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Hawthorn inquires about Richmond skipper Trent Cotchin’s contract status with ‘Buddy money’ in mind
Jay Clark
Herald Sun
June 23, 2014 9:00PM
HAWTHORN has inquired about the contract status of Richmond captain Trent Cotchin as the reigning premier prepares to spend its “Buddy money” on another star.
The Hawks made the recent approach to Cotchin’s management company, Elite Sports Properties, to help identify potential replacements for its ageing batch of champion midfielders.
After losing superstar Lance Franklin to Sydney last year, the cashed-up Hawks have more than $1 million a year in their salary cap to poach established talent.
Cotchin, 24, is set to become a free agent when his contract expires at the end of next season.
Richmond remains supremely confident of keeping the two-time best and fairest at Punt Rd, but may face a nervous wait if the slick on-baller delays talks on his next deal into next season.
Worryingly for rivals, the Hawks’ inquiry about Cotchin shows it has the capacity and intention to recruit one of the game’s premier players to help spearhead its next premiership push.
While any bid to try to prise Cotchin out of Richmond would be a long-shot, it is understood the Tigers’ skipper meets the specific demands of Hawthorn’s recruiting profile, including age, player type and character.
Hawthorn faces a major transition phase in the next few years, replacing a brigade of veteran onball stars and respected leaders such as captain Luke Hodge, 30, Brad Sewell, 30 and Sam Mitchell, 31.
It also wants a key backman to take over from veteran full-back Brian Lake.
Victorians Cotchin, Adelaide superstar Patrick Dangerfield and West Coast Eagle on-baller Scott Selwood headline the midfield talent in next year’s free agency pool.
Hawthorn is also in the hunt for Fremantle on-baller David Mundy and has been linked to another Docker Nat Fyfe and Greater Western Sydney midfielder Dylan Shiel.
But the club has dismissed an asking price of $800,000 a season from Melbourne key position player James Frawley.
Alastair Clarkson’s men have relied heavily on trading in established talent to win premierships in 2008 and last year.
Hawthorn has had limited access to top-end young talent at the draft in that time, utilising only three top-20 picks in the past seven national drafts.
Instead, it has carefully targeted recycled stars Shaun Burgoyne, David Hale, Josh Gibson, Ben McEvoy and Lake among others.
Hawthorn would not comment on Cotchin, while Richmond did not return the Herald Sun’s phone call on Monday.
In its 2013 strategic plan, Hawthorn outlined its vision to be “The Destination Club”.
The blue print included targets to maintain a top-four finish in each of the next five years, despite the impending player turnover.
President Andrew Newbold last year said the club would be aggressive in its bid to stay at the top.
“We have a lot of confidence in our recruiting and Graeme Wright, and the challenge to him is to replace the stars and have young blokes coming up ready to step up into their shoes,” Newbold said.
“We are under no illusions that is a tough ask in this environment where if you stand still for five minutes you get overtaken.”
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/hawthorn-inquires-about-richmond-skipper-trent-cotchins-contract-status-with-buddy-money-in-mind/story-e6frf3e3-1226964217933?from=public_rss&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
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This is why they win flags and we win poo.! They target stars and we target Moneyball jokers who cost a lot anyway. Richmond FC admin is a joke. A bunch of losers who slap each other on the back and tell each other how good they are :lol
Got a newsflash for you guys at Punt Road .... we're all laughing at you coz your all so stuffing hopeless when it comes to running Richmond FC successfully.
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Beef up his price. Rance the real target..
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This is why they win flags and we win poo.! They target stars and we target Moneyball jokers who cost a lot anyway. Richmond FC admin is a joke. A bunch of losers who slap each other on the back and tell each other how good they are :lol
Got a newsflash for you guys at Punt Road .... we're all laughing at you coz your all so stuffing hopeless when it comes to running Richmond FC successfully.
:clapping
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Richmond Rant / Re: Trent Cotchin [merged]
« on: June 08, 2014, 10:26:45 PM »
He wants out! The Hawks are all over him, he is very soft mentally and doesn't work hard enough and sooked up over the open criticism from the group the other week. Jogs along side contests instead of hunting the ball carrier, only interested if he can get the ball himself. Move him on and get something for him
Jay is a little late on this one!
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He'd be amazing at a good club.
