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Title: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 13, 2014, 10:17:54 PM
Conca was concussed but, with the bye giving him a week off, he should be right for the trip to Perth.

Any changes?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles games?
Post by: Diocletian on July 13, 2014, 10:24:31 PM
Out: Morris

In: Dea
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles games?
Post by: Andyy on July 13, 2014, 10:25:51 PM
Don't think Newman did a lot. And Foley looked lost to me/nowhere near fast enough as the sub.

Would rather see game time going into Lennon. And thought Arnot was stiff to lose his spot, although admittedly he's not quick enough vs Port.

We were seriously lacking pace and line-breakers today.

Out:
Newman
Foley

In:
Lennon
? McDonough (pace for Patterson's)
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles games?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 13, 2014, 10:40:14 PM
INS: Dea

OUTS: Morris
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles games?
Post by: Diocletian on July 13, 2014, 10:42:47 PM
Don't think Newman did a lot. And Foley looked lost to me/nowhere near fast enough as the sub.

Would rather see game time going into Lennon. And thought Arnot was stiff to lose his spot, although admittedly he's not quick enough vs Port.

We were seriously lacking pace and line-breakers today.

Out:
Newman
Foley

In:
Lennon
? McDonough (pace for Patterson's)

McDonough isn't that quick...if you want pace bring in Gordon...or upgrade Banfumbles and bring him in.

Lennon went off injured last night - not sure how he pulled up.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles games?
Post by: Andyy on July 13, 2014, 10:46:53 PM
Yeah Gordon was my other thought but not sure how he's tracking.

What happened to Lennon?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles games?
Post by: Diocletian on July 13, 2014, 10:54:04 PM
Yeah Gordon was my other thought but not sure how he's tracking.

What happened to Lennon?

Some kind of leg injury I think, don't know exactly but he limped off before half-time and didn't return.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles games?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 13, 2014, 10:59:23 PM
Chaplin for a McBean Elton Griffiths
Newman for donuts


Would like to see get a go before year ends, at least one of: arnot, Lennon, dea. I miss Dea greatly.  Maybe for foley.

Surely the time has come whe we move beyond Grigg. Hampson. Thomas at first grade.

I can't believe Ellis finished with 30 odd touches. Congrats to houli on being less shyte.

Bachelor should not be dropped
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on July 14, 2014, 07:50:48 AM
Jackson ??? Very ordinary yesterday
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles games?
Post by: Chuck17 on July 14, 2014, 10:50:44 AM
INS: Dea

OUTS: Morris

X 2 plus Hampson to stay out
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 14, 2014, 12:33:19 PM
Jackson ??? Very ordinary yesterday

fine by me
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Simonator on July 14, 2014, 12:58:16 PM
Dont think anyone should be dropped.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 14, 2014, 03:13:12 PM
The Barometer - Round 18 (prior to bye weekend)
Herald-Sun
14 July 2014


RICHMOND

ON THE BLOCK: Damien Hardwick says Reece Conca will be right to face the Eagles in 11 days after he was taken off in a neck brace following a sickening hit from Matthew Lobbe. Starting sub Nathan Foley replaced him and had 10 disposals while Nick Vlastuin was quiet against Port after kicking the opening goal. Jake Batchelor remains on the fringe of the best 22.

ON THE CUSP: A great weekend all around for Richmond with the VFL side scoring a come-from-behind win against Geelong. Chris Knights played his first game in three months and starred with 20 disposals before being rested late, Matt McDonough was best on ground and Nathan Gordon and Brad Helbig were also named in the best. It’s a matter of when, not if, exciting young big man Liam McBean gets a crack at senior level after sparking the comeback with four goals and several towering marks.

