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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Andyy on August 16, 2014, 11:37:06 PM

Title: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Andyy on August 16, 2014, 11:37:06 PM
For me:

Out - Newman, Grigg (if Jackson fit)

In - Conca, Jackson (if fit)
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 16, 2014, 11:39:25 PM
Grigg is awful
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 16, 2014, 11:39:53 PM
Reece straight back in.?
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 16, 2014, 11:41:32 PM
That's the thing.

As bad as newman is, lederly, slow and a liability, he's still a better option than conca
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 16, 2014, 11:45:34 PM
INS: Conca, Dea

OUTS: Newman, Batchelor

If Newman does the right thing by the club and announces his retirement I'd leave him in to give a farewell game at the MCG

Sorry but he was shocking tonight.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 16, 2014, 11:50:52 PM
That's the thing.

As bad as newman is, lederly, slow and a liability, he's still a better option than conca

Nup we got pummelled in th contested ball

Cotchin and miles require Conca support IMO

 
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Andyy on August 16, 2014, 11:51:23 PM
Crashed into a Crow once. Otherwise did nothing. Giving up that goal was terrible. Has lost pace badly. Time to go mate sorry.

And yeah I'd prefer Conca for sure.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: tony_montana on August 16, 2014, 11:53:40 PM
We know Newman will never be dropped, so why bother naming him
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Lozza on August 16, 2014, 11:55:36 PM
For a senior statesman of the team that kick out he took was terrible, almost lost us the game and pretty much handed back the goal denied luckily by the video ump. Blind freddy would know that with less than 3 mins to play in a quarter and rain falling that 50 metres down the boundary is the way to go, surprised Hardwick didn't break another phone handset.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: tony_montana on August 16, 2014, 11:58:41 PM
Should be Newman and Lennon for Dea and Conca but will be 1 change Lennon for Conca
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 17, 2014, 12:00:36 AM
foley has been good
Title: Changes for next week
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on August 17, 2014, 09:57:44 AM
1 change
In Conca
Out Lennon
Conca to be sub
Title: Re: Changes for next week
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 17, 2014, 10:03:45 AM
Newmans stats and qualitative impact were down last night even by his own standards.

Would bring in Conca for him (not that it will happen)
Title: Re: Changes for next week
Post by: TigerMonk on August 17, 2014, 10:12:40 AM
Newmans stats and qualitative impact were down last night even by his own standards.

Would bring in Conca for him (not that it will happen)

funny you say that cause l just wrote about newman in another topic. He should be dropped for playing short in the backline which costs goals or puts unwanted pressure on the hard workers
Title: Re: Changes for next week
Post by: yellowandback on August 17, 2014, 10:51:08 AM
Newman has been poor all season and last night he added poor decision making to his growing list of limitations.
Title: Re: Changes for next week
Post by: TigerMonk on August 17, 2014, 11:00:35 AM
Newman has been poor all season and last night he added poor decision making to his growing list of limitations.

It's something the coach needs to seriously look at is players who make stupid decisions. That one Petterd made going across the goals & then going out of bounds was one of the dumbest things l ever seen. But Newman short game in the backline & also Dusty done it twice renders me to think those 3 should not be in the backline.
l would put the gun on Newman who should know better & Cotchin as captain needs to get up players when they do these things like a Hodge or Mitchell do
Title: Re: Changes for next week
Post by: Yeahright on August 17, 2014, 11:11:16 AM
Merge thread with the other one
Title: Re: Changes for next week
Post by: Dice on August 17, 2014, 11:38:29 AM
I thought Newman was very solid last night. He played well and no way will he be dropped and nor should he be. There were no weak links last night. I'd make Conca come back via the VFL.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 17, 2014, 06:48:37 PM
Bachelor. Chaplin. Morris.
Grimes. Rance. Houli.
Ellis. Miles. SEdwards.
Cotchin. Griffiths. Martin.
Deledio Riewoldt. McBean.
Maric. Vlastuin. Conca m

Gordon. Foley. Lennon.

Petard.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: mightytiges on August 17, 2014, 08:49:25 PM
Jacko only played a half in the ressies. IMO he needs to a full game before being considered for senior selection.

