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Title: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 10, 2014, 11:51:51 AM
Could be good for the Cubs  :shh
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Rampstar on October 10, 2014, 11:52:50 AM
yeah I agree and I wrote it in the other thread. McCartney is a good coach and a good bloke and if we can afford we should get him in to support Dimma and the other coaches.
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: tony_montana on October 10, 2014, 11:55:31 AM
I know we take the pee about every senior coach getting sacked coming over as an assistant but for macca I think we should have a massive crack.
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: tigs2011 on October 10, 2014, 11:57:39 AM
Playing-coach in the VFL? How does he say no?  :shh
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 10, 2014, 12:07:33 PM
Why are coach sacking always about us?
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Chuck17 on October 10, 2014, 12:07:50 PM
Straight swap for hampson
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 10, 2014, 12:09:37 PM
Get Cocka  :gotigers
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: taztiger4 on October 10, 2014, 12:50:43 PM
How did he go last time he was an assistant with us ?
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on October 10, 2014, 01:01:56 PM
Trade for Lids and Tyrone.
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: dwaino on October 10, 2014, 01:04:28 PM
Dev coach, get it done Tiggies.
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: scjhammo on October 10, 2014, 02:02:08 PM
i think worrying about getting macca down to the club should be the last thing on our plate we need to look at the list and the players on the list coaches don't play the game these 22 each week do.... waste of money  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Smokey on October 10, 2014, 02:35:03 PM
I know we take the pee about every senior coach getting sacked coming over as an assistant but for macca I think we should have a massive crack.

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Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on October 10, 2014, 02:44:10 PM
yeah I agree and I wrote it in the other thread. McCartney is a good coach and a good bloke and if we can afford we should get him in to support Dimma and the other coaches.

This post shows me you are not always taking the pee  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Penelope on October 10, 2014, 02:48:58 PM
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Gordon said a post-season review had revealed the coach's communication with players had become a serious issue in the second half of 2014.

“Macca acknowledged that observation and he promised to work on it, and the fact of the matter is he has worked on it, really hard.

“But it’s also fair to say we were concerned and Macca himself was concerned about whether the position itself was recoverable.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brendan-mccartney-quits-as-western-bulldogs-coach/story-fni5fazt-1227086125964

yep, lets race out and get a coach who has been shown the door for failing in the most fundamental area a coach needs to competent, at the bare minimum, in.
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: tony_montana on October 10, 2014, 04:19:53 PM
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Gordon said a post-season review had revealed the coach's communication with players had become a serious issue in the second half of 2014.

“Macca acknowledged that observation and he promised to work on it, and the fact of the matter is he has worked on it, really hard.

“But it’s also fair to say we were concerned and Macca himself was concerned about whether the position itself was recoverable.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brendan-mccartney-quits-as-western-bulldogs-coach/story-fni5fazt-1227086125964

yep, lets race out and get a coach who has been shown the door for failing in the most fundamental area a coach needs to competent, at the bare minimum, in.

On the otherhand  he's been a very highly regarded assistant in the past at geelong and the bombers. Won the assistant coach of the year award by the coaches association in 2010. Just bc he failed at the bulldogs doesnt make him a dud.
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Penelope on October 10, 2014, 04:23:33 PM
no, but surely it must be a concern if his issue was communication with the players?
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: the claw on October 10, 2014, 04:32:32 PM
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Gordon said a post-season review had revealed the coach's communication with players had become a serious issue in the second half of 2014.

“Macca acknowledged that observation and he promised to work on it, and the fact of the matter is he has worked on it, really hard.

“But it’s also fair to say we were concerned and Macca himself was concerned about whether the position itself was recoverable.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brendan-mccartney-quits-as-western-bulldogs-coach/story-fni5fazt-1227086125964

yep, lets race out and get a coach who has been shown the door for failing in the most fundamental area a coach needs to competent, at the bare minimum, in.

On the otherhand  he's been a very highly regarded assistant in the past at geelong and the bombers. Won the assistant coach of the year award by the coaches association in 2010. Just bc he failed at the bulldogs doesnt make him a dud.
he has a good development record before he became a head coach.
dunno about melbourne itself but even over here in perth lots of people have been scathing of his coaching.
sa lot of his team selections have been nothing short of bewildering and his poor game day performances almost as bad. ive thought for at least 12 months now that he would have to go at some stage.
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: tony_montana on October 10, 2014, 04:47:04 PM
no, but surely it must be a concern if his issue was communication with the players?

Tbh not really for mine, mainly bc it never was previously.
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Danog on October 10, 2014, 05:03:43 PM
no, but surely it must be a concern if his issue was communication with the players?

The issue was that he pushed them too hard. That's right.
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 10, 2014, 05:42:19 PM
Yes, we should.
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Penelope on October 10, 2014, 05:43:21 PM
no, but surely it must be a concern if his issue was communication with the players?

Tbh not really for mine, mainly bc it never was previously.

perhaps it was, just that it didnt stand out due to those around him?

who knows, though?

i find it a concern for a coach to be given the a for that, and bemusing how nearly every coach we appoint gets bagged, all the while every coach sacked/pushed from other clubs we should be trying to get
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: tony_montana on October 10, 2014, 06:10:27 PM
no, but surely it must be a concern if his issue was communication with the players?

Tbh not really for mine, mainly bc it never was previously.

perhaps it was, just that it didnt stand out due to those around him?

who knows, though?

i find it a concern for a coach to be given the a for that, and bemusing how nearly every coach we appoint gets bagged, all the while every coach sacked/pushed from other clubs we should be trying to get

 ;D

It is a bit of a pisstake.

 But yeah in this case, I rate the way he speaks and comes across in public and given the way reverent way Balmey/Mooney speak about his time at the cats is enough for mine.
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: torch on October 10, 2014, 06:23:48 PM
I know we take the pee about every senior coach getting sacked coming over as an assistant but for macca I think we should have a massive crack.

x 2

x 3
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Simonator on October 11, 2014, 09:09:52 AM
Serious yes. Need to land a real assistant coach
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Owl on October 11, 2014, 09:56:25 AM
imagine if we land him, and taylor petrenko and the wassis name from the gold coast  WOAH !  we are the retirement village for sacked coaches.
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Andyy on October 11, 2014, 09:58:14 AM
Does it concern anybody that he was more or less ousted by the players due to communication breakdowns?
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Gigantor on October 11, 2014, 10:29:34 AM
we complain about getting hand me down players but many of us want discarded coaches.....go figure
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 11, 2014, 11:13:58 AM
Didn't he start off at the tiges in 1998?

Come back home Brendan! ;D
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: big tone on October 11, 2014, 11:38:53 AM
Reading between the lines, the problem some had with his communication was they didn't like what they heard. More of a problem with the players not the coach.
From all reports he is very good are very hard especially with his senior players, a couple of things we lack in our coaching department.
IMO he would be a great addition to our club. Enough kids as coaches learning on the job.
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 11, 2014, 11:41:10 AM
Yep doggies mature players little girls
Title: Re: Brendon Mcartney sacked, should we get him as an assistant?
Post by: Andyy on October 11, 2014, 12:15:28 PM
So we're confident then that the tail has wagged the dog?

I'm not convinced.