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Title: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2014, 05:53:17 PM
Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond from Melbourne

Herald-Sun
October 10, 2014 5:38PM


FORMER Melbourne captain Jack Trengove could be headed to Richmond.

The Demons are considering swapping the midfielder and selection No. 23 for the Tigers’ pick 12.

Trengove, 23, is reluctant to shift to the Tigers but would not block the trade.

It is understood Trengove, the No.2 pick in the 2009 draft, has completed a medical check with Richmond and toured the Punt Rd facilities.

Trengove has suffered repeated foot injuries and has failed to reach the heights of his first season.

He was made the youngest captain in the game’s history under ex-coach Mark Neeld but stepped down after poor form and injury last year.

His departure would mean Melbourne would have farewelled Tom Scully and Trengove, its first two picks from the 2009 national draft, a season in which it was later penalised over tanking allegations.

Trengove has played 81 games including only two last season.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-trengove-could-be-traded-to-richmond-from-melbourne/story-fndv8t7m-1227086775552
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 10, 2014, 05:55:47 PM
 :cheers

Trengrove
Miles
Vlastuin
Martin
Lids
Cotxhin.  :shh

Would be a good deal as he's a serious footballing prospect 23 still got his best ahead

Ideally get back a top 15 pick via a trade
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tony_montana on October 10, 2014, 06:02:57 PM
tbh I dont rate him much thus far - looks very pedestrian but that could be bc he's been injured and lacking in conditioning.

He's reluctant to make the move also..
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2014, 06:03:48 PM
This must be what Dan Richardson apparently hinted about at some function today.

Quote
Apparently Dan Richardson said at a luncheon today that although the plan was to go to the draft, something has changed in the last 12 hours and we might be hearing some good news on Monday. Hmmmm

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-discussion-2014-part-ii-current-picks-12-33-52.1079644/page-4#post-35628981
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on October 10, 2014, 06:13:29 PM
Heh...who's singing our song now Melbourne flogs?

But seriously...don't reckon he's worth pick 12 these days....damaged goods and really not all that special anyway....

Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 10, 2014, 06:15:39 PM
Would rather Cockatoo!!!! :gotigers
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 10, 2014, 06:17:39 PM
tbh I dont rate him much thus far - looks very pedestrian but that could be bc he's been injured and lacking in conditioning.

He's reluctant to make the move also..

Dustin martin plays like a grandmother with injury

Wait untikk he gets fit
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 10, 2014, 06:18:53 PM
Pick 12 is overs for a bloke coming back from a nasty foot injury

Mostly likey means it will happen
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 10, 2014, 06:19:48 PM
Pick 12 is overs for a bloke coming back from a nasty foot injury

Mostly likey means it will happen

Its  only 10 spots back  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: dwaino on October 10, 2014, 06:20:35 PM
Phwoooaaarrr. Keen.

Agree that he wouldn't be worth exactly pick 12 but don't think you could get him cheaper than a late first round, which we don't have. Wonder how much permanent damage Melbourne have caused on his development? Huge potential but also big chance to be a massive bust. 23 isn't the greatest place to start in the draft but maybe we can work our back into late first round.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 10, 2014, 06:21:18 PM
what type of foot injuries has he had?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: torch on October 10, 2014, 06:22:06 PM
Interesting ...

Question is how bad his foot injuries are?

Pick 12 ... very high and this could be a massive mistake or masterstroke?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 10, 2014, 06:22:28 PM
Phwoooaaarrr. Keen.

Agree that he wouldn't be worth exactly pick 12 but don't think you could get him cheaper than a late first round, which we don't have. Wonder how much permanent damage Melbourne have caused on his development? Huge potential but also big chance to be a massive bust. 23 isn't the greatest place to start in the draft but maybe we can work our back into late first round.

Actually Huddo said on SEN last night that tigers were trying to get a late first rounder somehow, think we know why now
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: dwaino on October 10, 2014, 06:22:38 PM
what type of foot injuries has he had?

Decapitation. Now has two club feet but still quicker than Thomas.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 10, 2014, 06:32:21 PM
what type of foot injuries has he had?

Navicular bone

Some players recover from it (eg Richo) while for others (eg Egan who used to play for Geelong) it ends their career
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 10, 2014, 06:33:26 PM
Dank gave him good stuff  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 10, 2014, 06:34:08 PM
what type of foot injuries has he had?

Navicular bone

Some players recover from it (eg Richo) while for others (eg Egan who used to play for Geelong) it ends their career

that the worst type of foot injury for a footballer. that being the case I reserve judgement, seems like a big risk based on that information.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on October 10, 2014, 06:34:55 PM
wasn't Egan talking of suing Geelong because of the way they managed his injury?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: JP Tiger on October 10, 2014, 06:36:23 PM
I don't mind this bloke, pretty good player imo.  He is a classy mid-size with some flexibility & is top class in close.  Not sure about handing over our pick 12 for him though, I'd rather find another way if possible, but he is a good type that we could use.  He would look good next to Cotch & Miles as another in/under mid, can also play forward & can really clunk those one-grab marks.  We could do a lot worse ... providing those feet are in good nick?  Test him out hard in Francis Bourke style, if he breaks send him back to Melb ...    :whistle  (he was limping like that when he got out of his car, honest injun!) 
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 10, 2014, 06:36:29 PM
Trengove is pooty. A NO from me. Pick 12 will get us a better player
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on October 10, 2014, 06:37:44 PM
Really not sure about giving up pick 12, we need to keep that pick, I did like Trengove but I am not sure he has lived up to the hype.....very undecided on this one. :-\

I would take him for a second rounder and Grigg traded.

I would like to think Grigg will make it one day but.... :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 10, 2014, 06:39:40 PM
With some class around him I reckon he d thrive , Melb has been a cesspit in recent years horrible environment for players to develop , at 23 definitely worth a punt and we still get  pick 23 which Fj can still work with like putty in his hands
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on October 10, 2014, 06:41:54 PM
putty or play doh ?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 10, 2014, 06:50:59 PM
wasn't Egan talking of suing Geelong because of the way they managed his injury?

Yep
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 10, 2014, 06:52:33 PM
Vlastuin 20
Miles 22
Martin 22
Trengrove 23
Chimp 24
Deledio 27

Balanced  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 10, 2014, 07:02:54 PM
the whole issue is how bad is his navicular bone in his injured foot and can we manage it. if we get him but he breaks down because of it its a bad trade if we manage him through it and he goes on to play 150 games then we have shafted Melbourne and it would be a great deal. I don't mind it if we can manage his injuries and he plays but theres no point in getting him if he cant play because of his foot.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Golfprotiger on October 10, 2014, 07:05:10 PM
Pick 12 = Future does it not..... Trengrove is he the future?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 10, 2014, 07:06:33 PM
@23 he should play 10 more yeara
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 10, 2014, 07:06:41 PM
Pick 12 = Future does it not..... Trengrove is he the future?

hes only 23 so in theory he could have 10 years left in his career, so he has a future ... its all about the navicular for mine and how bad it is.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 10, 2014, 07:07:46 PM
In theory they have a medical before signing him to clear all that

Yet again Richmond medical staff got average record
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 10, 2014, 07:08:49 PM
wasn't Egan talking of suing Geelong because of the way they managed his injury?

Yep
Not quite correct WP.
He is actually suing Mark Blackney (foot surgeon) and Chris Bradshaw (club doctor), not the club.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 10, 2014, 07:13:09 PM
wasn't Egan talking of suing Geelong because of the way they managed his injury?

Yep
Not quite correct WP.
He is actually suing Mark Blackney (foot surgeon) and Chris Bradshaw (club doctor), not the club.

Ta,

RFC connection is Chris Bradshaw is a life member of the RFC was our doctor for a long long time
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: RedanTiger on October 10, 2014, 07:19:10 PM
So they'll trade out pick 12 for Trengove but are not interested in any of the Giants kids like O'Rourke.
They have left themselves with the obvious comparison. Trengove versus O'Rourke
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on October 10, 2014, 07:23:20 PM
wasn't Egan talking of suing Geelong because of the way they managed his injury?

Yep
Not quite correct WP.
He is actually suing Mark Blackney (foot surgeon) and Chris Bradshaw (club doctor), not the club.

it still comes down to the management of the injury rather than the nature of the injury that cut his career short?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on October 10, 2014, 07:28:06 PM
Meh he has been deemonised, extremely hard to get that out of a player
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tony_montana on October 10, 2014, 07:28:26 PM
So they'll trade out pick 12 for Trengove but are not interested in any of the Giants kids like O'Rourke.
They have left themselves with the obvious comparison. Trengove versus O'Rourke

I was thinking the exact same thing in the car on the way home RT
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 10, 2014, 07:32:37 PM
Meh he has been deemonised, extremely hard to get that out of a player
OMG Chucky, you would certainly know that! :lol
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 10, 2014, 07:51:51 PM
You guys have lost the plot  ::) Trengove is a dud. Don't do it Tigers!!!
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 10, 2014, 08:18:36 PM
So they'll trade out pick 12 for Trengove but are not interested in any of the Giants kids like O'Rourke.
They have left themselves with the obvious comparison. Trengove versus O'Rourke
i think its more to do with they want ready to go players as they think they are in some sort of window.

trengove aside  i say aside because its neither here nor there how us nuffers  rate him as a player, i think its the sort of deal we needed to do. we have at the least had a crack   at the worst, a decent player who may or may not become better than decent,and also have  a good crack  at a good kid at pick 23. itsd a way to build GOOD DEPTH.
now they need to get back into the first round so we can target some genuine quality.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: The Big Richo on October 10, 2014, 08:46:17 PM
I'd prefer his sister.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 10, 2014, 08:56:04 PM
You guys have lost the plot  ::) Trengove is a dud. Don't do it Tigers!!!

if he plays lets say 16 games+ and takes some heat off our other midfielders then it could work out ok but the navicular is a problem IMHO.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 10, 2014, 09:06:47 PM
Meh he has been deemonised, extremely hard to get that out of a player
bit like tigeritis that one. no known cure to date. :o
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on October 10, 2014, 09:08:30 PM
Has the potential to be a worse trade than Hampson

Must do trade to give us whiney old moles something to bitch about
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on October 10, 2014, 09:09:55 PM
is the navicular more of a problem than back/hamstring problems?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 10, 2014, 09:11:42 PM
Apparently Adelaide trying to trump us with pick 10 and the lure of going back to SA….

Talk about unimaginative copycats.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/adelaide-crows-look-to-trump-richmond-deal-for-melbourne-midfielder-jack-trengove/story-e6frf3e3-1227086871581?from=public_rss&nk=3432198c5b101fdfe5187a3c81c7ab66
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 10, 2014, 09:18:55 PM
Apparently Adelaide trying to trump us with pick 10 and the lure of going back to SA….

Talk about unimaginative copycats.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/adelaide-crows-look-to-trump-richmond-deal-for-melbourne-midfielder-jack-trengove/story-e6frf3e3-1227086871581?from=public_rss&nk=3432198c5b101fdfe5187a3c81c7ab66
Rucci making up stuff again  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on October 10, 2014, 09:23:57 PM
actually, everything he says on the subject is true  ;)
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 10, 2014, 09:26:39 PM
Couldn't see adelaide giving up 10, they'd be strung up
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on October 10, 2014, 09:29:06 PM
What I'm confused on is why the Dees want pick 12 or so, surely they know whoever they pick will turn into a girl so why do they want a draft pick? Instead they should be picking players other clubs have developed
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 10, 2014, 09:33:47 PM
What I'm confused on is why the Dees want pick 12 or so, surely they know whoever they pick will turn into a girl so why do they want a draft pick? Instead they should be picking players other clubs have developed
I think they are planning an assault on Dayne Beams.  Pick 3 and 12 for Beams.  Hell, they might throw in Watts too for good measure!
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on October 10, 2014, 09:35:20 PM
What I'm confused on is why the Dees want pick 12 or so, surely they know whoever they pick will turn into a girl so why do they want a draft pick? Instead they should be picking players other clubs have developed
I think they are planning an assault on Dayne Beams.  Pick 3 and 12 for Beams.  Hell, they might throw in Watts too for good measure!

Yeh probably although I wouldn't throw Watts in as it will push up the price
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: The Big Richo on October 10, 2014, 09:40:57 PM
is the navicular more of a problem than back/hamstring problems?

Very much so, unless the back is broken which can be problematic.  ;)
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on October 10, 2014, 09:46:35 PM
lol
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 10, 2014, 09:56:36 PM
Is Trengove tougher than a Rye RSL steak ? Bo?  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on October 10, 2014, 10:05:33 PM
Forget where he was taken in the draft all those years ago.
He hasn't done much since.
I'd keep the pick personally.
Pass.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 10, 2014, 10:09:00 PM
Forget where he was taken in the draft all those years ago.
He hasn't done much since.
I'd keep the pick personally.
Pass.

He's had a broken foot for two years

He's a bit of a jet at full capacity. FO Adelaide
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 10, 2014, 10:11:08 PM
How many games this year ?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on October 10, 2014, 10:11:14 PM
Forget where he was taken in the draft all those years ago.
He hasn't done much since.
I'd keep the pick personally.
Pass.

He's had a broken foot for two years

He's a bit of a jet at full capacity. FO Adelaide

So which is it? I think he missed a heck of a lot of development through both injury and his time is that crappy club.
The game hasn't gotten any slower either.
Big risk.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 10, 2014, 10:12:07 PM
Ten spots back in the draft isn't that big a risk in the grand scheme of the universe

You could argue its a bigger risk overlooking a potential a grader 23 yoa - that wouldccertainly add something to the current mix
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on October 10, 2014, 10:17:03 PM
Forget where he was taken in the draft all those years ago.
He hasn't done much since.
I'd keep the pick personally.
Pass.

Agree. In fact the more I think about it the more I suspect Melbourne are trying to pull a fast one. Why so keen to give up a former captain & #2 pick who's still only 23 and doesn't want to leave?

Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on October 10, 2014, 10:20:35 PM
Paul Roos is not stupid. He doesn't let the good ones go.
This toy is broken and patched up with sticky tape to make it go ok.
Buyer beware.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: MintOnLamb on October 10, 2014, 10:21:32 PM
Forget where he was taken in the draft all those years ago.
He hasn't done much since.
I'd keep the pick personally.
Pass.