Knowing Dimma, we'll only make one change to bring Conca back into the side and it'll be like-for-like. Meaning a kid like Lennon will make way for him.

In: Conca
Out: Lennon

Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: TigerLand on August 17, 2014, 09:12:36 PM
Need to stop using the sub with our kids. How can u learn from 5 minutes of football a week.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 17, 2014, 09:17:53 PM
Out Newman
In Dea
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: torch on August 17, 2014, 09:22:44 PM
In: Conca

Out: Grigg
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: big tone on August 17, 2014, 09:32:30 PM
Out- Batchelor
In- Dea

Conca comes back through the two for mine.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Smokey on August 17, 2014, 09:36:06 PM
Out Newman
In Dea

I'd be happy with that.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Stripes on August 17, 2014, 09:39:43 PM
Jacko only played a half in the ressies. IMO he needs to a full game before being considered for senior selection.

Knowing Dimma, we'll only make one change to bring Conca back into the side and it'll be like-for-like. Meaning a kid like Lennon will make way for him.

In: Conca
Out: Lennon

 :yep

Would like to  see Newman move aside for Dea. Despite his two goals, I found myself with heart in mouth every time Gordan had the ball in hand too. Lost a lot of one on ones  :-\
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 17, 2014, 10:02:33 PM
Out Newman
In Dea

I'd be happy with that.

I agree with Big Tone also Conca can come back in via the ressies. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: one-eyed on August 18, 2014, 03:25:54 AM
The only major negative for the Tigers was a shoulder injury to defender Dylan Grimes. While there was no official word on the injury from Punt Road, club sources suggested it was considered very minor.

Source: The Age (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/richmond-tigers/trent-cotchins-new-captaincy-style-the-key-to-tigers-turnaround-20140817-10529e.html#ixzz3AffYDJj7)
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: dwaino on August 18, 2014, 07:31:33 AM
The only major negative for the Tigers was a shoulder injury to defender Dylan Grimes. While there was no official word on the injury from Punt Road, club sources suggested it was considered very minor.

Source: The Age (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/richmond-tigers/trent-cotchins-new-captaincy-style-the-key-to-tigers-turnaround-20140817-10529e.html#ixzz3AffYDJj7)

With Batch in Grimes wouldn't be absolutely necessary against Saints but will be against Swans. Should ice him for a week then.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Mr Magic on August 18, 2014, 09:03:06 AM
Dea was ordinary for the Ressies. Won't come in.

Lennon out for Conca is my guess.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Chuck17 on August 18, 2014, 09:43:12 AM
In: Conca

Out: Grigg

Yes

Out- Batchelor
In- Dea


Yes
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: yellowandback on August 18, 2014, 10:41:54 AM
I'm not sure Dea can do the role that Batch has been doing as I'm not sure he is physical enough ?
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Dice on August 18, 2014, 10:46:33 AM
Dea was ordinary for the Ressies. Won't come in.


Richmond Tigers
Goal Kickers: A. Edwards 3, L. McBean 2, S. Lloyd 2, R. Young , S. Hampson , T. Banfield , J. Wall
Best Players: , R. Young , M. Dea , J. Wall , T. Banfield , O. Stephenson , A. Edwards
Player Match Stats
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Chuck17 on August 18, 2014, 10:49:57 AM
I'm not sure Dea can do the role that Batch has been doing as I'm not sure he is physical enough ?

Dea has been widely posted as getting minimal possessions as well?
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: tiga on August 18, 2014, 11:14:40 AM
Grigg has been very ordinary since returning and must be dropped.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Dice on August 18, 2014, 12:18:29 PM
Grigg has been very ordinary since returning and must be dropped.

From the AFL Website


ADELAIDE      2.3   4.10    5.13   9.15 (69)
RICHMOND     5.1   7.5     8.14  10.9     (79)         
 
BEST
Adelaide: Jacobs, Dangerfield, Talia, Crouch, Wright, Douglas
Richmond: Cotchin, Delidio, Ellis, Grigg, Gordon, Rance


Think Grigg was given the job on Brodie Smith and thrashed him.

Not sure why people are bothering with this ? Grigg won't get dropped even if he deserved it ( which he doesn't this week ) and Newman certainly won't be getting dropped. Nor should he be.

