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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Phil Mrakov on January 24, 2015, 04:14:24 PM
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They lost Ryder but added Giles, Gwilt and Cooney. Do you think they will finish above us and where do you see their list heading in the next few years ? Are we on a better path ?
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Yeah probably but then what. Win a final finish top 4 or get humiliated again like the last 2 yrs
Who knows
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They will go gang busters in the first half and the fall in a big pooheap in the second half of the season
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They lost Ryder but added Giles, Gwilt and Cooney. Do you think they will finish above us and where do you see their list heading in the next few years ? Are we on a better path ?
who cares :rollin
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They lost Ryder but added Giles, Gwilt and Cooney. Do you think they will finish above us and where do you see their list heading in the next few years ? Are we on a better path ?
who cares :rollin
Obviously not you
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Yeah probably but then what. Win a final finish top 4 or get humiliated again like the last 2 yrs
Who knows
Top 4 and straight sets. Double the disappointment and humiliation.
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They lost Ryder but added Giles, Gwilt and Cooney. Do you think they will finish above us and where do you see their list heading in the next few years ? Are we on a better path ?
they did finish above last yr
hmm based on ins and outs id say we did not make up any ground
significant outs
rich- jackson
ess- ryder.
ins
rich - hunt, nd 12, nd 33, nd 52.
ess - gwilt, cooney, giles, nd 17,nd 20.
id say if we want to finish above them we will have to significantly improve from within.
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hmm essendons best 22 imo.
FB/ Fletcher 198/92 39yr/393gms - Hooker 196/97 26yr/111gms - Baguley 180/83 27yr/50gms.
HB/ Hibberd 186/86 25yr/63gms - Hurley 193/93 24yr/100gms - Gwilt 188/96 28yr/126gms.
C/ Zaharakis 182/80 25yr/110 gms - Myers 191/88 25yr/83gms - Stanton 182/84 28yr/226gms.
R/ Belchambers 202/106 25yr/69gms - Watson 190/94 30yr/188gms - heppell 189/82 22yr/84gms
HF/ Goddard 189/93 29yr/247gms - Daniher 201/90 21yr/26gms - Winderlich 188/82 30yr/128gms or ZMerrett 179/75 19yr/20gms
FF/ Chapman 179/87 33yr/271gms - Carlisle 198/98 23yr/68gms - Ambrose 185/90 23yr/16gms. on ambrose listed at 185cm but if hes not at least 190cm ill go heave.
Int/ Hocking 184/87 27yr/119 - Colyer 174/72 23yr/46gms - Howlett 18o/78 26yr/97gms - Cooney 187/88 29yo/219gms.
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Yes
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hmm essendons best 22 imo.
FB/ Fletcher 198/92 39yr/393gms - Hooker 196/97 26yr/111gms - Baguley 180/83 27yr/50gms.
HB/ Hibberd 186/86 25yr/63gms - Hurley 193/93 24yr/100gms - Gwilt 188/96 28yr/126gms.
C/ Zaharakis 182/80 25yr/110 gms - Myers 191/88 25yr/83gms - Stanton 182/84 28yr/226gms.
R/ Belchambers 202/106 25yr/69gms - Watson 190/94 30yr/188gms - heppell 189/82 22yr/84gms
HF/ Goddard 189/93 29yr/247gms - Daniher 201/90 21yr/26gms - Winderlich 188/82 30yr/128gms or ZMerrett 179/75 19yr/20gms
FF/ Chapman 179/87 33yr/271gms - Carlisle 198/98 23yr/68gms - Ambrose 185/90 23yr/16gms. on ambrose listed at 185cm but if hes not at least 190cm ill go heave.
Int/ Hocking 184/87 27yr/119 - Colyer 174/72 23yr/46gms - Howlett 18o/78 26yr/97gms - Cooney 187/88 29yo/219gms.
very very old
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hmm essendons best 22 imo.
FB/ Fletcher 198/92 39yr/393gms - Hooker 196/97 26yr/111gms - Baguley 180/83 27yr/50gms.
HB/ Hibberd 186/86 25yr/63gms - Hurley 193/93 24yr/100gms - Gwilt 188/96 28yr/126gms.
C/ Zaharakis 182/80 25yr/110 gms - Myers 191/88 25yr/83gms - Stanton 182/84 28yr/226gms.
