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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on January 23, 2015, 06:55:34 PM
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Lids was interviewed by Ch 7 news down at Pakenham and he was asked what he sees as the next trend in footy. He said from what we're doing and speaking to players at other clubs, footy in 2015 will be "fast".
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Time to bring Bowden out of retirement then
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That's no good cos we are slow as
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Thought "fast footy" started about two years ago or more but was perfected by Port last year???
Did the RFC not get that memo, actually they didn't because that showed in the final against Port.
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Thought "fast footy" started about two years ago or more but was perfected by Port last year???
Did the RFC not get that memo, actually they didn't because that showed in the final against Port.
Obviously we didn't get the memo.
We've just brought a heap of pace into the club and next year it will all be about big bodies and contested footballl! :rollin
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stuff we are a stupid football club
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Thought "fast footy" started about two years ago or more but was perfected by Port last year???
Did the RFC not get that memo, actually they didn't because that showed in the final against Port.
Obviously we didn't get the memo.
We've just brought a heap of pace into the club and next year it will all be about big bodies and contested footballl! :rollin
:lol :thumbsup
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Thank god we drafted Chaplin and Hampson then. Brilliant crystal balling by the club
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Our slowest player to take a free kick or mark is Pettard. By the time he makes a decision the opposition have already flooded back.
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Our slowest player to take a free kick or mark is Pettard. By the time he makes a decision the opposition have already flooded back.
Batch is the same and it kills us coming out of defense. I will give Houli that, at least he takes them on with is run and carry, so does Rance and Grimes.
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That's no good cos we are slow as
well they did try to improve this by bringing in Taylor Hunt as a senior player and some youngsters like Menadue and the Butler. Personally I think Hunt and Menadue will improve the team in this regards.
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Yep I'll say it again, if the players were as willing to move the ball fast and actually run hard like Houli in the final we may have actually put up a fight. Poor guy was the only one trying anything and copped a lot of stuff for it because no one was giving him any options
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Yep I'll say it again, if the players were as willing to move the ball fast and actually run hard like Houli in the final we may have actually put up a fight. Poor guy was the only one trying anything and copped a lot of stuff for it because no one was giving him any options
...and also because he shyte his shorts and showed absolutely no composure whenever he did.
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It makes it easy to run and carry when you are the loose man in defence and not accountable for a player in that final.
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It makes it easy to run and carry when you are the loose man in defence and not accountable for a player in that final.
Makes it hard when no one is willing to run hard and provide options
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Fast footy doesn't just mean moving the ball quickly to break down opposition defences. It also means quickly adjusting on transition from defence to attack and especially from offence to defence. We've struggled with the former due to our forward structure and not having more than one A-grade personnel in our forward 50; while we've struggled with the latter due to have too many mids and flankers not gut running both ways over four quarters. Silly schoolboy turnovers also hurts as there's no time to adjust back to a defence structure and it costs us easy goals.
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Fast footy doesn't just mean moving the ball quickly to break down opposition defences. It also means quickly adjusting on transition from defence to attack and especially from offence to defence. We've struggled with the former due to our forward structure and not having more than one A-grade personnel in our forward 50; while we've struggled with the latter due to have too many mids and flankers not gut running both ways over four quarters. Silly schoolboy turnovers also hurts as there's no time to adjust back to a defence structure and it costs us easy goals.
Well if it means all that we are screwed.. ;D
Cant we just run the ball from one end of the ground to the other really fast and kick it between the biggest posts?? I know that sounds difficult but... :)
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Fast footy doesn't just mean moving the ball quickly to break down opposition defences. It also means quickly adjusting on transition from defence to attack and especially from offence to defence. We've struggled with the former due to our forward structure and not having more than one A-grade personnel in our forward 50; while we've struggled with the latter due to have too many mids and flankers not gut running both ways over four quarters. Silly schoolboy turnovers also hurts as there's no time to adjust back to a defence structure and it costs us easy goals.
What hasn't helped is Hardwicks negative game plan moving the ball into our forward line. Kick the ball deep into the pocket and if we don't mark it force it out of bounds.
If we do mark it the chances of us kicking a goal are poor due to the angle. At some stage Hardwick is going to have be more adventurous and give our forwards half a chance at kicking a winning score.