NO CHANGE !
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 18, 2014, 12:21:49 PM
Omg...

Who was giving the bests...

Grigg was noticeable the least strong link in the chain
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Phil Mrakov on August 18, 2014, 12:46:37 PM
Out Grigg in Conca
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Andyy on August 18, 2014, 12:51:18 PM
Grigg went to Sloane a fair bit too.

Notably both Smith and Sloane had no impact on the game. But I'm not convinced that was due to Grigg.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Chuck17 on August 18, 2014, 02:46:24 PM
Grigg went to Sloane a fair bit too.

Notably both Smith and Sloane had no impact on the game. But I'm not convinced that was due to Grigg.

No wonder he was in the bests if he covered two palyers and kept them quiet
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Dice on August 18, 2014, 02:58:14 PM
Grigg went to Sloane a fair bit too.

Notably both Smith and Sloane had no impact on the game. But I'm not convinced that was due to Grigg.

Vlaustuin was on Sloane most of the night. Did a pretty good job too I thought.

If there's gonna be a change ( knowing Dimma ) it'll be Lennon out for Conca.

Don't waste your typing fingers calling for Grigg to be dropped. It will not happen so get over it.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: eliminator on August 18, 2014, 04:05:17 PM
Grigg went to Sloane a fair bit too.

Notably both Smith and Sloane had no impact on the game. But I'm not convinced that was due to Grigg.

Vlaustuin was on Sloane most of the night. Did a pretty good job too I thought.

If there's gonna be a change ( knowing Dimma ) it'll be Lennon out for Conca.

 I think you are probably right

Don't waste your typing fingers calling for Grigg to be dropped. It will not happen so get over it.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 18, 2014, 04:25:42 PM

Vlaustuin was on Sloane most of the night. Did a pretty good job too I thought.

If there's gonna be a change ( knowing Dimma ) it'll be Lennon out for Conca.

Don't waste your typing fingers calling for Grigg to be dropped. It will not happen so get over it.

DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!
DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!
DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!
DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!
DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!
DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!
DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Chuck17 on August 18, 2014, 04:44:17 PM

Vlaustuin was on Sloane most of the night. Did a pretty good job too I thought.

If there's gonna be a change ( knowing Dimma ) it'll be Lennon out for Conca.

Don't waste your typing fingers calling for Grigg to be dropped. It will not happen so get over it.

DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!
DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!
DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!
DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!
DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!
DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!
DROP GRIGG, HE'S AS poo AS NEWMAN!

You love the Griggster just admit it
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 18, 2014, 05:52:38 PM
Grigg went to Sloane a fair bit too.

Notably both Smith and Sloane had no impact on the game. But I'm not convinced that was due to Grigg.

No wonder he was in the bests if he covered two palyers and kept them quiet

Every time he went to the bench time he was playing chess by correspondance
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: one-eyed on August 18, 2014, 11:08:44 PM
The Barometer - Round 22
Herald-Sun
August 18, 2014


RICHMOND

ON THE BLOCK: Ben Lennon is the obvious candidate but it’s hard to judge him after he only took the sub vest off with 10min to go. The man he replaced, Jake Batchelor, is on the fringe while Shaun Grigg has just been OK since coming back into the side. Nathan Foley had 21 disposals but might be in danger with some talent coming back.

ON THE CUSP: Reece Conca is available after serving his two-match suspension and Dan Jackson made a comeback from injury in the VFL at the weekend, collecting 14 disposals and spending plenty of time on the bench; he might need another week. Sam Lloyd (22 disposals, two goals) and Matt Dea (27 disposals) were the standouts at the lower level while Liam McBean booted two goals - he could be a chance if the Tigers stack their forward line in the hope of a big percentage boost against St Kilda.

