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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 22, 2014, 12:42:58 PM
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Hardwick adds voice to calls for shorter season
Matt Thompson
afl.com.au
July 22, 2014 11:39 AM
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has joined the call for the season to be shortened but concedes it's unlikely.
His comments follow a similar call from North Melbourne president James Brayshaw for the season to be reduced to 20 rounds.
Hardwick says the current 22-game season is too long.
"I personally think it is, I don't think there's a sport as harsh and as gruelling as ours that asks our players to do an incredible amount of work," he told reporters on Tuesday.
"We can keep having the argument, but the reality is the 22 games are here to stay.
Hardwick acknowledged broadcasters wouldn't be keen on reducing the number of games.
"I don't think they're going to be too keen to give the games back," he said.
"I think the product is a really good product, it's just how long that product goes for is probably the big one.
"Twenty rounds, that's probably a good result."
Having claimed their biggest scalp of the season over Port Adelaide before their week off, the Tigers will be looking to build on a three-game winning streak when they travel to play West Coast.
Reece Conca and Ben Lennon are expected to be available for selection while Shaun Grigg is likely to play in the VFL.
After failing to maintain the momentum from their 2013 campaign, Hardwick insists there's still more to be gained from this season.
"We'll play the year out accordingly. It's no good preparing for next year, when we're still playing for this year as far as we're concerned," he said.
"We've got to continue to get wins on the board, continue to earn respect of our fans back because we've been really disappointing."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-22/hardwick-wants-fewer-games
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how bout everyone plays everyone once and its fair?
what a radical concept
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AFL players are a bunch of softies. NRL players play a brutal Origin game on the Wednesday and back up for their club on the Friday/Saturday/Sunday. European soccer teams do the same for Europe/EPL/FA Cup etc.
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Damien is more than welcome to end his season now if he wants. Bring in an interim coach till we find a real one for next year.
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$ talks
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AFL players are a bunch of softies. NRL players play a brutal Origin game on the Wednesday and back up for their club on the Friday/Saturday/Sunday. European soccer teams do the same for Europe/EPL/FA Cup etc.
Agree, softcox.
Harriet O'bama Badadadada La Bomba reckons they could play 30 games a year, not surprisingly, no-one backed him up. The one time he wasn't being a flog.
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AFL players are a bunch of softies. NRL players play a brutal Origin game on the Wednesday and back up for their club on the Friday/Saturday/Sunday. European soccer teams do the same for Europe/EPL/FA Cup etc.
Which is why i can count the afl players i respect on one hand.
Bright side is, if the season is shorter, so is Dimmers tenure
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Solutions simple - 18 teams playeach other once + 3 set groups of 6 who play each other twice. 17 + 5 = 22. Same draw every year.
V.I.P (Victoria's (most) Important Propping (up the comp.)) Group
Richmond
Collingwood
Essendon
Carlton
Hawthorn
Geelong
Provincial Group
Adelaide
Port
Fremantle
West Coast
Sydney
Brisbane
Leftovers/WGAF /Crowds need not apply Group
GWS
Gold Coast
North
Melbourne
Footscray
St.Kilda
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Don't NBA players play 2-3 times a week for months and play All star games although not at full on intensity.
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We all want to work less hours dimma but most of us have the self respect to avoid whinging in public in front of the people who pay YOUR STUFFING SALARY.
All of this while doing a crap job.
Wish I had this luxury at work.
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Baseball is a 162 game season, ice hockey is 84, American football is only 16.However, comparing sports to each other is like comparing apples with oranges. Each sport has differing levels of intensity. The only reason why I would advocate for a shorter season would be to help fill the stadiums a bit more by creating less supply.
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Play each other once or twice no inbetweens. The competition is compromised in its current state and a big joke tbh.
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Play each other once or twice no inbetweens. The competition is compromised in its current state and a big joke tbh.
I like the idea of once and rotating from home and away each year, like the NFL. 22 round season is great if your team is doing well, but there are way too many dead rubbers past mid season currently.
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I know it was the press that asked the question and he is entitled to a view
But struth to says this "I don't think there's a sport as harsh and as gruelling as ours that asks our players to do an incredible amount of work," is a really naïve and foolish statement to make. As GR12 said "apples & oranges"
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I just like watching footy. Id prefer 44 rounds plus 4 weeks of finals and 4 weeks holiday.
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Play each other once or twice no inbetweens. The competition is compromised in its current state and a big joke tbh.
I like the idea of once and rotating from home and away each year, like the NFL. 22 round season is great if your team is doing well, but there are way too many dead rubbers past mid season currently.
+1
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Play each other once or twice no inbetweens. The competition is compromised in its current state and a big joke tbh.
Agree.
No pre-season comp, no byes, 34 rounds (each plays each other twice - 1 home, 1 away), season starts in mid February, finals run through October. Increase the list size, each player only allowed to play a maximum of 28 games during the home and away season and they must miss a minimum of 4 reserves games as well to ensure they get at least 4 weekends off. It's up to the clubs how they best manage their playing group over the season - who plays against who, and would make team structure selections against different teams more critical each week.
Just an idea.
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I just like watching footy. Id prefer 44 rounds plus 4 weeks of finals and 4 weeks holiday.
Agree - and bring back the mid-week comp. as well.
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Play each other once or twice no inbetweens. The competition is compromised in its current state and a big joke tbh.
Agree.
