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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 24, 2014, 09:40:51 PM
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It looks like we've got through today injury free and Vickery (back from 4 weeks suspended) and Jackson (full game today in the ressies) will be available for seniors selection. Dusty might be available as well if his hammy was more precautionary due to slight tightness rather than actually injured.
So any changes?
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Gordon will get a week.
I'd play Vickery.
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IN: Martin
OUT: Newman
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What I think will happen..
In: Martin, Vickery
Out: Lennon, Gordon
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What I think will happen..
In: Martin, Vickery
Out: Lennon, Gordon
Yeah that but I would like to see McDonugh given a go for Lennon.
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Don't like 3 talks against the swans, their rebound is dynamite
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I heard at the game today that Jacko was reported in the ressies and that Dusty will not be considered unless we make finals. The latter I hope is not genuine. :help
Couldn't give a stuff about Jako right now TBH.
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I don't see why you wouldn't play Dusty.
Very little long term risk and you either test him to make the finals or test him in the finals.
I'd rather play him and see than not and say what if.
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Dimma's presser gave me the impression that Dust will play
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Pre match function I was at got told Dusty is definite for next week
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Ok getting conflicting stories, as I heard from people at the game and Finey on the trip home that Dusty was not a starter next week given his hammy. No dramas we'll find out soon enough. :thumbsup
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Outs- Pettard (cannot hit a target)
- Gordon (does some good things but cannot hit a target)
- Batchelor (hard at it, but cannot hit a target)
- Lennon. (Not quite ready)
Sydney will destroy us if we turn the footy over.
Ins- Martin
-Lloyd
- Dea
- Helbig (to tag one of there onballer)
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Need our best for any chance next week. Even if that's Dusty at 90% we need him.
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IN: Martin
OUT: Newman
please god person :pray
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From Dimma's post-match media conference ...
Playmaker Dustin Martin is a certain inclusion after missing yesterday’s 26-point win over St Kilda with hamstring soreness.
Hardwick said the club faced a tough call whether to recall Try Vickery after serving a four-match suspension.
Hardwick said Martin could have played at a pinch but made the decision to rest him in preparation for the do-or-die clash against the Swans.
“It’s probably one of those games where you take a little bit of a punt (because) he could have played, but we probably thought we were able to win,” he said.
Former captain Chris Newman, who made a brilliant start to the contest helping the Tigers kick six straight goals to open the game, could be in doubt after coming off with a groin or thigh concern.
Daniel Jackson is also available after a solid VFL performance but Hardwick said the club would also consider restructuring its forward line to fit Vickery.
Hardwick said Vickery had been “training the house down” and might have to be called upon to partner big men Ben Griffiths and Ivan Maric to combat Sydney’s imposing talls.
“We’ve just got to see whether we can fit all three in, because look, they’re a big side Sydney and there’s going to be a lot of up and down the line stuff, so we will address that during the week,” he said.
Asked if there was some reluctance to meddle with a working combination, Hardwick said: “There is a little bit, but you have also got to take some risks at some stage.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-is-looking-forward-to-richmond-taking-on-ladder-leading-swans-in-sydney/story-fndv8t7m-1227035200965
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Ins .Martin and Jackson ( sub )
Outs Gordon and Lennon
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Outs- Pettard (cannot hit a target)
- Gordon (does some good things but cannot hit a target)
- Batchelor (hard at it, but cannot hit a target)
- Lennon. (Not quite ready)
Sydney will destroy us if we turn the footy over.
Ins- Martin
-Lloyd
- Dea
- Helbig (to tag one of there onballer)
Totally agree Sydney will destroy us if our disposal is at all sloppy. Suggest to Hardwick to watch how Collingwood play there-they have a very good record at that ground. Petterd is a real liability far from goal. His disposal and decision making against the saints was average. Should be at risk of being dropped but won't. Martin must come in. Agree Gordon really needs to work on his disposal and decision making. Gordon probably will be suspended for that bump. Would drop Lennon. I think they will roll the decision and bring in Jackson. Suspect they will bring in Thomas as well.