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He'd be amazing at a good club.
He was runner up in the brownlow at RFC ::)
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Beef up his price. Rance the real target..
Spot on, hawks have had a hardon for Rance for yrs, made a big play for him when dimma first got here.
From what I know, Cotch is currently a on about 700k, would hate to think he will get a pay rise next contract. Needs to take less and set an example for the club. If he's honest he will admit he's not worth what he's on ATM and has been paid overs the past 2 seasons
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Imagine our fans if he went to the hawks. Someone woulp probably kidmap him and dismember him
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He'd be amazing at a good club.
He was runner up in the brownlow at RFC ::)
Yep when we were playing decent footy and he had less attention. Imagine at a top club with great development and no pressure.
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He'd be amazing at a good club.
He was runner up in the brownlow at RFC ::)
Yep when we were playing decent footy and he had less attention. Imagine at a top club with great development and no pressure.
No doubt about it he'd be a triple brownlow medalist.
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Good luck to him. Deserves success, not embarrassment.
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Hopefully free agent compensation isn't scrapped by then. Or just shop him around now to get more than a single first round compo if he isn't committed and captaincy is just something to stick on a resumè.
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Good luck to him. Deserves success, not embarrassment.
Screw that. Get some better players around him FFS.
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Problem is, to do that we need a coach who
1- understands what a good player is so he can recruit such, not griggs, houlis, thomas's, hampsons.
2- can develop them further and LEAD them to success by being a role model they want to work for.
Furthermore, idiot is contracted for 2 more years and Cotch only for one
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Good luck to him. Deserves success, not embarrassment.
Screw that. Get some better players around him FFS.
Under the Hackson/Hartley/Hardwick regime? Not likely.
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Good luck to him. Deserves success, not embarrassment.
Screw that. Get some better players around him FFS.
x2
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That's why we get no we're as a club if Cotchin is on 700k that's a joke !.
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Furthermore, stuffstick is contracted for 2 more years and Cotch only for one
Yeah but that was Cotchin's choice Ox.
They offered him 4-5 years and he decided on 2 because he wanted to back himself to improve more (aka position for more $$) due to FA
So does this mean we are going to have the "Cotchin Contract Sweepstakes" for the next 18 months like we did Lids and Dusty the last couple of seasons ;D
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Furthermore, stuffstick is contracted for 2 more years and Cotch only for one
Yeah but that was Cotchin's choice Ox.
They offered him 4-5 years and he decided on 2 because he wanted to back himself to improve more (aka position for more $$) due to FA
So does this mean we are going to have the "Cotchin Contract Sweepstakes" for the next 18 months like we did Lids and Dusty the last couple of seasons ;D
Add Jack to that list.
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Why would he want to stay and work for an embarrassing organisation.
Have said this next year is going to get a whole lot worse
Cotchin Dusty will hold off talks combined with early losses, and the RFC will self destruct as we know it to do
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Furthermore, stuffstick is contracted for 2 more years and Cotch only for one
Yeah but that was Cotchin's choice Ox.
They offered him 4-5 years and he decided on 2 because he wanted to back himself to improve more (aka position for more $$) due to FA
So does this mean we are going to have the "Cotchin Contract Sweepstakes" for the next 18 months like we did Lids and Dusty the last couple of seasons ;D
Reckon his value should've went down :lol
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Damaged goods.
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Hawks dial up Trent Cotchin
Joshua Papanikolaou
SEN
25-6-2014
Hawthorn vice-captain Jordan Lewis is not surprised his club has reportedly made an approach to Tigers captain Trent Cotchin given the greater options available to players in the era of free agency.
The Hawks are said to have made an inquiry with Cotchin’s management since the 24 year-old becomes a free agent at the end of next year.
Lewis has said on Fox Sports that all clubs are planning for the future behind closed doors and admitted it would be irresponsible of a club not to explore any possible signings.
“Because I think the landscape now is that these players are going to be targeted from other clubs, especially the good clubs.
“It’s funny how these stories get out, whether they’re true or not I’m not too sure.
“I think any player that comes out of contract in this free agency thing that we’re going to have to deal with it would be remiss of a club not to ask.”
http://www.sen.com.au/display-article-2013/Hawks-dial-up-Trent-Cotchin/70539
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He'd be amazing at a good club.
