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Title: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: mightytiges on August 02, 2005, 02:57:48 PM
A much improved year from Kayne on a HFF. Played every game this season (never played more than 10 previously) with 23.13 goals from 18 games averaging 12.6 disposals and 4.6 marks. He's kicked almost as many goals in 2005 as he did in his whole first 4 years.

Do we perserve with him or does he have trade value?

Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 02, 2005, 04:29:28 PM
I'd keep him.

He gives us a very mobile target on the forward line who's a strong mark and good kick for goal. Also he seems to have improved under Tezza and I reckon he can get better.

Does he have trade value - 12 months ago NOPE but now he certainly does but as I said I'd keep him
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: Mopsy on August 02, 2005, 04:33:37 PM
Perserve I say.

Pettifer is on th verge of arriving as a player having been given a chance to prove himself and get some self belief.

I think that is what Wallace is trying to achieve with the likes of Tivendale, Hilton and Chaffey.

For years now we have had players not given a chance to develop and consequently we do not have a dearth of players on our list between 23 and 27 which is the time when they should be at their peak as a footballer.

If we continue to cast aside players reaching this age group we will continue to get nowhere in the future.

'Better the fox you know than the fox you don't know' ( look at Simmonds)
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: om21 on August 02, 2005, 04:39:03 PM
I used to beat the KP drum that under Dud he was never given a run and I think I was fairly accurate. I was happy with his first 10 rounds but has gone off the boil since...what does that mean? He is a bit player and will never exceed that.

If we get 30 goals a season from a bit player....Ill take it and run. KEEP.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: Ox on August 02, 2005, 05:27:31 PM
As a former Pettifer hater I must say I'm happily wearing his new form.

Send him 'round one more time.
A 1 year contract at the end of the year could be the right incentive for him to go all the way.
If he doesn't show furhter improvent in 06 w could cut our costs and let him go.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: letsgetiton! on August 02, 2005, 05:51:35 PM
he has talent and skills, keep him for sure, he will keep maturing
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: Razorblade on August 02, 2005, 05:58:15 PM
Keep him!
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: Captain__Blood on August 02, 2005, 06:44:39 PM
I'd trade him if I could get a decent draft pick for him, top 25-30 pick.

Talented player which gets alot of frees. Also a beutiful kick.

Sadly, one of the softest players in the league
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: julzqld on August 04, 2005, 07:42:38 AM
Last year I would have said let him go.  This year he has improved.  Let him stay and see how he goes next year.
Title: Pettifer on club corner
Post by: mightytiges on August 23, 2005, 12:55:29 AM
Kayne Pettifer was also on club corner:

* He knew he could have been delisted at the end of last year but Terry saw something that he could still offer. This year was a crunch year for him. He had a ankle injury before Christmas which interrupted his pre-season but got an opportunity in the practice matches and after the first few rounds gained a fair bit of confidence. He's enjoying playing back in the forward line and hopes he gets another contract at the end of the year.

* Royal said Pettifer's had a terrific season. A good effort to kick 30 goals and play every game. 
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: cub on August 23, 2005, 01:09:57 AM
Come along in leaps and bounds this year - something I go on about is the "above the shoulders stuff", TW seems to of given this to him - definately keep. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: Ox on August 23, 2005, 01:45:28 AM
2 year contract.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: DallasCrane on August 23, 2005, 06:25:56 AM
2 year contract.


Yeah, Pettifer's earned that.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: kendrick on August 23, 2005, 06:30:35 AM
very good player.. has grown into one of my favourites...

definately keep him
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: bg25 on August 23, 2005, 12:16:11 PM
Definitely keep. He's in the age group we need and is one of the VERY few players we have with genuine skill and a good footy brain. Is able to kick goals and also hit targets with precision passes...something sorely lacking in most of our players. His weighted pass to Tuck in between several Doggies the other week was a gem.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: JohnF on August 23, 2005, 12:22:48 PM
I'm hoping and praying that he doesn't turn out to be a one year wonder. Keep.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: Razorblade on August 23, 2005, 03:43:05 PM
Keep him, however i'd be hesitant to give him a 2 year deal.

Pettifer = poor mans Nathan Brown.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: one-eyed on August 23, 2005, 07:00:49 PM
Here's the audio to Kayne's interview last night:

http://sport927.com.au/gateway/Daily_Audio/Sound%20Grabs/KP_230805.asx
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: Fishfinger on August 23, 2005, 07:34:50 PM

Pettifer = poor mans Nathan Brown.
95% of AFL players = poor man's Nathan Brown.  ;D

I reckon he's our best kick behind his good mate Brett Deledio. Kayne wears his heart on his sleeve and busts his guts. He has been persevered with through 3 1/2 years of slow development, and now that perseverence is being rewarded it seems crazy to me to even remotely contemplate not keeping him. He's one we've developed at our club and I want him to stay.

Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 23, 2005, 07:46:04 PM
Keep him, however i'd be hesitant to give him a 2 year deal.

I reckon they'll offer him 2 years and he's probably earned it.