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I think Hardwick made a hint that he might bring in Vickery to match up on the height/size of Tippett, Franklin, Reid, Goodes. I sincerely hope not because Vickers isn't too flash defensively.
I think what will happen is Martin will come in for Lennon or Gordon and that is it. Gordon had a few iffy disposals which resulted in Saints goals last night so I think he's at risk of losing his position. I didn't think it was a bad game overall from Flash considering he's only played 10 games but we all know how Dimma operates.
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In: vickery, martin
Out: gordon, lennon
3 forward talls might stop their third man dropping off to Jack and might force one of their flankers to do it, killing a part of their rebound.
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I can't believe how many big name players COLA fc have
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Outs- Pettard (cannot hit a target)
- Gordon (does some good things but cannot hit a target)
- Batchelor (hard at it, but cannot hit a target)
- Lennon. (Not quite ready)
Sydney will destroy us if we turn the footy over.
Ins- Martin
-Lloyd
- Dea
- Helbig (to tag one of there onballer)
Totally agree Sydney will destroy us if our disposal is at all sloppy. Suggest to Hardwick to watch how Collingwood play there-they have a very good record at that ground. Petterd is a real liability far from goal. His disposal and decision making against the saints was average. Should be at risk of being dropped but won't. Martin must come in. Agree Gordon really needs to work on his disposal and decision making. Gordon probably will be suspended for that bump. Would drop Lennon. I think they will roll the decision and bring in Jackson. Suspect they will bring in Thomas as well.
Also recon we need to isolate our forwards as much as possible. We tend to bunch all our forwards in a line from FF to CHF. Should play Jack or whoever is at FF deep and pockets up on the half forwardline. They are just ok one on one but collectively they work well together. Our forwardline even against the Saints was average. Just nobody there to compete in the air.
Also need to start the game with a 6 man forwardline, don't let them get a loose man in our forwardline. And spread them out.
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Jackson won't play
Just accepted a week VFL tribunal
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Jackson won't play
Just accepted a week VFL tribunal
Yep. Caro also just mentioned it on Footy Classified.
According to Caro, there are only two possible ins - Dusty and Vickery - and Vickery would only come in if Hardwick plays 3 tall forwards.
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Jackson won't play
Just accepted a week VFL tribunal
Yep. Caro also just mentioned it on Footy Classified.
According to Caro, there are only two possible ins - Dusty and Vickery - and Vickery would only come in if Hardwick plays 3 tall forwards.
I'm sure she read my post! ;D
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I dont see why we would not play 3 talls!! Bring in Vickery I say, sub Conca.
Sydney have Buddy, Tippet and their ruckman...
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3 talls will only work if they chase their opponents. Sydneys rebound off their def 50 will kill us if the 3 talls don't apply enough pressure. I reckon it could work well with richards taking reiwoldt and vickery playing deep in the square with griff roaming the middle of the ground, kicking long and deep before they get a chance to rush back and flood our forward line.
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Too bad it isn't at the SCG and we could just rush behinds and get Griff to line up from the kick ins.
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Too bad it isn't at the SCG and we could just rush behinds and get Griff to line up from the kick ins.
It is at the SCG!!
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Too bad it isn't at the SCG and we could just rush behinds and get Griff to line up from the kick ins.
It is at the SCG!!
It's at ANZ stadium, WAT.
Try to keep up please, mate.
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Too bad it isn't at the SCG and we could just rush behinds and get Griff to line up from the kick ins.
It is at the SCG!!
Doh :whistle
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The Baromater - Round 23
Herald-Sun
August 26, 2014
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: Ben Lennon seems a certain omission after starting as the sub for the second week in a row. Nathan Gordon covered plenty of ground but had little impact (apart from one spectacular mark). Chris Newman was subbed off and had ice on his leg on the bench but Damien Hardwick said it was just to get him through the game — back him in to start against the Swans.