He was runner up in the brownlow at RFC ::)
Best non drug cheat
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He'd be amazing at a good club.
He was runner up in the brownlow at RFC ::)
Best non drug cheat
The way this whole saga has dragged on it seems so hollow.
Footy is the ultimate loser with credibility eroding by the day.
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Furthermore, stuffstick is contracted for 2 more years and Cotch only for one
Yeah but that was Cotchin's choice Ox.
They offered him 4-5 years and he decided on 2 because he wanted to back himself to improve more (aka position for more $$) due to FA
So does this mean we are going to have the "Cotchin Contract Sweepstakes" for the next 18 months like we did Lids and Dusty the last couple of seasons ;D
Reckon his value should've went down :lol
Only at Richmond.
Professional organisations take into account the fact he was at the RFC and have the structure to heal
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l could not care less who comes & goes. There is always someone better to replace them
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FA is a joke!
Surely it wasn't designed for 24/25 year olds to be able to move around this easy. Clubs put so much into these kids just to see them hold them to ransom the minute they can.
It should be designed for the 28/29 year olds (10 years of service to a club) at the end of their careers to move on either to maybe play in a premiership or to get better opportunities if not quite getting a regular game for their current club..
All it's doing is driving up prices of players in the middle of their careers.
Trent Cotchin should not have the right to move on at the end of next year, unless it's through a trade and the club has some say in what it gets in return.
AFL have f?$ked this up!
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FA is a joke!
Surely it wasn't designed for 24/25 year olds to be able to move around this easy. Clubs put so much into these kids just to see them hold them to ransom the minute they can.
It should be designed for the 28/29 year olds (10 years of service to a club) at the end of their careers to move on either to maybe play in a premiership or to get better opportunities if not quite getting a regular game for their current club..
All it's doing is driving up prices of players in the middle of their careers.
Trent Cotchin should not have the right to move on at the end of next year, unless it's through a trade and the club has some say in what it gets in return.
AFL have f?$ked this up!
It was the AFL players association that wanted it.
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There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9 :shh
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The HUN has been decidedly anti Richmond this week. Nice trolling by Robbo.
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lmao .. he wont be a premiership captain... not with us.. especially if dimma remains
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lmao .. he wont be a premiership captain... not with us.. especially if dimma remains
I'm not sure he s contracted to cotch retirement age ::) :banghead :wallywink :whistle
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FA is a joke!
Surely it wasn't designed for 24/25 year olds to be able to move around this easy. Clubs put so much into these kids just to see them hold them to ransom the minute they can.
It should be designed for the 28/29 year olds (10 years of service to a club) at the end of their careers to move on either to maybe play in a premiership or to get better opportunities if not quite getting a regular game for their current club..
All it's doing is driving up prices of players in the middle of their careers.
Trent Cotchin should not have the right to move on at the end of next year, unless it's through a trade and the club has some say in what it gets in return.
AFL have f?$ked this up!
Disagree. Free Agency is not a joke. Its our only hope as a football club, sadly our clubs administration dont know how to work the system properly. Other clubs target stars and we target players available from the Brotherhood Bins. Its not the fault of Free Agency, it is 100% the fault of Richmond FC its administrators and Football Department who just dont know how to compete properly for the best players or manage the clubs list management strategy properly.
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FA is a joke!
Surely it wasn't designed for 24/25 year olds to be able to move around this easy. Clubs put so much into these kids just to see them hold them to ransom the minute they can.
It should be designed for the 28/29 year olds (10 years of service to a club) at the end of their careers to move on either to maybe play in a premiership or to get better opportunities if not quite getting a regular game for their current club..
All it's doing is driving up prices of players in the middle of their careers.
Trent Cotchin should not have the right to move on at the end of next year, unless it's through a trade and the club has some say in what it gets in return.
AFL have f?$ked this up!
Disagree. Free Agency is not a joke. Its our only hope as a football club, sadly our clubs administration dont know how to work the system properly. Other clubs target stars and we target players available from the Brotherhood Bins. Its not the fault of Free Agency, it is 100% the fault of Richmond FC its administrators and Football Department who just dont know how to compete properly for the best players or manage the clubs list management strategy properly.
