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Your club's best bet for the Brownlow
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
16th July 2014
Richmond
Leader: Trent Cotchin has polled the most votes for Richmond in each of the past three seasons, and he is unlikely to be headed in 2014. The skipper, who has polled a total of 60 votes in the past three Brownlow Medal counts, was at the forefront of the Tigers' early wins this season, lifting when it mattered against the Blues in round two and the Lions in round five. Lock in three votes now for his 31 possessions and five goals against the Saints in round 15.
Roughy: Like he did in 2013 and 2011, Dustin Martin is the most likely to tail Cotchin, but a true 'roughy' would be Brandon Ellis. The midfielder has been prolific since round six, averaging 29 possessions and racking up more than 30 on five occasions. The 20-year-old has polled five career votes but is well set to add to this total.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-16/brownlow-best-bet
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The RFC website is pumping up Cotch and Dusty's Brownlow chances ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-22/star-tiger-duos-brownlow-bid
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Stating the obvious but Garry Lyon tonight reckons Cotchin is a strong Brownlow chance and will pick up a fair few votes over our 7 win streak. Ablett and Pendlebury both gone for the season and Fyfe ineligible, the Brownlow is wide open this year.
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Still thinking Kennedy would get it. But if there was justice I'd like Rance to poll well because he has gone above in beyond in plugging holes in our backline
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Rance has missed too many.
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reckon the big Duzza will give Cotch a run
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Rance has missed too many.
True but I hope they give him the 3 points against Sydney. He was insanely good that night.
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Brownlow Medal bolters
Will Brodie
The Age
August 22, 2014
There are rules which usually apply when trying to identify the winner of the Brownlow Medal.
The medal-winner plays every round, polls in at least 10 games, plays for a team that makes the finals, and records three votes as best player on the ground at least six times. He is not necessarily the short favourite, but is well in the market. He has polled well before. And he is a midfielder.
This season shapes as an exception, on a number of counts.
Many of the perennial contenders have been less consistent than in previous campaigns, and dual winner Gary Ablett remains a chance to win despite being sidelined by injury since round 16. No player has won the game's highest individual honour when missing more than four games, but some pundits believe he was on 24 votes when he departed the scene, and that may be enough.
It may not be the 'midfielders medal' in 2014. Swans forward Lance Franklin, with another couple of big performances, may become the first non-onballer in a generation to take home Charlie. He gets a lot of the ball and his best games are undeniably three-vote efforts.
And then there is the prospect of most interest to poor fans everywhere: A roughie might get up.
Two weeks ago, Dyson Heppell and Matt Priddis were at generous odds. After big games at the weekend, they are in the top 10 picks. There will be other major fluctuations in the weeks to come.
With two rounds to play, there could be many players in contention. Here's our assessment of some of those to consider for an each-way ticket.
DUSTIN MARTIN Richmond Current odds: $101
Richmond's most consistent player in 2014 is up against vote-hog teammate Trent Cotchin, and may not get due reward for being so good when Richmond was so bad early in the season. He might also struggle to garner enough three-vote games. However, Martin polled 16 votes last year, and he could poll in 13 games. He needs a bit of luck, and a strong finish, but he is a great each-way bet at these odds.
TRENT COTCHIN Richmond $26
Cotchin has not been as consistent as in previous years, when he has proven the apple of the umpires' eyes – he polled 19 votes last year and 26 in 2012 – but he has had many outstanding games guaranteed to win him three votes, especially in Tiger victories. By our reckoning, his current range of possible votes is 17-24. That makes him as good a chance as players at half his odds.
LANCE FRANKLIN Sydney $16
The high-profile dynamo could break the mould of the 'midfielder's medal' because, unlike many star forwards, he wins his own ball up the ground, recording not just marks and goals, but stats worthy of a winger. Franklin's big games this year have been spectacular, and though he may need more votes, he is more likely than many other roughies to produce big three vote games in the final fortnight. We rate him to have a possible current maximum of 20 votes, with a minimum of 15, higher than most other outsiders. Polled 20 votes in 2008 and 2010.
ROBBIE GRAY Port Adelaide $34
The consistent half-forward/midfielder has had an outstanding season, giving himself a chance to poll in 13 games. He has no proven vote-winning form, many of his better efforts have come in losses and he seemingly lacks three-vote opportunities, but if he has emerged on umpire radars, two strong finishing games could make him a shock contender.
LUKE PARKER Sydney $101
Parker is a genuine roughie, who would probably need two BOGs to contend, but his consistent ball-winning makes him a contender for votes in 12 games. He has gone to a new level in 2014 in a breakout season that includes a couple of gilt-edged best-on-ground performances.
KIEREN JACK Sydney $151
At first glance, Jack's 2014 has not been at the level of his previous two seasons. But he could poll in nine games, and his projected highest possible votes won at this point is 20. Don't forget that Josh Kennedy was favoured to win big votes in 2012, and reaped 19 votes, however his chances were stymied by Jack's strong polling (15 votes), a pattern which continued last year when Jack picked up 19 votes. He is the one the umps notice, and at this price, well worth a speculative flutter with spare change.
PATRICK DANGERFIELD Adelaide $31
Dangerfield is another midfield dynamo whose best performances catch the umpires' eyes – in the past two seasons he was right in contention on the back of five best-on-ground counts. He have as a chance to poll in ten games, with three clear best-on-ground performances so far. Our guess he will need a low-scoring count, but two big games would see his odds sliced dramatically.
