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Title: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 05, 2014, 07:04:54 PM
Theyre the ones with the poo attitudes that r effecting the team

Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 05, 2014, 07:10:48 PM
Felt for Jack today

Got man handled so many times today right in front of the umpire it wasn't funny. Throw in the pathetic delivery and no wonder he comes across as sooking. He leads out from the goal square and dopey Jackson kicks it to the pocket

You'd be doing this   :scream or this   :banghead too
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Gigantor on July 05, 2014, 07:12:17 PM
But if you watch jack he is appears to be constantly calling for the ball to be kicked over the top.....why,just so he can take the specky?
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Diocletian on July 05, 2014, 07:14:20 PM
For Patton/Cameron & Shiels - definitely.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: The Machine on July 05, 2014, 07:15:25 PM
The delivery to the forwards is the worst in the comp.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: tdy on July 05, 2014, 07:22:32 PM
Lids would be worth something on the trade table.  A 1st rounder and maybe a 2nd too but its hard to trade big names like that without eating into a team.

I'd keep Jack, he can kick it between the sticks, so few other players can in our team, we'd be utterly woeful without him.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: bojangles17 on July 05, 2014, 07:37:48 PM
Lids has been battling to overcome the archilles injury sustained earlier , any word of trading him is poppy cock  :shh
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 05, 2014, 07:52:57 PM
Would trade Deledio to GWS.
Given we both finish in bottom half dozen or so would trade him for an early pick with to them if possible that way he have two picks in the first half dozen or so.
Deledio looks like he is disinterested ATM. As if his five year contract was just that little bit too long.

Furthermore trading a key forward needs to be done to a St. Kilda or a Dogs who are crying out for one. That way we can either get early draft pick picks. Ie a Vickery to them could attract a 2nd rounder. Especially given the Dogs paid overs IMHO for Crameri.

If the club is looking at picking up players on other lists go to GWS or GC 17 who have heaps of kids who can play but aren't seeing enough game time due to the copious amounts of stockpiled talents on their list.

To get something good we need to give something up and ATM to me Deledio looks like his heart is not in it.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 05, 2014, 08:06:43 PM
Lids would be worth something on the trade table.  A 1st rounder and maybe a 2nd too but its hard to trade big names like that without eating into a team.



There's nothing left to eat.were a bottom 2 team.....
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 05, 2014, 08:09:55 PM
Lids has been battling to overcome the archilles injury sustained earlier , any word of trading him is poppy cock  :shh

That is an excuse for his inability to impact a game this year not a reason why he is disinterested.
Could be time for both parties to benefit from a mutual separation. :shh
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 05, 2014, 08:11:06 PM
Have you a masters in psychology or taro cards?
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Diocletian on July 05, 2014, 08:13:34 PM
Have you a masters in psychology or taro cards?

You have one...from Clown College.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 05, 2014, 08:17:49 PM
He's a professional tagee
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 05, 2014, 08:20:26 PM
Have you a masters in psychology or taro cards?

Judging the quality of most of our posts you'd be lucky to have the maturity of a 15 year old.

Might have to take that Deledio poster of your wall at the end of the year.

Copy and paste something for me. I'm in the mood for some plageurism. :thumbsup

If you think Deledio is the be all and end all think again. I know you love him but he has been nowhere near the player he has been. :help

I know it hurts but it will be best for all of us.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Andyy on July 06, 2014, 12:47:13 AM
I wanted to trade Lids for pick 1/Boyd. Bloke is a B+ player only. Love him and all but it's the truth. Years of doing it on his own probably killed him.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Chuck17 on July 06, 2014, 07:13:38 AM
Troll thread
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: flea03 on July 06, 2014, 11:06:51 AM
trade cotchin and foley u mean


lids and jack bleed for this club and are our true leaders
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Chuck17 on July 06, 2014, 11:08:14 AM
Delete some posters, do the world a favour
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: bojangles17 on July 06, 2014, 11:10:24 AM
Exactly  :shh
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: unplugged on July 06, 2014, 11:20:33 AM
Delete some posters, do the world a favour

Yeah delete chuck.  Do the world a favour.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: the claw on July 06, 2014, 11:23:19 AM
Lids would be worth something on the trade table.  A 1st rounder and maybe a 2nd too but its hard to trade big names like that without eating into a team.

I'd keep Jack, he can kick it between the sticks, so few other players can in our team, we'd be utterly woeful without him.
this.
firstly if i believed all areas of the footy dept especially recruiting and list management could build a premiership side (which i dont) then there would be just a few considerations to make.