AL PATON’S FORECAST: This is what Richmond fans, and the footy world, have been waiting to see all year. Winning the hard ball and moving it quickly to a hot Jack Riewoldt, the Tigers looked for all the world like a team that won 15 games last year. But an impressive win poses the obvious question - where has this effort been all year? Fielding a close to full-strength side including with Brett Deledio and Ivan Maric finally back to their 2013 form certainly helps. And Alex Rance is quietly putting together a season that could challenge for All Australian selection despite missing six games, claiming another big scalp in Jay Schulz.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-barometer-we-look-at-every-clubs-injury-list-and-selection-posers-ahead-of-round-18/story-stuff-1226988303810
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: TigerMonk on July 14, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
l would rest Morris because he costs us goals & his shoulders are about to fall off  ;D
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 14, 2014, 07:26:55 PM
out

KFC arm
Conca -  i just dont want him to have ongoing medical issues ;D
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on July 14, 2014, 08:10:39 PM
Jackson ??? Very ordinary yesterday

fine by me

7 possessions
Your easily pleased
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Yeahright on July 14, 2014, 10:02:43 PM
I think he meant dropping Jackson is fine by him.
I feel sorry for Morris reckon he's copping a bit of stuff but really he was just the one trying to break the line when his mates were hand balling everyone into trouble and he took it on himself to get us out.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Andyy on July 14, 2014, 11:45:52 PM
Watched the replay. Not as angry with Morris anymore. Sometimes he had nobody to kick to, but he sure went hard for the ball at times.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles games?
Post by: Diocletian on July 15, 2014, 06:27:30 PM
Yeah Gordon was my other thought but not sure how he's tracking.

What happened to Lennon?

Some kind of leg injury I think, don't know exactly but he limped off before half-time and didn't return.

Ok apparently it wasn't his leg but concussion.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 15, 2014, 06:41:58 PM
 concussed ankle?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Diocletian on July 15, 2014, 06:48:29 PM
concussed ankle?

Cankle?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: RedanTiger on July 15, 2014, 07:03:47 PM
Out:
Morris - just stop for the season and get the arm fixed, we have replacements.
Newman - he should retire at end of season, time to look at some kids.
Jackson - don't think he's fit, outputs down and needs a break.

In:
Dea - give him the extended run to see if he improves over time.
O'Hanlon - didn't think he deserved to be dropped and could replace Newman.
Arnot - another that didn't deserve to be dropped and needs, like others, to find if he can do the job long term.

And then swap the sub
Give Foley the full game. He deserves it over Conca who gets the vest and a shortened run after concussion and a week off.

Of course none of those will happen cos for some reason the stupids at Richmond think the fans are desparate to see Newman reach 250 and must have the killer desire of Morris and Jackson.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Chuck17 on July 15, 2014, 07:04:55 PM
Jackson ??? Very ordinary yesterday

fine by me

7 possessions
Your easily pleased

Did he really only get 7 possessions, seemed like more
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles games?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 15, 2014, 07:38:22 PM
Yeah Gordon was my other thought but not sure how he's tracking.

What happened to Lennon?

Some kind of leg injury I think, don't know exactly but he limped off before half-time and didn't return.

Ok apparently it wasn't his leg but concussion.

bruised plums?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 15, 2014, 07:43:04 PM
I see conca as "the special" kid ( if u know what i mean).

The side tries too hard to include his type of play and suffers because of it.

Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Smokey on July 15, 2014, 08:24:45 PM
Out:
Morris - just stop for the season and get the arm fixed, we have replacements.
Newman - he should retire at end of season, time to look at some kids.
Jackson - don't think he's fit, outputs down and needs a break.

In:
Dea - give him the extended run to see if he improves over time.
O'Hanlon - didn't think he deserved to be dropped and could replace Newman.
Arnot - another that didn't deserve to be dropped and needs, like others, to find if he can do the job long term.

And then swap the sub
Give Foley the full game. He deserves it over Conca who gets the vest and a shortened run after concussion and a week off.

Of course none of those will happen cos for some reason the stupids at Richmond think the fans are desparate to see Newman reach 250 and must have the killer desire of Morris and Jackson.

What he said.

 :clapping
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 15, 2014, 09:09:00 PM
I see conca as "the special" kid ( if u know what i mean).