Agree. In fact the more I think about it the more I suspect Melbourne are trying to pull a fast one. Why so keen to give up a former captain & #2 pick who's still only 23 and doesn't want to leave?
Agree, roos is pretty clever, try I g to suck us in, pass on trengove
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2014, 10:23:40 PM
Tigers make surprise bid for Jack Trengove

  Michael Gleeson and Emma Quayle
     The Age
    October 10, 2014 - 9:15PM



Former Melbourne captain Jack Trengove could be moving to Richmond as part of a surprising exchange after an audacious bid by Richmond and Adelaide.

The Demons and Tigers are considering a trade whereby Trengove and the Demons' pick 23 would be traded to Richmond for its first-round selection, pick 12. That deal would mean the Demons would have picks two, three and 12 in the national draft and position them to trade more confidently one of their two early picks.

Complicating the picture, Adelaide is interested in the South Australian Trengove, but it is understood he would rather remain in Melbourne.

Trengove arrived at the club with Tom Scully as the first two picks in the 2009 draft. Scully is long gone to the Giants and Trengove, at 23, is confronting a move he did not solicit.

"We said after our last game to our playing list that we would look at all avenues to improve our list," Melbourne football manager Josh Mahoney said in a statement. "Richmond came to us with a potential deal, Jack is aware of this and all parties will now take some time to consider our options."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-make-surprise-bid-for-jack-trengove-20141010-114hbg.html

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Trengove, 23, is reluctant to shift to the Tigers but would not block the trade.

It is understood Trengove, the No.2 pick in the 2009 draft, has completed a medical check with Richmond and toured the Punt Rd facilities.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-trengove-could-be-traded-to-richmond-from-melbourne/story-fndv8t7m-1227086775552
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2014, 10:24:57 PM
Apparently Adelaide trying to trump us with pick 10 and the lure of going back to SA….

Talk about unimaginative copycats.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/adelaide-crows-look-to-trump-richmond-deal-for-melbourne-midfielder-jack-trengove/story-e6frf3e3-1227086871581?from=public_rss&nk=3432198c5b101fdfe5187a3c81c7ab66
The Age article says Trengove wants to remain in Melbourne.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on October 10, 2014, 10:30:12 PM
Why bother is he doesn't want to shift and he can't be worth pick 12!!!
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: big tone on October 10, 2014, 10:33:05 PM
Interested on people's thoughts-
If you had to choose today between Trengrove or Conca, who would you choose?

And do you think anyone would offer us the same deal for Conca?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on October 10, 2014, 10:33:54 PM
Interested on people's thoughts-
If you had to choose today between Trengrove or Conca, who would you choose?

And do you think anyone would offer us the same deal for Conca?

I'd certainly expect pick 12 for Conca. That trade wouldn't get done though.

I'd also take Conca over Trengove as it stands right now.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 10, 2014, 10:35:29 PM
Trengrove for sure
Conca is very average
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: JVT on October 10, 2014, 10:35:55 PM
While we lose pick 12 we gain 23, so it isn't as bad as what some are making out. He has skill, only worry for mine is his injury but if thats all good it could be a great move. Trengove is definitely a talent, just hasn't been able to put it all together at Melbourne, but then again no one has for years there.

Lots of recruiters saying the draft is quite deep this year as well, and pick 18 is allocated to Heeney so its a 10 position drop in draft order. Is the kid we pick up at 12 better than the kid we get at 23 + Trengove? I'd say more than likely no.

I'm for it, pending the injury is ok  :cheers
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 10, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
Roos wanted to give up jetta and Rohan for martin

Martin is good but not that good

Roos iisn't the messiah
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Stripes on October 10, 2014, 10:41:34 PM
We wouldn't be getting him and pick 23 for pick 12 if he hadn't had 2 years off with injury and is a potential risk. We are putting a lot of faith in our medical staff here but the upside here cikd be enormous. Is does move away from our risk free policy with our first pick too.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 10, 2014, 10:44:01 PM
Not going to win the flag risk free in the current landscape
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on October 10, 2014, 10:50:05 PM
Roos wanted to give up jetta and Rohan for martin

Martin is good but not that good

Roos iisn't the messiah

Jetta's just a hack with pace (though I don't mind hacks with pace - they're the best kind of hacks to have.)  Rohan has talent but let's face it , if he played for Richmond, commentators would be joking about his "Rohan moments".
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tiger101 on October 10, 2014, 10:51:00 PM
Surprised the dee's would trade him out. If his foot comes right and doesn't have pressure on him he could still develop into a good player.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 10, 2014, 11:06:45 PM
Jeez uz only bad can come from this
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 10, 2014, 11:07:22 PM
In the right environment he could realise those talents that had  every recruiter in the country tagging him either 1 or two top junior . Melb has held him back with poor development and injuries. At Tigerland with talent abounding and all the resource in the world, he could become the midfield ace we desperately need to compliment our dream team in the pivot of cotch and Milesy . Get it done  :clapping
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 10, 2014, 11:08:26 PM
In the right environment he could realise those talents that had  every recruiter in the country tagging him either 1 or two top junior . Melb has held him back with poor development and injuries. At Tigerland with talent abounding and all the resource in the world, he could become the midfield ace we desperately need to compliment our dream team in the pivot of cotch and Milesy . Get it done  :clapping
:shh
Any idea what Melbourne FC's resources are like ?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 11, 2014, 12:29:24 AM
In the right environment he could realise those talents that had  every recruiter in the country tagging him either 1 or two top junior . Melb has held him back with poor development and injuries. At Tigerland with talent abounding and all the resource in the world, he could become the midfield ace we desperately need to compliment our dream team in the pivot of cotch and Milesy . Get it done  :clapping
bloody hell. you know if i actually thought you believed what you typed id be concerned. but assuming other wise continue on old son.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 11, 2014, 12:40:37 AM
Dan Richo had everyone thinking that we were going after a broken down Lada in Jason Winderlich, even went on radio an lied about it to the masses making them think we were going to pick up that drug addicted spud,,, WRONG, while Richo has been playing the media on a break, FJ has been panning for gold deep in the cesspool that is Melbourne Fc  :shh getting his man,,,, pretty shrewd pickup by the tigers, i like it,,,, a lott ,, AGAIN :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 11, 2014, 01:01:28 AM
In the right environment he could realise those talents that had  every recruiter in the country tagging him either 1 or two top junior . Melb has held him back with poor development and injuries. At Tigerland with talent abounding and all the resource in the world, he could become the midfield ace we desperately need to compliment our dream team in the pivot of cotch and Milesy . Get it done  :clapping
hmm lets see the totally inept melbourne environment that pulled our pants this yr to the slightly less inept richmond environment. i feel sorry for the poor bugger. stay at melb and be damned. move to the tiges and be slightly less damned. hhhaaarrrggghhhhh.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 11, 2014, 01:04:24 AM
In the right environment he could realise those talents that had  every recruiter in the country tagging him either 1 or two top junior . Melb has held him back with poor development and injuries. At Tigerland with talent abounding and all the resource in the world, he could become the midfield ace we desperately need to compliment our dream team in the pivot of cotch and Milesy . Get it done  :clapping
hmm lets see the totally inept melbourne environment that pulled our pants this yr to the slightly less inept richmond environment. i feel sorry for the poor bugger. stay at melb and be damned. move to the tiges and be slightly less damned. hhhaaarrrggghhhhh.
Yeah, move to the tigers win some games and play finals football  ::) no difference
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 11, 2014, 01:09:35 AM
In the right environment he could realise those talents that had  every recruiter in the country tagging him either 1 or two top junior . Melb has held him back with poor development and injuries. At Tigerland with talent abounding and all the resource in the world, he could become the midfield ace we desperately need to compliment our dream team in the pivot of cotch and Milesy . Get it done  :clapping
hmm lets see the totally inept melbourne environment that pulled our pants this yr to the slightly less inept richmond environment. i feel sorry for the poor bugger. stay at melb and be damned. move to the tiges and be slightly less damned. hhhaaarrrggghhhhh.
Yeah, move to the tigers win some games and play finals football  ::) no difference
ah the million dollar question will they play finals next yr.  not if the trend is correct. ;)
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 11, 2014, 01:13:28 AM
Dan Richo had everyone thinking that we were going after a broken down Lada in Jason Winderlich, even went on radio an lied about it to the masses making them think we were going to pick up that drug addicted spud,,, WRONG, while Richo has been playing the media on a break, FJ has been panning for gold deep in the cesspool that is Melbourne Fc  :shh getting his man,,,, pretty shrewd pickup by the tigers, i like it,,,, a lott ,, AGAIN :shh
hhhhaaarrggh or if we are gunna spin  stories. maybe he got so desperate to do a trade he threw up pick 12 for a bloke with a serious foot injury that could be career threatening and the same bloke has a 5 yr career record to date that is not worthy of giving up pick 12.  oh i love how the blind follow the flute of the rfc piper.
never thinking just following.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 11, 2014, 01:37:05 AM
Dan Richo had everyone thinking that we were going after a broken down Lada in Jason Winderlich, even went on radio an lied about it to the masses making them think we were going to pick up that drug addicted spud,,, WRONG, while Richo has been playing the media on a break, FJ has been panning for gold deep in the cesspool that is Melbourne Fc  :shh getting his man,,,, pretty shrewd pickup by the tigers, i like it,,,, a lott ,, AGAIN :shh
hhhhaaarrggh or if we are gunna spin  stories. maybe he got so desperate to do a trade he threw up pick 12 for a bloke with a serious foot injury that could be career threatening and the same bloke has a 5 yr career record to date that is not worthy of giving up pick 12.  oh i love how the blind follow the flute of the rfc piper.
never thinking just following.
Will bump when deal pays off :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 11, 2014, 01:50:59 AM
but hes slower than treacle
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: MintOnLamb on October 11, 2014, 04:50:31 AM
Have said it themselves, they want to improve their list, how could it improve ours? Trengove is a good bloke and knights needs a rehabilitation partner.
A must pass.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tony_montana on October 11, 2014, 06:21:40 AM
Still limping, won't start training till Xmas.
Had surgery in April. To ybb, how would they medically assess his foot?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on October 11, 2014, 06:45:30 AM
In the right environment he could realise those talents that had  every recruiter in the country tagging him either 1 or two top junior . Melb has held him back with poor development and injuries. At Tigerland with talent abounding and all the resource in the world, he could become the midfield ace we desperately need to compliment our dream team in the pivot of cotch and Milesy . Get it done  :clapping
hmm lets see the totally inept melbourne environment that pulled our pants this yr to the slightly less inept richmond environment. i feel sorry for the poor bugger. stay at melb and be damned. move to the tiges and be slightly less damned. hhhaaarrrggghhhhh.
Yeah, move to the tigers win some games and play finals football  ::) no difference
ah the million dollar question will they play finals next yr.  not if the trend is correct. ;)

Keep saying it you will be right one year eventually
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on October 11, 2014, 06:52:28 AM
He's played 80 games in 5 seasons since being drafted. Of the 30 games he's missed since he started, 20 were this year.
If he's foot can be rehabilitated then he's otherwise fine body wise.
He's a quality young man and body permitting a fine, emerging mid fielder who would benefit from support in the mid field.
People on this forum wanted a Garlett, Cooney, a completely unproven o'rourke - under the principle of calculated risk this is no different.
I'd like us to do a seperate trade to get another lowish 2nd rounder or high 1st rounder but like the thinking here.
I'm hoping our medicos know what they're doing but a rehabbed navicular isn't without precedent.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 11, 2014, 08:42:07 AM
ah the million dollar question will they play finals next yr.  not if the trend is correct. ;)

What is the particular trend you are referring to? Here's another. We've won 10 of our last 11 games. Based on that, we will win 20 from 22 next year and finish top.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Simonator on October 11, 2014, 09:04:37 AM
No. from what i've seen he has no heart. not the kinda player we want, especially from that melbourne culture.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 11, 2014, 10:14:20 AM
can they do foot transplants these days. wheres OER'S online doc when you need him?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 11, 2014, 10:29:02 AM
Still limping, won't start training till Xmas.
Had surgery in April. To ybb, how would they medically assess his foot?
not true hes ready to go now
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Gigantor on October 11, 2014, 10:46:55 AM
Theres such a fine line between failure and success.One player can sometimes make the world of difference ,look at what Miles did to our on ball stocks when he came in.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 11, 2014, 11:10:23 AM
Still limping, won't start training till Xmas.
Had surgery in April. To ybb, how would they medically assess his foot?
If he is still limping he is finished.
Their assessment should involve clinical examination, xrays and bone scans. Even an MRI would be useful. Hopefully our medical department will do all of these things before they give him the all clear.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 11, 2014, 11:14:07 AM
In the right environment he could realise those talents that had  every recruiter in the country tagging him either 1 or two top junior . Melb has held him back with poor development and injuries. At Tigerland with talent abounding and all the resource in the world, he could become the midfield ace we desperately need to compliment our dream team in the pivot of cotch and Milesy . Get it done  :clapping
:shh
Any idea what Melbourne FC's resources are like ?
mitch Clarke didn't rate them :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 11, 2014, 11:15:46 AM
In the right environment he could realise those talents that had  every recruiter in the country tagging him either 1 or two top junior . Melb has held him back with poor development and injuries. At Tigerland with talent abounding and all the resource in the world, he could become the midfield ace we desperately need to compliment our dream team in the pivot of cotch and Milesy . Get it done  :clapping
hmm lets see the totally inept melbourne environment that pulled our pants this yr to the slightly less inept richmond environment. i feel sorry for the poor bugger. stay at melb and be damned. move to the tiges and be slightly less damned. hhhaaarrrggghhhhh.
you idiot....again  :lol
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 11, 2014, 11:56:35 AM

Grimes.  Astbury.  Morris. 
Lennon.  ARance.  Deledio. 
Conca.  Trengrove.  Ellis
Martin.  Griffiths.  Cotchin. 
SEdwards.  Mcbean.  Reiwodlt. 

Maric.  Vlastuin.  Miles. 


Houli/Foley/MDea/Lloyd/gordon
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 11, 2014, 12:59:47 PM

Grimes.  Astbury.  Morris. 
Lennon.  ARance.  Deledio. 
Conca.  Trengrove.  Ellis
Martin.  Griffiths.  Cotchin. 
SEdwards.  Mcbean.  Reiwodlt. 

Maric.  Vlastuin.  Miles. 


Houli/Foley/MDea/Lloyd/gordon

Don't forget Cocka
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 11, 2014, 01:03:59 PM

Grimes.  Astbury.  Morris. 
Lennon.  ARance.  Deledio. 
Conca.  Trengrove.  Ellis
Martin.  Griffiths.  Cotchin. 
SEdwards.  Mcbean.  Reiwodlt. 

Maric.  Vlastuin.  Miles. 