BRYCE GIBBS Carlton $101
The oft-maligned midfielder has embarrassed the critics with a superb 2014, leading the Blues onballers when his team was struggling, and starring in several wins when they began improving. He would have to nab best on ground status in each of his four biggest games, a tall order, given two were in narrow losses, but he fits the profile of a contender, having ten chances to poll.
JORDAN LEWIS Hawthorn $31
By our reckoning, Lewis will need two best on ground performances in his final two games to become a winning chance. He is not a proven vote-winner, having never polled in double figures, and he polled only only four votes in 2013. We rate him as a chance for three votes in only three games. And we feel that he will have only one to four votes before his supercharged run starts at round 12. So where will all the Hawk votes go? It has been a team effort in 2014. Jarryd Roughead, Luke Hodge, Jack Gunston, Sam Mitchell, Luke Breust and Shaun Burgoyne have had all had several outstanding games.
TRAVIS BOAK Port Adelaide $21
The Port Adelaide captain might be a little too far off the pace, having recorded three best-on-ground results during the Port's stellar first half of the season, and none since. We don't rate him as good a chance as some punters and have him on a current highest possible total of 16 votes. But he is a proven vote-winner and there are 11 games in which he is a chance to poll. Umpires might consider the tough distributor first amongst equals in the talented Port midfield.
SCOTT THOMPSON Adelaide $101
Ultra-consistent, perennial vote-hog who has again been a permanent placegetter on the Crows' best players lists. He could poll in nine games in a rich vein of form between rounds four and 15, but he has missed rounds 20 and 21 through injury. Returning for the final two games and could be worth a place ticket. Polled in 11 games on his way to 25 votes in 2012.
DAYNE BEAMS Collingwood $34
Beams was having as good a year as feted teammate Scott Pendlebury ($13), but his knee injury in round 21 will rule him out as a Brownlow Medal chance. A strong performance in the last three rounds would have had him right in the mix, for he is a chance to poll in ten games, a chance for best on ground in four, and we have him on a maximum of 19 votes when his season was cut short. Keep him in mind for next year and don't forget his 19 votes in 2012.
MICHAEL BARLOW Fremantle $81
The former mature-age recruit is scrutinised by Brownlow-watchers because of his extraordinary debut season in 2010, when he polled 12 votes in 13 games. He backed that with 14 votes last year. Barlow is right on the cusp of contention, with a possible maximum 18 votes and nine games in which we reckon he could poll. The problem is a four-game injury absence between rounds 3 and seven, and a broken thumb which will keep him out of the final two rounds. We think only G. Ablett can miss that many games and remain a winning chance.
BRAD EBERT Port Adelaide $101
Tough, ball-winning midfielder who started to capture attention of umpires in 2014 (11 votes). He would have been a short favourite if he continued his early season form, where he was in the best three Port Adelaide players for five straight weeks. His second half of the year has mirrored that of his team, with only one or two showings as impressive. With five possible chances for best on ground status, and the chance to poll in ten games, he remains a legitimate place chance.
THE DETAILS
H: Highest estimated current votes (after round 21)
L: Lowest estimated current votes (after round 21)
CP: Number of games player can poll in
TC: Number of chances for three vote games
Final line indicates rounds in which player may poll. * denotes possible three-vote game[/b]
LANCE FRANKLIN Sydney $16
H: 20, L: 15 CP: 7. TC: 5
Previous best: 2008, 2010: 20
3*, 9*, 13*, 14, 15*, 17*, 21
JORDAN LEWIS Hawthorn $31
H: 18, L: 11 CP: 10. TC: 3
Previous best: 2008: 9
3, 9, 10, 12, 15, 17, 18*, 19, 20*, 21*
TRAVIS BOAK Port Adelaide $21
H: 16, L: 11 CP: 11 TC: 4.
Previous best: 2013: 13; 2010: 16
1, 3, 4* 6* 8, 10*, 11, 14, 15, 17* 20, 21.
TRENT COTCHIN Richmond $26
H: 24, L: 17, CP: 11. TC: 5.
Previous best: 2013: 19; 2012 26; 2011: 15
1, 2*, 3, 6*, 14, 15*, 16, 17, 19*, 20, 21*
PATRICK DANGERFIELD Adelaide $31
H: 18, L: 11. CP: 10. TC: 3
Previous best: 2013: 22; 2012: 23.
2, 5*, 6, 7, 9*, 10, 11, 15, 17, 18*
ROBBIE GRAY Port Adelaide $34
H: 23 L: 10 CP: 13. TC: 2
Previous best: 2009, 2011: 6
3, 5*, 6, 7, 8, 11*, 12*, 14, 15, 16, 18, 20, 21
DAYNE BEAMS Collingwood $34
H: 19 L: 16 CP: 0. TC: 4
Previous best: 2012: 19
2, 4*, 6, 7, 10*, 11*, 15, 16, 18, 19*
MICHAEL BARLOW Fremantle $81
H: 18 L: 9 CP: 9. TC: 4
Previous best: 2013: 14; 2011 12
2*, 9, 11, 13, 14*, 16*, 19, 20*, 21
BRAD EBERT Port Adelaide $101
H: 22 L: 14 CP: 10. TC: 5
Previous best: 2013: 11
2, 3, 4*, 5*, 6*, 10*, 12, 13*, 18, 20
SCOTT THOMPSON Adelaide $101
H: 22 L: 13 CP: 10 TC: 4
Previous best: 2012: 25; 2011: 12; 2010: 15; 2009: 11; 2008: 15; 2007: 18
4*, 5*, 6, 7, 9, 10*, 11, 13, 14*, 15
BRYCE GIBBS Carlton $101
H: 22 L: 11 CP: 10 TC: 4
Previous best: 2011: 12; 2009: 15
5*, 6, 8*, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18*, 20, 21*
LUKE PARKER Sydney $101
H:19, L: 7 CP: 12. TC: 3
Previous best: 4, 2012. 0 in 2013.