ON THE CUSP: Dustin Martin is set to return after Richmond took the conservative approach with the young star experiencing hamstring soreness. Dan Jackson played his second game in the VFL and although he didn’t dominate (16 disposals and a goal), he’ll be very handy against Sydney’s big-bodied midfield. Sam Lloyd (25 disposals, three goals) was the standout as Richmond’s VFL side went down to Footcray in a thriller, and David Astbury got through his first game back from a knee injury. The big question mark is Ty Vickery. He is available after a four-match suspension and Hardwick says he has trained the house down, but does he get back in? Ben Griffiths has been good in his spot but the Tigers are a chance to play both to stretch Sydney’s defence.
AL PATON’S FORECAST: It all comes down to this. Richmond must beat Sydney to make the finals and will start as underdog, but the Tigers are playing a brand of footy that could trouble the flag favourite. They will also be a lot happier playing the Swans on ANZ Stadium than the SCG. The Rance v Buddy duel will be huge but the Swans have a lot more weapons — can Richmond stop them all? Their record when playing for a top-eight spot in the final round isn’t great (ask Richmond fans about games against Melbourne and Carlton in the mid-90s) — hopefully this time they don’t die wondering.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/round-23-barometer-essendon-star-dyson-heppell-put-through-his-paces-richmond-and-north-melbourne-welcome-back-stars/story-fnelctok-1227036102867
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Hardwick saying Ty has trained the house down is a good indication he will play him I think, seeing how much he loves hime anyway. I still think Ty will maket it!!!!
Dropping Griff would be a bad move for mine.
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Hardwick saying Ty has trained the house down is a good indication he will play him I think, seeing how much he loves hime anyway. I still think Ty will maket it!!!!
Dropping Griff would be a bad move for mine.
Both will play imo. Gordan as sub in case we find it doesn't work but otherwise to add the extra run. Lennon will be the only omission.
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Jack just saying on SEN that it would be hard for Ty to get selected this week based on the form of the team.....mind games maybe...
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There is talk Thomas will be brought in
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Wouldnt mind the toughness of Thomas.
In Thomas, Vickery.
Out Lennon, Conca. Foley sub
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If Thomas plays we will lose, simple as that
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I'd take Thomas over Grigg every day twice vs Sydney
Unfortunately, in the eyes of hardwick, it's probably a question of Thomas AND grigg
Thomas is no good but his grunt would be valuable. You get the feeling everyone else has to cover more slack , when one or both of these are playing in the senior side. IMO
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If Thomas plays we will lose, simple as that
Unless we win
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Tigers face tough call on Tyrone Vickery
Michael Gleeson
The Age
August 26, 2014 - 6:58PM
Not for the first time in his career, Richmond has to ask what it does with Tyrone Vickery.
Confronting its final-before-the-finals against Sydney on Saturday night, Richmond has to decide whether to bring Vickery back in after a month of being sidelined due to his silly suspension.
The side has been winning without him, but in the games before he whacked Dean Cox in the nose, Vickery was playing well. The string of wins that began the Tigers' late-season surge to the brink of the finals coincided with Vickery coming back into the team after being dropped and he was playing well again, booting 10 goals in four games.
When he knocked himself out of the side by almost knocking Cox out, Vickery left the door open for Ben Griffiths to come back in as his replacement. Griffiths has since played as well as at any time in his brief AFL career. Griffiths doesn't really deserve to be squeezed out of the side. He is big, a booming kick, and is starting to better understand his presence and the role he needs to play in the team. He has only kicked five goals in those four games but the forward line has operated well and he has held up his end when asked to ruck.
It could be that it is not an either-or choice between the two key forwards and relief rucks, for there is a chance they could play both, but that would be a change of direction from the middle of the year. Richmond made a call on this mid-season when it stopped playing the pair of them together. It might have been coincidental that when Richmond was horrible at the start of the year Vickery and Griffiths were both playing … but then it might not be coincidence at all.