No pre-season comp, no byes, 34 rounds (each plays each other twice - 1 home, 1 away), season starts in mid February, finals fun through October. Increase the list size, each player only allowed to play a maximum of 28 games during the home and away season and they must miss a minimum of 4 reserves games as well to ensure they get at least 4 weekends off. It's up to the clubs how they best manage their playing group over the season - who plays against who, and would make team structure selections against different teams more critical each week.
Just an idea.
Not a bad blueprint you got there :thumbsup
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Don't NBA players play 2-3 times a week for months and play All star games although not at full on intensity.
NBA is not an accurate comparison. The top players average around 40 minutes per game total. Mid tier players around 15 to 20 mins. It is also a non contact sport.
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It is also a non contact sport.
So similar to the way AFL now is
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Don't NBA players play 2-3 times a week for months and play All star games although not at full on intensity.
NBA is not an accurate comparison. The top players average around 40 minutes per game total. Mid tier players around 15 to 20 mins. It is also a non contact sport.
No sport is going to compare to each other perfectly but the point was they rock up and bust a gut and run full tilt each time and have to find time for training.
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AFL players are a bunch of softies. NRL players play a brutal Origin game on the Wednesday and back up for their club on the Friday/Saturday/Sunday. European soccer teams do the same for Europe/EPL/FA Cup etc.
Agree, softcox.
Harriet O'bama Badadadada La Bomba reckons they could play 30 games a year, not surprisingly, no-one backed him up. The one time he wasn't being a flog.
Once a flog, always a flog. No exceptions.
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It is also a non contact sport.
So similar to the way AFL now is
:lol
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Play each other once or twice no inbetweens. The competition is compromised in its current state and a big joke tbh.
Agree.
No pre-season comp, no byes, 34 rounds (each plays each other twice - 1 home, 1 away), season starts in mid February, finals run through October. Increase the list size, each player only allowed to play a maximum of 28 games during the home and away season and they must miss a minimum of 4 reserves games as well to ensure they get at least 4 weekends off. It's up to the clubs how they best manage their playing group over the season - who plays against who, and would make team structure selections against different teams more critical each week.
Just an idea.
Like the idea but one big issue, ground availability
From Feb to end of March + 3 weeks in October - no MCG, SCG, Gabba, Adelaide Oval. Four main grounds not available
Where do you play the GF? No blockbuster games until they become available.
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Play each other once or twice no inbetweens. The competition is compromised in its current state and a big joke tbh.
Agree.
No pre-season comp, no byes, 34 rounds (each plays each other twice - 1 home, 1 away), season starts in mid February, finals run through October. Increase the list size, each player only allowed to play a maximum of 28 games during the home and away season and they must miss a minimum of 4 reserves games as well to ensure they get at least 4 weekends off. It's up to the clubs how they best manage their playing group over the season - who plays against who, and would make team structure selections against different teams more critical each week.
Just an idea.
Like the idea but one big issue, ground availability
From Feb to end of March + 3 weeks in October - no MCG, SCG, Gabba, Adelaide Oval. Four main grounds not available
Where do you play the GF? No blockbuster games until they become available.
Should never have sold Waverly.
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It's easy WP, ban pyjama cricket and that frees up the grounds for a real sport.
;D
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It's easy WP, ban pyjama cricket and that frees up the grounds for a real sport.
;D
:lol :lol , would be fantastic
But seeing the cricket os the "controling" body of each of the grounds reckon there's more chance of me making by debut for the tigers in 2015 than getting the cricket nuffers to agree to that ;D
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Pretty sure the SACA will be moving the state games away from Adelaide Oval. IIRC was a key part of the negotiations for the redevelopment. They also had to agree to use a drop-in wicket.
MCC are just stubborn twats.
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Play each other once or twice no inbetweens. The competition is compromised in its current state and a big joke tbh.
Agree.
No pre-season comp, no byes, 34 rounds (each plays each other twice - 1 home, 1 away), season starts in mid February, finals run through October. Increase the list size, each player only allowed to play a maximum of 28 games during the home and away season and they must miss a minimum of 4 reserves games as well to ensure they get at least 4 weekends off. It's up to the clubs how they best manage their playing group over the season - who plays against who, and would make team structure selections against different teams more critical each week.
Just an idea.
Like the idea but one big issue, ground availability
From Feb to end of March + 3 weeks in October - no MCG, SCG, Gabba, Adelaide Oval. Four main grounds not available
Where do you play the GF? No blockbuster games until they become available.
There is only on solution to cricket problem, Money !!! They will play in front of the 2000 they get to state games anywhere if you give them enough cash. Most of the big drawing stuff is in between end of October and end of Jan. They dont need the big grounds outside of these times. They could make this work if there was enough money in it.
The other option I have thought of is two divisions (east/west) of 9 teams that get to play home and away (16 games) and then 1 game against each of the non division side each year (alternate home and away each year) for another 9 games. Total 25 Games
Breakdown could be (example only)
West : Frem, WCE, Adel, Port, WB, Geel. Ess NM, Carl
East : Bris, GC, Syd, GWS, Rich, Haw, Stk, Coll, Melb
Advantages of this
1) Consistent draw each year.
2) Travelling will be about the same for teams.
3) Allows for "Derby" games and for the building of division rivalry.
Its just another option and there are really no answers that will please everybody.
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Pretty sure the SACA will be moving the state games away from Adelaide Oval. IIRC was a key part of the negotiations for the redevelopment. They also had to agree to use a drop-in wicket.
MCC are just stubborn twats.
Make that rich stubborn twats.