1/ how competetive do we wish to remain in the short term. if we trade away our better players people had better be prepared to cop absolute beltings. are we prepared to go thru 09 and 10 like seasons right now.
2/ what is a realistic time frame to build a premiership list looking at where the list is currently at.
3/ can we afford to lose quality players or do we build on them.

personally i think we are miles away from being even a top 4 side. at least 3 real good  nd and trade periods. thats if we can add to the good players we have.if we trade em away plus  some time to get games into quality kids id say at least 5 yrs away likely longer  if we trade out our better players.

on deledio he turns 28 in april so imo i think hes tradeable right now. id be happy to take gws pick 2 and one of the kids who want out like orourke and jaksch.  on riewoldt we have no choice but keep him but we sure as hell need at least two more real good key fwds. the kpf id not hesitate to trade out is vickery he would gain us a top 25 pick.

if we had good recruiters which we dont so its all moot we could trade both deledio and vickery and end up with something like this

nd- 2, orourke/jaksch,  5, 23, 25, 41. not a bad rebuild base if you know what your doing.  to do this you have to accept you need to rebuild or strongly continue to rebuild.both the club and most supporters dont acknowledge this. so once again its all moot.

Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 06, 2014, 11:23:43 AM
Get off fleas t@s.

He is sticking up for lids and jack and copping a pasting? Please.

Trading lids and jack is the ultimate robbing peter to pay Paul.

Rance-lids-jack-cotchin-martin should be untouchable

Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Rampstar on July 06, 2014, 12:33:29 PM
Get off fleas t@s.

He is sticking up for lids and jack and copping a pasting? Please.

Trading lids and jack is the ultimate robbing peter to pay Paul.

Rance-lids-jack-cotchin-martin should be untouchable

the judge is correct  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Yeahright on July 06, 2014, 01:28:14 PM
Delete some posters, do the world a favour

Yeah delete chuck.  Do the world a favour.

At least he's not a constant negative twit
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: big tone on July 06, 2014, 04:50:27 PM
I'd trade Lids if it were upto me. I know it's not a popular view but I think it's best for the RFC IMO.
He has been great for the club but I just think it would benefit us more for us to trade him now.  I don't think he is a leader and doesn't stand up in big games very often.
GWS need quality mids with experience and lids is just that. We would get their first round pick, they don't need anymore kids.
We are 3 or 4 years away from being a serious challenger if we do everything right from now till then. And by then Lids will be past his best if he isn't already. It's all about timing your list to be at it's best.
Get a kid in now and look to the future. We would have two picks inside the first 6/7.
Would also trade Griff, Houli, Grigg, Batchelor, if we could get anything for them.
We need to be bold, and some tough calls need to be made.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Chuck17 on July 07, 2014, 09:25:41 AM
I'd trade Lids if it were upto me. I know it's not a popular view but I think it's best for the RFC IMO.
He has been great for the club but I just think it would benefit us more for us to trade him now.  I don't think he is a leader and doesn't stand up in big games very often.
GWS need quality mids with experience and lids is just that. We would get their first round pick, they don't need anymore kids.
We are 3 or 4 years away from being a serious challenger if we do everything right from now till then. And by then Lids will be past his best if he isn't already. It's all about timing your list to be at it's best.
Get a kid in now and look to the future. We would have two picks inside the first 6/7.
Would also trade Griff, Houli, Grigg, Batchelor, if we could get anything for them.
We need to be bold, and some tough calls need to be made.

I never would have considered it before, but with his age and trade value it may be a good move
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 07, 2014, 09:32:58 AM
I'd be wanting at least a Boyd/bennell/cameron AND a top 2 pick

You don't know u got till its gone. Lida is our best player and a Gun. If he leaves expect him to. Wind up a top five player in the league

Like franklin who in dislike less now he's not at the hawks. A change of environment would do himwwonders
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: unplugged on July 07, 2014, 12:09:24 PM
Delete some posters, do the world a favour

Yeah delete chuck.  Do the world a favour.

At least he's not a constant negative twit

Like you?  One line kings.  0 Substance.  Yeah wrong again.

I like Deledio but if we don't trade him now, he will be worthless in a couple of years time.  You would keep him if you were planning on winning a flag in the next two years.  If not, he deserves an opportunity at a club where he might see some finals footy and a couple of good juniors would improve the clubs future prospects.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Yeahright on July 07, 2014, 06:58:51 PM
I'd be wanting at least a Boyd/bennell/cameron AND a top 2 pick

You don't know u got till its gone. Lida is our best player and a Gun. If he leaves expect him to. Wind up a top five player in the league

Like franklin who in dislike less now he's not at the hawks. A change of environment would do himwwonders

I'd want all 4. Lids is a gun but I don't think he is what we need. Either way I won't lose any sleep
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Tigers of Old on July 07, 2014, 07:28:26 PM
Yeah lets get rid of the ones who can play. :banghead
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 07, 2014, 07:36:05 PM
Yeh, because trading players WITH good currency is a dumb idea....
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: tony_montana on July 07, 2014, 07:57:35 PM
If we could turn it into a win ie 2 x top 10-15 picks or in swap I wouldn't be adverse to it.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 07, 2014, 07:58:33 PM
U would trade lids for pick 14 and 15?
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: tony_montana on July 07, 2014, 08:02:02 PM
U would trade lids for pick 14 and 15?

why do u always need to be such a literal ass?

Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: the claw on July 07, 2014, 08:05:58 PM
U would trade lids for pick 14 and 15?

why do u always need to be such a literal ass?
juvenile delinquency i think.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: the claw on July 07, 2014, 08:27:35 PM
If we could turn it into a win ie 2 x top 10-15 picks or in swap I wouldn't be adverse to it.
what pick 2 and one of jaksch or orourke not a big enough win for you. id be over the moon with that. if we managed  a 15 to 25 pick for vickery it would be gold. even better would be garlett and carltons 2nd rounder for vickery and our 3rd rounder.

geez you could do some real damage with picks 2 and one of orourke or jaksch, pick   5, pick 23 pick 25 and garlett and 51.
pick 2 and 5 would allow us to take a top notch kpp and mid, we gain a quality kpp or mid in orourke or jaksch,  we get two fantastic early second round picks in 23 and 25 we gain a good sml fwd garlett and still have options.our trouble is lids at 28 would want success almost straight away if he were to go. gws still look yrs away and id doubt he would want to go there. one thing in our favor is hes contracted to 2017 so he couldnt just walk on us.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: tony_montana on July 07, 2014, 08:44:42 PM
If we could turn it into a win ie 2 x top 10-15 picks or in swap I wouldn't be adverse to it.
what pick 2 and one of jaksch or orourke not a big enough win for you. id be over the moon with that. if we managed  a 15 to 25 pick for vickery it would be gold. even better would be garlett and carltons 2nd rounder for vickery and our 3rd rounder.

geez you could do some real damage with picks 2 and one of orourke or jaksch, pick   5, pick 23 pick 25 and garlett and 51.
pick 2 and 5 would allow us to take a top notch kpp and mid, we gain a quality kpp or mid in orourke or jaksch,  we get two fantastic early second round picks in 23 and 25 we gain a good sml fwd garlett and still have options.our trouble is lids at 28 would want success almost straight away if he were to go. gws still look yrs away and id doubt he would want to go there. one thing in our favor is hes contracted to 2017 so he couldnt just walk on us.

Pick 2 and jaksch? sign me up. O'Rourke Im not completely sold on tbh - Is he a poor mans version of whitfield? who I think is overated anyhow..

do u really think we'd get 2 x top 5 picks for Lids? I don't.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: Tigers of Old on July 07, 2014, 09:07:24 PM
Deledio is one of our few good kicks of the football and who can break the lines.
He's had some foot troubles this year but the former pick 1 has been a fine Richmond champ.
No way known I would trade him. He'll retire a Tiger and hopefully a premiership winning one.

I'm not even going to dignify the notion of trading Riewoldt.

We need to add to our handful of genuinely good players right now, not get rid of them in the hope that a couple of draft picks come on again a few years time.
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: big tone on July 07, 2014, 09:48:35 PM
If we could turn it into a win ie 2 x top 10-15 picks or in swap I wouldn't be adverse to it.
what pick 2 and one of jaksch or orourke not a big enough win for you. id be over the moon with that. if we managed  a 15 to 25 pick for vickery it would be gold. even better would be garlett and carltons 2nd rounder for vickery and our 3rd rounder.

geez you could do some real damage with picks 2 and one of orourke or jaksch, pick   5, pick 23 pick 25 and garlett and 51.
pick 2 and 5 would allow us to take a top notch kpp and mid, we gain a quality kpp or mid in orourke or jaksch,  we get two fantastic early second round picks in 23 and 25 we gain a good sml fwd garlett and still have options.our trouble is lids at 28 would want success almost straight away if he were to go. gws still look yrs away and id doubt he would want to go there. one thing in our favor is hes contracted to 2017 so he couldnt just walk on us.

Pick 2 and jaksch? sign me up. O'Rourke Im not completely sold on tbh - Is he a poor mans version of plowman? who I think is overated anyhow..

do u really think we'd get 2 x top 5 picks for Lids? I don't.
Me either. I'd take pick 2 and run. Draft a GENUINE KPF (not a part time forward, part time ruckman)
Add that to our pick 6/7. Draft a GENUINE mid (not a part time mid, part time forward)
Spend Lids money on Chip through FA
Trade Griff for Garlett.
Trade or delist Grigg, Houli, Batcelor, Petterd, Hampson,O'Hanlon and Helbig
Retire King, A. Edwards and Newman
And draft in as many kids as possible. Its a numbers game, draft in 10, might get lucky and get 3 or 4 good ones.
The funny thing is with all that is Lids is the only one out of that lot who should be getting a game now IMO. Our side wouldn't even look any different but our list would.
Be bold Tigers
Title: Re: Trade Reiwoldt and Deledio
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 07, 2014, 10:04:56 PM
but - the imbeciles in charge will only pick duds, which makes it all a pointless exercise.

Sack them and let's get this done