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Title: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: one-eyed on July 26, 2014, 05:29:10 PM
Richmond's AFL training was poor: Maric
Greg Buckle
WWOS.ninemsn.com.au
15:31 AEST Sat Jul 26 2014


Richmond were prepared to accept a below-par training standard earlier this AFL season but the Tigers are back on track, ruckman Ivan Maric says.

Maric said the club's leadership group and coach Damien Hardwick had resolved to focus on driving the standards around the club.

"We had to take a good hard look in the mirror and identify those things," Maric said on Saturday.

But, for the Tigers, it's probably going to be too little, too late.

Richmond's fourth consecutive win on Friday night against West Coast in Perth has lifted Hardwick's side to a 7-10 record with five rounds remaining.

Maric said the club's 3-10 start to the season, after finishing in the top eight in 2013, had left him "really upset".

"But I feel like it has been good for us to go through that," Maric told radio 3AW.

"Our training standards and the standards around the footy club were so poor. The attention to detail for the little things were not up to the standards we set the season before.

"Our training standards in the last nine weeks have been improving every week and that's the reason why I think we've won four in a row.

"It started with the leadership group and 'Dimma' (Hardwick).

"We focused a lot on policing and driving the standards and making sure that everyone was doing it, no matter if you're a captain or a first-round draft pick or whatever.

"We've made sure that everyone is doing the little things correctly, attention to all the details, and it shows in games. We're doing it."

Richmond great Matthew Richardson praised Maric's straight-talking approach.

"It's good to hear players be honest because we always talk about cliches and players wheeling out the same lines," Richardson told 3AW.

"So, to hear Ivan say that eight or nine weeks ago they sat down and thought 'we're not living up to the standards we set; we need to change', I think it's refreshing to hear that."

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8880864
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Lozza on July 26, 2014, 05:40:32 PM
So how can the coaching staff be seen to be doing their job if they allowed this to occur. If I did similar in my job and just sat on my hands I would have lost my job weeks ago. It's an indictment of the RFC and it's reactive rather than proactive culture, needs to change quickly or otherwise it's a miserable time ahead.
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 26, 2014, 06:02:06 PM
Richmond were prepared to accept a below-par training standard earlier this AFL season but the Tigers are back on track, ruckman Ivan Maric says.

yet all we heard about was how hard they trained, at the time.....
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: tony_montana on July 26, 2014, 06:03:19 PM
say what?
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 26, 2014, 06:06:44 PM
It's like Ivan runs the club.
LMAO.
I'd prefer someone with heart doing it, anyway. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: tony_montana on July 26, 2014, 06:11:40 PM
So would I  :thumbsup  Im still trying to work out why we weren't training well earlier this season  :huh3 coming off an elim final thumping against the team that finished 9th, any sane person would assume that would fire you up to train harder and improve? - not this mob, obviously content with making up the numbers..

Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 26, 2014, 06:19:55 PM
So would I  :thumbsup  Im still trying to work out why we weren't training well earlier this season  :huh3 coming off an elim final thumping against the team that finished 9th, any sane person would assume that would fire you up to train harder and improve? - not this mob, obviously content with making up the numbers..

New age thinking in regards to prep and recovery.
A double edged blade.
Take it too far and u breed poofters.
Just train ur idiot out and leave everything on the track, every night.
It's stuffn simple
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: tony_montana on July 26, 2014, 06:24:38 PM
Don't the "sports science" department monitor how many shots on goal a player can practice when its not part of dedicated training? lmao softies
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 26, 2014, 06:29:44 PM
It's Hrvatska time!!
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: bojangles17 on July 26, 2014, 07:23:17 PM
I heard that interview and was amazed at those comments I mean following a finals berth HTF would our training standards slide, they should have gone up a notch. At least pleased to hear leaders taking more responsibility for the bludgers  :clapping
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 26, 2014, 07:46:37 PM
to think we have only 2 or so years left with this bloke at his best and no one else coming through.
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: bojangles17 on July 26, 2014, 08:18:11 PM
 Apart from his cousin  :shh
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 26, 2014, 08:31:24 PM
Great leader is big Ivan  :clapping

That's what missed most when he wasn't on the ground for the first half of the season, his leadership.

So many things point to him being our most important player

to think we have only 2 or so years left with this bloke at his best and no one else coming through.