You could argue that it's amazing how he's played this season compared to the last 4 but then again when you think about it maybe it's not so amazing after all .............. :lol

But having said that we should give him 2 years I reckon you have to think that with the number of blokes coming out of contract at the same time we have to be careful in what we offer in terms of number of years. I don't think it's smart to give them all 2 years nor do I like idea of giving too many 3 year deals. IMO we need to stagger them out bit and give a few of them 1 year deals only
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: letsgetiton! on August 24, 2005, 06:54:50 AM
they should give him 2 but if they gave him 3 it would not bother me.  i saw his potential from the beginning, tezza did too. spud was a dud and had no idea how to develop him.
now lets see, petts is a great mark, has a very accurate and long kick, always tries his guts out, always tries to tackle and put on defensive pressure and is a naturally gifted footballer.he just needed to be given the chance and stability! spud screwed him over and i know 4 a fact that spud hated petts and wanted to ruin him , and it showed by the way he was coached. petts also has the abiluity to play down back if needed in the future.  this kid has copped it left right and centre thanx to spud and thank god tezza saw his assetts and potential and gave him the confidence and chance.
how namy players in our team to we have with all petts assetts???? he will develop into a gr8 player, 30 goals in his 1st full season is an awesome effort, and we still have a game to go
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: om21 on August 24, 2005, 12:59:45 PM
A 2 year deal is fair....although if Krak warranted a 3-year deal then Pets probably deserves an 8-year deal to see his career out at Tigerland.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 24, 2005, 01:06:59 PM
A 2 year deal is fair....although if Krak warranted a 3-year deal then Pets probably deserves an 8-year deal to see his career out at Tigerland.


 :rollin :rollin :rollin

I reckon that equates to Deledio getting a 25 year deal om21 ;D
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: Razorblade on August 24, 2005, 01:18:11 PM
I'm just not a big believer in "breakout" years, i think a player needs to do it 2 years in a row before it should be considered a "breakout".
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: JohnF on August 24, 2005, 02:13:51 PM
Agreed Razor.

Last year Krakouer had a good year and now everyone wants to turf him to Siberia. Pettifer has shown one good year in 5. Let's not forget that.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: mightytiges on August 24, 2005, 04:49:03 PM
A standard 2 year deal for Pettifer should suffice. On the radio he appeared to be happy if he gets a new contract. IMO 3 year contracts should only be handed out to consistent long-term quality performers. If in 2 years time he is still kicking 30+ goals per year as a small forward then you might consider the next contract to be 3 years.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: strav on August 24, 2005, 11:22:12 PM
Definatly keep Petts. Have to agree with many posters that he has improved immensly over the season. It looked at the beginning that he had low confidence and the fact that he has been able to stabilize himself, enabled him to concentrate on his football without worrying whether or not he has upset the coaching staff. Give him 2 years. I don't think anybody knows his true potential. Next year will show that.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: bluey_21 on August 25, 2005, 01:12:16 PM
Pets has proven himself this year and deserves a spot next year and the year after that
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: Moi on August 25, 2005, 05:05:06 PM
I don't know if he's proven himself, but it's been a lot better return than his performances of the last few years.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: letsgetiton! on August 26, 2005, 06:13:39 AM
I don't know if he's proven himself, but it's been a lot better return than his performances of the last few years.

spud the dud never ever gave him an honest chance, any remember ezra poyas, he had great foot skills and showed gr8 promise too but spud screwed him over and many more also!

i hate danny with a passion and he has alot to answer 4
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: mightytiges on August 26, 2005, 05:21:48 PM
spud the dud never ever gave him an honest chance, any remember ezra poyas, he had great foot skills and showed gr8 promise too but spud screwed him over and many more also!

Another one from the 1999 draft in which we scored zero long-term players :scream - Fiora, Poyas, Homewood, Mills and Zantuck! Only good thing to come out of that draft was Leon Cameron but long-term we missed out on Mitch Hahn from the Doggies :-\.

Ezra's still running around with Sandy isn't he?
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: letsgetiton! on August 26, 2005, 05:30:27 PM
i think so but am not sure
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: cub on August 26, 2005, 05:53:26 PM
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Ezra's still running around with Sandy isn't he?
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Yep certainly is - Allways thought he may have made it but alas.
 I actually bumped into him doing a few laps of the tan the other day.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: Mopsy on August 26, 2005, 09:54:25 PM
there's only one word for it all "SAD" :(
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: mightytiges on August 27, 2005, 06:45:39 PM
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Ezra's still running around with Sandy isn't he?

Yep certainly is - Allways thought he may have made it but alas.
 I actually bumped into him doing a few laps of the tan the other day.

He was on the tv today playing up forward.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: Tiger Spirit on August 27, 2005, 10:13:35 PM
Keep. :thumbsup

Here are some quotes from Kayne, from an article in the current issue of Inside Football, which relate to his previous form.

On what held him back early days

“A bit of mindset, probably a lack of opportunity, my confidence wasn’t really there because I was in and out of the side.  It put me back a fair bit those early years because being a high draft pick you come in and sort of expect to play games.  I thought I’d made it when I got drafted but I had to get my mind right.  They say that after a few years the penny drops and for me it took a while, but it finally happened.”

Richmond Fans

“It’s hard to win our supporters over and I suppose this year I’ve won them over a bit after getting bagged for most of the last four years.  It (the criticism from Tiger fans) was pretty daunting when you pick up the paper and see people saying the club has wasted a draft pick – it plays on your mind.  To be copping that at 18 and 19 is pretty tough.”
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - 8. Kayne Pettifer
Post by: Razorblade on August 27, 2005, 11:08:10 PM
He was played out of position most of his career, a poor mans nathan brown who was subjected to HBF duties!  :help