1, 3*, 5, 8, 9, 12, 14, 16*, 17, 19*, 20, 21
DUSTIN MARTIN Richmond $101
H 23 L 12 CP 13. TC 1
Previous best: 2013: 16 votes
2, 4, 6, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18*
KIEREN JACK Sydney $151
HP: 20 LP: 11 CP: 9. TC: 1
Previous best: 19 in 2013; 15 in 2012.
5, 7, 9, 13, 14, 15*, 17, 20, 21
THE MIDFIELDER'S MEDAL: Odds for the last ten years
2004 – Chris Judd $5
2005 – Ben Cousins $2.10 (FAV)
2006 – Adam Goodes $2.70 (FAV)
2007 – Jimmy Bartel $10
2008 – Adam Cooney $13
2009 – Gary Ablett $3 (FAV)
2010 - Chris Judd $7
2011 - Dane Swan $15
2012 – Jobe Watson $5
2013 – Gary Ablett $1.80 (FAV)
Shane Crawford was $1.50 in 1999 shortest priced winner ever
Paul Kelly in 1993 was over 20-1.
MOST BROWNLOW VOTES WITHOUT ABLETT MARKET IN JULY
Scott Pendlebury (Coll) – $3.25
Nathan Fyfe (Fre) – $3.50
Josh Kennedy (Syd) – $4.50
Joel Selwood (Gee) – $10
Brent Harvey (Nth) – $14
Travis Boak (Port) – $14
Dustin Martin (Rich) – $16
Scott Thompson (Ade) – $16
Trent Cotchin (Rich) – $16
Tom Rockliff (Bris) – $16
Matthew Priddis (WC) – $21
Lance Franklin (Syd) – $21
Dayne Beams (Coll) – $21
- Sportingbet
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/brownlow-medal/brownlow-medal-bolters-20140821-1065en.html
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The Brownlow predictor on the AFL website is tipping the leading Tiger (Cotchin) to only get 13 votes.
Cotchin 13 ....... (3 votes - r2, r5, r15; 2 votes - r21; 1 vote - r1, r16)
Deledio 12 ....... (3 votes - r18, r19, r21; 1 vote - r10, r15, r22)
Riewoldt 8 ........ (3 votes - r10, r22; 2 votes - r5)
Rance 7 ........ (3 votes - r16; 2 votes - r17; 1 vote - r7, r19)
Miles 7 ....... (3 votes - r17; 2 votes - r20, r22)
Martin 7 ....... (2 votes - r10, r14, r18; 1 vote - r12)
Ellis 6 ....... (2 votes - r15, r19; 1 vote - r2, r20)
Vickery 2 ....... (2 votes - r16)
http://www.afl.com.au/brownlow-medal/predictor
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Chimps 2nd Charlie
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The updated Brownlow predictor on the AFL website is tipping Lids to be the Tiger with the most votes.
Deledio 15 ....... (3 votes - r18, r19, r21, r23; 1 vote - r10, r15, r22)
Cotchin 13 ....... (3 votes - r2, r5, r15; 2 votes - r21; 1 vote - r1, r16)
Rance 9 ........ (3 votes - r16; 2 votes - r17; 2 votes - r23; 1 vote - r7, r19)
Riewoldt 8 ........ (3 votes - r10, r22; 2 votes - r5)
Miles 7 ....... (3 votes - r17; 2 votes - r20, r22)
Martin 7 ....... (2 votes - r10, r14, r18; 1 vote - r12)
Ellis 6 ....... (2 votes - r15, r19; 1 vote - r2, r20)
Vickery 2 ....... (2 votes - r16)
Maric 1 ....... (1 vote - r23)
ps. They have Selwood winning it with 23 votes.
http://www.afl.com.au/brownlow-medal/predictor
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Can see lids winning it after not making aa side
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ps. They have Selwood winning it with 23 votes.
http://www.afl.com.au/brownlow-medal/predictor
Will have no issue ducking to receive the medal.
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Richmond
Best chance: Trent Cotchin The skipper is the Tigers' best chance because vice-captain Brett Deledio is ineligible. Cotchin polled 19 votes last season and 26 in 2012. He won't reach those heights, however, and could finish on 13 votes.
Fast starter: Trent Cotchin collected 38 possessions in round one and backed that up with a best-on-ground performance the next week. The wins soon dried up for Richmond and so would the votes for the star midfielder.
One-vote wonder: David Astbury The tall defender's season was ended by injury after round nine, but not before he established himself as one of the Tigers' most improved players. Among the Tigers' best in the round two win over Carlton, a vote would please all at Tigerland.
Total votes: A miserable first half of the season won't net many votes, but the Tigers came home with a wet sail and will earn plenty after round 14 for a predicted total of 68. – Nathan Schmook
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-17/the-chase-for-chas
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Surely this year Dusty would be the favourite to poll the most for RFC?
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when is this celebration of buffoon's happening?
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when is this celebration of buffoon's happening?
Next Monday 22nd Sept
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The Tiger boys and partners on the Brownlow red carpet ...
Brandon Ellis of the Tigers and his partner Sarah Bell.