 :yep  :clapping
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: bojangles17 on July 26, 2014, 09:49:44 PM
Maric and miles into the side and our contested ball count has rocketed ,  :clapping
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Gigantor on July 26, 2014, 10:31:00 PM
All this article does for me is just re enforce what a stupid cultureless club we are,where we let standards slip and nobody notices nor does anything about it until our season is shot...just a truly amazing article.
might I just add that the coaching staff should wear most of the responsibility because they would I assume be the guardians of the football culture at the club
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 26, 2014, 10:38:22 PM
It's like Ivan runs the club.
LMAO.
I'd prefer someone with heart doing it, anyway. :thumbsup

Player-coach
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 26, 2014, 10:45:22 PM
All this article does for me is just re enforce what a stupid cultureless club we are,where we let standards slip and nobody notices nor does anything about it until our season is shot...just a truly amazing article

does it surprise you though mate? the place is run like the blue oyster bar
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Gigantor on July 26, 2014, 10:54:07 PM
Angus I thought that we had changed,but we haven't..theres something in the makeup of this place that drives this but stuffed if I know what it is
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: lamington on July 26, 2014, 11:59:19 PM
I'm not surprised Ivan brings better work ethic into the club. The guy is of Croatian descent ie.communist blood ie. will run until his feet are bleeding.

really need more like him. I hope his cousin brings the same attitude to the club.
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Gigantor on July 27, 2014, 12:00:43 AM
you want more Croatian communists?
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 27, 2014, 12:04:49 AM
Great leader is big Ivan  :clapping

That's what missed most when he wasn't on the ground for the first half of the season, his leadership.

So many things point to him being our most important player

to think we have only 2 or so years left with this bloke at his best and no one else coming through.

 :yep  :clapping

im with u there, ol willy.
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Diocletian on July 27, 2014, 12:27:45 AM
I'm not surprised Ivan brings better work ethic into the club. The guy is of Croatian descent ie.communist blood ie. will run until his feet are bleeding.

really need more like him. I hope his cousin brings the same attitude to the club.

Apart from Tito, Croats generally despised Communism and were among the most enthusiastic of the Nazi collaborators in Europe during the war.

Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 27, 2014, 07:41:10 AM
Angus I thought that we had changed,but we haven't..theres something in the makeup of this place that drives this but stuffed if I know what it is

The place lacks mental toughness but above that it's getting ahead of yourself as we so often do.

The problem is they believed their own poo instead of coming out hurting in round 1 they thought they were going to stroll into finals

The club is stuffed and these wins and this article just prove it more and more

Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Simonator on July 27, 2014, 10:27:20 AM
Im glad to hear that our standards have lifted.. but i recall dimma saying earlier in the year when we were losing that we were training really well, just couldnt perform on game day. lies lies lies
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Rampstar on July 27, 2014, 10:31:37 AM
Only wogs understand standards of excellence. Richmond needs more wogs.  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Gigantor on July 27, 2014, 10:31:58 AM
yep that's the one worrying part..the coaches and managers didnt notice that standards had slipped...its their job to notice
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: lamington on July 27, 2014, 06:33:39 PM
Only wogs understand standards of excellence. Richmond needs more wogs.  ;D

 :thumbsup they did build tje hydro electric dam after all
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: RedanTiger on July 27, 2014, 06:46:01 PM
Angus I thought that we had changed,but we haven't..theres something in the makeup of this place that drives this but stuffed if I know what it is

The place lacks mental toughness but above that it's getting ahead of yourself as we so often do.

The problem is they believed their own poo instead of coming out hurting in round 1 they thought they were going to stroll into finals

The club is stuffed and these wins and this article just prove it more and more

It's what happens when your official policy is to only listen to people "within these four walls" at the club.
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: wayne on July 27, 2014, 08:24:11 PM
Richmond were prepared to accept a below-par training standard earlier this AFL season but the Tigers are back on track, ruckman Ivan Maric says.

yet all we heard about was how hard they trained, at the time.....

Deledio said it was the hardest training they've ever done....  :shh
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: lamington on July 27, 2014, 08:37:17 PM
Richmond were prepared to accept a below-par training standard earlier this AFL season but the Tigers are back on track, ruckman Ivan Maric says.

yet all we heard about was how hard they trained, at the time.....

Deledio said it was the hardest training they've ever done....  :shh

Maybe for him but what has Grigg, Thomas, and to a lesser extent Ellis been doing?
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: tony_montana on July 27, 2014, 09:01:09 PM
Deledio talks a lot of poo - pays lip service to everyone bc they are team mates.  Each week on the rfc website he's talking up someone. Remember his Tambling call - does things in training no one in the afl could do
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: bojangles17 on July 27, 2014, 09:42:59 PM
That sounds about right , fumbling the ball like its a cake of soap when under no pressure , no one else does that :-\
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Diocletian on July 27, 2014, 10:26:07 PM
That sounds about right , fumbling the ball like its a cake of soap when under no pressure , no one else does that :-\

As if you wouldn't have been talking him up as the next big thing when he was still on our list.
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 27, 2014, 10:49:14 PM
Richmond's AFL training was poor: Maric
Greg Buckle
WWOS.ninemsn.com.au
15:31 AEST Sat Jul 26 2014


Richmond were prepared to accept a below-par training standard earlier this AFL season but the Tigers are back on track, ruckman Ivan Maric says.

Maric said the club's leadership group and coach Damien Hardwick had resolved to focus on driving the standards around the club.

