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Title: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Rampstar on June 09, 2014, 10:40:51 PM
Considering that most want a big name player do you want us to finish last so we can get the first pick in the PSD and National Draft which will mean that we can pinch an uncontracted player for free via the PSD. Yes or No.
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on June 09, 2014, 10:46:14 PM
No
What's the point
We will stuff the selection up anyway
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: TigerLand on June 09, 2014, 11:13:27 PM
For the first time ever I feel that the problem is bigger than just personal.

We have had reasonable success with first round draft picks. We will get a top 6 pick anyway. Obviously pick 1 is better than pick 6 but we have bigger issues that need fixing that a pick 1 compared to a pick 6 won't fix.
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Diocletian on June 09, 2014, 11:27:23 PM
Meaningless wins in season junk time don't build a winning culture and never have, whether you're wooden spooners or premiers, once the new season begins, the past is another country. How many times have we finished strongly after the season's shot only to fall in the same old poo heap the following year? All we do is get ahead of ourselves again, gloss over the real problems and take it easy in the off season again. Playing well when the pressure's off has never been our issue. 

Rest of this year should be about finding out about the whole list and planning for next year and beyond. , Melbourne & Port have shown that you can change things almost instantly simply with better coaching, smarter list management and above all demanding higher standards, regardless of how many games you won the year before.

Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: (•))(Š™ on June 09, 2014, 11:31:28 PM
If they aimed to finish last they would finish .9th.

Just sayin....
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Diocletian on June 10, 2014, 12:19:00 AM
If they aimed to finish last they would finish .9th.

Just sayin....

We should actually aim to finish 9th one year. Will probably win the flag.
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: (•))(Š™ on June 10, 2014, 01:48:39 AM
It's THAT obvious !!
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 10, 2014, 05:40:10 AM
 We already have a loser mentality, why reinforce it?
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: yellowandback on June 10, 2014, 05:59:39 AM
Er I thought that's what we were doing?  :lol
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: eliminator on June 10, 2014, 06:48:43 AM
No. Way we are going we won't need to try.
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 10, 2014, 08:02:11 AM
Of course we should. It worked for Carlton
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: bojangles17 on June 10, 2014, 08:04:40 AM
I can't see us finishing outside bottom four , that ensure a pretty good draft pick
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 10, 2014, 08:06:08 AM
I can't see us finishing outside bottom four , that ensure a pretty good draft pick
Any mail on this ?
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 10, 2014, 08:09:58 AM
Play the Yoof and try win



DEa.  Darrou Grimes.
Donuts. ARance. Bachelor.
Helbig. Miles. Conca
Deledio. Griffith's. Martin
Arnot Jack. Lennon.
Maric. Vlastuin. Cotchin


McIntosh. Gordon. Llyod. Elton

Etc.

Or just keep playing grigg/Chaplin/houli and focus on 9th

 :banghead
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Rampstar on June 10, 2014, 09:18:53 AM
If they aimed to finish last they would finish .9th.

Just sayin....

Finishing last gets you the 1st pick in the PSD which is a great way to get a star player for free. Richmond should be ruthless and start shafting opposition clubs.
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: cub on June 10, 2014, 10:35:36 AM
Just no
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 10, 2014, 10:36:14 AM
If they aimed to finish last they would finish .9th.

Just sayin....

Finishing last gets you the 1st pick in the PSD which is a great way to get a star player for free. Richmond should be ruthless and start shafting opposition clubs.

I like this idea but don't think we should be tanking
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 10, 2014, 12:26:17 PM
As I have said previously, we don't need to stop trying to win. That is wrong.

We need to play all our youngsters and rest our injured senior players and the results will fall accordingly.

If the youngsters start winning games that would actually be better.  They will show they are actually better than the older guys!
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 10, 2014, 12:27:55 PM
As I have said previously, we don't need to stop trying to win. That is wrong.

We need to play all our youngsters
and rest our injured senior players and the results will fall accordingly.

If the youngsters start winning games that would actually be better.  They will show they are actually better than the older guys!

ja

 :bow
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: unplugged on June 10, 2014, 01:19:51 PM
Looks like we might finish last by accident.
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Rampstar on June 10, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
If they aimed to finish last they would finish .9th.

Just sayin....

Finishing last gets you the 1st pick in the PSD which is a great way to get a star player for free. Richmond should be ruthless and start shafting opposition clubs.