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Fast footy doesn't just mean moving the ball quickly to break down opposition defences. It also means quickly adjusting on transition from defence to attack and especially from offence to defence. We've struggled with the former due to our forward structure and not having more than one A-grade personnel in our forward 50; while we've struggled with the latter due to have too many mids and flankers not gut running both ways over four quarters. Silly schoolboy turnovers also hurts as there's no time to adjust back to a defence structure and it costs us easy goals.
What hasn't helped is Hardwicks negative game plan moving the ball into our forward line. Kick the ball deep into the pocket and if we don't mark it force it out of bounds.
If we do mark it the chances of us kicking a goal are poor due to the angle. At some stage Hardwick is going to have be more adventurous and give our forwards half a chance at kicking a winning score.
Enter Reece McKenzie. Have him sit in the goal square and claim the most contested marks in the F50 for season 2015 ;)
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Hopefully in 2018 that actually happens :shh
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Fast footy doesn't just mean moving the ball quickly to break down opposition defences. It also means quickly adjusting on transition from defence to attack and especially from offence to defence. We've struggled with the former due to our forward structure and not having more than one A-grade personnel in our forward 50; while we've struggled with the latter due to have too many mids and flankers not gut running both ways over four quarters. Silly schoolboy turnovers also hurts as there's no time to adjust back to a defence structure and it costs us easy goals.
What hasn't helped is Hardwicks negative game plan moving the ball into our forward line. Kick the ball deep into the pocket and if we don't mark it force it out of bounds.
If we do mark it the chances of us kicking a goal are poor due to the angle. At some stage Hardwick is going to have be more adventurous and give our forwards half a chance at kicking a winning score.
Enter Reece McKenzie. Have him sit in the goal square and claim the most contested marks in the F50 for season 2015 ;)
I like this plan Lambie! :thumbsup There's no need for ball movement rocket science - a strong marking stay home full forward is still very hard to beat when you bomb it long to him! ;D
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Offensive year in the AFL #more goals, Speed in transition [is the] #key ---- David King on #Sen 1116 Daniel Harford show
https://twitter.com/WLudbey/with_replies
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Hopefully what this really all means is that Thomarse won't get elevated again....
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Thought "fast footy" started about two years ago or more but was perfected by Port last year???
Did the RFC not get that memo, actually they didn't because that showed in the final against Port.
Lmao.
Right!
Poor Richmond.
When they have to move the ball fast, they stuff it up. Lol.
Seriously tho -fast footy.
Think about the concept for a moment.
It's one dimensional football.
Aussie rules is stuffn dead.
Long live soft pricks taking over.
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Still as good a kicking side as under Wallace
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Leading AFL coaches focus on attacking style after lowest scoring season in about 50 years
Jon Ralph
Herald Sun
February 15, 2015 7:00PM
ATTACK is back, according to the AFL’s leading coaches after the lowest scoring season in nearly half a century.
Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson has forecast an increased focus on attacking tactics this year after years of defensive, low-scoring football.
Clarkson has been at the centre of zone defence like “Clarko’s cluster” but track watchers say clubs have focused all summer on attacking mechanisms.
Only Hawthorn and Port Adelaide averaged above 100 points in last year’s scoring drought, which saw the lowest average scores since 1969.
“I think the competition went to an enormous bent towards defence over the last six or seven years and in the last 12 months clubs have started to work on more offensive strategies, how to break down defensive zones and mechanisms and I still feel like that is the area of our game clubs can improve at. We are hoping to be one of the clubs that can do that,’’ Clarkson said.
His thoughts are echoed by Richmond coach Damien Hardwick, who hopes to lift his side’s scoring after amassing just 85.3 points (ranked 11th) per game.
“I think most sides from what we have seen and what we have heard are practising a lot more offence and speed of offence,’’ Hardwick said.
“The AFL and people want to see more goals and we as a coaching fraternity are the same.
“It is one thing we didn’t do enough of last year, kick big scores. So we have worked on that over the course of the summer and it is something we have identified we have to improve.”
After Sydney and West Coast fought out a pair of gripping but low-scoring finals, Ross Lyon’s press, Mick Malthouse’s swarming “box” and increased fitness of players all led to better defence.
This summer as well as honing defensive strategies, clubs have pushed quick ball movement, long and precise kicking to attacking targets and running with numbers through defensive zones.
