play
That's part of the problem when he was appointed he said when it was your turn to go hard at the contest you'd do it or you don't play
Perhaps Dimma doesn't need an new rule maybe he just needs to enforce his own rules that he's allowed to become a negotiable rather than a non-negotiable
:thumbsup
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Robbo= Sithman.
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Robbo= Sithman.
Darth Robbo
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How about robbo questions dimmas game plan this season sideways،backwards etc why the change from last years quick،fast and direct footy.Another one blind as a bat.I'm not letting the players off by no means،but our footy department got the preseason wrong from tradeweek to drafts to fitness and to gameplan.
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When it was announced Maric was out for the first 8 weeks because of surgical time mismanagement and an overall failure to communicate from the football department, I knew things were back to normal .....
Best club ever! :scream
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When it was announced Maric was out for the first 8 weeks because of surgical time mismanagement and an overall failure to communicate from the football department, I knew things were back to normal .....
Best club ever! :scream
Have a feeling that quote in your signature will come to define Hardwick's demise....just like Watters' "We're not rebuilding...oh wait, yes we are" , Neeld's first post-match press conference, Wallace's "Locked and Loaded" and Peter Schwab's "We'll win the premiership this year"
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The club is a rabble
They have no idea
They promote a kid of the rookie list and don't play him ?
Then they have Jack R kick 11 goals then the following week starts at the back of the centre square only to have the ball go inside F50 with his opponent marking it twice in first 2 mins
As I have said many times .dont take it for granted that coaches and there assistants know what they are doing as they actually don't
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Monkeyball is the fault of the coach
His finished
Dusty will hold off talks this time next year and we will rebuild again
He is ruining this club by rewarding mediocrity and a selfish culture
Good riddons
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It is the fault of the entire club-team selection, recruiting, culture and game plan etc. There needs to be an external review of the football department of this club at season end. It appears the media now have no qualms naming names the club shouldn't either.
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It is the fault of the entire club-team selection, recruiting, culture and game plan etc. There needs to be an external review of the football department of this club at season end. It appears the media now have no qualms naming names the club shouldn't either.
They dont do external reviews. Its a protected boys club at Richmond and everyone knows it. They slap each other on the back and drink their own bathwater down there in the Administration and oh yeah I forgot they ask themselves everyday how they can get better and improve their own performance. Its a farce.
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'But if fans believed Hardwick was going to improve, and improve this team and then win the premiership - in a span of five years - they are deluded.'
LMFAO ! Our fans are deluded ? Coming from an Essendon supporter ! Hello pot , meet kettle !
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Fans need to take some blame as well, c'mon guys don't be shy you know what you have done
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Fans need to take some blame as well, c'mon guys don't be shy you know what you have done
Agree - too many undemanding, unquestioning brightsider shills & apologists.
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Mark Robinson says every person at Richmond must take blame for Tigers’ on-field woes
MARK ROBINSON
HERALD SUN JUNE 02, 2014
9:00PM
Why can’t Cotchin be as demanding on-field as Jarryd McVeigh? Why can’t Deledio impose his will? And Rance more often?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mark-robinson-says-every-person-at-richmond-must-take-blame-for-tigers-onfield-woes/story-fni5f0at-1226940635984
As far as Robbo articles are concerned this wasn't too bad but he is wacko for pooling Cotchin, Deledio, and even Rance in this discussion. Cotchin, and Deledio are always in positions where they try and resurrect the team when they are suffering from chronic back pain from carrying over half the list. Rance is the only defender whom although has classic Rance moments provides run our of the D50.
Quite simply, without Cotchin, Deledio, and Rance we would be 0-10 and be worse off than GWS.
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Great article. Can't believe he is being bagged. Our culture is amongst our supporters too
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Actually found it hard to really disagree with almost anything he wrote and that's sad but based on where we are right now it's reality
Don't agree completely with his comments about Hardwick getting better as a coach in 4 years time but as I said agree with most of it
We are our own worst enemy sometimes
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Fans need to take some blame as well, c'mon guys don't be shy you know what you have done
You know that don't sound as stupid as it does. ;D Maybe the players are playing for the fans & not themselves.