The side tries too hard to include his type of play and suffers because of it.

should wear a helmet, especially when running through the banner
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on July 16, 2014, 06:19:56 AM
Arnott .no thanks
Was insipid on sat night down at Geelong
Never takes his opportunity when given
Note Sam Lloyd's performance .takes the opportunity
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: eliminator on July 16, 2014, 06:44:14 AM
Out:
Morris - just stop for the season and get the arm fixed, we have replacements.
Newman - he should retire at end of season, time to look at some kids.
Jackson - don't think he's fit, outputs down and needs a break.

In:
Dea - give him the extended run to see if he improves over time.
O'Hanlon - didn't think he deserved to be dropped and could replace Newman.
Arnot - another that didn't deserve to be dropped and needs, like others, to find if he can do the job long term.


And then swap the sub
Give Foley the full game. He deserves it over Conca who gets the vest and a shortened run after concussion and a week off.

Of course none of those will happen cos for some reason the stupids at Richmond think the fans are desparate to see Newman reach 250 and must have the killer desire of Morris and Jackson.

Agree. Play Arnot as an inside mid not as a small forward. Play him in position and see how he goes.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on July 16, 2014, 06:50:25 AM
Out: Morris, Petterd
In: McDonough, Mcbean
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 16, 2014, 07:12:16 AM
Out: Morris, Petterd
In: McDonough, Mcbean
Are you mad? ;D
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Willy on July 16, 2014, 10:38:00 AM
Petterd was good on the weekend. Definitely shouldn't be dropped.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: tiga on July 16, 2014, 11:20:45 AM
Definitely not Petterd. Was in our bests last couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: The Big Richo on July 16, 2014, 11:29:55 AM
Out: Jackson

In: Play with 21.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Andyy on July 16, 2014, 11:32:55 AM
I hate to say it, but I'm starting to warm to Petterd a bit as a player. Disposal leaves a bit to be desired at times, but you sure can't question his courage/attack on the ball. Puts his body on the line along with Miles and Conca.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Chuck17 on July 16, 2014, 12:42:47 PM
I hate to say it, but I'm starting to warm to Petterd a bit as a player. Disposal leaves a bit to be desired at times, but you sure can't question his courage/attack on the ball. Puts his body on the line along with Miles and Conca.

Yeah me too, can't believe I am coming around to him a bit
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Willy on July 16, 2014, 05:34:39 PM
I'm not sold on him either but he wins more contests than he loses.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: the claw on July 16, 2014, 06:21:59 PM
ins- mcdonough, helbig, gordon, mcbean,dea  lennon. in with the kids and kids it seems that are going okay
outs - sheesh take your pick theres heaps of hacks in the 22. newman, houli, jackson, morris, grimes, batchelor, conca, edwards, petterd, vickery for starters.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 16, 2014, 06:29:49 PM
OUT: Lloyd, Petterd, Miles, Dusty,

IN: Thomas, Hampson, Grigg, A Edwards,
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Yeahright on July 16, 2014, 06:48:02 PM
ins- mcdonough, helbig, gordon, mcbean,dea  lennon. in with the kids and kids it seems that are going okay
outs - sheesh take your pick theres heaps of hacks in the 22. newman, houli, jackson, morris, grimes, batchelor, conca, edwards, petterd, vickery for starters.

Sorry Claw but your input is invalid since you no longer watch our games.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 16, 2014, 08:47:41 PM
outs - sheesh take your pick theres heaps of hacks in the 22. newman, houli, jackson, morris, grimes, batchelor, conca, edwards, petterd, vickery for starters.

