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Title: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: one-eyed on February 13, 2015, 12:59:44 AM
How many of these Tigers from 1989 can you name?

(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/1989/01/04/30228.jpg)(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/1989/01/04/30249.jpg)
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/1989/01/04/30237.jpg)(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/1989/01/04/30133.jpg)
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/1989/01/04/30111.jpg)(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/1989/01/04/28918.jpg)
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/1989/01/04/30436.jpg)(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/1989/01/04/30433.jpg)
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/1989/01/04/30233.jpg)(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/1989/11/13/22535.jpg)

Source: http://www.aflphotos.com.au
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Mr Magic on February 13, 2015, 06:27:33 AM
I know them all except the top left. 

That photo of an aging Mark Lee sums up that period to a tee. Very dark times at the RFC.
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 13, 2015, 06:57:30 AM
I know them all except the top left. 

That photo of an aging Mark Lee sums up that period to a tee. Very dark times at the RFC.

Top left is "what's his name" Laffy I think

Was it Michael Laffy  :huh
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: taztiger4 on February 13, 2015, 07:04:00 AM
I know them all except the top left. 

That photo of an aging Mark Lee sums up that period to a tee. Very dark times at the RFC.

Top left is "what's his name" Laffy I think

Was it Michael Laffy  :huh

Sure is
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: eliminator on February 13, 2015, 07:05:39 AM
I know them all except the top left. 

That photo of an aging Mark Lee sums up that period to a tee. Very dark times at the RFC.

Top left is "what's his name" Laffy I think

Was it Michael Laffy  :huh


Wasn't Laffy on one of those reality programs? Very dark times. Pictures sum up the dark times.
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Tigers of Old on February 13, 2015, 08:02:02 AM
5 wins for the year and another wooden spoon in the cupboard.
The following season the Save our Skins campaign was launched.
I honestly don't remember a worse time for the club in my lifetime, possibly ever.
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Tiger Tragic on February 13, 2015, 09:10:29 AM
Laffy, McKellar, Lambert, Egan (who is that behind him?), Hogg, S Ryan(?), Wilson, Weightman, Lee, J Pickering (can't see the others).

Not sure why the players in the last pic are disappointed...what?  they expected to win??  I went into every game that year thinking anything less than a 10 goal defeat was virtually a win.
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Bateman on February 13, 2015, 09:52:14 AM
I know them all except the top left. 

That photo of an aging Mark Lee sums up that period to a tee. Very dark times at the RFC.

Top left is "what's his name" Laffy I think

Was it Michael Laffy  :huh

Sure is

Was there that day. Carrara 1988 when Capper kicked a heap in his only half decent game for the BB
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: mat073 on February 13, 2015, 11:22:02 AM
If I recall correctly we finished 1988 in fine style ....ended up winning 8 games . Beat Carlton for the first time in yonks. Beat Fitzroy by over 100 pts in the final game.

Started 1989 full of hope and dreams - then reality hit ..... We really were the worst team in the comp. The equalivant of what Melbourne is today .
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: 🏅Dooks on February 13, 2015, 06:12:01 PM
If I recall correctly we finished 1988 in fine style ....ended up winning 8 games . Beat Carlton for the first time in yonks. Beat Fitzroy by over 100 pts in the final game.

Started 1989 full of hope and dreams - then reality hit ..... We really were the worst team in the comp. The equalivant of what Melbourne is today .

Was at the Fitzroy game. Was peeing down. A night game IIRC. Guys were getting around saying we were contenders for the 89 flag after the game. Pumped! Massive off season. And then.....
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 13, 2015, 06:13:44 PM
wheres big mrakov  ::)
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Darth Tiger on February 13, 2015, 06:23:42 PM
Good to see Andy 'Cement Head' Goodwin gets a photo all to himself.
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on February 13, 2015, 07:40:29 PM
Photo number 4 with Phil Egan leading Jamie Turner to the ball is 1987.
About rd 16 at the G. We beat them by 5 or 6 goals.
Bond was our sponsor in 1987.
.05 became our sponsor in 1988. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: 🏅Dooks on February 13, 2015, 07:55:41 PM
Good to see Andy 'Cement Head' Goodwin gets a photo all to himself.

The guy is still a cement head in 2015 lol
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Willy on February 13, 2015, 08:12:44 PM
 :lol
Wowee, things looked bleak in my birth year
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Owl on February 13, 2015, 08:34:42 PM
Jeebus I joined the navy that year mate lol
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: 🏅Dooks on February 13, 2015, 08:49:21 PM
:lol
Wowee, things looked bleak in my birth year

Geez  :facepalm

Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Willy on February 13, 2015, 09:12:59 PM
Jeebus I joined the navy that year mate lol


 :lol

In many ways being born is a lot like joining the navy
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Smokey on February 14, 2015, 12:57:13 AM
Jeebus I joined the navy that year mate lol

And me the Army!!   :thumbsup
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Owl on February 14, 2015, 07:50:59 PM
LOL awesome
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: mightytiges on February 14, 2015, 10:50:53 PM
Tim Powell is behind Lambert as they come through the door.

Michael Thomson is the other Tiger in the Phil Egan pic. He played with Essendon before he came across to us.