Houli/Foley/MDea/Lloyd/gordon

Don't forget Cocka

Gets houlis spot
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 11, 2014, 01:38:17 PM
Dan Richo had everyone thinking that we were going after a broken down Lada in Jason Winderlich, even went on radio an lied about it to the masses making them think we were going to pick up that drug addicted spud,,, WRONG, while Richo has been playing the media on a break, FJ has been panning for gold deep in the cesspool that is Melbourne Fc  :shh getting his man,,,, pretty shrewd pickup by the tigers, i like it,,,, a lott ,, AGAIN :shh
hhhhaaarrggh or if we are gunna spin  stories. maybe he got so desperate to do a trade he threw up pick 12 for a bloke with a serious foot injury that could be career threatening and the same bloke has a 5 yr career record to date that is not worthy of giving up pick 12.  oh i love how the blind follow the flute of the rfc piper.
never thinking just following.
Will bump when deal pays off :shh
oh you think im against the deal. im undecided and instead of going geez its jack trengove he was a number two pick 6 yrs ago its worth doing the deal. i look and try to see the negatives as well.
do you remember a bloke called shaun hampson, we gave up pick 28 for him. well its not just trnngoves injury that is a concern his performances are not that great overall decent is how i would put it.
. im seriously asking and weighing up if hes worth pick 12 based on performances to date, just like i asked the same thing about hampson. im asking myself what kid could possibly be there that will maybe serve us better and is worth pick 12.
then i look at our recent past and the lack of nd picks on juniors and ask is it wise to trade out of the first rnd of the nd after so many yrs of compromised drafts and taking so few kids.

its a tough decision weighing up risk v reward.
 usually with a pick around 12 your asking yourself which kid  is better than good and could be hopefully vry good to elite. failure with this pick should not come into it though it does happen now and again.
with trengove we are weighing up a boom or bust scenario with injury, plus  we have a 5 yr afl window to judge if he will become very good to elite.nothing in his performances suggests that. to me solid citizen is what i see and stats and kpis over the last 5 yrs  back it up.he is talented though and the teaser is its possible this could get better.

all im suggesting is rather than jumping in and going wowee trengove was a pick 2 we have to get him,  weigh everything up instead. once a player is drafted where he was taken is irrelevant, they live or die on the backs of their performances. im just not sure his performances coupled with his foot warrants pick 12. and i worry about our participation in the nd to top this off.




Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 11, 2014, 01:41:47 PM
Dan Richo had everyone thinking that we were going after a broken down Lada in Jason Winderlich, even went on radio an lied about it to the masses making them think we were going to pick up that drug addicted spud,,, WRONG, while Richo has been playing the media on a break, FJ has been panning for gold deep in the cesspool that is Melbourne Fc  :shh getting his man,,,, pretty shrewd pickup by the tigers, i like it,,,, a lott ,, AGAIN :shh
hhhhaaarrggh or if we are gunna spin  stories. maybe he got so desperate to do a trade he threw up pick 12 for a bloke with a serious foot injury that could be career threatening and the same bloke has a 5 yr career record to date that is not worthy of giving up pick 12.  oh i love how the blind follow the flute of the rfc piper.
never thinking just following.
Will bump when deal pays off :shh
oh you think im against the deal. im undecided and instead of going geez its jack trengove he was a number two pick 6 yrs ago its worth doing the deal. i look and try to see the negatives as well.
do you remember a bloke called shaun hampson, we gave up pick 28 for him. well its not just trnngoves injury that is a concern his performances are not that great overall decent is how i would put it.
. im seriously asking and weighing up if hes worth pick 12 based on performances to date.. im asking myself what kid could possibly be there that will maybe serve us better and is worth pick 12.
then i look at our recent past and the lack of nd picks and ask is it wise to trade out of the first rnd of the nd after so many yrs of compromised drafts and taking so few kids.

its a tough decision weighing up risk v reward.
 usually with a pick around 12 your asking yourself which kid  is better than good and could be hopefully vry good to elite. failure with this pick should not come into it though it does happen now and again.
with trengove we are weighing up a boom or bust scenario with injury, plus  we have a 5 yr afl window to judge if he will become very good to elite.nothing in his performances suggests that. to me solid citizen is what i see and stats and kpis over the last 5 yrs  back it up.he is talented though and the teaser is its possible this could get better.

all im suggesting is rather than jumping in and going wowee trengove was a pick 2 we have to get him,  weigh everything up instead. once a player is drafted where he was taken is irrelevant, they live or die on the backs of their performances. im just not sure his performances coupled with his foot warrants pick 12. and i worry about our participation in the nd to top this off.

hhaarrghh hhhaaarrrggghhhh hhhhhaaarrrggghhh  its golden. trengove is not even a tiger yet but hes suddenly a champion.
thank god for tiger supporters.



---

oh you think im against the deal. im undecided and instead of going geez its jack trengove

Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 11, 2014, 01:42:35 PM
Dan Richo had everyone thinking that we were going after a broken down Lada in Jason Winderlich, even went on radio an lied about it to the masses making them think we were going to pick up that drug addicted spud,,, WRONG, while Richo has been playing the media on a break, FJ has been panning for gold deep in the cesspool that is Melbourne Fc  :shh getting his man,,,, pretty shrewd pickup by the tigers, i like it,,,, a lott ,, AGAIN :shh
hhhhaaarrggh or if we are gunna spin  stories. maybe he got so desperate to do a trade he threw up pick 12 for a bloke with a serious foot injury that could be career threatening and the same bloke has a 5 yr career record to date that is not worthy of giving up pick 12.  oh i love how the blind follow the flute of the rfc piper.
never thinking just following.
Will bump when deal pays off :shh
oh you think im against the deal. im undecided and instead of going geez its jack trengove he was a number two pick 6 yrs ago its worth doing the deal. i look and try to see the negatives as well.
do you remember a bloke called shaun hampson, we gave up pick 28 for him. well its not just trnngoves injury that is a concern his performances are not that great overall decent is how i would put it.
. im seriously asking and weighing up if hes worth pick 12 based on performances to date, just like i asked the same thing about hampson. im asking myself what kid could possibly be there that will maybe serve us better and is worth pick 12.
then i look at our recent past and the lack of nd picks on juniors and ask is it wise to trade out of the first rnd of the nd after so many yrs of compromised drafts and taking so few kids.

its a tough decision weighing up risk v reward.
 usually with a pick around 12 your asking yourself which kid  is better than good and could be hopefully vry good to elite. failure with this pick should not come into it though it does happen now and again.
with trengove we are weighing up a boom or bust scenario with injury, plus  we have a 5 yr afl window to judge if he will become very good to elite.nothing in his performances suggests that. to me solid citizen is what i see and stats and kpis over the last 5 yrs  back it up.he is talented though and the teaser is its possible this could get better.

all im suggesting is rather than jumping in and going wowee trengove was a pick 2 we have to get him,  weigh everything up instead. once a player is drafted where he was taken is irrelevant, they live or die on the backs of their performances. im just not sure his performances coupled with his foot warrants pick 12. and i worry about our participation in the nd to top this off.
FJ will nail pick 23 anyway, don't worry about that  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 11, 2014, 02:03:28 PM
He's played 80 games in 5 seasons since being drafted. Of the 30 games he's missed since he started, 20 were this year.
If he's foot can be rehabilitated then he's otherwise fine body wise.
He's a quality young man and body permitting a fine, emerging mid fielder who would benefit from support in the mid field.
People on this forum wanted a Garlett, Cooney, a completely unproven o'rourke - under the principle of calculated risk this is no different.
I'd like us to do a seperate trade to get another lowish 2nd rounder or high 1st rounder but like the thinking here.
I'm hoping our medicos know what they're doing but a rehabbed navicular isn't without precedent.
but is he a quality young footballer with a track record that warrants the use of pick12????. unlike kids in the draft he has a record that we can judge him by at the top level.

Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 11, 2014, 02:09:35 PM
Dan Richo had everyone thinking that we were going after a broken down Lada in Jason Winderlich, even went on radio an lied about it to the masses making them think we were going to pick up that drug addicted spud,,, WRONG, while Richo has been playing the media on a break, FJ has been panning for gold deep in the cesspool that is Melbourne Fc  :shh getting his man,,,, pretty shrewd pickup by the tigers, i like it,,,, a lott ,, AGAIN :shh
hhhhaaarrggh or if we are gunna spin  stories. maybe he got so desperate to do a trade he threw up pick 12 for a bloke with a serious foot injury that could be career threatening and the same bloke has a 5 yr career record to date that is not worthy of giving up pick 12.  oh i love how the blind follow the flute of the rfc piper.
never thinking just following.
Will bump when deal pays off :shh
oh you think im against the deal. im undecided and instead of going geez its jack trengove he was a number two pick 6 yrs ago its worth doing the deal. i look and try to see the negatives as well.
do you remember a bloke called shaun hampson, we gave up pick 28 for him. well its not just trnngoves injury that is a concern his performances are not that great overall decent is how i would put it.
. im seriously asking and weighing up if hes worth pick 12 based on performances to date, just like i asked the same thing about hampson. im asking myself what kid could possibly be there that will maybe serve us better and is worth pick 12.
then i look at our recent past and the lack of nd picks on juniors and ask is it wise to trade out of the first rnd of the nd after so many yrs of compromised drafts and taking so few kids.

its a tough decision weighing up risk v reward.
 usually with a pick around 12 your asking yourself which kid  is better than good and could be hopefully vry good to elite. failure with this pick should not come into it though it does happen now and again.
with trengove we are weighing up a boom or bust scenario with injury, plus  we have a 5 yr afl window to judge if he will become very good to elite.nothing in his performances suggests that. to me solid citizen is what i see and stats and kpis over the last 5 yrs  back it up.he is talented though and the teaser is its possible this could get better.

all im suggesting is rather than jumping in and going wowee trengove was a pick 2 we have to get him,  weigh everything up instead. once a player is drafted where he was taken is irrelevant, they live or die on the backs of their performances. im just not sure his performances coupled with his foot warrants pick 12. and i worry about our participation in the nd to top this off.
FJ will nail pick 23 anyway, don't worry about that  :shh
gotta love the blind faith of the eternal optimist.. hasnt got one right past pick 18 in 9 yrs  but then again i suppose if he goes to the well often enough hes bound to get one right. lets hope its this yr eh it may need to be. ;)
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 11, 2014, 02:41:03 PM
Dan Richo had everyone thinking that we were going after a broken down Lada in Jason Winderlich, even went on radio an lied about it to the masses making them think we were going to pick up that drug addicted spud,,, WRONG, while Richo has been playing the media on a break, FJ has been panning for gold deep in the cesspool that is Melbourne Fc  :shh getting his man,,,, pretty shrewd pickup by the tigers, i like it,,,, a lott ,, AGAIN :shh
hhhhaaarrggh or if we are gunna spin  stories. maybe he got so desperate to do a trade he threw up pick 12 for a bloke with a serious foot injury that could be career threatening and the same bloke has a 5 yr career record to date that is not worthy of giving up pick 12.  oh i love how the blind follow the flute of the rfc piper.
never thinking just following.
Will bump when deal pays off :shh
oh you think im against the deal. im undecided and instead of going geez its jack trengove he was a number two pick 6 yrs ago its worth doing the deal. i look and try to see the negatives as well.
do you remember a bloke called shaun hampson, we gave up pick 28 for him. well its not just trnngoves injury that is a concern his performances are not that great overall decent is how i would put it.
. im seriously asking and weighing up if hes worth pick 12 based on performances to date, just like i asked the same thing about hampson. im asking myself what kid could possibly be there that will maybe serve us better and is worth pick 12.
then i look at our recent past and the lack of nd picks on juniors and ask is it wise to trade out of the first rnd of the nd after so many yrs of compromised drafts and taking so few kids.

its a tough decision weighing up risk v reward.
 usually with a pick around 12 your asking yourself which kid  is better than good and could be hopefully vry good to elite. failure with this pick should not come into it though it does happen now and again.
with trengove we are weighing up a boom or bust scenario with injury, plus  we have a 5 yr afl window to judge if he will become very good to elite.nothing in his performances suggests that. to me solid citizen is what i see and stats and kpis over the last 5 yrs  back it up.he is talented though and the teaser is its possible this could get better.

all im suggesting is rather than jumping in and going wowee trengove was a pick 2 we have to get him,  weigh everything up instead. once a player is drafted where he was taken is irrelevant, they live or die on the backs of their performances. im just not sure his performances coupled with his foot warrants pick 12. and i worry about our participation in the nd to top this off.
FJ will nail pick 23 anyway, don't worry about that  :shh
gotta love the blind faith of the eternal optimist.. hasnt got one right past pick 18 in 9 yrs  but then again i suppose if he goes to the well often enough hes bound to get one right. lets hope its this yr eh it may need to be. ;)
He's sending up Bo claw. :lol
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 11, 2014, 03:09:13 PM
Dan Richo had everyone thinking that we were going after a broken down Lada in Jason Winderlich, even went on radio an lied about it to the masses making them think we were going to pick up that drug addicted spud,,, WRONG, while Richo has been playing the media on a break, FJ has been panning for gold deep in the cesspool that is Melbourne Fc  :shh getting his man,,,, pretty shrewd pickup by the tigers, i like it,,,, a lott ,, AGAIN :shh
hhhhaaarrggh or if we are gunna spin  stories. maybe he got so desperate to do a trade he threw up pick 12 for a bloke with a serious foot injury that could be career threatening and the same bloke has a 5 yr career record to date that is not worthy of giving up pick 12.  oh i love how the blind follow the flute of the rfc piper.
never thinking just following.
Will bump when deal pays off :shh
oh you think im against the deal. im undecided and instead of going geez its jack trengove he was a number two pick 6 yrs ago its worth doing the deal. i look and try to see the negatives as well.
do you remember a bloke called shaun hampson, we gave up pick 28 for him. well its not just trnngoves injury that is a concern his performances are not that great overall decent is how i would put it.
. im seriously asking and weighing up if hes worth pick 12 based on performances to date, just like i asked the same thing about hampson. im asking myself what kid could possibly be there that will maybe serve us better and is worth pick 12.
then i look at our recent past and the lack of nd picks on juniors and ask is it wise to trade out of the first rnd of the nd after so many yrs of compromised drafts and taking so few kids.

its a tough decision weighing up risk v reward.
 usually with a pick around 12 your asking yourself which kid  is better than good and could be hopefully vry good to elite. failure with this pick should not come into it though it does happen now and again.
with trengove we are weighing up a boom or bust scenario with injury, plus  we have a 5 yr afl window to judge if he will become very good to elite.nothing in his performances suggests that. to me solid citizen is what i see and stats and kpis over the last 5 yrs  back it up.he is talented though and the teaser is its possible this could get better.

all im suggesting is rather than jumping in and going wowee trengove was a pick 2 we have to get him,  weigh everything up instead. once a player is drafted where he was taken is irrelevant, they live or die on the backs of their performances. im just not sure his performances coupled with his foot warrants pick 12. and i worry about our participation in the nd to top this off.
FJ will nail pick 23 anyway, don't worry about that  :shh
gotta love the blind faith of the eternal optimist.. hasnt got one right past pick 18 in 9 yrs  but then again i suppose if he goes to the well often enough hes bound to get one right. lets hope its this yr eh it may need to be. ;)
He's sending up Bo claw. :lol
as in taking the pee, sheesh my aplogies if so.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 11, 2014, 03:11:06 PM
as in taking the pee, sheesh my aplogies if so.