Sorry no credibility with those outs. As YR said in the post above you admit to longer watching our games and your outs prove it

6 of the blokes you listed played good or really good games last week against Port and based solely on their collective performances they cannot nor should they be dropped

For the record the 6 are:

Houli: his best game of the season

Batchelor: not many possies but played his role and work rate was very good, loved his shepherd and then gut run forward in the 2nd (think it was) that set up a goal throw in the 1% and I reckon he did a good job
Conca: again his inside work was excellent before he got knocked out. 5 tackles and 12 pressure acts

Petterd: think everyone else has covered his efforts off, but again his attack on the contest is fantastic

Edwards: has a had a shocking year but his game on Sunday was very good. 22 pressure acts means he is working hard defensively which is a major criticism of his game
 
Vickery: thought he back up well after his good game against Brissie. Went missing a few times but when the game was on the line in the final qtr, that contested mark and goal was excellent

Grimes was serviceable as well
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 16, 2014, 08:51:37 PM
Bachelor in good nick. Ditto Grimes .dea should get houli spot

Wp what at Edwards pressure acts for year?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Gigantor on July 16, 2014, 08:59:25 PM
Just maybe with consistency of continuous games we are slowly starting to see grimesy get back to some of that form that made most of us sit up and take notice..
Despite Houlis best efforts I still think his defensive play is poor.Although his creative play off half back last week was very good
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: the claw on July 16, 2014, 09:07:52 PM
outs - sheesh take your pick theres heaps of hacks in the 22. newman, houli, jackson, morris, grimes, batchelor, conca, edwards, petterd, vickery for starters.

Sorry no credibility with those outs. As YR said in the post above you admit to longer watching our games and your outs prove it

6 of the blokes you listed played good or really good games last week against Port and based solely on their collective performances they cannot nor should they be dropped

For the record the 6 are:

Houli: his best game of the season

Batchelor: not many possies but played his role and work rate was very good, loved his shepherd and then gut run forward in the 2nd (think it was) that set up a goal throw in the 1% and I reckon he did a good job
Conca: again his inside work was excellent before he got knocked out. 5 tackles and 12 pressure acts

Petterd: think everyone else has covered his efforts off, but again his attack on the contest is fantastic

Edwards: has a had a shocking year but his game on Sunday was very good. 22 pressure acts means he is working hard defensively which is a major criticism of his game
 
Vickery: thought he back up well after his good game against Brissie. Went missing a few times but when the game was on the line in the final qtr, that contested mark and goal was excellent

Grimes was serviceable as well

lol  i no longer need to look at the hacks i mentioned. im not after credability im certain time will prove me correct as it has for yrs on end now. i say what i say based on three simple criteria. strengths weakness and over all performance.


   on a regular basis most of those mentioned will let you down in fact they already have.. i couldnt give a stuff about how they are going right now.  they arent good enough except on the odd occasion and their history confirms this.
logically some need to go before others geez i may even get the odd one wrong and they prove to be decent players.

 we love our duds at tigerland. we love em so much we put the blinkers on and think they will miraculously become good consistent players yr in yr out.
 well perhaps you need to see more of em to confirm one way or the other. me ive seen enough and with most of those named im more than happy to make a call on em. ive seen enough most of em wont takle us anywhere.
no i want us to improve on those mentioned.
isnt it funny all the problems magically disappear after a win or two.  well theyy dont disappear they just get swept under the carpet to become a bigger problem down the track. they end up clogging up the vacuum until it explodes.

ffs the yr is shot the very real need still remains weather we win or lose to play and develop as many of the younger blokes as possible. sorry wp you back the duds in me i reckon the only way to improve is to find better and the only way to find out if we have better is to give em a game.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Gigantor on July 16, 2014, 09:36:57 PM
I don't understand....A player plays a good game so we should drop  him?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 16, 2014, 10:03:34 PM
lol  i no longer need to look at the hacks i mentioned. im not after credability im certain time will prove me correct as it has for yrs on end now. i say what i say based on three simple criteria. strengths weakness and over all performance.

You can have whatever criteria you like but based on the game just played and that's what my criteria is you cannot drop all the players you listed

I am not disputing for a second that the majority of the players you listed have had poor seasons and most who haven't been dropped should have been before now. But based on last weekend's game they don't deserve to be dropped. That's not "loving duds" as you describe it; it is making calls on what I watched at the game on Sunday and on the replay.