Agree. Though GC & GWS coming in and hoarding all the top kids at the same time it was introduced wasn't ideal for the bottom clubs. Still, no excuse for a predicament we've entirely put ourselves in.
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Really don't like the GWS GCS excuses for why we recruited poorly. Port were bottom same time. They had no trouble recruiting and trading for quality players. A great coach will attract great people and they will build the team around them. The expansion clubs offer a unique opportunity to steal the best talent in the game. It should be looked at that way. No way we would have gained Miles otherwise. Even then, we didn't want to play him.....
Tigers need to trade aggressively while players have value. Quickest way to build the list. If we can get a good deal for Cotchin, we should take it.
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Really don't like the GWS GCS excuses for why we recruited poorly. Port were bottom same time. They had no trouble recruiting and trading for quality players. A great coach will attract great people and they will build the team around them. The expansion clubs offer a unique opportunity to steal the best talent in the game. It should be looked at that way. No way we would have gained Miles otherwise. Even then, we didn't want to play him.....
Tigers need to trade aggressively while players have value. Quickest way to build the list. If we can get a good deal for Cotchin, we should take it.
Hence why I said "still, no excuse....."
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FA is a joke!
Surely it wasn't designed for 24/25 year olds to be able to move around this easy. Clubs put so much into these kids just to see them hold them to ransom the minute they can.
It should be designed for the 28/29 year olds (10 years of service to a club) at the end of their careers to move on either to maybe play in a premiership or to get better opportunities if not quite getting a regular game for their current club..
All it's doing is driving up prices of players in the middle of their careers.
Trent Cotchin should not have the right to move on at the end of next year, unless it's through a trade and the club has some say in what it gets in return.
AFL have f?$ked this up!
Disagree. Free Agency is not a joke. Its our only hope as a football club, sadly our clubs administration dont know how to work the system properly. Other clubs target stars and we target players available from the Brotherhood Bins. Its not the fault of Free Agency, it is 100% the fault of Richmond FC its administrators and Football Department who just dont know how to compete properly for the best players or manage the clubs list management strategy properly.
I like the idea of it but I think it should only be for players with 10 years service to a club. Then I think they have earned the right to make a call on where they want to finish their careers.
Drafted at 18, free to go elsewhere at 28.
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There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9 :shh
Really?
Then why did he only sign last year for 2 years instead of the 4/5 yrs that was on the table?
He will re-sign no doubt but could have avoided all this crap if committed long term last year.
And he wants to avoid the circus that's coming up he should tell his manager to get the deal done now so as a leader he makes a statement to his team mates that he is there for the long haul
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The RFC the AFL's one true basket case.
The RFC disappointing the fans with the same mistakes since 1982.®©™
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There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9 :shh
Really?
Then why did he only sign last year for 2 years instead of the 4/5 yrs that was on the table?
He will re-sign no doubt but could have avoided all this crap if committed long term last year.
And he wants to avoid the circus that's coming up he should tell his manager to get the deal done now so as a leader he makes a statement to his team mates that he is there for the long haul
Kid needs money and who blames him. P.S Fyfe has done the same thing
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There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9 :shh
Really?
Then why did he only sign last year for 2 years instead of the 4/5 yrs that was on the table?
He will re-sign no doubt but could have avoided all this crap if committed long term last year.
And he wants to avoid the circus that's coming up he should tell his manager to get the deal done now so as a leader he makes a statement to his team mates that he is there for the long haul
Kid needs money and who blames him. P.S Fyfe has done the same thing
Yeah and Fyfe re-signed yesterday for less money than being offered on the east coast
And BTW Cotchin is currently our highest paid player so I don't think he is living on poverty street ;D
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There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9 :shh
Really?
Then why did he only sign last year for 2 years instead of the 4/5 yrs that was on the table?
He will re-sign no doubt but could have avoided all this crap if committed long term last year.
And he wants to avoid the circus that's coming up he should tell his manager to get the deal done now so as a leader he makes a statement to his team mates that he is there for the long haul
Kid needs money and who blames him. P.S Fyfe has done the same thing
Yeah and Fyfe re-signed yesterday for less money than being offered on the east coast
And BTW Cotchin is currently our highest paid player so I don't think he is living on poverty street ;D
Team success translates to decision making too. Freo have been building since Lyon took over and they played in the GF last year we have been building for four years to crumble this year and be non competitive for the next 3. You can't help but understand why top shelf players don't come to RFC.