I like this idea but don't think we should be tanking

I always worry when you like my ideas HRT.  ;D  Lastly who wouldnt want to get Nathan Fyfe for free. Everyone would. We should shaft Fremantle if we can.
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: bojangles17 on June 10, 2014, 06:46:29 PM
We ve got a war chest and plenty of room in the cap, we ll be able to exploit that advantage at psd provided we finish bottom 4, the way things are panning out that's likely  :shh
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: WA Tiger on June 10, 2014, 07:14:35 PM
Of course we want to finish last sheesh, are we playing like we want to finish any higher???
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: the claw on June 10, 2014, 07:26:41 PM
As I have said previously, we don't need to stop trying to win. That is wrong.

We need to play all our youngsters and rest our injured senior players and the results will fall accordingly.

If the youngsters start winning games that would actually be better.  They will show they are actually better than the older guys!
agree. must keep good structure and some experience though so the kids have some sort of chance of showing off their potential.
rotate em thru  and play em all. every junior if fit could have at least 3 4 games behind them  some who go well more.

Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: (•))(Š™ on June 10, 2014, 07:40:03 PM
Don't delude urself that the clubs tanking.
Little smileys and poo.

They're a rabble that IS trying to win but is so far off, it exposes just how much of a mess the WHOLE place is.

Tanking already my arse.
Idealist toss bags
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on June 10, 2014, 08:17:54 PM
a few posters here are in on the sham. sheesh
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 10, 2014, 10:38:26 PM
Don't delude urself that the clubs tanking.
Little smileys and poo.

They're a rabble that IS trying to win but is so far off, it exposes just how much of a mess the WHOLE place is.

Tanking already my arse.
Idealist toss bags

Club aint tanking. Replace the t with a w and you you'll get your answer on what the club is doing. :help
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Rampstar on June 14, 2014, 06:42:08 PM
Just did my ladder predictor and we get the wooden spoon and first choice in both the national and preseason draft. Its gonna be their last chance to save the football club by bringing in quality players.
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 14, 2014, 09:45:51 PM
Just did my ladder predictor and we get the wooden spoon and first choice in both the national and preseason draft. Its gonna be their last chance to save the football club by bringing in quality players.

I thought the 2004 draft after we won the spoon was our last chance. 5 picks in the top 20 a new coach. They even made t-shirts RFC 1983-2004 I was there when we were Skata.
I thought then 2010 was there last chance. The coach said he would not deviate from the path that leads to success and will not cut corners in rebuilding the side and that even if he doesn't coach the flag it will be the side that he moulds that will be the gravy train of success for that incoming coach.

Now Ramps your telling me a spoon this year and its our last chance. I'm disturbed. Too much de ja vu for my liking. This club has had more chances at getting it right than Wile E Coyote catching the Roadrunner. When it comes to the RFC I'm passed logic and reasoning.I just wanna take the pee out of these failures for my own satisfaction.;D
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: tony_montana on June 14, 2014, 09:50:37 PM
so true  :lol
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: (•))(Š™ on June 14, 2014, 09:56:41 PM
Aim for last -  Finish 9th :thumbsup
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: one-eyed on June 21, 2014, 04:37:18 AM
Triple M Footy @triplemfooty twitter:

Richmond Coach Damien Hardwick - "we've had our rebuild stage... we have to start getting some wins on the board"
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Rampstar on June 21, 2014, 09:58:29 AM
Triple M Footy @triplemfooty twitter:

Richmond Coach Damien Hardwick - "we've had our rebuild stage... we have to start getting some wins on the board"

 :lol

the supporters must have missed it  then dimma. been nice having ya as a coach but youll be unemployed at the end of next year  ;D
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 21, 2014, 10:02:22 AM
Triple M Footy @triplemfooty twitter:

Richmond Coach Damien Hardwick - "we've had our rebuild stage... we have to start getting some wins on the board"

As long as dimma sleeps better at night

9th v 18th
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: The Big Richo on June 21, 2014, 12:17:00 PM
I can't see us finishing outside bottom four , that ensure a pretty good draft pick

We ve got a war chest and plenty of room in the cap, we ll be able to exploit that advantage at psd provided we finish bottom 4, the way things are panning out that's likely  :shh

Pretty negative view here, Jang-Jang.

Disappointed in you.
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 21, 2014, 12:50:01 PM
I can't see us finishing outside bottom four , that ensure a pretty good draft pick

We ve got a war chest and plenty of room in the cap, we ll be able to exploit that advantage at psd provided we finish bottom 4, the way things are panning out that's likely  :shh

Pretty negative view here, Jang-Jang.

Disappointed in you.