Richmond football manager Dan Richardson said four weeks out of the game was not likely to be an impediment to Vickery returning and so it was only a matter of choice in team selection.
"He has trained hard through the break and we think his fitness is fine but we have an important training session on Thursday to assess all of that," Richardson said. "Training form has a bit of a bearing on selection.
"We have not made a call yet, it will be up to match committee on Thursday afternoon. It is good position to be in to be having to make hard calls at selection at this time of the year."
Former captain Chris Newman was non-committal on Vickery when asked about it on Tuesday, confirming that Vickery had been mounting the most persuasive case he could for a recall, without actually stating whether he thought he should be recalled.
"He's been trying to do that (make up for his suspension) for the past four weeks. He's worked really hard," Newman said. "A lot of the sessions that he's had to do, he looks exhausted after it. He knows that he let us down, he admitted that. He's putting his hand up to definitely be selected. He's doing everything in his powers to be out there with us."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-face-tough-call-on-tyrone-vickery-20140826-108quh.html
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Personally, I hope we play Vickery, Griffiths and Maric. Sydney will most likely have Buddy, Tippett, Goodes and Reid, so we shouldn't worry about being top-heavy. I'd be more worried about going in under-sized and having to worry about covering all those big blokes. Let's put the acid back on them and let them worry about covering our three-pronged attack. The other good thing about having three potential rucks is that Maric (and maybe at times Griffiths and Vickery, just to mix it up) can drop back into the hole and help out our defenders, who are certainly going to have their hands full. So for mine, the changes would be: :pray
IN: Vickery, Martin
OUT: Lennon, Grigg
PS-We need to hit these blokes HARD from the opening bounce, and let them know from the outset that they're in for a tough day at the office. Then we'll see if they're keen to join in the fight, or if they're in survival mode. If we can't beat ém we need to maim them. Cola-drinking AFL pets.
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We might not have to worry about Reid:
When it comes to the Swans, I think they would be nervous about risking Josh Kennedy after he missed only one game with a low-grade left hamstring injury.
If there is any concern at all later in the week, he'll have another week off to be ready for the finals.
A recurrent injury would see him miss 3-4 weeks at best.
Sam Reid missed on the weekend with chronic hip soreness and is probably going to need another week off to be available for the finals.
The Swans subbed Kurt Tippett out of their win over the Western Bulldogs to ice both knees, which is part of his chronic soreness maintenance program.
It was simply smart workload management by the Swans at three-quarter time and I expect he'll be available to play if he's required this weekend against Richmond.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-27/docs-diagnosis-round-23 (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-27/docs-diagnosis-round-23)
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We'll need to lock down on McVeigh and particlularly Malceski. Swans get all their drive from these two off half back and they both push forward and score also.
Out Lennon
In Martin
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Tippett rested, then just tell Vickery to break Franklin's jaw in the 1st QTR.
Spot earned.
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We'll need to lock down on McVeigh and particlularly Malceski. Swans get all their drive from these two off half back and they both push forward and score also.
Out Lennon
In Martin
spot on Dice, like Martin at the crows, McVeigh and Malceski give a huge percentage of their drive. I'd even look at playing Morris as a lockdown fwd on one of them, preferably McVeigh
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Based on our game vs the Saints I would guess the Swans will be doing exactly the same thing to Grimes and Houli, definitely won't have the same amount of time/space as they did on the weekend.
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Might bring in Vickery and then use Griffiths in the forwardline and up the wings to stretch their defense or to drop back if they begin to get on top
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One area I think we can beat the Swans is in the Ruck so we really need to capitalise on centre clearances. McVeigh needs to be watched closely. Also need to make sure Shaw does not get cheap possessions.
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Ins; Martin & Vickery
Out: Gordon & Batchelor
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McBean would be bold