The best players want to be on the biggest stages not at RFC v GWS at Etihad in front of less than 15K at 1:10 on a Sunday in dreary July whilst on the same Collingwood play Hawthorn at 3:20 in front of 80K at the MCG.. :help
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Hence why I said "still, no excuse....."
Completely agree Diocletian.
We should have gone hard at the trade table last year while we looked like a team on the up. Will be a fair bit more challenging to trade for players now without some huge off field changes.
I don't think Cotchin is a guarantee to stay. Never seems like his heart is at the tigers. Very conservative footballer. Players like Riewoldt and Deledio, you know they bleed Richmond (irrespective of their performances). Never had that feeling about Cotchin.
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Hence why I said "still, no excuse....."
Completely agree Diocletian.
We should have gone hard at the trade table last year while we looked like a team on the up. Will be a fair bit more challenging to trade for players now without some huge off field changes.
I don't think Cotchin is a guarantee to stay. Never seems like his heart is at the tigers. Very conservative footballer. Players like Riewoldt and Deledio, you know they bleed Richmond (irrespective of their performances). Never had that feeling about Cotchin.
Gees your a flog
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There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9 :shh
Really?
Then why did he only sign last year for 2 years instead of the 4/5 yrs that was on the table?
He will re-sign no doubt but could have avoided all this crap if committed long term last year.
And he wants to avoid the circus that's coming up he should tell his manager to get the deal done now so as a leader he makes a statement to his team mates that he is there for the long haul
Agree WP.
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There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9 :shh
Really?
Then why did he only sign last year for 2 years instead of the 4/5 yrs that was on the table?
He will re-sign no doubt but could have avoided all this crap if committed long term last year.
And he wants to avoid the circus that's coming up he should tell his manager to get the deal done now so as a leader he makes a statement to his team mates that he is there for the long haul
To maximize his commercial value of course , why on earth would he sell himself short , this contract will be for at least 4-5 years, 3-4mn
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Heard a rumour that if he does leave it will be more likely in a westerly direction than an easterly one.
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There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9 :shh
Really?
Then why did he only sign last year for 2 years instead of the 4/5 yrs that was on the table?
He will re-sign no doubt but could have avoided all this crap if committed long term last year.
And he wants to avoid the circus that's coming up he should tell his manager to get the deal done now so as a leader he makes a statement to his team mates that he is there for the long haul
Kid needs money and who blames him. P.S Fyfe has done the same thing
Yeah and Fyfe re-signed yesterday for less money than being offered on the east coast
And BTW Cotchin is currently our highest paid player so I don't think he is living on poverty street ;D
Cotchin signed for less than he was offered elsewhere.
I don't think any of them including the guy holding the specky bag are on poverty street but I bet all of them would take more money if offered.
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Heard a rumour that if he does leave it will be more likely in a westerly direction than an easterly one.
He would round off Port real nicely
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Heard a rumour that if he does leave it will be more likely in a westerly direction than an easterly one.
He would round off Port real nicely
Not necessarily that far west.
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Cotchin signed for less than he was offered elsewhere.
I don't think any of them including the guy holding the specky bag are on poverty street but I bet all of them would take more money if offered.
Did he? ;D
There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9 :shh
Really?
Then why did he only sign last year for 2 years instead of the 4/5 yrs that was on the table?
He will re-sign no doubt but could have avoided all this crap if committed long term last year.
And he wants to avoid the circus that's coming up he should tell his manager to get the deal done now so as a leader he makes a statement to his team mates that he is there for the long haul
To maximize his commercial value of course , why on earth would he sell himself short , this contract will be for at least 4-5 years, 3-4mn
So are you implying that it's only about the money with Cotchin then? You know about maximising his value of course and getting the best possible deal?
Perhaps it's best you quit now, before you paint him as a mercenary ;D
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Trent Cotchin = Richmond Captain
Not leaving Richmond.
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Heard a rumour that if he does leave it will be more likely in a westerly direction than an easterly one.
rubbish artist Facts are in football circles, every club in the league is currently reviewing RFC warehouse of tAlent , take a number :shh
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Trent Cotchin = Richmond Captain
Not leaving Richmond.
yep