Yep  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 11, 2014, 03:11:48 PM
Not sending up anybody
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 11, 2014, 03:12:15 PM
Not sending up anybody
Sure Phil! :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 11, 2014, 04:41:54 PM
Dan Richo had everyone thinking that we were going after a broken down Lada in Jason Winderlich, even went on radio an lied about it to the masses making them think we were going to pick up that drug addicted spud,,, WRONG, while Richo has been playing the media on a break, FJ has been panning for gold deep in the cesspool that is Melbourne Fc  :shh getting his man,,,, pretty shrewd pickup by the tigers, i like it,,,, a lott ,, AGAIN :shh
hhhhaaarrggh or if we are gunna spin  stories. maybe he got so desperate to do a trade he threw up pick 12 for a bloke with a serious foot injury that could be career threatening and the same bloke has a 5 yr career record to date that is not worthy of giving up pick 12.  oh i love how the blind follow the flute of the rfc piper.
never thinking just following.
Will bump when deal pays off :shh
oh you think im against the deal. im undecided and instead of going geez its jack trengove he was a number two pick 6 yrs ago its worth doing the deal. i look and try to see the negatives as well.
do you remember a bloke called shaun hampson, we gave up pick 28 for him. well its not just trnngoves injury that is a concern his performances are not that great overall decent is how i would put it.
. im seriously asking and weighing up if hes worth pick 12 based on performances to date, just like i asked the same thing about hampson. im asking myself what kid could possibly be there that will maybe serve us better and is worth pick 12.
then i look at our recent past and the lack of nd picks on juniors and ask is it wise to trade out of the first rnd of the nd after so many yrs of compromised drafts and taking so few kids.

its a tough decision weighing up risk v reward.
 usually with a pick around 12 your asking yourself which kid  is better than good and could be hopefully vry good to elite. failure with this pick should not come into it though it does happen now and again.
with trengove we are weighing up a boom or bust scenario with injury, plus  we have a 5 yr afl window to judge if he will become very good to elite.nothing in his performances suggests that. to me solid citizen is what i see and stats and kpis over the last 5 yrs  back it up.he is talented though and the teaser is its possible this could get better.

all im suggesting is rather than jumping in and going wowee trengove was a pick 2 we have to get him,  weigh everything up instead. once a player is drafted where he was taken is irrelevant, they live or die on the backs of their performances. im just not sure his performances coupled with his foot warrants pick 12. and i worry about our participation in the nd to top this off.
FJ will nail pick 23 anyway, don't worry about that  :shh
Exactly,  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 11, 2014, 04:48:09 PM
Dan Richo had everyone thinking that we were going after a broken down Lada in Jason Winderlich, even went on radio an lied about it to the masses making them think we were going to pick up that drug addicted spud,,, WRONG, while Richo has been playing the media on a break, FJ has been panning for gold deep in the cesspool that is Melbourne Fc  :shh getting his man,,,, pretty shrewd pickup by the tigers, i like it,,,, a lott ,, AGAIN :shh
hhhhaaarrggh or if we are gunna spin  stories. maybe he got so desperate to do a trade he threw up pick 12 for a bloke with a serious foot injury that could be career threatening and the same bloke has a 5 yr career record to date that is not worthy of giving up pick 12.  oh i love how the blind follow the flute of the rfc piper.
never thinking just following.
Will bump when deal pays off :shh
oh you think im against the deal. im undecided and instead of going geez its jack trengove he was a number two pick 6 yrs ago its worth doing the deal. i look and try to see the negatives as well.
do you remember a bloke called shaun hampson, we gave up pick 28 for him. well its not just trnngoves injury that is a concern his performances are not that great overall decent is how i would put it.
. im seriously asking and weighing up if hes worth pick 12 based on performances to date, just like i asked the same thing about hampson. im asking myself what kid could possibly be there that will maybe serve us better and is worth pick 12.
then i look at our recent past and the lack of nd picks on juniors and ask is it wise to trade out of the first rnd of the nd after so many yrs of compromised drafts and taking so few kids.

its a tough decision weighing up risk v reward.
 usually with a pick around 12 your asking yourself which kid  is better than good and could be hopefully vry good to elite. failure with this pick should not come into it though it does happen now and again.
with trengove we are weighing up a boom or bust scenario with injury, plus  we have a 5 yr afl window to judge if he will become very good to elite.nothing in his performances suggests that. to me solid citizen is what i see and stats and kpis over the last 5 yrs  back it up.he is talented though and the teaser is its possible this could get better.

all im suggesting is rather than jumping in and going wowee trengove was a pick 2 we have to get him,  weigh everything up instead. once a player is drafted where he was taken is irrelevant, they live or die on the backs of their performances. im just not sure his performances coupled with his foot warrants pick 12. and i worry about our participation in the nd to top this off.
FJ will nail pick 23 anyway, don't worry about that  :shh
Exactly,  :shh
Exhibit A, your Honour!  :lol
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 11, 2014, 04:54:46 PM
 :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 11, 2014, 06:06:19 PM
Rumors deal is done are circulating. :whistle
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on October 11, 2014, 06:08:10 PM
Inb4 meltdown
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tony_montana on October 11, 2014, 06:10:19 PM
You know what? If it is and they have done their due diligence on the injury then good on them for going for it. Trengove (fit) and pick 23 should be better than 12 in theory anyway.

I've heard McDonough back to Adelaide on the cards
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 11, 2014, 06:44:32 PM
You know what? If it is and they have done their due diligence on the injury then good on them for going for it. Trengove (fit) and pick 23 should be better than 12 in theory anyway.

I've heard McDonough back to Adelaide on the cards

After giving it consideration and taking everything into account if our doctors have passed him in terms of his navicular then I am supportive. We needed to get another inside midfielder to take some heat of the likes of Miles and Cotchin. If we get 23 as well then the risk reward is on our side, if his foot doesn't hold up then we have to hope 23 comes through and plays senior footy. So its a thumbs up from me if its gone through  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 11, 2014, 06:55:49 PM
Leah's a catch either the Tigers. Get Trengove but give away a great young prospect in Matthew Mcdougnhon
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Willy on October 11, 2014, 07:21:40 PM
I'm with you Ramps.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 11, 2014, 07:30:14 PM
You know what? If it is and they have done their due diligence on the injury then good on them for going for it. Trengove (fit) and pick 23 should be better than 12 in theory anyway.

I've heard McDonough back to Adelaide on the cards
you know what im close to that as well.im undecided if its a good or bad thing. i think what sways me to not wanting him is being out of the first rnd in the first uncompromised draft in yrs.especially after what we did last yr.
 im just pointing out to everyone some pros and cons here. its always funny to see the reactions when the cons are mentioned though.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 11, 2014, 07:30:30 PM
Done deal!

Tregove isn't interested in moving back to Adelaide. Clubs just determining which (if any) late picks will be involved. Our 3rd for their 4th has been mentioned.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jack-trengove-to-the-tigers.1079715/page-19#post-35650828
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 11, 2014, 07:35:28 PM
This guy did alright post a fractured navicular tarsal bone  ;)  ;D.



Jordan Will Miss 6 Weeks
Tests Show `Irreplaceable` Bull Has Fractured Foot
By Bob Sakamoto
Chicage Tribune
November 05, 1985


The worst possible scenario for the Chicago Bulls, their greatest fear, became a cruel reality Monday when X-rays revealed that Michael Jordan, the heart and soul of this up-and-coming franchise, has a fractured bone in his left foot and will be out for at least six weeks.

A CAT scan revealed Jordan has a fractured navicular tarsal bone, which will leave him in a cast for six weeks. Jordan broke the bone just before halftime of the Oct. 29 game at Golden State. Jordan sailed to the basket but jammed his foot into the court after completing the move. X-rays at the time revealed no broken bones, but the CAT scan, which X-rays the bone in layers, uncovered the fracture.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-11-05/sports/8503160399_1_bulls-success-cat-scan-bone
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 11, 2014, 08:02:31 PM
Richo had a car crash broken foot , with a five star recuperation program he was back playing A grade football in no time . All comes down to quality resources
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on October 11, 2014, 08:04:31 PM
Not overly happy, last year we were out of the second round and this year out of the first for a footballer I believe lacks mongrel.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 11, 2014, 10:06:04 PM
Not overly happy, last year we were out of the second round and this year out of the first for a footballer I believe lacks mongrel.
Wasn't lacking mongrel when he was done for a sling tackle 3 week penalty  ::)
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 11, 2014, 10:18:39 PM
Latest rumour is he failed his medical.

Pick 12 for Motlop anyone?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 11, 2014, 10:23:51 PM
Latest rumour is he failed his medical.

Then it's a done deal then  ;D

Richo had a car crash broken foot , with a five star recuperation program he was back playing A grade football in no time . All comes down to quality resources

 :facepalm

That's a foolish statement even for you, ridiculous actually
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 11, 2014, 10:25:39 PM
Latest rumour is he failed his medical.

Then it's a done deal then  ;D

:lol
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 11, 2014, 10:30:14 PM
Sorry. Just heard that rumour is possibly false.  OMG. People are texting me by the minute……

Sorry about the confusion.  Will not post again on this subject until  I can verify authenticity of information.

Apologies again.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tiga on October 11, 2014, 10:37:20 PM
Sorry. Just heard that rumour is possibly false.  OMG. People are texting me by the minute……

Sorry about the confusion.  Will not post again on this subject until  I can verify authenticity of information.

Apologies again.
Yeah I read that too. Seems someone of Adelaide stock could be trolling.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 11, 2014, 10:39:13 PM
Sorry. Just heard that rumour is possibly false.  OMG. People are texting me by the minute……

Sorry about the confusion.  Will not post again on this subject until  I can verify authenticity of information.

Apologies again.

I hope your not like this with your patients Doc.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 11, 2014, 10:41:49 PM
Latest rumour is he failed his medical.

Then it's a done deal then  ;D

Richo had a car crash broken foot , with a five star recuperation program he was back playing A grade football in no time . All comes down to quality resources

 :facepalm

That's a foolish statement even for you, ridiculous actually
why
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 11, 2014, 10:50:26 PM
Sorry. Just heard that rumour is possibly false.  OMG. People are texting me by the minute……

Sorry about the confusion.  Will not post again on this subject until  I can verify authenticity of information.

Apologies again.

I hope your not like this with your patients Doc.
Haha.
No Ramps.  None of my patients ever get me as worked up as the tiges can!!! ;D
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 11, 2014, 10:57:17 PM
YBB is a patient, a mental patient  :shh

,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 11, 2014, 11:07:03 PM
YBB is a patient, a mental patient  :shh

,,,,,,,,
Don't you hear the same voices as I do Phil?
I'm sure you do!  Voices that keep saying FJ will weave his magic in the draft etc etc.
The voice sounds remarkably like Bo's though……. :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 11, 2014, 11:11:57 PM
YBB is a patient, a mental patient  :shh

,,,,,,,,
Don't you hear the same voices as I do Phil?
I'm sure you do!  Voices that keep saying FJ will weave his magic in the draft etc etc.
The voice sounds remarkably like Bo's though……. :shh
hang on, are you the other tigers supporter from mont park  :shh we were in together in 93
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 11, 2014, 11:17:26 PM
YBB is a patient, a mental patient  :shh

,,,,,,,,
Don't you hear the same voices as I do Phil?
I'm sure you do!  Voices that keep saying FJ will weave his magic in the draft etc etc.
The voice sounds remarkably like Bo's though……. :shh
hang on, are you the other tigers supporter from mont park  :shh we were in together in 93

Is that you mate!  Wow I never thought I'd catch up with you again!
Remember that guy that set himself on fire whilst having tin foil on his head?  Hahaha, he said he thought he was skylab undergoing re-entry into the atmosphere!!!!!
Best year of my life in Mont Park! The beds were lumpy but the drugs were good! ;D
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 11, 2014, 11:18:44 PM
YBB is a patient, a mental patient  :shh

,,,,,,,,
Don't you hear the same voices as I do Phil?
I'm sure you do!  Voices that keep saying FJ will weave his magic in the draft etc etc.
The voice sounds remarkably like Bo's though……. :shh
hang on, are you the other tigers supporter from mont park  :shh we were in together in 93

Is that you mate!  Wow I never thought I'd catch up with you again!
Remember that guy that set himself on fire whilst having tin foil on his head?  Hahaha, he said he thought he was skylab undergoing re-entry into the atmosphere!!!!!
Best year of my life in Mont Park! The beds were lumpy but the drugs were good! ;D
pm sent
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 12, 2014, 02:06:36 AM
Latest rumour is he failed his medical.

Pick 12 for Motlop anyone?

Would prefer Christianson but beggera cannot be choosers
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 12, 2014, 02:41:18 AM
From today's Age

The Tigers remain interested in Melbourne midfielder Jack Trengove, although there is still work to be done before any deal can be done. Trengove would need to pick the Tigers - he has also attracted interest from Adelaide - while finances also need to be sorted.

If a deal with Richmond is done, the Tigers would also receive the Demons' pick 23. The Demons, in return, would receive the Tigers' first-round selection, pick 12.

The Crows could give up their first pick - No.10 overall - but this would mean ceding their highest pick since being banned from the first two rounds of the national draft in 2012 and 2013 because of the Kurt Tippett sanctions.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/new-name-emerges-in-dayne-beams-deal-as-trades-heat-up-20141011-114s3k.html
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 12, 2014, 03:55:44 AM
The failed medical test rumour came from the main trading board on BF:

Quote from: local
Word is Richmond will pass up the trade now.
Medical report wasn't a positive out come.

...