I will repeat if you refuse to now watch games then your listed "outs" have very little credibility


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    we love our duds at tigerland. we love em so much we put the blinkers on and think they will miraculously become good consistent players yr in yr out.
 well perhaps you need to see more of em to confirm one way or the other. me ive seen enough and with most of those named im more than happy to make a call on em. ive seen enough most of em wont takle us anywhere.
no i want us to improve on those mentioned.

Guess what I want us to improve too. Just because I refuse to drop certain players after they've done the right things doesn't mean I don't want us to improve. If you followed what I have posted for the last 6 weeks you'd know I have been calling for the kids to be played and favourites to be dropped because the favourites have been playing crap football. But on the weekend a number of those favourites played well and because of that they deserve to hold their spots.

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isnt it funny all the problems magically disappear after a win or two. 

Never said nor have I even implied it. But if helps you to make your case then so be it


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sorry wp you back the duds in me i reckon the only way to improve is to find better and the only way to find out if we have better is to give em a game.

I will repeat again and hopefully you are prepared to understand it or at the very least acknowledge it. For the last 6 weeks I have called for the kids to be played and favourites to be dropped because the favourites have been playing crap football. But on the weekend a number of those favourites played well and because of that they deserve to hold their spots for the next game no matter how unpalatable that is for you or me.

I am not backing duds as you put it I'm just acknowledging that a number of players you say should be dropped played decent enough games to deserve to hold their spots, nothing more and nothing less
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: DCrane on July 16, 2014, 10:10:21 PM
I hate to say it, but I'm starting to warm to Petterd a bit as a player. Disposal leaves a bit to be desired at times, but you sure can't question his courage/attack on the ball. Puts his body on the line along with Miles and Conca.
I breathed a sigh of relief when I read that post. It's time I 'came out' on Petterd also. His courage, pressure and self sacrificial acts have been at a really high standard, actually I would have him only marginally behind Rance in setting the standards in these areas. Here is a guy fighting for his career and he has responded well, I'm impressed. Footy smarts was never the issue with Petterd, it seemed there were other things at play and he looks to have addressed them whatever they are/were. Yes, the kicking is still suss but do we really need him getting 25 possies or do we want him in a FP being dangerous around goal and he is a pretty good lead too. If he is up for renewal at the end of the season, I would like to see him extended.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: eliminator on July 17, 2014, 06:48:37 AM
Must stay in the forward line. He is a liability elsewhere. His kicking is not flash but having said that if he keeps kicking a couple of goals a game and continues to play with the same level of courage and determination he should retain his position in the side.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: yellowandback on July 17, 2014, 07:08:15 AM
I hate to say it, but I'm starting to warm to Petterd a bit as a player. Disposal leaves a bit to be desired at times, but you sure can't question his courage/attack on the ball. Puts his body on the line along with Miles and Conca.
I breathed a sigh of relief when I read that post. It's time I 'came out' on Petterd also. His courage, pressure and self sacrificial acts have been at a really high standard, actually I would have him only marginally behind Rance in setting the standards in these areas. Here is a guy fighting for his career and he has responded well, I'm impressed. Footy smarts was never the issue with Petterd, it seemed there were other things at play and he looks to have addressed them whatever they are/were. Yes, the kicking is still suss but do we really need him getting 25 possies or do we want him in a FP being dangerous around goal and he is a pretty good lead too. If he is up for renewal at the end of the season, I would like to see him extended.

Good to see you've also Thorpedeod as well. You've brought a powerful new voice to Pettard rights.  :lol
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 17, 2014, 07:48:09 AM
He's been good since he player twos vs the drug cheats at punt road
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Smokey on July 17, 2014, 09:14:11 AM

Good to see you've also Thorpedeod as well. You've brought a powerful new voice to Pettard rights.  :lol

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: the claw on July 17, 2014, 06:40:55 PM
lol  i no longer need to look at the hacks i mentioned. im not after credability im certain time will prove me correct as it has for yrs on end now. i say what i say based on three simple criteria. strengths weakness and over all performance.