R/ Belchambers 202/106 25yr/69gms - Watson 190/94 30yr/188gms - heppell 189/82 22yr/84gms
HF/ Goddard 189/93 29yr/247gms - Daniher 201/90 21yr/26gms - Winderlich 188/82 30yr/128gms or ZMerrett 179/75 19yr/20gms
FF/ Chapman 179/87 33yr/271gms - Carlisle 198/98 23yr/68gms - Ambrose 185/90 23yr/16gms. on ambrose listed at 185cm but if hes not at least 190cm ill go heave.
Int/ Hocking 184/87 27yr/119 - Colyer 174/72 23yr/46gms - Howlett 18o/78 26yr/97gms - Cooney 187/88 29yo/219gms.
very very old
mature and experienced.if you look at most top 4 sides you will say the same thing. thing is the vets 29 and older in that team are still performing to a decent level.
fletcher does a job every yr and remains durable at 39 ffs.watson is watson and imo doesnt look like hes slowed up at all. i mean inside mid hes not reliant on pace never has.
goddard is 29 but is playing as good as ever when he became a free agent i could not work out why we would not go at him.. winderlich at 30 is a concern for them imo. he may not get a game imo because merrett will probably keep him out.ffs we went after jason. chapman i love i wish we went hard at him he hardly missed a beat last yr. cooney well injuries etc have hurt him but hes probably come of one of his better yrs in yrs.
theres not a lot of vets but there isnt many juniors. it says most have enough games and have reached the right age brackets.
personally i have no problem with 29 plus yr olds i mean look at the quality of these vets and thats the key. even if they drop off a bit they still out perform lesser players.
if geelong had worried about age they would have missed out on two premierships.
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Yes.
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hmm essendons best 22 imo.
FB/ Fletcher 198/92 39yr/393gms - Hooker 196/97 26yr/111gms - Baguley 180/83 27yr/50gms.
HB/ Hibberd 186/86 25yr/63gms - Hurley 193/93 24yr/100gms - Gwilt 188/96 28yr/126gms.
C/ Zaharakis 182/80 25yr/110 gms - Myers 191/88 25yr/83gms - Stanton 182/84 28yr/226gms.
R/ Belchambers 202/106 25yr/69gms - Watson 190/94 30yr/188gms - heppell 189/82 22yr/84gms
HF/ Goddard 189/93 29yr/247gms - Daniher 201/90 21yr/26gms - Winderlich 188/82 30yr/128gms or ZMerrett 179/75 19yr/20gms
FF/ Chapman 179/87 33yr/271gms - Carlisle 198/98 23yr/68gms - Ambrose 185/90 23yr/16gms. on ambrose listed at 185cm but if hes not at least 190cm ill go heave.
Int/ Hocking 184/87 27yr/119 - Colyer 174/72 23yr/46gms - Howlett 18o/78 26yr/97gms - Cooney 187/88 29yo/219gms.
very very old
mature and experienced.if you look at most top 4 sides you will say the same thing. thing is the vets 29 and older in that team are still performing to a decent level.
fletcher does a job every yr and remains durable at 39 ffs.watson is watson and imo doesnt look like hes slowed up at all. i mean inside mid hes not reliant on pace never has.
goddard is 29 but is playing as good as ever when he became a free agent i could not work out why we would not go at him.. winderlich at 30 is a concern for them imo. he may not get a game imo because merrett will probably keep him out.ffs we went after jason. chapman i love i wish we went hard at him he hardly missed a beat last yr. cooney well injuries etc have hurt him but hes probably come of one of his better yrs in yrs.
theres not a lot of vets but there isnt many juniors. it says most have enough games and have reached the right age brackets.
personally i have no problem with 29 plus yr olds i mean look at the quality of these vets and thats the key. even if they drop off a bit they still out perform lesser players.
if geelong had worried about age they would have missed out on two premierships.
You tippin bombres for top 4
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hmm essendons best 22 imo.
FB/ Fletcher 198/92 39yr/393gms - Hooker 196/97 26yr/111gms - Baguley 180/83 27yr/50gms.
HB/ Hibberd 186/86 25yr/63gms - Hurley 193/93 24yr/100gms - Gwilt 188/96 28yr/126gms.
C/ Zaharakis 182/80 25yr/110 gms - Myers 191/88 25yr/83gms - Stanton 182/84 28yr/226gms.
R/ Belchambers 202/106 25yr/69gms - Watson 190/94 30yr/188gms - heppell 189/82 22yr/84gms
HF/ Goddard 189/93 29yr/247gms - Daniher 201/90 21yr/26gms - Winderlich 188/82 30yr/128gms or ZMerrett 179/75 19yr/20gms
FF/ Chapman 179/87 33yr/271gms - Carlisle 198/98 23yr/68gms - Ambrose 185/90 23yr/16gms. on ambrose listed at 185cm but if hes not at least 190cm ill go heave.