AL PATON’S FORECAST: Another incredible win and another weekend of results in other games falling the Tigers’ way. Special mention to Steven Morris who has copped a few whacks in the Barometer this season but played his best game of the year against Eddie Betts. All the talk is now of a mini elimination final against Sydney in Round 23 but that only happens if Richmond gets over St Kilda - which will surely happen, but they can’t take their eye off the ball - and North Melbourne defeats Adelaide in Hobart. Go Roos.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/breaking-news/the-barometer-check-out-who-is-hot-and-who-is-hurt-ahead-of-the-afls-penultimate-round/story-fnect155-1227028072539
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: torch on August 19, 2014, 12:13:08 AM
In:

Conca, Jackson

Out:

Lennon, Grigg

Was Batchelor that bad? Was Newman that bad? Only the give-away-goal to
Eddie was all i can recall ...

Surely a half fit Jackson would do a better tagging job than Grigg?

Harsh on Lennon, but Conca as that extra midfielder would be handy!

Ricky Petterd, his biggest problem is his disposal! courageous YES, but poor skills!
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: eliminator on August 19, 2014, 06:55:39 AM
Grigg went to Sloane a fair bit too.

Notably both Smith and Sloane had no impact on the game. But I'm not convinced that was due to Grigg.



Grigg started on Sloane.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Phil Mrakov on August 19, 2014, 07:20:59 AM
Lennon will be a spud there I said it
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Chuck17 on August 19, 2014, 09:04:40 AM
Lennon will be a spud there I said it

 :gobdrop How dare you
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Stripes on August 19, 2014, 10:35:18 AM
Lennon will be a spud there I said it

Just a little early to call I would think. Looks like he has all the attributes of a ready made CHF/Midfielder. Very similar to the role Lids is currently playing.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: tiga on August 19, 2014, 11:36:49 AM
Lennon will be a spud there I said it

Sure you said it, anyone can say anything on the internet, doesn't mean it's true.

My dog has three tails and is only days away from developing a new version of string theory! There I said it..
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: tony_montana on August 19, 2014, 11:38:36 AM
Lennon will be a spud there I said it

The only thing Im worried about is his leg speed, looks very slow.. hopefully its just that he hasnt adjusted to the tempo of afl so looks slower than he actually is
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 19, 2014, 11:41:29 AM
People I spoke to who watch his tac club said he's best kick since Buckley
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: RFC_Official on August 19, 2014, 11:53:02 AM
People I spoke to who watch his tac club said he's best kick since Buckley
Kick to set up Martin's final goal was pretty handy off one step.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: taztiger4 on August 19, 2014, 11:56:26 AM
People I spoke to who watch his tac club said he's best kick since Buckley
Kick to set up Martin's final goal was pretty handy off one step.

Yep, sure was
Title: In the Mix: round 22 (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on August 19, 2014, 01:20:20 PM
In the Mix - Round 22
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
August 19, 2014


RICHMOND

Midfielder Reece Conca has served his two-game suspension for striking Giant Devon Smith and should make an immediate return for Sunday's clash against St Kilda. Club champion Dan Jackson will work his way back into the team before the end of the season, but this might not be the week after he was managed in his VFL return. Jackson, who had missed three games with a glute injury, had 14 possessions in the state league. Aaron Edwards pushed his case to earn a call up, spending time at both ends of the ground and kicking three goals. Young forward Liam McBean wasn't as prolific as he has been over the past month, but he still hit the scoreboard with two goals and his form stacks up over a sustained period. Sam Lloyd (two goals and 22 possessions) and Matt Dea (27 possessions) were others to throw their names up.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-19/in-the-mix-round-22
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Stripes on August 19, 2014, 01:30:40 PM
Conca should come straight in for Lennon unless there is an injury we are unaware of. Grigg or Foley as sub.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Chuck17 on August 19, 2014, 02:16:38 PM
People I spoke to who watch his tac club said he's best kick since Buckley
Kick to set up Martin's final goal was pretty handy off one step.

Yep, sure was

2 year contract extension based on that kick

get it done tiges

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 19, 2014, 02:34:28 PM
People I spoke to who watch his tac club said he's best kick since Buckley
Kick to set up Martin's final goal was pretty handy off one step.

Yep, sure was

2 year contract extension based on that kick

get it done tiges

 :gotigers
Wait. Clawsy might want to trade him for a first rounder now that his currency is up!
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 19, 2014, 02:55:29 PM
People I spoke to who watch his tac club said he's best kick since Buckley
Kick to set up Martin's final goal was pretty handy off one step.

The person in question even specified "off one step"