1/ You can have whatever criteria you like but based on the game just played and that's what my criteria is you cannot drop all the players you listed

I am not disputing for a second that the majority of the players you listed have had poor seasons and most who haven't been dropped should have been before now. But based on last weekend's game they don't deserve to be dropped. That's not "loving duds" as you describe it; it is making calls on what I watched at the game on Sunday and on the replay.

I will repeat if you refuse to now watch games then your listed "outs" have very little credibility


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    we love our duds at tigerland. we love em so much we put the blinkers on and think they will miraculously become good consistent players yr in yr out.
 well perhaps you need to see more of em to confirm one way or the other. me ive seen enough and with most of those named im more than happy to make a call on em. ive seen enough most of em wont takle us anywhere.
no i want us to improve on those mentioned.

2/ Guess what I want us to improve too. Just because I refuse to drop certain players after they've done the right things doesn't mean I don't want us to improve. If you followed what I have posted for the last 6 weeks you'd know I have been calling for the kids to be played and favourites to be dropped because the favourites have been playing crap football. But on the weekend a number of those favourites played well and because of that they deserve to hold their spots.

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isnt it funny all the problems magically disappear after a win or two. 

3/ Never said nor have I even implied it. But if helps you to make your case then so be it


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sorry wp you back the duds in me i reckon the only way to improve is to find better and the only way to find out if we have better is to give em a game.

4/ I will repeat again and hopefully you are prepared to understand it or at the very least acknowledge it. For the last 6 weeks I have called for the kids to be played and favourites to be dropped because the favourites have been playing crap football. But on the weekend a number of those favourites played well and because of that they deserve to hold their spots for the next game no matter how unpalatable that is for you or me.

I am not backing duds as you put it I'm just acknowledging that a number of players you say should be dropped played decent enough games to deserve to hold their spots, nothing more and nothing less
1/ reckon we are past playing hacks on performance good or bad. there are just 4/5 weeks left and the real emphasis should be on finding players and trying players. a good game here or there every now and then doesnt help us one bit.  we all know who they are why play em regardless of what they did last week we all know they will revert back.

2/ we need to look past cameo performances. as stated we have just 4 weeks to look at other options. we cant play finals  our yr is shot its too late for hacks to be playing okay footy  time to look at the other options we have regardless of form. if i was truly worried about winning id pick probably our oldest side which would be full of duds with no long term future.

3/ the comment was a generalisation not specifically aimes st you. but it sure as hell seems as soon as we win the apologists come out.

4/ yes you are backing duds based on one game. you say it yourself  calling em duds you call for kids and acknowledge the need to play kids,  but are happy to see hacks get games because they played one decent game. think we need to look further than week to week and concentrate soley on the long term. if that view means a lack of credability or consistency so be it im guilty.
i would have thought it was time to rest cotchin send morris for surgery anyone with niggles be rested and anyone who is a regular and has shown an inability to consistently perform at the required level should be dropped.

so we have missed finals we have very little to play for, its obvious to most we need a overhaul of sorts and we continue to do exactly the same things that has us in the mess.
if you cant grasp where im coming from then tough i dont give a poo. if you think that lacks credability thats fine by me.
all im basically saying is we are way beyond picking players based on a decent game. there are more important reasons to give blokes games.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 18, 2014, 11:20:17 PM
VFL Tigers’ senior push
John Lindon 
July 18, 2014


The impressive improvement of several Richmond youngsters in the VFL has kept the pressure on for spots in the Tigers’ AFL side.

Article mentions McDonough, Gordon, McBean and Stephenson.

Read more at:http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-18/vfl-tigers-senior-push
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: mightytiges on July 19, 2014, 11:38:00 PM
No changes. Subiaco's wide open spaces are for runners and last place you play snails like Thomas and Hampson. Grigg should come back via the VFL.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 20, 2014, 12:24:43 PM
Who will come out for Shaune Dirge ?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Chuck17 on July 20, 2014, 12:28:48 PM
Who will come out for Shaune Dirge ?