Int/ Hocking 184/87 27yr/119 - Colyer 174/72 23yr/46gms - Howlett 18o/78 26yr/97gms - Cooney 187/88 29yo/219gms.
very very old
mature and experienced.if you look at most top 4 sides you will say the same thing. thing is the vets 29 and older in that team are still performing to a decent level.
fletcher does a job every yr and remains durable at 39 ffs.watson is watson and imo doesnt look like hes slowed up at all. i mean inside mid hes not reliant on pace never has.
goddard is 29 but is playing as good as ever when he became a free agent i could not work out why we would not go at him.. winderlich at 30 is a concern for them imo. he may not get a game imo because merrett will probably keep him out.ffs we went after jason. chapman i love i wish we went hard at him he hardly missed a beat last yr. cooney well injuries etc have hurt him but hes probably come of one of his better yrs in yrs.
theres not a lot of vets but there isnt many juniors. it says most have enough games and have reached the right age brackets.
personally i have no problem with 29 plus yr olds i mean look at the quality of these vets and thats the key. even if they drop off a bit they still out perform lesser players.
if geelong had worried about age they would have missed out on two premierships.
You tippin bombres for top 4
nope but i think they will be in the 8 or close to it again.
as far as age and experience with their best 25 or so players goes they should be aiming for top 4. thats just two of the boxes that need to be ticked though.pretty important boxes though.
just look at how much potential sides like gcs and gws have had to date but it hasnt helped them because they lack maturity and experince with too many. i think both clubs are just about ready to make their charges for finals and success though. look at melbourne when they cut out all the experinced blokes they became a rabble. they too have slowly got it back on course and will improve.
we went oiut and got ordinary mature players with games behind them because the lack of experience and maturity found us struggling to even compete.
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They've topped up nicely but it will haunt them in 2+ years time
Top 6 for mine
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They've topped up nicely but it will haunt them in 2+ years time
Top 6 for mine
dooks if their list age is going to hurt them in 2+ yrs time then we are in a similar boat. im only talking age and experience here. no point talking quality because it degenerates from the issue being raised. im sure essendon supporters will argue with our supporters that they have better quality players and vice versa.
Id argue topping up can only hurt you if you ignore juniors and the long term view. Its all about a good balance.
I have broken the age groups into 4 and there is little real difference in the age make up.
juniors 18 - 21
ess 15
rich 16
development 22 - 24
ess 12
rich 12
mature 25 - 28
ess 11
rich 13
vets 29 +
ess 6. fletcher 39, chapman 33, watson 30, winderlich 30, goddard 29, cooney 29. fletcher chapman and winderlich gone at seasons end.
rich 4. newman 32, chaplin 29, foley 29, maric 29. most likely only newman gone at seasons end.
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Disagree old chap.
Yes we will miss Maric but they will miss that older 6 far more than we'll miss our older 4.
Newman - games gone past him.
Chaplin - liability. Would be better playing Astbury and have talls to replace.
Foley - fringe player who can be damaging once or twice a year.
Further, towards their later years Watson, Chapman ,Goddard and Cooney will only get slower. They rely heavily on these players breaking the lines (chapman maybe not so much). But they are play makers.
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Disagree old chap.
Yes we will miss Maric but they will miss that older 6 far more than we'll miss our older 4.
Newman - games gone past him.
Chaplin - liability. Would be better playing Astbury and have talls to replace.
Foley - fringe player who can be damaging once or twice a year.
Further, towards their later years Watson, Chapman ,Goddard and Cooney will only get slower. They rely heavily on these players breaking the lines (chapman maybe not so much). But they are play makers.
yet goddard cooney and chapman are players they got for free almost.cooney aside who is yet to play a game for essendon the other two dont rely on pace to get the ball.with watson as well size and strength and sheer footy smarts dont fade away. watson and goddard could go for another 4 or 5 yrs.
heres a team for you i saw on big footy. its a smorgasboard you only need manage your list well enough to have a chance at one.every yr clubs can fill a need if need be.
b/ frost - patful - lumumba
hb/ cheney - frawley - malceski
c/ cooney - greenwood - griffen
hf/ varcoe - waite - stanley
ff clarke - boyd - garlett
r/ ryder - beams - christenson
int/ crisp- hallahan - orourke - whiley
emg/ biggs - lowden - higgins - jaksch - lowden - gwilt - giles - jones.
ah free agency and the trade climate. essendon will lose fletcher at seasons end and already have a decent replacement for him.
id argue as long as they have enough decent players in the junior and development categories they can just keep on topping up with mature and vet types at little cost.
sydney have done this for yrs as has hawthorn. geelong have had god knows how many vets on their list for yrs and still look a likely top 4 side.
now days there is to much put into clubs dropping dramatically away when their vets retire. good management means you dont have to go to the bottom.