I know someone with strong connections, not at RFC but another club interested in him.  [ed. claims this person is an Adelaide board member]

They've got told from someone at Richmond that while his foot issue is manageable it will only get worse with wearing and tear playing AFL. He'll could really start struggling after 2-3 years.

Shame

...

They [ed. alleged Adelaide board member & his friend at Richmond] use to play together at the same club.
Like I said, they [ed. Adelaide] are consider doing their own medical check.

Quote from: Tiger71
Full of poo. Hows the weather in Adelaide ? I know 100% the medical was intensive and complete in its thoroughness. Why go on a board to lie? its quite pathetic. He has toured our facility's and even went as far as endurance/burst and kicking testing after the doc's cleared his scans. We are super confident if he agrees to come across and melbourne are still happy to trade him to us, we will take him.

If you seriously think we just walked up to melbourne on friday, well, i have 3 unicorns to sell you.

Quote from: local
Yes, I do live in Adelaide. 2 years now. Thank you for asking. :)
But I can tell you it didn't go well.
Big pass by us.
Lets wait till Monday and see what happens.

Quote from: Tiger71
Bookmarked. You "source" is either lieing to make a fool of you, or you are making this up. Some of us who post here know the odd player. I can tell you, 100% what you have said about Trengrove's foot etc is all rubbish.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jack-trengove-to-tigerland.1079710/page-6

Quote from: Tiger71
Got this information from a player who i happened to chat with today. Trengrove had a complete and intensive medical. If he comes across he will do a full pre season.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-discussion-2014-part-ii-current-picks-12-33-52.1079644/page-15#post-35654897
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 12, 2014, 12:11:55 PM
I hope Adelaide give away #10 for him
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 12, 2014, 07:36:56 PM
I hope Adelaide give away #10 for him
You idiot , are you so punch drunk you actually fear success  ::)
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: The Big Richo on October 12, 2014, 07:39:05 PM
Massive risk to give up pick 12 for someone who is returning from a navicular fracture.

Massive, massive risk.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Willy on October 12, 2014, 08:40:25 PM
Massive risk to give up pick 12 for someone who is returning from a navicular fracture.

Massive, massive risk.
The alleged deal would see us get their pick 23 also, TBR. So it's more like losing 11 places in the draft, as opposed to 'giving up pick 12'.

A risk, yes. But so is going to the draft... It's all risky. I think this is one worth taking.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 12, 2014, 09:28:12 PM
What number was vlossy when we got him? Could we pick up another like him instead?
These are the pickups that will make our future, from the sounds of it he doesnt even want to come
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 12, 2014, 10:05:26 PM
Massive risk to give up pick 12 for someone who is returning from a navicular fracture.

Massive, massive risk.
The alleged deal would see us get their pick 23 also, TBR. So it's more like losing 11 places in the draft, as opposed to 'giving up pick 12'.

A risk, yes. But so is going to the draft... It's all risky. I think this is one worth taking.
can i ask you willy. with pick 12 what are you looking for in a mid in the nd?????does trengove to date meet those expectations?????
its not just the injury we need to be looking at.
some people may write of pick 12 as a risk anyway i dont buy into that. pick 12 is an opportunity to get our hands on a very good to elite player, no more no less. so i guess based on the information we have will trengove be a very good to elite player coupled with will he over come his navicular.
hes a hard one because hes going to at least be decent we know that hes there now. but i dont see anything to support after 5 yrs in the system to say hes going to be consistently very good or elite.

i know trengove still has potential but we have  5 yrs of performance to look at when judging him.\ and i suppose for me thats the problem.
my gut tells me he could be very good possibly elite  but my brain my eyes the stats his performances to date  is saying maybe not.

after 5 yrs what sort of performance level backed up with stats are you looking for?????

for a mid of his size and type where is a realistic level he should be at. while on size its a bug bear with me. hes too sml and imo he needs more size so he can do the inside role his junior potential said he could do. imo he plays at least 5kd undewr what he needs to do the role expected. the sad thing is hes failed to gain size at all in 5 yrs. thats just one concern.

look rather than go into another long winded post that will just have most tune out i ask we look at his performances to date and ask have theyu been good enough to warrant we use pick 12 to get him.
 he was drafted as an inside out side mid good footy brain and very good skills. whe should for a bloke of his type and size be close to his potential and certainly clicked by now.
some key stats overall combined with the  attributes that has us interested in him.

attributes and potential the reason we are interested.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Andyy on October 12, 2014, 10:27:48 PM
An important factor for me is the Melbourne FC factor.

Does he look average because his side is always being smashed?

Would he be more effective in a better team?

And how bad is the psychological damage of playing for such an average club in his crucial development years?

Captaincy clearly didn't do him any good either.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Willy on October 12, 2014, 10:45:06 PM
Massive risk to give up pick 12 for someone who is returning from a navicular fracture.

Massive, massive risk.
The alleged deal would see us get their pick 23 also, TBR. So it's more like losing 11 places in the draft, as opposed to 'giving up pick 12'.

A risk, yes. But so is going to the draft... It's all risky. I think this is one worth taking.
can i ask you willy. with pick 12 what are you looking for in a mid in the nd?????does trengove to date meet those expectations?????
its not just the injury we need to be looking at.
some people may write of pick 12 as a risk anyway i dont buy into that. pick 12 is an opportunity to get our hands on a very good to elite player, no more no less. so i guess based on the information we have will trengove be a very good to elite player coupled with will he over come his navicular.
hes a hard one because hes going to at least be decent we know that hes there now. but i dont see anything to support after 5 yrs in the system to say hes going to be consistently very good or elite.

i know trengove still has potential but we have  5 yrs of performance to look at when judging him.\ and i suppose for me thats the problem.
my gut tells me he could be very good possibly elite  but my brain my eyes the stats his performances to date  is saying maybe not.

after 5 yrs what sort of performance level backed up with stats are you looking for?????

for a mid of his size and type where is a realistic level he should be at. while on size its a bug bear with me. hes too sml and imo he needs more size so he can do the inside role his junior potential said he could do. imo he plays at least 5kd undewr what he needs to do the role expected. the sad thing is hes failed to gain size at all in 5 yrs. thats just one concern.

look rather than go into another long winded post that will just have most tune out i ask we look at his performances to date and ask have theyu been good enough to warrant we use pick 12 to get him.
 he was drafted as an inside out side mid good footy brain and very good skills. whe should for a bloke of his type and size be close to his potential and certainly clicked by now.
some key stats overall combined with the  attributes that has us interested in him.

attributes and potential the reason we are interested.

No, the clincher with me is that we get pick 23 too. I wouldn't do the trade without it.
Long story short, I think his performance is worth a fall of 11 places in a draft that is supposedly deep with midfield talent. Before he got lumped with the captaincy of a basket case and injuries set in, he looked a very good player. I think he could really flourish in our good midfield.

I don't want to debate semantics here but the draft  by nature is a risk Claw, no matter how you spin it. To say otherwise would mean it's an exact science with no chance of fail, which we all no isn't true. To choose one player  over another is a risk. Richmond fans, of all people, know this.

Actually, I thought that this would be one trade you would support.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on October 12, 2014, 11:48:20 PM
I just don't see the logic in this.
Not like he was carving things up in the AFL prior to his injury concerns.
He might end up being a reasonable contributor but don't expect too much.
Hasn't proven anything at the elite level yet and at 23 the clock is well ticking.
Lets use 12 to land a great young player.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Tommy on October 13, 2014, 12:46:34 AM
I just don't see the logic in this.
Not like he was carving things up in the AFL prior to his injury concerns.
He might end up being a reasonable contributor but don't expect too much.
Hasn't proven anything at the elite level yet and at 23 the clock is well ticking.
Lets use 12 to land a great young player.

What, like Lennon, last year.

Get real, 12 is a gamble.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2014, 02:59:11 AM
Melbourne is now exploring a deal put by Richmond for Jack Trengove, which requires them to give pick 23 and Trengove to the Tigers for pick 12. This would torpedo the Magpies' chances of securing pick 23 for Lumumba.

Adelaide has also expressed interest in Trengove and it is understood the former Melbourne captain and number two draft pick, who is contracted player for next year at Melbourne, was weighing up his options at the family home in Naracoorte this weekend.

Richmond has already done some preliminary medical examination of Trengove but was due to undertake further tests this week.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/sweetener-on-table-to-seal-dayne-beams-move-to-brisbane-20141012-115149.html#ixzz3FwlnbLlS


Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2014, 03:03:43 AM
Adelaide’s interest in Trengove returning home may have been short lived.

The Crows are now likely to retain their first-round national draft selection and use it to recruit a key-position teenager in next month’s national draft.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/cats-star-joins-the-lions-midfield/story-fnca0u4y-1227088217266
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on October 13, 2014, 06:25:28 AM
I just don't see the logic in this.
Not like he was carving things up in the AFL prior to his injury concerns.
He might end up being a reasonable contributor but don't expect too much.
Hasn't proven anything at the elite level yet and at 23 the clock is well ticking.
Lets use 12 to land a great young player.

What, like Lennon, last year.

Get real, 12 is a gamble.

Are you saying Lennon is a failure ?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 13, 2014, 08:00:25 AM
Adelaide only interseted after Richo let it all out
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 13, 2014, 08:05:37 AM
FO harryo

FO Adelaide
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tony_montana on October 13, 2014, 08:12:08 AM
Melbourne is now exploring a deal put by Richmond for Jack Trengove, which requires them to give pick 23 and Trengove to the Tigers for pick 12. This would torpedo the Magpies' chances of securing pick 23 for Lumumba.

Adelaide has also expressed interest in Trengove and it is understood the former Melbourne captain and number two draft pick, who is contracted player for next year at Melbourne, was weighing up his options at the family home in Naracoorte this weekend.

Richmond has already done some preliminary medical examination of Trengove but was due to undertake further tests this week.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/sweetener-on-table-to-seal-dayne-beams-move-to-brisbane-20141012-115149.html#ixzz3FwlnbLlS

This makes no sense - he's either had a medical or he hasn't - surely you don't do preliminary tests - do the deal then do extensive tests?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 13, 2014, 08:20:48 AM
Its makes sense.Medical can takes more than one day. Is. Its not beyond the realms of possibility he's done part one and yet to do part two

You would hope the club is attempting to anticipate how his body will hold up in the future.

50 million pound transfers in soccer get cancled depending on medical results. One would hope rfc don't f it up given the history ala cogs
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: scjhammo on October 13, 2014, 08:48:18 AM
 :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead Y WOULD WE BE CHASING THIS KID HE PLAYED TWO GAMES THIS YEAR INJURY PRON... IF WE WERE GOING TO OFFER MAYBE A SECOND OR THIRD ROUND PICK ETC OK AND HO[PE FOR THE BEST BUT PLEASE OUR FIRST ROUND SELECTION ON A PLAYER WHO WE DONT EVEN KNOW WILL MAKE IT BACK ON THE GROUND... AND PEOPLE THOUGHT MITCH ROBINSON WAS A RISK AT LEAST MITCH PLAYS WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT DONT DO THE TRADE TIGERS WASTE AND NOT GOOD FOR THE CLUB :thumbsup
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on October 13, 2014, 08:58:26 AM
so many posts that dont seem to take into account that the proposed deal downgrades our first pick, not just lose it.

when you look at it this way;

You know what? If it is and they have done their due diligence on the injury then good on them for going for it. Trengove (fit) and pick 23 should be better than 12 in theory anyway.

the prospect seems ok.

i would be interested in what those against think of tony's comments

Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Willy on October 13, 2014, 09:17:47 AM
I just don't see the logic in this.
Not like he was carving things up in the AFL prior to his injury concerns.
He might end up being a reasonable contributor but don't expect too much.
Hasn't proven anything at the elite level yet and at 23 the clock is well ticking.
Lets use 12 to land a great young player.

He was very good in his second season.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 13, 2014, 09:18:21 AM
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead Y WOULD WE BE CHASING THIS KID HE PLAYED TWO GAMES THIS YEAR INJURY PRON... IF WE WERE GOING TO OFFER MAYBE A SECOND OR THIRD ROUND PICK ETC OK AND HO[PE FOR THE BEST BUT PLEASE OUR FIRST ROUND SELECTION ON A PLAYER WHO WE DONT EVEN KNOW WILL MAKE IT BACK ON THE GROUND... AND PEOPLE THOUGHT MITCH ROBINSON WAS A RISK AT LEAST MITCH PLAYS WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT DONT DO THE TRADE TIGERS WASTE AND NOT GOOD FOR THE CLUB :thumbsup

Shutup

How many games did he play prior to this years injury?  ::)
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: scjhammo on October 13, 2014, 09:37:04 AM
yeah well he wasn't injured then was he mate so use common sense ur risking someone who played two games with a foot he isn't even running at the moment so he is still a long way off..... if you want trades and new players I think we should be targeting someone that is sound and right to go...


How many games he play prior to being injured that comment isn't even relevant u look at the year that just past, that's like saying gee how good was vickerys games  2013 last year at the g round 2 against the saints when he took about 13-14 marks and busted packs li :thumbsupving in the past
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 13, 2014, 09:38:51 AM
yeah well he wasn't injured then was he mate so use common sense ur risking someone who played two games with a foot he isn't even running at the moment so he is still a long way off..... if you want trades and new players I think we should be targeting someone that is sound and right to go...


How many games he play prior to being injured that comment isn't even relevant u look at the year that just past, that's like saying gee how good was vickerys games  2013 last year at the g round 2 against the saints when he took about 13-14 marks and busted packs li :thumbsupving in the past

He is running...........
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: scjhammo on October 13, 2014, 10:39:20 AM
his running yeah about as fast as my granma who is 90...... :o
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Go Richo 12 on October 13, 2014, 10:48:39 AM
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead Y WOULD WE BE CHASING THIS KID HE PLAYED TWO GAMES THIS YEAR INJURY PRON... IF WE WERE GOING TO OFFER MAYBE A SECOND OR THIRD ROUND PICK ETC OK AND HO[PE FOR THE BEST BUT PLEASE OUR FIRST ROUND SELECTION ON A PLAYER WHO WE DONT EVEN KNOW WILL MAKE IT BACK ON THE GROUND... AND PEOPLE THOUGHT MITCH ROBINSON WAS A RISK AT LEAST MITCH PLAYS WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT DONT DO THE TRADE TIGERS WASTE AND NOT GOOD FOR THE CLUB :thumbsup

How many games has pick 12 played? None.
How many games can you guarantee pick 12 plays? None.
Pick 12 carries just as much risk.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: scjhammo on October 13, 2014, 11:21:20 AM
just like tambling instead of buddy I guess, foria instead of pav and our list goes on and on and on.... I m sick wasting picks on unskilled footabllers.. sure ur right how many will he play but for a player that has been in the system hasn't really offered Melbourne much lets be honest and we have said from day one we want speed well unless they have planted a new leg on trengrove he isn't the quickest mover
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 13, 2014, 11:31:34 AM
just like tambling instead of buddy I guess, foria instead of pav and our list goes on and on and on.... I m sick wasting picks on unskilled footabllers.. sure ur right how many will he play but for a player that has been in the system hasn't really offered Melbourne much lets be honest and we have said from day one we want speed well unless they have planted a new leg on trengrove he isn't the quickest mover
It all depends on his recovery from injury. Before his stress fractures, which were before his navicular fracture, he was reasonably quick, especially in the mind, where it counts.
His 20m sprint time was 2.97sec which is ok.