Grrrrrrrrriiiiigggggggg  :clapping

Needs to come back in
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Gigantor on July 20, 2014, 12:29:56 PM
the world of RFC is at peace currently......Please say NO to Grigg
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on July 21, 2014, 04:30:10 PM
Out .Jackson Petterd both injured
Ins.   A.Edwards and Thomas
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on July 21, 2014, 04:37:00 PM
Out .Jackson Petterd both injured
Ins.   A.Edwards and Thomas
Is this a prediction or a fact Jack?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 21, 2014, 04:37:35 PM
The Barometer - Round 18 - Part II
Herald-Sun
21 July 2014


RICHMOND

ON THE BLOCK: Reece Conca should pass a concussion test after an 11-day break but Nathan Foley might miss out. Nick Vlastuin and Jake Batchelor were also quiet against Port Adelaide.

ON THE CUSP: No VFL action for the Tigers at the weekend. Matt McDonough is banging down the door for a senior recall and Nathan Gordon’s pace could be handy on the expanses of Paterson’s Stadium. But Liam McBeam is the name on the lips of everyone’s tips, as Pixie Anne Wheatley used to say. A 202cm forward who moves like a small man, he has booted nine goals in the past two games in the VFL.

AL PATON’S FORECAST: A trip to Perth won’t hold too many fears for the Tigers, who scored a comfortable away win against the Eagles last year. Ivan Maric and Alex Rance could be the keys to winning the battle of two 2014 underperformers — if Richmond’s midfielders get first use and Josh Kennedy is held, the home side will find it tough. A win there and another against GWS at the MCG the week later (no certainty) would set up something looking a bit like a blockbuster against the Bombers in Round 20.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/part-ii-round-18-barometer/story-stuff-1226995915080
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game? / Jacko and Petterd out injured (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on July 21, 2014, 04:39:04 PM
Out .Jackson Petterd both injured
Ins.   A.Edwards and Thomas
Is this a prediction or a fact Jack?
His 'Outs' are based on fact, Fluffy.


Tiger duo to miss
richmondfc.com.au 
July 21, 2014 3:49 PM


Richmond will be without experienced duo Daniel Jackson and Ricky Petterd for this Friday night’s match against West Coast, due to injuries.

Jackson has been ruled out for at least a fortnight as he battles a glute injury, while Petterd (finger) is likely to be available for the Tigers’ Round 19 game against Greater Western Sydney.

In other injury news ahead of the clash against the Eagles, Reece Conca will bid to prove his fitness on the training track this week, after suffering concussion against Port Adelaide in Round 17.

Youngster Ben Lennon (concussion) and midfielder Shaun Grigg (hamstring) are also a chance to be available this weekend.


http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-21/tiger-duo-to-miss
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on July 21, 2014, 04:43:04 PM
Out .Jackson Petterd both injured
Ins.   A.Edwards and Thomas
Is this a prediction or a fact Jack?
His 'Outs' are based on fact, Fluffy.

Richmond will be without experienced duo Daniel Jackson and Ricky Petterd for this Friday night’s match against West Coast, due to injuries.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-21/tiger-duo-to-miss

Im more concered about the in's. Would hope they are wrong but who knows with the selections this year.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 21, 2014, 04:59:53 PM
WHY IN THE NAME OF stuff IS GRIGG EVEN IN THE MIX  ..

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRFKGRRKNGRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 21, 2014, 06:16:40 PM
Out .Jackson Petterd both injured
Ins.   A.Edwards and Thomas
Is this a prediction or a fact Jack?
His 'Outs' are based on fact, Fluffy.

Richmond will be without experienced duo Daniel Jackson and Ricky Petterd for this Friday night’s match against West Coast, due to injuries.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-21/tiger-duo-to-miss

Im more concered about the in's. Would hope they are wrong but who knows with the selections this year.