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I actually think the Bombers will finish towards the bottom of the table this year.
Tiges to press for a top 4 birth.
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may as well do side that beat us last yr. a side i admit i thought would do better than they did last yr. i still think they will improve a fair bit. i think both petracca and brayshaw will have very good first seasons being such big bodied kids. what i would consider their best 22 keeping structure and players in positions.
FB: Frost 194/93 21yo/21gms - Dunn 192/98 27yo/139gms - Garland 191/90 26yo/115gms could go sml Jetta 180/82 26YR/57GMS
HB: Grimes 187/82 25yo/86gms - Mcdonald 194/97 22yo/60gms - Lumumba 188/91 28yo/199gms.
C : Vince 186/87 29yo/151gms - Tyson 186/82 21yo/35gms - Trengove 185/87 23yo/81gms.
HF: Howe 190/86 24yo/78gms - Dawes 193/105 26yo/101gms - petracca 186/94 19yo/0gms.
FF: Garlett 180/75 25yr/107gms - Hogan 195/97 20yr/0gms - Pederson 193/96 28yo/45gms
Foll : Jamar 198/101 31yo/150gms - Jones 180/86 27yo/179gms - Viney 178/82 20yo/33gms.
Int: Cross 187/87 32yo/227gms - Brayshaw 187/88 19yo/0gms - Salem 183/81 19yo/12gms - M Jones 188/80 27yo/42gms.
Emg : Kent - Watts - newton - Gawn - kennedy-harris - toumpas.
its not a hopeless 22. it has a reasonable sprinkling of age or experience or both with 13 players aged 25 or more.with a good sprinkling of youth 9 players aged 24 or less with just 4 who have played less than 20 games and they are top end draft picks in brayshaw, petracca, salem, and hogan. good height good structure.ave gms 84 ave age 24.5.
reckon they will surprise a few if injuries etc dont bite into em they have a very good draw. games you would just pencil in as a win are no longer gimmes.
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I actually think the Bombers will finish towards the bottom of the table this year.
Tiges to press for a top 4 birth.
reasons why one will improve and the other drop away. they did finish above us last yr and performed fairly well in their final. they also recruited more mature players than us effectively looking after the now more than us.
be interesting to hear why you think one will drop and the other rise.
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Can't be assed going too deeply into it however I'll break it down.
Essendon - Poor midfield, pathetic ruck division, aging veterans, drug saga, Hird. Heppell their shining light in an ordinary list.
Richmond - Great backline, Strong midfield, Quality ruckman, core of talent entering their prime football years. A coach they want to play for.
Imagine if we'd picked up Cooney & Gwilt coupled with coaches Neeld and Harvey? Some here would be tearing strips off us. :rollin
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may as well do side that beat us last yr. a side i admit i thought would do better than they did last yr. i still think they will improve a fair bit. i think both petracca and brayshaw will have very good first seasons being such big bodied kids. what i would consider their best 22 keeping structure and players in positions.
FB: Frost 194/93 21yo/21gms - Dunn 192/98 27yo/139gms - Garland 191/90 26yo/115gms could go sml Jetta 180/82 26YR/57GMS
HB: Grimes 187/82 25yo/86gms - Mcdonald 194/97 22yo/60gms - Lumumba 188/91 28yo/199gms.
C : Vince 186/87 29yo/151gms - Tyson 186/82 21yo/35gms - Trengove 185/87 23yo/81gms.
HF: Howe 190/86 24yo/78gms - Dawes 193/105 26yo/101gms - petracca 186/94 19yo/0gms.
FF: Garlett 180/75 25yr/107gms - Hogan 195/97 20yr/0gms - Pederson 193/96 28yo/45gms
Foll : Jamar 198/101 31yo/150gms - Jones 180/86 27yo/179gms - Viney 178/82 20yo/33gms.
Int: Cross 187/87 32yo/227gms - Brayshaw 187/88 19yo/0gms - Salem 183/81 19yo/12gms - M Jones 188/80 27yo/42gms.