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2014/09/22/349908.jpg)
Alex Rance of the Tigers and partner Georgia Rance.
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2014/09/22/349912.jpg)
Shane Edwards of the Tigers and his partner Samantha Erichsdotter
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2014/09/22/349914.jpg)
Photos source: David Callow/AFL Media.
http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202014%20Media%20-%20Brownlow%20Medal%20Red%20Carpet%20Arrivals&image_id=349879
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Cotch and Milesy have teamed up for tonight's Brownlow with Brooke (9 months pregnant) unable to go.
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Round 1 vs Gold Coast
1. Cotchin
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Round 1 vs Gold Coast
1. Cotchin
Only two votes off the leader.
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R2 vs Carl
3. Cotchin
2. Martin
Total:
Cotchin 4
Martin 2
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Round 1 vs Gold Coast
1. Cotchin
Only two votes off the leader.
Only one now (behind Barlow).
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R3 vs Dogs :banghead
1. Riewoldt
Total:
Cotchin 4
Martin 2
Riewoldt 1
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Leaderboard after Round 3
Ablett 6
Selwood 6
Mumford 6
Barlow 5
Cotchin 4
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Round 4 vs Pies :P
1. Martin
Total:
Cotchin 4
Martin 3
Riewoldt 1
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Selwood on 8 already. At this stage it looks like his Brownlow to lose.
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Round 5 vs Brisbane
3. Cotchin
2. Martin
Total:
Cotchin 7
Martin 5
Riewoldt 1
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Our crap first half of the year will cost Cotch.
Round 6 vs Haw :P ...... Zip.
Leaderboard after Round 6
Ablett 12
Selwood 8
Boak 8
Dangerfield 8
Johnson 8*
Cotchin 7
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Round 7 vs Geelong
2. Conca
Total:
Cotchin 7
Martin 5
Conca 2
Riewoldt 1
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Going to be hollow if it is anyone bar Ablett.
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Would like an underdog to win. Eff ablett and duck wood
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Round 8 - Bye
Leaderboard after round 8
Ablett 14
Dangerfield 11
S.Johnson 11*
Hannebery 10
Boak 9
Selwood 8
Kennedy (Syd) 8
N.Riewoldt 8
Cotchin 7
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Cochin 2 bogs off striking
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Richo :bow
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Cotch people. COTCH >:(
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Round 9 vs Melbourne :banghead
2. Martin
Total:
Cotchin 7
Martin 7
Conca 2
Riewoldt 1
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No stopping riewoldt that game
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Round 10 vs GWS
3. Riewoldt
2. Martin
1. Deledio
Total:
Martin 9
Cotchin 7
Riewoldt 4
Conca 2
Deledio 1
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Are we off Cotch and now on the Dusty bandwagon? ;D
Leaderboard after Round 10
Ablett 17
Dangerfield 14
Boak 12
Kennedy (Syd) 11
S.Johnson 11
Selwood 10
Hannebery 10
Priddis 10
D.Martin 9
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Round 11 vs Essendon :banghead ...... Zip.
Round 12 vs North :banghead
1. Martin
Total:
Martin 10
Cotchin 7
Riewoldt 4
Conca 2
Deledio 1
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I think that makes it 6 matches Dusty has polled in for his 10 votes.
Leaderboard after Round 12
Ablett 18
Dangerfield 14
Kennedy (Syd) 14
Boak 12
B.Harvey 12*
Beams 11
Priddis 11
S.Johnson 11*
D.Martin 10
Selwood 10
Hannebery 10
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The run is on now, aren't we up to our 9 game roll ;D
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The run is on now, aren't we up to our 9 game roll ;D
One loss to go :P ;D.
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Round 13 vs Freo ......... Zip.
Round 14 vs Sydney
2. Cotchin
1. Martin
Total:
Martin 11
Cotchin 9
Riewoldt 4
Conca 2
Deledio 1
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We're now up to the start of our 9 game winning streak :thumbsup.
Round 15 vs St Kilda
3. Cotchin
2. Ellis
1. Rance
Total:
Cotchin 12
Martin 11
Riewoldt 4
Conca 2
Ellis 2
Deledio 1
Rance 1
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Leaderboard after round 15
Ablett 22 ..... and that's it for Gary Jnr.
Kennedy 17
Dangerfield 15
Franklin 15
Ward 15
B.Harvey 15*
Boak 14
Priddis 14
Fyfe 14*
Cotchin 12
Selwood 12
Pendlebury 12
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Leaderboard after round 16
Ablett 22 ..... and that's it for Gary Jnr.
Kennedy 17
Dangerfield 15
Franklin 15
Ward 15
B.Harvey 15*
Boak 14
Priddis 14
Fyfe 14*
Cotchin 12
Selwood 12
Pendlebury 12
Cotch finishes the year off pretty well. Is he still a chance? Not many of our boys taking votes off him. And we win every game!!
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Round 16 vs Brisbane
3. Ellis
1. Vickery
Total:
Cotchin 12
Martin 11
Ellis 5
Riewoldt 4
Conca 2
Deledio 1
Rance 1
Vickery 1
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Clutch finishes the year off pretty well. Is he still a chance? Not many of our boys taking votes off him. And we win every game!!
Kennedy misses the last 3 rounds so he needs to pick up votes now.
Port are in their slump period so Boak shouldn't poll many except against us where he got something like 30+ possies.
Adelaide and GWS don't win too many games from here which will hurt Dangerfield and Ward.
Buddy though may pick up quite a few.