Why is it negative? The club plays in a system where the talent pool has been systematically diluted to expand the comp. the only real method to add top line talent is very high picks. It's all very well and good to crap on otherwise - but can't keep the head in the sand forever 
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 21, 2014, 01:01:51 PM
"At the end of the day, if you put in a 3-10 season you're not going to get crowds," Hardwick said after the loss to the Swans, which came after the Tigers were 26 points up midway though the second quarter.

"We've got to make sure we start winning some games to get people back.

"We like to think we play an exciting brand of footy. Tonight was probably a war of attrition more so than anything else, but we've got to make sure we do ourselves a favour and win some games."


Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 21, 2014, 06:58:10 PM
We require a topn3 talent

Like Harley benel

Hardwick Mission for 9th is not ideal
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Owl on June 21, 2014, 07:31:04 PM
It is a ridiculous situation we have been placed in, we were trying to rebuild when they were giving all the top picks to the to McFootball Franchises who then on traded players and picks to the likes of Colling stuffing wood for their dreg discards after Eddie pulled some bs jedi mindtricks so basically the stuffing pricks who didn't need top picks get them at the expense of the clubs who did, (what a wonderful magical surstuffingprise)  and everyone else gets to suffer for another ten years courtesy of fat Dimetriou (may he choke on a dolmade),  and his cadre of pole smokers.
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: The Big Richo on June 21, 2014, 07:34:55 PM
I can't see us finishing outside bottom four , that ensure a pretty good draft pick

We ve got a war chest and plenty of room in the cap, we ll be able to exploit that advantage at psd provided we finish bottom 4, the way things are panning out that's likely  :shh

Pretty negative view here, Jang-Jang.

Disappointed in you.

Why is it negative? The club plays in a system where the talent pool has been systematically diluted to expand the comp. the only real method to add top line talent is very high picks. It's all very well and good to crap on otherwise - but can't keep the head in the sand forever

Jangy saying we will finish bottom 4 is the negative bit, I thought his mail would suggest a late season charge at the 8.  :shh
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 21, 2014, 08:04:08 PM
No matter what we do we will stuff it up. It is the new DNA the club has ingrained itself with.

We had 5 picks in the top 20 just 10 years ago and other than Lids they are no longer playing.
Hawthorn had 3 in the top 7 and all 3 would walk into any club in the league still.

FJ is still in the job. I don't care how under or over resourced we were or are now the club can't get past making the right choice past the first round and even then the jury for some is out on Ellis and Conca.

This club is mediocre on and off field.

The Skata Cycle. 32 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop. ŽŠ™
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Chuck17 on June 22, 2014, 08:38:32 AM
It's all falling into place but the Lions will give us stiff competition
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: WA Tiger on June 22, 2014, 11:48:40 AM
Top 3 pick!!  :thumbsup :clapping :pray
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Smokey on June 22, 2014, 12:04:34 PM
It is a ridiculous situation we have been placed in, we were trying to rebuild when they were giving all the top picks to the to McFootball Franchises who then on traded players and picks to the likes of Colling stuffing wood for their dreg discards after Eddie pulled some bs jedi mindtricks so basically the stuffing pricks who didn't need top picks get them at the expense of the clubs who did, (what a wonderful magical surstuffingprise)  and everyone else gets to suffer for another ten years courtesy of fat Dimetriou (may he choke on a dolmade),  and his cadre of pole smokers.

 :lol

 :clapping
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: torch on June 22, 2014, 02:01:22 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: Rampstar on June 22, 2014, 06:13:21 PM
doesnt change the fact that we seem to recruit talentless squibs who are either afraid of a contest, have some sort of allergy to tackling, running hard or kicking the ball properly. to be honest I have real doubts that our recruiting team would have any better anyway.
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: WA Tiger on July 07, 2014, 08:33:23 AM
Not going to plan now, but I am sure we can get back on the loosing track.. :thumbsup

Saints and Lions were the worst wins I have ever seen and I would of loved losses...but...anyway.

Its important now that we refocus and get back on the loosing streak and this should happen next weekend. We currently sit 12th and this is not acceptable, we must get back down that ladder... :gotigers....LOSE!!! ;D
Title: Re: Should we finish Last on purpose so we can get the first pick in ND & PSD?
Post by: the claw on July 07, 2014, 10:52:09 AM
loose with as many kids as possible while staying competetive, or win with as many kids as possible while obviously staying competetive would be a win win with either scenario.

a no win situation is playing the oldies and winning or losing. there is nothing to be gained in the long term and plenty to lose.