They reason if they cannot move the ball quickly from defence they will get trapped, and if they do not practice that movement all summer it falls apart in the season proper.
Hawthorn’s ball movement in the Grand Final was close to perfection, totally neutralising Sydney’s in-and-under warriors who had cut them down in the 2012 Grand Final.
Clarkson says long kicking alone will not lead to high scores, which is why clubs have spent so much time on attacking strategies.
“I think the decision is the key and speed of ball, you want to get it in there quickly but because some teams put numbers back behind the ball, you want to get it in there quick but there is no point going quick if they have overload numbers (back) because it is going to come back with mayonnaise on it,’’ he said.
Champion Data stats show games have lost four goals a per match from their tally since 2008 alone, a sobering figure for a formerly high-scoring game.
Of the last 15 premiers only Sydney in 2005 did not average 100 points, yet St Kilda (67.3 points) and Melbourne (60.7 points) were among ten sides to average less than 90 points last year.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/leading-afl-coaches-focus-on-attacking-style-after-lowest-scoring-season-in-about-50-years/story-e6frf3e3-1227220491518
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The whole industry is akin to a herd of sheep. Absolutely cringe worthy hearing this sort of tripe. Be original and develop strategy and gamestyle yourself instead of this rubbish industry trend talk.
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The whole industry is akin to a herd of sheep. Absolutely cringe worthy hearing this sort of tripe. Be original and develop strategy and gamestyle yourself instead of this rubbish industry trend talk.
TBH I think the coaches were read the riot act after crowds went down last year. This is after all a business. A business whose life blood is the supporter; both the supporter who goes to the game and the one who watches on TV and hence inflates the TV rights price.
They were told they must make the game more attractive or else......
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The whole industry is akin to a herd of sheep. Absolutely cringe worthy hearing this sort of tripe. Be original and develop strategy and gamestyle yourself instead of this rubbish industry trend talk.
TBH I think the coaches were read the riot act after crowds went down last year. This is after all a business. A business whose life blood is the supporter; both the supporter who goes to the game and the one who watches on TV and hence inflates the TV rights price.
They were told they must make the game more attractive or else......
Its not just this time yandbb, every few yrs you hear about the next trend ie flooding, pagans paddock, high press etc etc. You don't need to follow trends, its just reinventing the wheel. Adapt the best style suited to the playing group you're developing and back yourself in. You don't hear managers and industry figures in Europe talking about trends in soccer, managers have their systems and they back it in. Its embarrassing
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The whole industry is akin to a herd of sheep. Absolutely cringe worthy hearing this sort of tripe. Be original and develop strategy and gamestyle yourself instead of this rubbish industry trend talk.
TBH I think the coaches were read the riot act after crowds went down last year. This is after all a business. A business whose life blood is the supporter; both the supporter who goes to the game and the one who watches on TV and hence inflates the TV rights price.
They were told they must make the game more attractive or else......
Its not just this time yandbb, every few yrs you hear about the next trend ie flooding, pagans paddock, high press etc etc. You don't need to follow trends, its just reinventing the wheel. Adapt the best style suited to the playing group you're developing and back yourself in. You don't hear managers and industry figures in Europe talking about trends in soccer, managers have their systems and they back it in. Its embarrassing
True. There is a big difference though and that is the AFL are paranoid about soccer and other sports. They see loss of market share as the beginning of the end. Soccer has no fears. I feel this time they interjected.
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Lids on the Talking Tigers podcast welcoming a return to a more attacking brand of footy this year.
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-03-31/talking-tigers-2015-round-1
* From playing that pre-season game against North Melbourne, we thought we were going okay defensively but before you know it they’ve kicked 100 points and we were the same - we’d kicked 100 points by the end of the game as well. The Port Adelaide-Hawthorn mantra of really capitalising off turnover - I think that’s the way the teams are going to go. You’ll still have your defensive sides but most sides will look to play a fast, exciting brand of footy which is always good for the fans. And I think as players, when you know you’re in for a good game like that, when it’s a bit more open and you’re using your capabilities and abilities, it’s a lot better to play in. When you get the chance to test out your opponent with your speed and endurance that you’ve worked on all this past six months, that’s what you like going into a game; instead of a lockdown, scragging game where there’s a million players around the footy.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-01/deledio-on-the-attack