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Round 17 vs Port
3. Boak
2. Miles
1. Cotchin
Total:
Cotchin 13
Martin 11
Ellis 5
Riewoldt 4
Miles 2
Conca 2
Deledio 1
Rance 1
Vickery 1
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Jeebs....
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Leaderboard after Round 17
Ablett 22
Kennedy 20
Fyfe 20*
Dangerfield 18
Boak 17
Franklin 17
Priddis 17
Selwood 15
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Cotchin 13
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Round 18 vs WCE (the Ty Eky Thump game)
2. Martin
1. Deledio
We won easy in the end ::)
Total:
Cotchin 13
Martin 13
Ellis 5
Riewoldt 4
Miles 2
Conca 2
Deledio 2
Rance 1
Vickery 1
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Round 19 vs GWS
3. Ellis
2. Deledio
1. Cotchin
Total:
Cotchin 14
Martin 13
Ellis 8
Deledio 4
Riewoldt 4
Miles 2
Conca 2
Rance 1
Vickery 1
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Leaderboard after Round 19
Fyfe 23*
Ablett 22
Dangerfield 21
Priddis 21
Kennedy 20
S.Johnson 19*
Selwood 18
Boak 17
Franklin 17
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Cotchin 14
Martin 13
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Priddis could win this. :lol
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Priddis could win this. :lol
Worst brownlow winner since Shane woewoeful
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Round 20 vs Essendrug ;D
2. Cotchin
1. Miles
Total:
Cotchin 16
Martin 13
Ellis 8
Deledio 4
Riewoldt 4
Miles 3
Conca 2
Rance 1
Vickery 1
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Jees its been handy having Stevic umpiring all those games ::)
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Priddis or dangerfield if either win this. :banghead
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Leaderboard after Round 20
Fyfe 25*
Priddis 24
Ablett 22
Dangerfield 21
Kennedy 21
Selwood 19
Boak 19
S.Johnson 19*
Franklin 17
Cotchin 16
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We won the last 3 games read out yet an opposition player took the 3 votes. Either we need better A graders or the umps are nuts.
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Selwood will probably win this.
Eagles and Crows choke from here.
Kennedy misses the last 3 games.
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Priddis is their only good mid, from that angle its not surprising.
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Round 21 vs Adelaide
3. Deledio
2. Cotchin
1. Ellis
Total:
Cotchin 18
Martin 13
Ellis 9
Deledio 7
Riewoldt 4
Miles 3
Conca 2
Rance 1
Vickery 1
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Round 22 vs St Kilda
3. Riewoldt
2. Deledio
1. Miles
Total:
Cotchin 18
Martin 13
Ellis 9
Deledio 9
Riewoldt 7
Miles 4
Conca 2
Rance 1
Vickery 1
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Leaderboard after round 22 (one to go)
Fyfe 25*
Priddis 24
Franklin 22
Ablett 22
Boak 21
Dangerfield 21
Kennedy 21
Selwood 19
Johnson 19*
Cotchin 18
So Priddis can't lose. He'll at least tie.
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The voting really sums up our second tier players.. Speaks volumes IMO.
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Round 23 vs Sydney
3. Deledio
2. Rance
Total:
Cotchin 18
Martin 13
Deledio 12
Ellis 9
Riewoldt 7
Miles 4
Rance 3
Conca 2
Vickery 1
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Priddis wins it outright.
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Well done. Thank god Fyfe didnt poll and Priddis won it outright. I couldnt have born he Freo crap ifa coulda shoulda woulda bollocks if Fyfe had polled
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Worst winner since Woewoeful.
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another rookie too. Wake up RFC find a bloody rookie
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Worst winner since Woewoeful.
That's harsh, good player.
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The voting really sums up our second tier players.. Speaks volumes IMO.
Says a bit why Adelaide sacked their coach I reckon. 2 players poll 20+, small forward polls ok. Yet they dont make the finals. Some players cant have been playing for him,
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Cue miles , 7 votes in first 10 games :ROTFL
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Round 18 vs WCE (the Ty Eky Thump game)
2. Martin
1. Deledio
We won easy in the end ::)
Total:
Cotchin 13
Martin 13
Ellis 5
Riewoldt 4
Miles 2
Conca 2
Deledio 2
Rance 1
Vickery 1
who got 3 in this game?
cant believe an eagles player would get 3
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Cotch finished 8th in terms of those eligible (10th in overall votes).
Dusty was equal 16th.
Final Leaderboard
Priddis 26
Fyfe 25*
Franklin 22
Ablett 22
Boak 21
Dangerfield 21
Kennedy 21
Selwood 21
Johnson 19*
Cotchin 18
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Round 18 vs WCE (the Ty Eky Thump game)
2. Martin
1. Deledio
We won easy in the end ::)
who got 3 in this game?
cant believe an eagles player would get 3
Priddis got the 3 votes.
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Round 23 vs Sydney
3. Deledio
2. Rance
Total:
Cotchin 18
Martin 13
Deledio 12
Ellis 9
Riewoldt 7
Miles 4
Rance 3
Conca 2
Vickery 1
Why dont defenders get votes. Rance is key to us yet he gets 3 votes
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Round 18 vs WCE (the Ty Eky Thump game)
2. Martin
1. Deledio
We won easy in the end ::)
who got 3 in this game?
cant believe an eagles player would get 3
Priddis got the 3 votes.
Had 18 tackles for the game. WTF!!
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a bloke who cant kick wins the brownlow. its a joke this award now, it seriously is a joke.
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We finished ninth :P in total votes per club with 69 votes.