Emg : Kent - Watts - newton - Gawn - kennedy-harris - toumpas.
its not a hopeless 22. it has a reasonable sprinkling of age or experience or both with 13 players aged 25 or more.with a good sprinkling of youth 9 players aged 24 or less with just 4 who have played less than 20 games and they are top end draft picks in brayshaw, petracca, salem, and hogan. good height good structure.ave gms 84 ave age 24.5.
reckon they will surprise a few if injuries etc dont bite into em they have a very good draw. games you would just pencil in as a win are no longer gimmes.
Forward line is very average
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Which ones? :shh
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may as well do side that beat us last yr. a side i admit i thought would do better than they did last yr. i still think they will improve a fair bit. i think both petracca and brayshaw will have very good first seasons being such big bodied kids. what i would consider their best 22 keeping structure and players in positions.
FB: Frost 194/93 21yo/21gms - Dunn 192/98 27yo/139gms - Garland 191/90 26yo/115gms could go sml Jetta 180/82 26YR/57GMS
HB: Grimes 187/82 25yo/86gms - Mcdonald 194/97 22yo/60gms - Lumumba 188/91 28yo/199gms.
C : Vince 186/87 29yo/151gms - Tyson 186/82 21yo/35gms - Trengove 185/87 23yo/81gms.
HF: Howe 190/86 24yo/78gms - Dawes 193/105 26yo/101gms - petracca 186/94 19yo/0gms.
FF: Garlett 180/75 25yr/107gms - Hogan 195/97 20yr/0gms - Pederson 193/96 28yo/45gms
Foll : Jamar 198/101 31yo/150gms - Jones 180/86 27yo/179gms - Viney 178/82 20yo/33gms.
Int: Cross 187/87 32yo/227gms - Brayshaw 187/88 19yo/0gms - Salem 183/81 19yo/12gms - M Jones 188/80 27yo/42gms.
Emg : Kent - Watts - newton - Gawn - kennedy-harris - toumpas.
its not a hopeless 22. it has a reasonable sprinkling of age or experience or both with 13 players aged 25 or more.with a good sprinkling of youth 9 players aged 24 or less with just 4 who have played less than 20 games and they are top end draft picks in brayshaw, petracca, salem, and hogan. good height good structure.ave gms 84 ave age 24.5.
reckon they will surprise a few if injuries etc dont bite into em they have a very good draw. games you would just pencil in as a win are no longer gimmes.
Forward line is very average
with the talls i agree in a way.
hogan well they are hoping he becomes our riewoldt.super young talent who should be their future.probably too young and raw to make a big impact.
dawes imo is a better player than both vickery and griffiths to date. a work horse who always competes his 2nd and 3rd efforts are great.he does all the little things. the things you rarely see vickery or griffiths do. reckon his worth is not appreciated by most.if he kicked 40 goals a yr he would be great.
pederson well hes struggled sort of like our two vickey and griffiths. hes a bit of a tease shows some real good signs at times then doesnt go on with it. hes had griffiths role played fwd pinch hit in the ruck. battler or not hes done as well as griffiths if not better.
i think people need to remember hogan was injured last yr and dawes missed games and played with injury and pederson missed about half the season while mitch clarke had depression. thats the equivalent of us losing riewoldt vickery griffiths and one other mcbean the only one left.
their sml and mediums fwds have it over ours imo. people will not agree and they are entitled to their opinions.
petracca #1 draft pick a bit like dusty martin. can impact fwd and has as a junioir. like hogan he may not have a big influence this yr but a blind man can see the potential with both.with petracca they now have a classy mid who can play plenty of time fwd much like we do with dusty.
howe is a pretty good medium sized marking fwd we dont have the equivalent. only medium fwds we have is lennon petterd gordon and knights with only petterd capable of matching him in the air. howe for me thanks.roos played him of h/b a lot last yr i think hes wasted there.
garlett has achieved far more than any sml fwd we have. what we wouldnt give or should have given for a 40 50 goal a yr sml fwd.
not saying their fwd line is perfect and i sure as hell would be looking to improve on it, thus i think they cant afford to not play howe fwd.they could do with an upgrade on pederson if garlett doest recapture his form they could do with a sml fwd. id like a similar type of kpf to dawes who kicks a few more goals.
take riewoldt out of the equation and ask yourself how good our fwd line is. he hasnt missed a game in 5 yrs we want to hope it stays that way.
mate last yr melbourne had a midfield that got smashed most games it played and the fwds suffered when they had fwds to play.
we had a midfield that gave our fwds good supply we at least got it in the fwd 50 yet our fwd line was our weakness. although i argue we have weaknesses all over the ground to varying degrees.
unlike most it seems, i think melbourne have plenty talent. they also still have holes to fix and upgrades to be made. i dont think them bottom 4 more a middling team atm who with a good draw and some real luck could cause plenty of upsets. i think theres 10 12 teams not too far apart.in fact potentially i dont think theres much difference between most sides.