For me, the medical is the clincher.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2014, 12:30:20 PM
Anthony Hudson just said on SEN that the Trengove deal could be done today. It all depends on how the medical goes.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on October 13, 2014, 01:12:55 PM
Anthony Hudson just said on SEN that the Trengove deal could be done today. It all depends on how the medical goes.

If it's going to be done, it has to be done today.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: dwaino on October 13, 2014, 01:14:03 PM
Inb4 north try swooping on another loose chip.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: taztiger4 on October 13, 2014, 01:16:48 PM
Anthony Hudson just said on SEN that the Trengove deal could be done today. It all depends on how the medical goes.

If it's going to be done, it has to be done today.

Why ?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2014, 01:23:55 PM
Anthony Hudson just said on SEN that the Trengove deal could be done today. It all depends on how the medical goes.

If it's going to be done, it has to be done today.

Why ?
Diocletian, the trade period finishes at the end of this week, not today.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: taztiger4 on October 13, 2014, 01:27:50 PM
Anthony Hudson just said on SEN that the Trengove deal could be done today. It all depends on how the medical goes.

If it's going to be done, it has to be done today.

Why ?
Diocletian, the trade period finishes at the end of this week, not today.
Actually finishes Thursday, 2pm IIRC
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: eliminator on October 13, 2014, 01:30:14 PM
The critical question is whether Trengrove would be a better player for us than the player we would have drafted at pick 12. There are question marks over Trengrove's leg speed and his ability to win contested possession. Believe the risks in recruiting him outweigh the advantages.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
Sam Landsberger and Sam Edmund said just before on their live podcast that there's a rumour floating around that the Trengove deal could be come a 3 way deal involving Conca & West Coast:

Richmond - gains pick 11 & Trengove for Conca & pick 12.

Melbourne - gains pick 12 for Trengove and pick 23.

West Coast - gains Conca & pick 23 for pick 11
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 13, 2014, 01:45:26 PM
Sam Landsberger and Sam Edmund said just before on their live podcast that there's a rumour floating around that the Trengove deal could be come a 3 way deal involving Conca & West Coast:

Richmond - gains pick 11 & Trengove for picks 12 & 23.

Melbourne - gains pick 12 for Trengove.

West Coast - gains Conca & pick 23 for pick 11

nice
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on October 13, 2014, 01:45:51 PM
Anthony Hudson just said on SEN that the Trengove deal could be done today. It all depends on how the medical goes.

If it's going to be done, it has to be done today.

Why ?
Diocletian, the trade period finishes at the end of this week, not today.
Actually finishes Thursday, 2pm IIRC

Yeah sorry you're right, was thinking of the deadline for free agent offers.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2014, 01:59:23 PM
nice
Sorry, I mucked up the 'outs'. We of course give up Conca & pick 12.

The proposed trade would be:

Richmond - gains pick 11 & Trengove for Conca & pick 12.

Melbourne - gains pick 12 for Trengove and pick 23.

West Coast - gains Conca & pick 23 for pick 11

Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 13, 2014, 02:00:44 PM
nice
Sorry, I mucked up the 'outs'. We of course give up Conca & pick 12.

The proposed trade would be:

Richmond - gains pick 11 & Trengove for Conca & pick 12.

Melbourne - gains pick 12 for Trengove and pick 23.

West Coast - gains Conca & pick 23 for pick 11

west coast win
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Dice on October 13, 2014, 02:15:48 PM
west coast win

I reckon Melbourne wins.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 13, 2014, 02:17:16 PM
west coast win

I reckon Melbourne wins.

everyone wins except us lol
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: blaisee on October 13, 2014, 02:18:24 PM
west coast win

I reckon Melbourne wins.

everyone wins except us lol

and your therapist :thumbsup
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: MintOnLamb on October 13, 2014, 02:25:51 PM
nice
Sorry, I mucked up the 'outs'. We of course give up Conca & pick 12.

The proposed trade would be:

Richmond - gains pick 11 & Trengove for Conca & pick 12.

Melbourne - gains pick 12 for Trengove and pick 23.

West Coast - gains Conca & pick 23 for pick 11
Just to be clear, in this scenario we end up with pick 11? Trengove and no conca. all our other picks remain?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Willy on October 13, 2014, 02:28:05 PM
The critical question is whether Trengrove would be a better player for us than the player we would have drafted at pick 12. There are question marks over Trengrove's leg speed and his ability to win contested possession. Believe the risks in recruiting him outweigh the advantages.

No, if that initial deal were to eventuate, the question would be whether Trengove AND pick 23 would be collectively more influential for the club than pick 12.

Trengove alone for pick 12 is not the alleged deal and it would not be a good one for us.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Smokey on October 13, 2014, 02:49:44 PM
nice
Sorry, I mucked up the 'outs'. We of course give up Conca & pick 12.

The proposed trade would be:

Richmond - gains pick 11 & Trengove for Conca & pick 12.

Melbourne - gains pick 12 for Trengove and pick 23.

West Coast - gains Conca & pick 23 for pick 11
Just to be clear, in this scenario we end up with pick 11? Trengove and no conca. all our other picks remain?

Yep, we lose Conca, gain Trengove and move our first pick up from 12 to 11.

A definite win IF Trengove stays fit.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: MintOnLamb on October 13, 2014, 03:03:16 PM
nice
Sorry, I mucked up the 'outs'. We of course give up Conca & pick 12.

The proposed trade would be:

Richmond - gains pick 11 & Trengove for Conca & pick 12.

Thanks for that. Yep IF he stays fit. I am sure Roosys team are doing all this for a very good reason. But Fit Trengove> Fit Conca, 11>12

Melbourne - gains pick 12 for Trengove and pick 23.

West Coast - gains Conca & pick 23 for pick 11
Just to be clear, in this scenario we end up with pick 11? Trengove and no conca. all our other picks remain?

Yep, we lose Conca, gain Trengove and move our first pick up from 12 to 11.

A definite win IF Trengove stays fit.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: eliminator on October 13, 2014, 03:09:39 PM
The critical question is whether Trengrove would be a better player for us than the player we would have drafted at pick 12. There are question marks over Trengrove's leg speed and his ability to win contested possession. Believe the risks in recruiting him outweigh the advantages.

No, if that initial deal were to eventuate, the question would be whether Trengove AND pick 23 would be collectively more influential for the club than pick 12.

Trengove alone for pick 12 is not the alleged deal and it would not be a good one for us.

It is no point speculating about the terms of any deal. At this point nothing has been made public re: a deal. What I am saying is to give up a first round pick for someone who has not made it yet is a risk regardless of any other draft picks we acquire through any deal.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Willy on October 13, 2014, 03:14:07 PM
With respect, of course it's a bloody risk. So is all drafting and trading.
If you don't want to speculate, why comment on the thread?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: eliminator on October 13, 2014, 03:37:21 PM
With the greatest of respect there are degrees of risk. Of course all drafting and trading carries a risk. It is about minimizing the risk to an acceptable level. What I am saying is that in my opinion drafting Trengrove carries too much risk. The remark about speculation referred to the terms of any deal not in relation to chasing Trengrove.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Willy on October 13, 2014, 04:17:57 PM
With the greatest of respect there are degrees of risk. Of course all drafting and trading carries a risk. It is about minimizing the risk to an acceptable level. What I am saying is that in my opinion drafting Trengrove carries too much risk. The remark about speculation referred to the terms of any deal not in relation to chasing Trengrove.

Fair enough.
Again, for me the clincher is that we get 23 as well. That makes all the difference. I see it as a kind of two for one and therefor less risky than taking  just pick one to the draft.  Tren' IMO will at least be a decent player, perhaps a very good one. Ideally we could get two v. Good players out of it.

I know you say it is speculation but I don't think we would do it for Tren alone so it is relevant to the debate.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Andyy on October 13, 2014, 04:18:11 PM
I approve of this 3 way trade.

We effectively trade Conca for Trengove and a pick upgrade.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on October 13, 2014, 04:21:20 PM
I approve of this 3 way trade.

We effectively trade Conca for Trengove and a pick upgrade.

Agree but would still like us to try and find at least another pick in the 20's from somewhere.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Andyy on October 13, 2014, 04:28:11 PM
I approve of this 3 way trade.

We effectively trade Conca for Trengove and a pick upgrade.

Agree but would still like us to try and find at least another pick in the 20's from somewhere.

Conca + Dean Cox's dignity for WC's pick 11.

12 to Melbourne for Trengove and 23.

Out: Conca
In: 11, 23 and Trengove.


Doneski.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: JP Tiger on October 13, 2014, 05:44:20 PM
Is there some way for us to keep Dean Cox's dignity & still get their pick 11 for Trengove?  Dignity will cost them Shuey as well!    ;D 
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 13, 2014, 05:58:30 PM
west coast win

I reckon Melbourne wins.

everyone wins except us lol

and your therapist :thumbsup

If you want I can make an appointment for you to see her as well, lets be honest about this you need help also Blaisee. Anyone wanting Herritier O'Brien Lumumba aka The Prince to come to Tigerland needs to see a therapist as well.  ;D
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 13, 2014, 07:24:41 PM
west coast win

I reckon Melbourne wins.

everyone wins except us lol

and your therapist :thumbsup

If you want I can make an appointment for you to see her as well, lets be honest about this you need help also Blaisee. Anyone wanting Herritier O'Brien Lumumba aka The Prince to come to Tigerland needs to see a therapist as well.  ;D

Don't be silly Ramps, nobody would ever say they wanted Lumumba at Richmond. Not even Bojo
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 13, 2014, 07:30:15 PM
west coast win

I reckon Melbourne wins.

everyone wins except us lol

and your therapist :thumbsup

If you want I can make an appointment for you to see her as well, lets be honest about this you need help also Blaisee. Anyone wanting Herritier O'Brien Lumumba aka The Prince to come to Tigerland needs to see a therapist as well.  ;D

Don't be silly Ramps, nobody would ever say they wanted Lumumba at Richmond. Not even Bojo

 :lol

Bj didn't but someone else did  :lol
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 13, 2014, 08:31:25 PM
Better than chaplin
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2014, 08:38:59 PM
It is understood there has been no progress in talks between Melbourne and Richmond over a trade involving former Demons captain Jack Trengove.

The potential deal would involve Trengove and the Demons pick No.23 being sent to Punt Road in exchange for the Tigers' first-round selection, No.12 overall.

It is understood talks did not progress over the weekend or on Monday.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-13/trade-wrap-crisp-bit-added
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: pmac21 on October 13, 2014, 08:42:37 PM
Interesting.  Be funny if we didn't make a trade!!
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: torch on October 13, 2014, 08:54:59 PM
It is understood there has been no progress in talks between Melbourne and Richmond over a trade involving former Demons captain Jack Trengove.

The potential deal would involve Trengove and the Demons pick No.23 being sent to Punt Road in exchange for the Tigers' first-round selection, No.12 overall.

It is understood talks did not progress over the weekend or on Monday.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-13/trade-wrap-crisp-bit-added

Is that good or bad?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: JVT on October 13, 2014, 08:57:18 PM
Thursday at 1.30pm it'll go through :P
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 13, 2014, 09:04:44 PM
It is understood there has been no progress in talks between Melbourne and Richmond over a trade involving former Demons captain Jack Trengove.

The potential deal would involve Trengove and the Demons pick No.23 being sent to Punt Road in exchange for the Tigers' first-round selection, No.12 overall.

It is understood talks did not progress over the weekend or on Monday.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-13/trade-wrap-crisp-bit-added
Wasn't it Robert Flower's memorial service today?  Never was going to happen today for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 13, 2014, 09:09:08 PM
Was too good to be true
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 13, 2014, 09:55:23 PM
It is understood there has been no progress in talks between Melbourne and Richmond over a trade involving former Demons captain Jack Trengove.

The potential deal would involve Trengove and the Demons pick No.23 being sent to Punt Road in exchange for the Tigers' first-round selection, No.12 overall.

It is understood talks did not progress over the weekend or on Monday.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-13/trade-wrap-crisp-bit-added
Wasn't it Robert Flower's memorial service today?  Never was going to happen today for obvious reasons.
Precisely, out of respect , we delayed any dialogue until 900Am Tuesday  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 13, 2014, 11:36:49 PM
It is understood there has been no progress in talks between Melbourne and Richmond over a trade involving former Demons captain Jack Trengove.

The potential deal would involve Trengove and the Demons pick No.23 being sent to Punt Road in exchange for the Tigers' first-round selection, No.12 overall.

It is understood talks did not progress over the weekend or on Monday.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-13/trade-wrap-crisp-bit-added
Wasn't it Robert Flower's memorial service today?  Never was going to happen today for obvious reasons.
Precisely, out of respect , we delayed any dialogue until 900Am Tuesday  :shh
Didn't they beat us for Tommy Hafey's passing ? Didn't show us any respect at all :whistle you idiot bo
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 14, 2014, 04:04:18 AM
Nick Bowen on the AFL website said the actual deal hasn't been finalised but both parties have essentially agreed on what it will look like. It's now up to Trengove to decide whether he wants to move. Nick Bowen reckoned his will be at Punt Rd next year.

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-10-13/brazen-bulldogs-nicks-new-home-and-more

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Trengove spent the weekend at home in South Australia considering his options, with the midfielder also fielding interest from Adelaide. Trengove is contracted, and could also choose to stay at Melbourne.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dayne-beams-set-to-join-brisbane-lions-as-blues-try-to-finalise-kristian-jaksch-deal-20141013-115i1d.html#ixzz3G2rNsxsR

The Age article seem to imply that Melbourne is waiting for the Clark-Varcoe-Lumumba deal to be finalised which frees up pick 23 for the Trengove deal to us.

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Unless Trengove gets cold feet overnight this will happen tomorrow [ed. now today].