Total Club votes
Sydney 96
Hawthorn 91
Fremantle 86
Geelong 85
Port Adel. 85
North Melb. 74
West Coast 73
Adelaide 71
Richmond 69
Essendon 68
Collingwood 60
Carlton 59
Gold Coast 57
W.Bulldogs 50
GWS Giants 46
Brisbane 42
Melbourne 42
St Kilda 34
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Round 18 vs WCE (the Ty Eky Thump game)
2. Martin
1. Deledio
We won easy in the end ::)
who got 3 in this game?
cant believe an eagles player would get 3
Priddis got the 3 votes.
Had 18 tackles for the game. WTF!!
That was the game over there in torrential rain. Tackle count was up there with the most in a game in history - 99 to us and 126 to the Eagles.
We won though 8.11-59 to WC 6.6-42 and in terms of general play we should have won by more.
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Snip :banghead :banghead
keep the unsubstantiated rumours even those in jest off the forum
Don't know how many times people (usually the same people BTW) have to be told >:(
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http://m.smh.com.au/national/police-quizzed-star-on-his-payments-20130220-2erv4.html
http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl/shane-woewodin-tries-to-clear-his-name-after-being-embroiled-in-the-afl-drugs-scandal/story-stuff-1226574522274
http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/mr-muscle-man-shane-charters-supplementary-benefits/story-fni0fit3-1226664122809
http://m.theaustralian.com.au/news/essendon-coach-james-hird-linked-to-convicted-drug-trafficker-shane-charter/story-e6frg6n6-1226572461168?nk=ba765415e15a2512062ab62c350698f2
Expensive diet advice
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a bloke who cant kick wins the brownlow. its a joke this award now, it seriously is a joke.
x 2
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The fix was in. They didn't want Fyfe to win.
Rounds 17-20 Richmond wins 4 games in a row against Port , West Coast , GWS and Essendon. All very good wins. We were the much better team and drew away to win fairly comfortably in all of them.
The ONLY game that we were awarded the 3 votes was against GWS. The other three games the 3 votes went to Boak , Priddis and Heppel ( who just happened to be three of the more fancied chances at their respective clubs )
No ****ing way those players were BOG against us in those games.
RIGGED !!
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The fix was in. They didn't want Fyfe to win.
Rounds 17-20 Richmond wins 4 games in a row against Port , West Coast , GWS and Essendon. All very good wins. We were the much better team and drew away to win fairly comfortably in all of them.
The ONLY game that we were awarded the 3 votes was against GWS. The other three games the 3 votes went to Boak , Priddis and Heppel ( who just happened to be three of the more fancied chances at their respective clubs )
No ****ing way those players were BOG against us in those games.
RIGGED !!
Bad PR
INNIT
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The fix was in. They didn't want Fyfe to win.
Rounds 17-20 Richmond wins 4 games in a row against Port , West Coast , GWS and Essendon. All very good wins. We were the much better team and drew away to win fairly comfortably in all of them.
The ONLY game that we were awarded the 3 votes was against GWS. The other three games the 3 votes went to Boak , Priddis and Heppel ( who just happened to be three of the more fancied chances at their respective clubs )
No ****ing way those players were BOG against us in those games.
RIGGED !!
Now there's a conspiracy theory I can believe!! ;D
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How very picky and Choosey of you
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The fix was in. They didn't want Fyfe to win.
Rounds 17-20 Richmond wins 4 games in a row against Port , West Coast , GWS and Essendon. All very good wins. We were the much better team and drew away to win fairly comfortably in all of them.
The ONLY game that we were awarded the 3 votes was against GWS. The other three games the 3 votes went to Boak , Priddis and Heppel ( who just happened to be three of the more fancied chances at their respective clubs )
No ****ing way those players were BOG against us in those games.
RIGGED !!
Now there's a conspiracy theory I can believe!! ;D
I could kinda give Boak the 3 points because he did try to haul them over the line. But Priddis getting 3 when Deledio and Martin absolutely killed it is a joke. I thought Cotch or Martin was deserving of the 3 points against the bombers.
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Round 23 vs Sydney
3. Deledio
2. Rance
Total:
Cotchin 18
Martin 13
Deledio 12
Ellis 9
Riewoldt 7
Miles 4
Rance 3
Conca 2
Vickery 1
Why dont defenders get votes. Rance is key to us yet he gets 3 votes
+1 on this. Considering JR went on record to say Rance in defence was the best game he's seen a footballer play I'm lost for words as to why Rance didn't get 3
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The fix was in. They didn't want Fyfe to win.
Rounds 17-20 Richmond wins 4 games in a row against Port , West Coast , GWS and Essendon. All very good wins. We were the much better team and drew away to win fairly comfortably in all of them.
The ONLY game that we were awarded the 3 votes was against GWS. The other three games the 3 votes went to Boak , Priddis and Heppel ( who just happened to be three of the more fancied chances at their respective clubs )
No ****ing way those players were BOG against us in those games.
RIGGED !!
Now there's a conspiracy theory I can believe!! ;D
I could kinda give Boak the 3 points because he did try to haul them over the line. But Priddis getting 3 when Deledio and Martin absolutely killed it is a joke. I thought Cotch or Martin was deserving of the 3 points against the bombers.
Priddis got 3 in the Richmond game?
Lol
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he had 18 tackles that game and without him we would've won by 10 goals easily. Can see why he got the 3.