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We may have given our forward line good supply but on our coaches instruction where that supply was directed was terrible. Most kicks were directed deep into the forward pocket giving our forwards little chance. The opposition all knew our game plan and were able to set up their defensive game plan around it.
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Clawski's posts are so long, half the time I don't even read em :lol
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ah lets do another one. a team we all love to bag. a team we all claim to be better than yet every yr that team manages to beat us at least once.
same criteria. 3 tall fwds. 3 tall def. at least 1 ruckman with age and experience listed. its also a a little of what id do. build from the back thru the middle. besides i dont think they went and got jones and jaksch to play in defense.
okay everybodys favorite team.
B; Touhy 187/92 25yr/76gms - Jamison 193/98 28ty/131gms - Rowe 198/96 27yr/31gms. with rowe after playing him as a fwd and failing i think they have found a defender to play on the bigger blokes and resting rucks. we will see if last yr was a fluke.
HB: Everitt 194/88 26yr/96 - Henderson 196/96 25yr/101gms - simpson 182/75 30/222gms. most have henderson fwd i think hes a far better kpd. reckon mick was forced to play him fwd he now has other options.jamison /henderson makes for two pretty decent kpds to build a defense around.
C : Yarran 180/82 24yr/82gms - Judd 189/88 31yr/271gms - Boekhurst 185/75 21yr/0gms
HF: Walker 190/88 28yr/179gms - Jones 198/98 24/66 - Menzel 187/83 27yr/26gms.
FF: Thomas 185/84 27yr/177gms - Jaksch 196/90 20yr/7gms - Casboult 199/103 25yr/36gms
R : Kruezer 200/103 25yr/106gms - Gibbs 188/85 26yr/177gms - murphy 180/80 27yr/185gms
Int: Curnow 182/84 25yr/86gms - Carazzo 187/85 31yr/178gms - Cripps 190/98 20yr/3gms - Docherty 184/85 21yr/29gms
emg bell. rainbow, graham, tutt, whiley, buckley.
make of it what you like but as i said there a lot of teams in the same sort of ball park.
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Clawski's posts are so long, half the time I don't even read em :lol
i do apologise for the long winded posts mate.
at 14 yrs i could hardly read or write. believe it or not i hate writing i consider myself illiterate in that sense. buuuut i now absolutely love reading. the things we take for granted eh. anyway i do apologise i dont know any other way to express myself and i know i do it poorly.
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does it matter ?
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does it matter ?
i hope not ox but i really dont care either way. im here to express an opinion as best as i can on a topic footy that i really enjoy.
i will say though think it rude to comment on posts you dont even read. i think we owe every poster the courtesy of reading their posts before passing judgment.
i will go read whole threads at times before joining in.
anyway im not bitching i know my posts are long winded and hard to read at times and i dont really blame others for giving up. i think i would too at times.
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Don't worry Claw, if this site didn't have pretty pictures as emoticons, gifs or profile pictures Phil wouldn't even have the attention span to look at this site
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does it matter ?
i hope not ox but i really dont care either way. im here to express an opinion as best as i can on a topic footy that i really enjoy.
i will say though think it rude to comment on posts you dont even read. i think we owe every poster the courtesy of reading their posts before passing judgment.
i will go read whole threads at times before joining in.
anyway im not bitching i know my posts are long winded and hard to read at times and i dont really blame others for giving up. i think i would too at times.
I read the thread title, to which I was replying.
Comprehensive enough for my liking
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Don't worry Claw, if this site didn't have pretty pictures as emoticons, gifs or profile pictures Phil wouldn't even have the attention span to look at this site
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does it matter ?
i hope not ox but i really dont care either way. im here to express an opinion as best as i can on a topic footy that i really enjoy.
i will say though think it rude to comment on posts you dont even read. i think we owe every poster the courtesy of reading their posts before passing judgment.
i will go read whole threads at times before joining in.
anyway im not bitching i know my posts are long winded and hard to read at times and i dont really blame others for giving up. i think i would too at times.
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