Agree on the vast expanse of Subi you can't bring in slow players, need speed not snails
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: pmac21 on July 21, 2014, 06:21:50 PM
Bring in McDonough & Dea
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Chuck17 on July 21, 2014, 08:01:13 PM
We are tanking aren't we = ins explained
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: eliminator on July 22, 2014, 06:53:04 AM
Have this dreadful Grigg will be brought in.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on July 22, 2014, 10:25:47 AM
Conca .might be an issue
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 22, 2014, 07:53:32 PM
Have this dreadful Grigg will be brought in.
Grigg is playing VFL this week.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 22, 2014, 07:54:38 PM
In the Mix - Round 18 (part two)
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
22 July 2014


RICHMOND
With six games remaining, there is a battle among the Tigers' fringe players to earn senior selection before the season is out. Mature-age recruit Nathan Gordon, who had 27 possessions and a goal in the VFL at the weekend, is staking his claim, as is young midfielder Matt McDonough (22 possessions and seven clearances). Both were influential in the VFL Tigers' win over Geelong. Tall forward Liam McBean is also finding form and the Tigers would be keen to expose him at AFL level for the first time before the season is finished. Opportunities will present with Dan Jackson (glute) and Ricky Petterd (finger) both sidelined this week. Regular senior players Reece Conca (concussion) and Shaun Grigg (hamstring) need to prove their fitness on the track ahead of Friday night's clash against West Coast, as does youngster Ben Lennon (concussion).

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-22/in-the-mix-round-18-part-two

Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: the claw on July 22, 2014, 08:40:08 PM
will say again bring in
mcdonough, dea, helbig, gordon, lennon and mcbean.
outs who gives a toss, theres so many who have been consistent hacks who gives a toss. lets have a look at those who havent had a go, its not as if we are playing for sheep stations atm, never a better time to try something new.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Yeahright on July 23, 2014, 12:10:57 AM
will say again bring in
mcdonough, dea, helbig, gordon, lennon and mcbean.
outs who gives a toss, theres so many who have been consistent hacks who gives a toss. lets have a look at those who havent had a go, its not as if we are playing for sheep stations atm, never a better time to try something new.

Not while finals are still a chance (Dimma hat on) ::)
Kids should of been in long long ago
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 23, 2014, 08:26:54 AM
Yeah we need to continue to go full Ross Lyon style at st kilda

Who gives a crap about a few generations of youth when we have 9th to aim for
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 23, 2014, 12:20:59 PM
who gives a toss
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Yeahright on July 23, 2014, 06:11:55 PM
who gives a toss

Richmond supporters
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 24, 2014, 10:08:28 AM
who gives a toss

Richmond supporters

the deluded 10% of supporters with an iq struggling to reach 70
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 24, 2014, 10:18:13 AM
who gives a toss

Richmond supporters
wouldn't have thought so after what we've displayed this year. Have a look at the crowd averages. They've deserted the joint big time
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Yeahright on July 24, 2014, 10:43:33 AM
who gives a toss

Richmond supporters

the deluded 10% of supporters with an iq struggling to reach 70

So everyones deluded because they care about the in's and out's even if they're calling for kids to be put in?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 24, 2014, 01:00:14 PM
Reckon there's gonna be some unhappy campers come 6.25pm this evening

Selection for this season tells us that we aint gonna get the kids, just the favourites  :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 24, 2014, 01:11:48 PM
Dea is flying over
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 24, 2014, 06:42:59 PM
who gives a toss

Richmond supporters

the deluded 10% of supporters with an iq struggling to reach 70

So everyones deluded because they care about the in's and out's even if they're calling for kids to be put in?

the kids dont get put in. again. as per this weeks selections. again.
supporters with half a brain know not to get excited because they know ordinary players will again be selected and wont take the club forward.

in Grigg out Pettard. in pettard out Jackson. in Jackson out thomas. in thomas out newman. in newman out grigg.

repeat repeat repeat x 22 its the same stuffing poot

anyone getting excited about that and thinking the club has a future is as bad as the club and deserves to have their hopes and dreams crushed