"We had to take a good hard look in the mirror and identify those things," Maric said on Saturday.

But, for the Tigers, it's probably going to be too little, too late.

Richmond's fourth consecutive win on Friday night against West Coast in Perth has lifted Hardwick's side to a 7-10 record with five rounds remaining.

Maric said the club's 3-10 start to the season, after finishing in the top eight in 2013, had left him "really upset".

"But I feel like it has been good for us to go through that," Maric told radio 3AW.

"Our training standards and the standards around the footy club were so poor. The attention to detail for the little things were not up to the standards we set the season before.

"Our training standards in the last nine weeks have been improving every week and that's the reason why I think we've won four in a row.


"It started with the leadership group and 'Dimma' (Hardwick).

"We focused a lot on policing and driving the standards and making sure that everyone was doing it, no matter if you're a captain or a first-round draft pick or whatever.

"We've made sure that everyone is doing the little things correctly, attention to all the details, and it shows in games. We're doing it."


Richmond great Matthew Richardson praised Maric's straight-talking approach.

"It's good to hear players be honest because we always talk about cliches and players wheeling out the same lines," Richardson told 3AW.

"So, to hear Ivan say that eight or nine weeks ago they sat down and thought 'we're not living up to the standards we set; we need to change', I think it's refreshing to hear that."

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8880864
:cheers :thumbsup
 :clapping :clapping :clapping

I've been waiting for years to hear this.
Maybe just maybe finally the club is addressing the disease.

Let's hope this is the genesis of the end of Tigeritis™®© once and for all.
I really really hope so.
 :pray
:gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: The Big Richo on July 28, 2014, 12:41:38 AM
How could anyone read that and still think Hardwick is the right coach?
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 28, 2014, 11:08:58 AM
How could anyone read that and still think Hardwick is the right coach?
Good point.  The only redeeming feature of this is that he at least has learnt from his mistakes.....
Some guys don't ever learn.....
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Dice on July 28, 2014, 12:10:49 PM
How could anyone read that and still think Hardwick is the right coach?

Agree TBR. This just confirms what most of us already knew. He's not a coach's bootlace. Unfortunately we're stuck with him for another year coz the heirarchy are too weak to get rid of him. By the time we do , Bomber Thompson will be off the list of good available coaches.
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: The Big Richo on July 28, 2014, 12:59:17 PM
I'm starting to warm to Voss, after watching him in the recruit I reckon he has a hard streak that would be just right.

I always thought he was a little unlucky in Brisbane.
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Chuck17 on July 28, 2014, 02:11:35 PM
I'm starting to warm to Voss, after watching him in the recruit I reckon he has a hard streak that would be just right.

I always thought he was a little unlucky in Brisbane.

He certianly is ruthless at the trade table, unofrtunately that is paired with being poohouse at it as well
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: unplugged on July 28, 2014, 02:19:47 PM
Why isn't the coach lambasting him in the media.  Its ok for Maric but not for Jack to tell the truth. 
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Chuck17 on July 28, 2014, 02:21:59 PM
Why isn't the coach lambasting him in the media.  Its ok for Maric but not for Jack to tell the truth.

You dont mess with the mullet
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: tony_montana on July 28, 2014, 03:59:13 PM
Why isn't the coach lambasting him in the media.  Its ok for Maric but not for Jack to tell the truth.

You dont mess with the mullet

(http://dreamteamtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/maric-mullet.jpg)
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Chuck17 on July 28, 2014, 04:18:27 PM
Why isn't the coach lambasting him in the media.  Its ok for Maric but not for Jack to tell the truth.

You dont mess with the mullet

(http://dreamteamtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/maric-mullet.jpg)

 :lol
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: one-eyed on August 01, 2014, 04:39:19 PM
Barrett in his latest 'Sliding Doors' article:

Richmond

IF ....... it took until this week for big Ivan to admit why Richmond was a slow starter this year - because it was below par in training standards early in the year..

THEN ... you just have to wonder how complacency could have been allowed to be tolerated.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-01/sliding-doors-round-19
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
“You don’t get six wins in-a-row, when you’re sitting equal bottom, if you’re not training well,” Maric said.

“So, we’ve improved them, set new standards every week, and that’s what we’ve got to keep doing.”

Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-11/marics-massive-boost-for-tigers
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Stripes on August 11, 2014, 03:47:09 PM
Ivan's emerged as our strongest leader on and off the field of late. I rate him as our most important player too
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 11, 2014, 03:52:20 PM
No Ivan means No heart or leadership.
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 11, 2014, 03:53:19 PM
Rance>ivan
Title: Re: Richmond's training was poor: Ivan Maric (Ninemsn)
Post by: Andyy on August 11, 2014, 10:15:28 PM
Ivan captain and Rance vice?

Would have no problem with this if the big man was sure to stay on the park. Average players with proper attitudes like Egghead Maxwell have made good captains.