Trengove has already said no to Adelaide over the weekend, I mean he actually said no (not he doesn't want to move to Adelaide).

I can also confirm any late pick talk has been squashed, despite my inaccuracies in this department.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jack-trengove-to-the-tigers-poll-added.1079715/page-49#post-35691733
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 14, 2014, 10:07:16 AM
Navicular is stuffed. Its not happening.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Willy on October 14, 2014, 10:09:10 AM
Yep. Did it again in the medical. Deal is over.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 14, 2014, 10:12:23 AM
And Pop went the weasel!
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on October 14, 2014, 10:25:06 AM
Delete thread
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: The Big Richo on October 14, 2014, 10:39:15 AM
I'd still trade him for Hampson.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 14, 2014, 10:39:38 AM
poor kid and to you roosy suck on my left foot for trying to pool the wool over our eyes.

To the RFC well done for doing their due dilligence. :clapping

Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 14, 2014, 10:45:43 AM
Well thank god for that, did not want him  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 14, 2014, 10:47:32 AM
Yep. Did it again in the medical. Deal is over.
He did it ages ago, not in our medical. They were trying to ship him off while he was sinking
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 14, 2014, 10:50:56 AM
Our docs did a thorough assessment.

Kudos to them.  :clapping :clapping :clapping

Melbourne tried to sneak one past us. I am not impressed with their behaviour during all of this.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 14, 2014, 10:57:45 AM
Bugger
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: scjhammo on October 14, 2014, 11:01:08 AM
yep well im glad we didn't take the risk like a lot of you good judges on this site wanted... Would have been another wasted selection ..

Well down Richmond medical team :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 14, 2014, 11:04:32 AM
yep well im glad we didn't take the risk like a lot of you good judges on this site wanted... Would have been another wasted selection ..

Well down Richmond medical team :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers

whilst a bullet was dodged here the reality is that with 2 days to go we haven't done one thing in terms of improving the list. Not one.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: scjhammo on October 14, 2014, 11:15:16 AM
correct u are and the scary thing was we were looking at someone who was pretty much shot... what does that say????? the club knows there along way off and like you said have made no real efforts for a club who has played in the finals past 2 years to make that next step... Players want to go to carlton wb stkilda brsbane I haven't seen one young kid come and say I want to play at Richmond... don't no what you read into that...

we have money in our kitty to spend unless next year your tring to get Dangerfield which im hoping make something happen :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 14, 2014, 11:15:56 AM
yep well im glad we didn't take the risk like a lot of you good judges on this site wanted... Would have been another wasted selection ..

Well down Richmond medical team :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers
I don't think anyone was saying they know better than the doctors

Fact remains our list has holes. Our midfield as it is, may not be good enough to win the flag. Too much for too few.

Don't hold your breath on Dangerfield. More change of halie berry wanting to practice peeling a banana with her lips at my house.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 14, 2014, 11:16:25 AM
Hold a minute

poor kid and to you roosy for trying to pool the wool over our eyes.

To the RFC well done for doing their due dilligence. :clapping



"Trying to pull the wool",  :facepalm

Hello news flash we approached Melb, we instigated discussions not the other way around

So please don't accuse the MFC of trying to pull some sort of shifty here.

Both clubs followed due process, the kid failed the medical we've done the right thing (and yes kudos to our medical folks), the Dees have done the right thing time to move on.

Actual feel for the kid, obviously he isn't one of the lucky ones who gets over the navicular in a straight forward fashion. Thank goodness that it flared up again now and not in 3-4 months time after the deal was done.

Would think Conca stays now too  ;D
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 14, 2014, 11:18:39 AM
yep well im glad we didn't take the risk like a lot of you good judges on this site wanted... Would have been another wasted selection ..

Well down Richmond medical team :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers

whilst a bullet was dodged here the reality is that with 2 days to go we haven't done one thing in terms of improving the list. Not one.

This.
The hawks were already well ahead of us this year and then they m1ade some good moves.
Hawks have secured o'rourke and frawley to their team.
Will possibly trade out lowden and shoenmakers and be well compensatdd for them.

I dont want the tigers to make moves just for the sake of it but I genuinely want to see how we are going to bridge the gap.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 14, 2014, 11:20:11 AM
In the words of dimma

Our best players will just have to play better
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on October 14, 2014, 11:28:21 AM
Phew.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 14, 2014, 11:28:34 AM
In the words of dimma

Our best players will just have to play better

 :clapping

 ;D

Pay that Bents
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 14, 2014, 11:35:38 AM
Hold a minute

poor kid and to you roosy for trying to pool the wool over our eyes.

To the RFC well done for doing their due dilligence. :clapping



"Trying to pull the wool",  :facepalm

Hello news flash we approached Melb, we instigated discussions not the other way around

So please don't accuse the MFC of trying to pull some sort of shifty here.

Both clubs followed due process, the kid failed the medical we've done the right thing (and yes kudos to our medical folks), the Dees have done the right thing time to move on.

Actual feel for the kid, obviously he isn't one of the lucky ones who gets over the navicular in a straight forward fashion. Thank goodness that it flared up again now and not in 3-4 months time after the deal was done.

Would think Conca stays now too  ;D

please

stuff roosy and the dees. Never once heard the dees were wanting to keep him like GWS with Boyd.

They knew he is finished and tried to shaft us.

Wake up WP
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on October 14, 2014, 11:39:53 AM
Blessing is that the foot didn't blow again in 6 months time.

Achillies & navicular injuries are notoriously difficult. Best steer clear.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 14, 2014, 11:48:21 AM

They knew he is finished and tried to shaft us.


I don't need to wake up, facts we approached them. That isn't in dispute

They saw a player as expendable and a way to get another first round draft pick. just like we supposedly see Conca.

It hasn't happened, isn't going to happen so who cares

Our club has done their due diligence and found it's not worth proceeding. If you want to spend all your energy concocting conspiracy theories that's your choice but what's the point really?

Unlike you who thought the deal was worth the risk, I was always weary of this deal, navicular injuries are nasty. That fact he was running last week OK and it's flared again now proves it. No guarantees with navicular injuries

As I said its a relief it happened now and not in3-4 months after the deal was done. Because if he had passed the medical the deal would have been done today. And if it flared in 3 months you would be one of the first one here jumping up and down bagging the club about how they had stuffed up again.

We haven't lost anything, we sit where we were this time last week

As I said time to move on
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: The Big Richo on October 14, 2014, 11:49:30 AM
Not one drop of credit should got to anyone at Richmond here.

Staggering incompetence to be evening considering getting him.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 14, 2014, 11:58:30 AM
How is la la land going wp?

Still raining fairyfloss?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 14, 2014, 12:00:25 PM
Jack Trengove stays a Demon after failing medical with Tigers

Peter Ryan 
afl.com.au
October 14, 2014 10:06 AM



THE PROPOSED deal that would have sent Melbourne's Jack Trengove to Richmond has been aborted after he failed a medical examination on Monday.
 
The 23-year-old former skipper's injured foot has not healed as hoped and he faces more rehabilitation with the Demons in the final year of his contract.
 
It is shattering news for the on-baller who was hoping to get a fresh start with the Tigers.
 
The Demons were going to trade him for pick No.12 and give Richmond pick No.23 in return.
 
Trengove played just two games last season after a crack was found in his navicular bone.
 
He has played 81 games with the Demons but has not been able to match the superb form he displayed in his first two seasons.

Melbourne football manager Josh Mahoney said the news that Trengove's navicular fracture had not healed as hoped was shattering.
 
"Jack had been progressing well from his navicular injury from earlier in 2014 with a CT scan eight weeks ago showing significant healing and was given the all-clear from the surgeon to progress to the next phase of his program," Mahoney told melbournefc.com.au.
 
"Jack then gradually increased his loading which included a period of time on the de-load treadmill before two weeks of running outside.

"Unfortunately, Jack experienced some pain in the associated areas around his navicular whilst running. This was considered normal after not running for six months, however further scans on Monday have unfortunately shown further damage to his navicular."
 
Melbourne intends to consult the surgeon for further advice about the treatment of Trengove's injury.

Richmond also released a statement, confirming the club would not pursue its plans to recruit Trengove.

“After doing our due diligence, including discussions with our medical staff, we have decided not to pursue further discussions," said Richmond’s general manager of football, Dan Richardson.

"We wish Jack all the best for his future career.”

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-14/trengove-stays-a-dee
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 14, 2014, 12:04:03 PM
Which way is the knackery?

Take Chaplin with u jack
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: dwaino on October 14, 2014, 12:44:41 PM
But I already put his number on my guernsey.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 14, 2014, 12:48:15 PM
But I already put his number on my guernsey.
That's Cotch's number anyway dwaino so you're ok mate!
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: dwaino on October 14, 2014, 12:50:43 PM
But I already put his number on my guernsey.
That's Cotch's number anyway dwaino so you're ok mate!

Bieber would have had to give up his number. I'll just have to flip it upside for our prestigious number 6  ;D
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 14, 2014, 12:53:41 PM
Jack Trengove has posted this message on facebook ...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=366420220198879
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 14, 2014, 12:58:50 PM

They knew he is finished and tried to shaft us.


I don't need to wake up, facts we approached them. That isn't in dispute

They saw a player as expendable and a way to get another first round draft pick. just like we supposedly see Conca.

It hasn't happened, isn't going to happen so who cares

Our club has done their due diligence and found it's not worth proceeding. If you want to spend all your energy concocting conspiracy theories that's your choice but what's the point really?

Unlike you who thought the deal was worth the risk, I was always weary of this deal, navicular injuries are nasty. That fact he was running last week OK and it's flared again now proves it. No guarantees with navicular injuries

As I said its a relief it happened now and not in3-4 months after the deal was done. Because if he had passed the medical the deal would have been done today. And if it flared in 3 months you would be one of the first one here jumping up and down bagging the club about how they had stuffed up again.

We haven't lost anything, we sit where we were this time last week

As I said time to move on

 WP your right about one thing who cares its done but roosy that shark tried to pull one over us, that cant be disputed. even this piece below suggested they had concerns after he begin running which of course they say was "normal"

I applaud the club for doing their homework. The only issue i have is they may have thrown all their eggs in the trengrove basket

Jack had been progressing well from his navicular injury from earlier in 2014 with a CT scan eight weeks ago showing significant healing and was given the all-clear from the surgeon to progress to the next phase of his program," Mahoney told melbournefc.com.au.
 
"Jack then gradually increased his loading which included a period of time on the de-load treadmill before two weeks of running outside.

"Unfortunately, Jack experienced some pain in the associated areas around his navicular whilst running. This was considered normal after not running for six months, however further scans on Monday have unfortunately shown further damage to his navicular."

Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 14, 2014, 01:03:20 PM
Jon Ralph on SEN - Trengove passed two medicals (CT scans) on Friday but Richmond did another type of scan on Monday and it showed his foot injury had flared up again (most likely as a result of not standing up to the initial medical tests).

If true, you can't knock our thoroughness in testing out the injury.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 14, 2014, 01:10:01 PM
Will still play 15 games with the Dees and we'll be scratching our heads,,,,, AGAIN  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tony_montana on October 14, 2014, 03:55:50 PM
feel for the kid
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: JVT on October 14, 2014, 06:01:14 PM
Disappointing.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on October 14, 2014, 06:15:46 PM
Jon Ralph on SEN - Trengove passed two medicals (CT scans) on Friday but Richmond did another type of scan on Monday and it showed his foot injury had flared up again (most likely as a result of not standing up to the initial medical tests).

If true, you can't knock our thoroughness in testing out the injury.

Thorough work. Just hope the time and effort hasn't cost us a chance with another player.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 14, 2014, 07:26:58 PM
The scan yesterday found another crack in Trengove's navicular bone.

Ch 7 news tonight saying Trengove will now likely be out for the entire 2015 season.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tdy on October 14, 2014, 07:34:30 PM
Our recruiting is so much better than it was. Weve dodged a bullet that would have got us fair n square in thw Wallace or Frawley era.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 14, 2014, 07:40:21 PM
Our recruiting is so much better than it was. Weve dodged a bullet that would have got us fair n square in thw Wallace or Frawley era.

Sorry but the aim of the game is too improve the list. Not recruiting is not success. We have 1 and a half days left in this trade period and the Richmond Football Club has done exactly ZERO in terms of improving the list or our draft position. Don't get sucked in by this supposed great recruiting in not getting in Trengove, it could be easily said that everyone knew he was a risk anyway and that all we did was waste our time when we could have focused on getting others in.

So far we have only gone after average players like Greenwood, Armitage and injured players like Trengove. That's not success, that's called not doing the job properly.

The RFC have 1 and a half Days to save the day. Lets hope they do something decent and don't go adding some hack just like last year when they only recruited Hampson and gave away a 2nd rounder for the privilege.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: dwaino on October 14, 2014, 07:46:31 PM
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Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 14, 2014, 07:51:04 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 14, 2014, 08:03:36 PM
Nothing would get past the RFC medicos these days. LoL at MFC thinking we had a couple of docs straight from the Congo that would fall for the old three card trick ....nice try  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 14, 2014, 08:14:17 PM
Nothing would get past the RFC medicos these days. LoL at MFC thinking we had a couple of docs straight from the Congo that would fall for the old three card trick ....nice try  :shh
you said it was done, and look what happened today, you jinxed it  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 14, 2014, 08:15:41 PM
Nothing would get past the RFC medicos these days. LoL at MFC thinking we had a couple of docs straight from the Congo that would fall for the old three card trick ....nice try  :shh

Is that the Democratic Republic of Congo or Congo Brazzaville? :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on October 14, 2014, 08:23:22 PM
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Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 14, 2014, 08:27:32 PM
Nothing would get past the RFC medicos these days. LoL at MFC thinking we had a couple of docs straight from the Congo that would fall for the old three card trick ....nice try  :shh
you said it was done, and look what happened today, you jinxed it  :shh
I never said it was done ,
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on October 14, 2014, 08:31:20 PM
Nothing would get past the RFC medicos these days. LoL at MFC thinking we had a couple of docs straight from the Congo that would fall for the old three card trick ....nice try  :shh
you said it was done, and look what happened today, you jinxed it  :shh
I never said it was done ,

Yes you did and don't deny it, mail fraud is a serious offense.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 14, 2014, 08:41:13 PM
Nothing would get past the RFC medicos these days. LoL at MFC thinking we had a couple of docs straight from the Congo that would fall for the old three card trick ....nice try  :shh
you said it was done, and look what happened today, you jinxed it  :shh
I never said it was done ,

Yes you did and don't deny it, mail fraud is a serious offense.
:clapping :lol
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 14, 2014, 08:52:57 PM
Nothing would get past the RFC medicos these days. LoL at MFC thinking we had a couple of docs straight from the Congo that would fall for the old three card trick ....nice try  :shh
you said it was done, and look what happened today, you jinxed it  :shh
I never said it was done ,

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Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 14, 2014, 08:56:29 PM
Nothing would get past the RFC medicos these days. LoL at MFC thinking we had a couple of docs straight from the Congo that would fall for the old three card trick ....nice try  :shh
you said it was done, and look what happened today, you jinxed it  :shh
I never said it was done ,

Yes you did and don't deny it, mail fraud is a serious offense.