Priddis was a worthy winner, has been a consistently elite inside mid for several years now - extremely underrated. Maybe if we put some girly blonde locks on him he'll be a gun? Bc he's the same type of player as heppell only much better at the role - yet one is talked up as a worthy AA and brownlow chance, whilst the other is overrated.
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he had 18 tackles that game and without him we would've won by 10 goals easily. Can see why he got the 3.
Priddis was a worthy winner, has been a consistently elite inside mid for several years now - extremely underrated. Maybe if we put some girly blonde locks on him he'll be a gun? Bc he's the same type of player as heppell only much better at the role - yet one is talked up as a worthy AA and brownlow chance, whilst the other is overrated.
And in such a low scoring game he didn't kick any goals. Martin kicked 2. Deledio was cruising along the wet ground like a duck on water and if Champion Data made the metres gained stat I'm willing to bet Deledio's 26 posessions or Martin's 25 had more effect in the general scheme of the game. He played well yes, but I don't think the 3 votes was justified.
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He played well yes, but I don't think the 3 votes was justified.
Clearly not justified. We totally outplayed them. We had the best players on the ground. Same against Essendon , same against Port.
Let's have a look at the rest of the season. How many games did we poll the 3 votes in when we were well beaten ?? I'm guessing none....and rightly so.
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he had 18 tackles that game and without him we would've won by 10 goals easily. Can see why he got the 3.
Priddis was a worthy winner, has been a consistently elite inside mid for several years now - extremely underrated. Maybe if we put some girly blonde locks on him he'll be a gun? Bc he's the same type of player as heppell only much better at the role - yet one is talked up as a worthy AA and brownlow chance, whilst the other is overrated.
And in such a low scoring game he didn't kick any goals. Martin kicked 2. Deledio was cruising along the wet ground like a duck on water and if Champion Data made the metres gained stat I'm willing to bet Deledio's 26 posessions or Martin's 25 had more effect in the general scheme of the game. He played well yes, but I don't think the 3 votes was justified.
Yep Im not saying he definitely deserved the 3, I agree with you that Lids was BOG, but I can see how he was given the 3 votes, not a massive blunder imo
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Worse than the time GregwWilliamsgot 84 ttouches and WS not given a vote
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Worse than the time GregwWilliamsgot 84 ttouches and WS not given a vote
that WAS the worst decision of all time 45 touches not 1 vote
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Round 12 Collingwood v Melbourne
Coll 8.13.61 def Melb 3.10.28
Yes that's 3 goals for entire game for Melbourne in a 33 point belting.
Bernie Vince 25 possessions and gets 3 votes.
WTF ??
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Heppel v Priddis comparison is not apt. Priddis is superb in the clinches but slow and unskilled on the outside, to the extent that until mid way through this year at least, he polarized west coast fans. Heppel is nowhere near as rugged in close but is a far more polished user. Pretty different players.
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Heppel v Priddis comparison is not apt. Priddis is superb in the clinches but slow and unskilled on the outside, to the extent that until mid way through this year at least, he polarized west coast fans. Heppel is nowhere near as rugged in close but is a far more polished user. Pretty different players.
Not at all willy, I beg to differ - Heppell cannot kick more than 40-45 and his kicks lack penetration, he just disguises it well by always going the short easy option. He does NOT break lines with run(he is slow) or his kicking and this season he has established himself as a very good inside mid who finds the ball so the comparison vs other inside mids that are ball magnets like Priddis is justified imv. Don't fall for the hype - have you seen him striding out at speed and putting it lace out? he chip. chip chips and accumulates and tbh I get really frustrated when I hear so called experts taking about his exquisite skills.
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Loved the last seconds
If the final
Still possible to win
Drug cheats win the ball. Long to heppell by him self in the middle
Season on line
Choke choke choke
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Heppel v Priddis comparison is not apt. Priddis is superb in the clinches but slow and unskilled on the outside, to the extent that until mid way through this year at least, he polarized west coast fans. Heppel is nowhere near as rugged in close but is a far more polished user. Pretty different players.
Not at all willy, I beg to differ - Heppell cannot kick more than 40-45 and his kicks lack penetration, he just disguises it well by always going the short easy option. He does NOT break lines with run(he is slow) or his kicking and this season he has established himself as a very good inside mid who finds the ball so the comparison vs other inside mids that are ball magnets like Priddis is justified imv. Don't fall for the hype - have you seen him striding out at speed and putting it lace out? he chip. chip chips and accumulates and tbh I get really frustrated when I hear so called experts taking about his exquisite skills.
Interesting points but I still think heppel has good skills and is used a lot more on the outside than Prid. Maybe he lacks a raking boot but certainly he hits a high percentage of his short and mid ranged targets. You can still be a good user without a massive leg. In the same way that Sam Mitchel can't kick more than 30 meters but he is an elite short kick and rarely wastes it. H
Put it this way, on the inside/outside scale I reckon Proddis is on the far left whereas Hep is somewhere in the middle. Hep gets fed the ball a lot by his teammates because the team rates his ball use. Prid wins all of his own ball. Both good players in their own right but I don't think you'd be comparing them in the first place if they didn't share the long blond hair thing.
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Heppel v Priddis comparison is not apt. Priddis is superb in the clinches but slow and unskilled on the outside, to the extent that until mid way through this year at least, he polarized west coast fans. Heppel is nowhere near as rugged in close but is a far more polished user. Pretty different players.