If they played for each other then they would play better footy & win a darn premiership.
The Richmond fans are the most ruthless in the AFL, not toothless like the Collinwood supporters or the cheating scum at Carlton & Essendon or favored by the umpires like Geelong Sydney & Hawthorn. ;D
Maybe its time we encouraged the team & the club instead of wanting their blood every week & someone's head to roll.
Just maybe if us supporters gave it a rest & cheered them on that the 30+ years of wanting will change the culture.
l will be the 1st supporter to stand up & say l have been ruthless & trashed the players & the club & my own blood. So for the rest of the year l will put the sharp axe away. ;D l will cheer them on & think positive & hope they can turn their game around & have some good wins or even play some decent football for Geez sake.
maybe its us fans that can help change the culture. l watch Robbo all the time & you can see it he wants Richmond to be a great club & play great football. He even said this himself last night. he is frustrated like all of us.
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;D but l aint going to anymore games this year :santa
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Fans need to take some blame as well, c'mon guys don't be shy you know what you have done
You know that don't sound as stupid as it does. ;D Maybe the players are playing for the fans & not themselves.
If they played for each other then they would play better footy & win a darn premiership.
The Richmond fans are the most ruthless in the AFL, not toothless like the Collinwood supporters or the cheating scum at Carlton & Essendon or favored by the umpires like Geelong Sydney & Hawthorn. ;D
Maybe its time we encouraged the team & the club instead of wanting their blood every week & someone's head to roll.
Just maybe if us supporters gave it a rest & cheered them on that the 30+ years of wanting will change the culture.
l will be the 1st supporter to stand up & say l have been ruthless & trashed the players & the club & my own blood. So for the rest of the year l will put the sharp axe away. ;D l will cheer them on & think positive & hope they can turn their game around & have some good wins or even play some decent football for Geez sake.
maybe its us fans that can help change the culture. l watch Robbo all the time & you can see it he wants Richmond to be a great club & play great football. He even said this himself last night. he is frustrated like all of us.
You havent been ruthless enough Monky. We need to see more ruthlessness from you ;D
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It doesn't sound like the old TM, either he has had a life changing moment of someone has hacked his account
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Actually found it hard to really disagree with almost anything he wrote and that's sad but based on where we are right now it's reality
Don't agree completely with his comments about Hardwick getting better as a coach in 4 years time but as I said agree with most of it
We are our own worst enemy sometimes
Agree. Most of the article hard to disagree with.
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It is the fault of the entire club-team selection, recruiting, culture and game plan etc. There needs to be an external review of the football department of this club at season end. It appears the media now have no qualms naming names the club shouldn't either.
They dont do external reviews. Its a protected boys club at Richmond and everyone knows it. They slap each other on the back and drink their own bathwater down there in the Administration and oh yeah I forgot they ask themselves everyday how they can get better and improve their own performance. Its a farce.
Not bathwater, toilet water
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Robbo great article.
Now go to your office down Southbank in HWT building and write an article with this title with big bold letters and the headline.
EVERY PERSON AT ESSENDON IN 2012 MUST TAKE BLAME FOR THE BOMBERS DRUGS SCANDAL.
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What a bloody lot of rot from a shock jock, total control at Punt rd :dancing
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What a bloody lot of rot from a shock jock, total control at Punt rd :dancing
Absolutely BJ.
At RFC we control our destiny.
The more we fall the more they control. :lol :rollin :lol
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What a bloody lot of rot from a shock jock, total control at Punt rd :dancing
Absolutely BJ.
At RFC we control our destiny.
The more we fall the more they control. :lol :rollin :lol
:clapping
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What does Robbo know about being successful? He's an Essendon supporter. You looked like a muppet last year, robbo. Actually you look like a muppet every year.
Yep, let's all sit down and listen to the Robbo/Essendon way of success. We'll really learn something.
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It doesn't sound like the old TM, either he has had a life changing moment of someone has hacked his account
No life changing moments apart from getting older & hoping to see a few more premierships with my son before l die.