Treason, infact
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 14, 2014, 09:06:42 PM
Nothing would get past the RFC medicos these days. LoL at MFC thinking we had a couple of docs straight from the Congo that would fall for the old three card trick ....nice try  :shh
you said it was done, and look what happened today, you jinxed it  :shh
Rubbish, I actually had mail that the medical had failed a few days back, was waiting for it to be verified, ...re quote where I said it was done  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 14, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
Nothing would get past the RFC medicos these days. LoL at MFC thinking we had a couple of docs straight from the Congo that would fall for the old three card trick ....nice try  :shh
you said it was done, and look what happened today, you jinxed it  :shh
Rubbish, I actually had mail that the medical had failed a few days back, was waiting for it to be verified, ...re quote where I said it was done  :shh
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Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 14, 2014, 09:26:42 PM
Nothing would get past the RFC medicos these days. LoL at MFC thinking we had a couple of docs straight from the Congo that would fall for the old three card trick ....nice try  :shh
you said it was done, and look what happened today, you jinxed it  :shh
I never said it was done ,
well lookey here, you did say it was done, you said they were just waiting for Robbie Flower's funeral to pass so that they can announce it  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 14, 2014, 09:44:10 PM
Quotes or it didn't happen
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 14, 2014, 10:03:44 PM
It is understood there has been no progress in talks between Melbourne and Richmond over a trade involving former Demons captain Jack Trengove.

The potential deal would involve Trengove and the Demons pick No.23 being sent to Punt Road in exchange for the Tigers' first-round selection, No.12 overall.

It is understood talks did not progress over the weekend or on Monday.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-13/trade-wrap-crisp-bit-added
Wasn't it Robert Flower's memorial service today?  Never was going to happen today for obvious reasons.
Precisely, out of respect , we delayed the announcement until 900Am Tuesday  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 14, 2014, 10:12:34 PM
Poor form Mrakov - why the edit?


Wasn't it Robert Flower's memorial service today?  Never was going to happen today for obvious reasons.
Precisely, out of respect , we delayed any dialogue until 900Am Tuesday :shh




Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 14, 2014, 10:30:39 PM
I'm not sure for the edit, but that aside, for mine the quote clearly implies in response that it wasn't going to happen til Tuesday that it is 'precisely' then that it would happen. The whole :shh emoticon confirms it
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 14, 2014, 10:52:06 PM
Poor form Mrakov - why the edit?


Wasn't it Robert Flower's memorial service today?  Never was going to happen today for obvious reasons.
Precisely, out of respect , we delayed any dialogue until 900Am Tuesday :shh
Ty wp, can apologise at any time for the shameful ambush mrakov , there's no place for lies and deception  :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Owl on October 14, 2014, 10:53:34 PM
That emoticon does confer intimate knowledge or "Mail", it has been established as a 'nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more !' for quite some time and therefor HE IS GUILTY!!!!
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on October 14, 2014, 10:54:21 PM
I'm not sure for the edit, but that aside, for mine the quote clearly implies in response that it wasn't going to happen til Tuesday that it is 'precisely' then that it would happen. The whole :shh emoticon confirms it
Lol emoticon, that's my signature  :lol
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 14, 2014, 11:18:31 PM
I'm not sure for the edit, but that aside, for mine the quote clearly implies in response that it wasn't going to happen til Tuesday that it is 'precisely' then that it would happen. The whole :shh emoticon confirms it
Lol emoticon, that's my signature  :lol
It can't be your signature Bo. If it was, that very line you ran off would have had a  :shh on the end of it rather than a  :lol!
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 14, 2014, 11:19:53 PM
I used it in 2002   :shh
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 15, 2014, 02:31:03 AM
I'm not sure for the edit, but that aside, for mine the quote clearly implies in response that it wasn't going to happen til Tuesday that it is 'precisely' then that it would happen. The whole :shh emoticon confirms it
Lol emoticon, that's my signature  :lol

Maybe just apologise for the confusion and we'll call it evens
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: yellowandback on October 15, 2014, 07:51:38 AM
Page 18 will go down as one of the great exchanges on OER  :thumbsup  :lol
"And I would got away with it too if it weren't for you pesky kids meddling in my business"  ;D
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Owl on October 15, 2014, 10:40:19 AM
Shhh! emoticon isn't a signature it is inviting yourself to be bitch slapped
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 15, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
That emoticon does confer intimate knowledge or "Mail", it has been established as a 'nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more !' for quite some time and therefor HE IS GUILTY!!!!

You wouldn't wanna be a drug runner in Indonesia if Owl was the Judge - straight to the shooting wall for the accused. No trial No Nuffink.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on October 15, 2014, 11:35:36 AM
Page 18 will go down as one of the great exchanges on OER  :thumbsup  :lol
"And I would got away with it too if it weren't for you pesky kids meddling in my business"  ;D

sounds like dastardly dick from wacky races  ;D
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Smokey on October 15, 2014, 11:38:19 AM
Page 18 will go down as one of the great exchanges on OER  :thumbsup  :lol
"And I would got away with it too if it weren't for you pesky kids meddling in my business"  ;D

 :lol :lol   :clapping
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on October 30, 2014, 04:31:09 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-30/trengove-may-sacrifice-2015

LUCKLESS Melbourne midfielder Jack Trengove has full confidence he can return from his latest bout of foot surgery, but he concedes he is unlikely to play in 2015.

Trengove had screws taken out of his troublesome left foot on Wednesday, after it was discovered – during a medical check with Richmond, as the Tigers were pondering a trade for a midfielder – that the foot had not mended properly from the first bout of surgery in April.

Big tick to the RFC club here, even Claw would be proud













Or maybe not
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 30, 2014, 04:35:08 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-30/trengove-may-sacrifice-2015

LUCKLESS Melbourne midfielder Jack Trengove has full confidence he can return from his latest bout of foot surgery, but he concedes he is unlikely to play in 2015.

Trengove had screws taken out of his troublesome left foot on Wednesday, after it was discovered – during a medical check with Richmond, as the Tigers were pondering a trade for a midfielder – that the foot had not mended properly from the first bout of surgery in April.

Big tick to the RFC club here, even Claw would be proud













Or maybe not
should've still got him for pick 80, take a punt
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on October 30, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-30/trengove-may-sacrifice-2015

LUCKLESS Melbourne midfielder Jack Trengove has full confidence he can return from his latest bout of foot surgery, but he concedes he is unlikely to play in 2015.

Trengove had screws taken out of his troublesome left foot on Wednesday, after it was discovered – during a medical check with Richmond, as the Tigers were pondering a trade for a midfielder – that the foot had not mended properly from the first bout of surgery in April.

Big tick to the RFC club here, even Claw would be proud













Or maybe not
should've still got him for pick 80, take a punt

Yeah would have been a good thing to bag the club out on if it didnt work, suppose we just have to hope we drop a few games in the first four next year
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 30, 2014, 05:46:01 PM
Poor form Mrakov - why the edit?


Wasn't it Robert Flower's memorial service today?  Never was going to happen today for obvious reasons.
Precisely, out of respect , we delayed any dialogue until 900Am Tuesday :shh
Ty wp, can apologise at any time for the shameful ambush mrakov , there's no place for lies and deception  :shh
lol. pot kettle black. it aint nice when the shoes on the other foot and its hilarious asking for an apology.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: The Big Richo on October 30, 2014, 08:18:57 PM

Big tick to the RFC club here

I still say the fact they were even considering it is a massive concern.

Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 30, 2014, 09:01:41 PM
well done to the RFC i am very proud the medical team got this right and caught Roos that flog and the demons out trying to bend us over when it was determined he still felt pain after running

To the demons and roos....

Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: camboon on October 31, 2014, 07:28:09 AM
I hope RFC keep in touch with Jack and inquire about his health. He would be good for the club if he wanted to come next year if his foot is roadworthy.

Quality Bloke!
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 31, 2014, 07:38:11 AM
Page 18 will go down as one of the great exchanges on OER  :thumbsup  :lol
"And I would got away with it too if it weren't for you pesky kids meddling in my business"  ;D

I was reminiscing about this the other day, and i must say i look back on this period of our lives with great fondness.

It's a different world today that's for sure.

Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 31, 2014, 09:52:23 AM
I used it in 2002   :shh
:ROTFL
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on June 13, 2016, 04:26:59 PM
Going along pretty well at the moment, including at the minute against the Pies.... did we miss out here... :-\
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on June 13, 2016, 05:32:48 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on June 13, 2016, 05:39:20 PM
No way, we got Yarran......oh,wait......
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: yellowandback on June 13, 2016, 05:59:29 PM
Going along pretty well at the moment, including at the minute against the Pies.... did we miss out here... :-\

I'd be interested to see your posts last year had we picked him up...
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: mat073 on June 13, 2016, 06:39:01 PM
Trengove would of been the 2015 Yarran.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on June 13, 2016, 06:54:57 PM
Going along pretty well at the moment, including at the minute against the Pies.... did we miss out here... :-\

13 disposals yeh stuffing brilliant
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on June 13, 2016, 06:58:57 PM
maybe thats his job?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on June 13, 2016, 08:16:58 PM

I watched the game WAT and he was VERY ordinary. I dont know how you could possibly consider that we should have picked him up based on a half of football.



Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 13, 2016, 08:28:50 PM
  :banghead :banghead

SNIP

Enough with the sniping, trolling and baiting of other posters and then report said posts

Since i got home tonight i have spent close to the last 2 hours editing the nonsense that's been posted since last night

Everyone should be well aware of how many strikes they are on so you'd be aware of the consequences if this baiting, trolling and snipong towards other posters cpntinues.

Not interested in who started it or the finger pointing
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on June 13, 2016, 08:31:51 PM
Did you have a good day?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 13, 2016, 08:33:48 PM
Did you have a good day?

Yes we did

Thank you for asking
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on June 13, 2016, 08:35:25 PM
Did you have a good day?

Yes we did

Thank you for asking

Very good, what do you do? Mine was busy.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tony_montana on June 14, 2016, 09:30:19 AM
happy to see him back playing footy, good bloke. He was very slow pre injury, now he looks pedestrian. Smart player and cracks in but severe lack of pace will ultimately show him up and stop him going on with it
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 14, 2016, 06:57:27 PM
Did you have a good day?

Yes we did

Thank you for asking

Very good, what do you do? Mine was busy.

Wnet spent the day out at Healesville Sanctuary
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on June 14, 2016, 07:10:44 PM
Did you have a good day?

Yes we did

Thank you for asking

Very good, what do you do? Mine was busy.

Wnet spent the day out at Healesville Sanctuary

Well lucky you, sounds great, I spent the day at work.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Yeahright on June 14, 2016, 07:12:42 PM
Stick to the topic
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on June 14, 2016, 09:49:17 PM
 :lol
slurp slurp
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on June 15, 2016, 06:15:05 AM
:lol
slurp slurp

Is it unusual for you to see posters actually being nice to one another without derogatory comments such as "slurp slurp"?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on June 15, 2016, 08:54:21 AM
nope, it's not unusual
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on June 15, 2016, 08:08:33 PM
Anyone who suggests we missed out on something good with Trengove needs to be taken out the back and slapped around
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Owl on June 16, 2016, 08:12:18 AM
Ill do it, I even have a slappin glove.  It is actually a right handed golf glove, nice, supple, protects the skin but doesn't detract from positive elements of the, knuckles and leaves no prints
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on July 01, 2016, 05:38:27 PM
Well despite being a gun and the big fish RFC missed out on  :banghead  :banghead  :banghead Trengove despite his scintillating form has been dropped this week
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 01, 2016, 05:42:17 PM
Well despite being a gun and the big fish RFC missed out on  :banghead  :banghead  :banghead Trengove despite his scintillating form has been dropped this week
It's because he hasn't trained that well Chucky!
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on July 01, 2016, 05:49:23 PM
Well despite being a gun and the big fish RFC missed out on  :banghead  :banghead  :banghead Trengove despite his scintillating form has been dropped this week
It's because he hasn't trained that well Chucky!

Well that would explain it
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 01, 2016, 05:55:04 PM
Well despite being a gun and the big fish RFC missed out on  :banghead  :banghead  :banghead Trengove despite his scintillating form has been dropped this week
It's because he hasn't trained that well Chucky!

Well that would explain it

Surely Trengove and his player manager have some sort of recourse? Word is he was actually training the house down!
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on July 01, 2016, 07:11:28 PM
Well despite being a gun and the big fish RFC missed out on  :banghead  :banghead  :banghead Trengove despite his scintillating form has been dropped this week
It's because he hasn't trained that well Chucky!

Well that would explain it

Surely Trengove and his player manager have some sort of recourse? Word is he was actually training the house down!

Good point he should have a golden ticket to play seniors then
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 01, 2016, 07:25:42 PM
Well despite being a gun and the big fish RFC missed out on  :banghead  :banghead  :banghead Trengove despite his scintillating form has been dropped this week
It's because he hasn't trained that well Chucky!

Well that would explain it

Surely Trengove and his player manager have some sort of recourse? Word is he was actually training the house down!

Good point he should have a golden ticket to play seniors then

Why arent the AFLPA getting involved?
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on September 12, 2017, 09:33:26 PM
Is available.

I wonder if Bents still wants him.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on September 12, 2017, 09:38:46 PM
Is available.

I wonder if Bents still wants him.

Oh and WAT as well was a fan
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tdy on September 13, 2017, 07:08:03 AM
Does make me wonder if he'd gone to a club not in disarray they would have trained better and had a better medical team and his foot wouldn't have been so bad.  Look at Sydney and Tippett. He gets on the park more than Trengrove did and he's been pretty chronic.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 13, 2017, 07:33:56 AM
Delete the thread before the club is tempted to add him as a DFA.
Title: Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on September 13, 2017, 12:25:57 PM
Well it would still at least signify an upward trend on DFA's after Hunt and A. Moore*....



*not an endorement of Trengove