Not at all willy, I beg to differ - Heppell cannot kick more than 40-45 and his kicks lack penetration, he just disguises it well by always going the short easy option. He does NOT break lines with run(he is slow) or his kicking and this season he has established himself as a very good inside mid who finds the ball so the comparison vs other inside mids that are ball magnets like Priddis is justified imv. Don't fall for the hype - have you seen him striding out at speed and putting it lace out? he chip. chip chips and accumulates and tbh I get really frustrated when I hear so called experts taking about his exquisite skills.
Interesting points but I still think heppel has good skills and is used a lot more on the outside than Prid. Maybe he lacks a raking boot but certainly he hits a high percentage of his short and mid ranged targets. You can still be a good user without a massive leg. In the same way that Sam Mitchel can't kick more than 30 meters but he is an elite short kick and rarely wastes it. H
Put it this way, on the inside/outside scale I reckon Proddis is on the far left whereas Hep is somewhere in the middle. Hep gets fed the ball a lot by his teammates because the team rates his ball use. Prid wins all of his own ball. Both good players in their own right but I don't think you'd be comparing them in the first place if they didn't share the long blond hair thing.
heh nah got nothing to do with them sharing the long locks - when Watson went down Heppell played a lot more inside this season - he actually surprised me with how well he did, last season he got fed the ball more and was more in/out, this season he was a lot more inside. Mitchells short kicks are penetrating and laser like, and can still cut through - heppells are just sideways or short and do no damage, bc he doesn't have the capacity to hit bullet like daisy cutters like Mitchell. That's why he rarely wastes it. I call it padding stats.
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Heppel v Priddis comparison is not apt. Priddis is superb in the clinches but slow and unskilled on the outside, to the extent that until mid way through this year at least, he polarized west coast fans. Heppel is nowhere near as rugged in close but is a far more polished user. Pretty different players.
Not at all willy, I beg to differ - Heppell cannot kick more than 40-45 and his kicks lack penetration, he just disguises it well by always going the short easy option. He does NOT break lines with run(he is slow) or his kicking and this season he has established himself as a very good inside mid who finds the ball so the comparison vs other inside mids that are ball magnets like Priddis is justified imv. Don't fall for the hype - have you seen him striding out at speed and putting it lace out? he chip. chip chips and accumulates and tbh I get really frustrated when I hear so called experts taking about his exquisite skills.
Interesting points but I still think heppel has good skills and is used a lot more on the outside than Prid. Maybe he lacks a raking boot but certainly he hits a high percentage of his short and mid ranged targets. You can still be a good user without a massive leg. In the same way that Sam Mitchel can't kick more than 30 meters but he is an elite short kick and rarely wastes it. H
Put it this way, on the inside/outside scale I reckon Proddis is on the far left whereas Hep is somewhere in the middle. Hep gets fed the ball a lot by his teammates because the team rates his ball use. Prid wins all of his own ball. Both good players in their own right but I don't think you'd be comparing them in the first place if they didn't share the long blond hair thing.
Mitchells short kicks are penetrating and laser like, and can still cut through - heppells are just sideways or short and do no damage, bc he doesn't have the capacity to hit bullet like daisy cutters like Mitchell. That's why he rarely wastes it. I call it padding stats.
Damn right on Mitchell. The accuracy, precision, and pretty much everything about his short/medium kicking is nothing short of amazing. Mitchell's ability to thread the needle is nothing short of mind blowing. There is no comparison to Heppell's kicking to Mitchell's
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i love bagging heppel for being a buffalo girl, but tony is correct in that he is winning a lot more contested ball.
also agree that his disposal is overated. he looks good, in that his kicking action looks as though he should be a great kick. people tend to ignore or not notice poor disposal from these types of blokes, yet if someone looks awkward or different in their disposal they notice and remember the poor kicks.
there are a lot of people around that would pick up a turd if you sprinkled glitter it.
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another rookie too. Wake up RFC find a bloody rookie
First rookie
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another rookie too. Wake up RFC find a bloody rookie
First rookie
i should have elaborated. What i meant is another rookie having great years. Not sure where i read but 10-15 rookies playing in Saturdays GF.
That's a quality return from players that originally cost you nothing, yet some on here are getting excited about a top ten pick.
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I thought the Brownlow told a bit of a story about Heppell, 2 BOG's in losing teams, he gets most of his footy cheap on a half back stuff, 15m chip kicks that have a return to sender sticker on it and the overlap handball to under pressure CHB spuds who have no option but to handball it back to him. Heppell will thrive as Essendon begin their slide down the ladder over the next couple of years and may yet get himself a medal for the most cheap kicks on a half back stuff, whatever that award is called.
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With McKenzie winning the Eagles B&F they can even see that Priddis is not the best
Massive devaluation of the Brownlow
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I thought the Brownlow told a bit of a story about Heppell, 2 BOG's in losing teams, he gets most of his footy cheap on a half back stuff, 15m chip kicks that have a return to sender sticker on it and the overlap handball to under pressure CHB spuds who have no option but to handball it back to him. Heppell will thrive as Essendon begin their slide down the ladder over the next couple of years and may yet get himself a medal for the most cheap kicks on a half back stuff, whatever that award is called.
With all due respect, you have NFI. :thumbsup
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I thought the Brownlow told a bit of a story about Heppell, 2 BOG's in losing teams, he gets most of his footy cheap on a half back stuff, 15m chip kicks that have a return to sender sticker on it and the overlap handball to under pressure CHB spuds who have no option but to handball it back to him. Heppell will thrive as Essendon begin their slide down the ladder over the next couple of years and may yet get himself a medal for the most cheap kicks on a half back stuff, whatever that award is called.
give the man a cigar :shh