If I recall correctly we finished 1988 in fine style ....ended up winning 8 games . Beat Carlton for the first time in yonks. Beat Fitzroy by over 100 pts in the final game.

Started 1989 full of hope and dreams - then reality hit ..... We really were the worst team in the comp. The equalivant of what Melbourne is today .

Was at the Fitzroy game. Was peeing down. A night game IIRC. Guys were getting around saying we were contenders for the 89 flag after the game. Pumped! Massive off season. And then.....
Injuries stuffed us up big time that season. We couldn't afford any injuries to the few good footballers we had. The first 7 rounds when we had our best 22 playing, we were reasonably competitive. From memory we were 3-4 and on track for a okay year given the young list we had under KB. Then injuries hit and we barely won a game for the rest of season and finished wooden spooners.
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: MintOnLamb on February 15, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
KB was coach, was he bad or was it the cattle, i remember abusing him on the sidelines amidst a fluryy of thrown membership cards, or was that another year??
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: eliminator on February 15, 2015, 01:32:49 PM
Tim Powell is behind Lambert as they come through the door.

Michael Thomson is the other Tiger in the Phil Egan pic. He played with Essendon before he came across to us.

If I recall correctly we finished 1988 in fine style ....ended up winning 8 games . Beat Carlton for the first time in yonks. Beat Fitzroy by over 100 pts in the final game.

Started 1989 full of hope and dreams - then reality hit ..... We really were the worst team in the comp. The equalivant of what Melbourne is today .

Was at the Fitzroy game. Was peeing down. A night game IIRC. Guys were getting around saying we were contenders for the 89 flag after the game. Pumped! Massive off season. And then.....
Injuries stuffed us up big time that season. We couldn't afford any injuries to the few good footballers we had. The first 7 rounds when we had our best 22 playing, we were reasonably competitive. From memory we were 3-4 and on track for a okay year given the young list we had under KB. Then injuries hit and we barely won a game for the rest of season and finished wooden spooners.

 I think we beat the bears in 1989 with Tim Powell playing a blinder but apart from that I just recall the thrashing we got from Geelong that year. 
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Penelope on February 15, 2015, 06:31:52 PM
KB was coach, was he bad or was it the cattle, i remember abusing him on the sidelines amidst a fluryy of thrown membership cards, or was that another year??
At the time i never rated him as a coach but in hindsight he rejuvenated the side with kids and set things up for Northey. There was one cracking game against the swans who had a quality midfield with Williams et al and he sent the kids out to go head to head with them,no tagging. great to watch.

I can understand why Kev was so bitter at getting the sack. He did the hard yard in playing kids but never had a chance to reap the rewards.
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: the claw on February 16, 2015, 10:14:32 PM
how many of the players who played finals for us in 95 were there before kb took over or came after him. i think we do northey a disservice if we say kb set it up for him.

northey introduced most of the players in just 3 yrs. he did it by mostly and astutely taking mature players cheaply.rogers, bullus, bond, broderick,dear, gale, charles, wigney, howat, merenda and mcqueen.matty richardson,  tape were others  and i think prescott and kellaway were northeys as well. swooper built plenty in just 3 seasons.
i know the draft back in those days was hit and miss butthese are the first rounders no make it  top 20 picks we had under kb.

87/ lounder 1,  peters 14,
88/ naish 5, francis 19,
89/ banik 1, scott 13, bower 15, wren 18
90/ menegola 16, traded pick 4 for terry keays.
91/ we traded pick pick for odwyer,we traded pick 16 for stevan jackson. we also traded 42 for breman, and to round it out we got pick 49 for michael pickering and 51 for nicholls.

under kb we finished 10th, 14th in a 14 team comp, 11th in a 14 team comp. 13th in a 15 team comp.
under northey we finished 13th15 teams, 9th 16 teams, 3rd 16 teams. then unbelievably could not come to terms with the coach.

 imo if anyone should feel hard done by it was northey.
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 16, 2015, 11:17:53 PM
how many of the players who played finals for us in 95 were there before kb took over or came after him. i think we do northey a disservice if we say kb set it up for him.

northey introduced most of the players in just 3 yrs. he did it by mostly and astutely taking mature players cheaply.rogers, bullus, bond, broderick,dear, gale, charles, wigney, howat, merenda and mcqueen.matty richardson,  tape were others  and i think prescott and kellaway were northeys as well. swooper built plenty in just 3 seasons.
i know the draft back in those days was hit and miss butthese are the first rounders no make it  top 20 picks we had under kb.

87/ lounder 1,  peters 14,
88/ naish 5, francis 19,
89/ banik 1, scott 13, bower 15, wren 18
90/ menegola 16, traded pick 4 for terry keays.
91/ we traded pick pick for odwyer,we traded pick 16 for stevan jackson. we also traded 42 for breman, and to round it out we got pick 49 for michael pickering and 51 for nicholls.

under kb we finished 10th, 14th in a 14 team comp, 11th in a 14 team comp. 13th in a 15 team comp.
under northey we finished 13th15 teams, 9th 16 teams, 3rd 16 teams. then unbelievably could not come to terms with the coach.

 imo if anyone should feel hard done by it was northey.
Northey should've got a 5 year deal and we would've made at the least a granny under him. He was a very very good coach  and he was a ****en fruitcake. Something DH is not
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Penelope on February 17, 2015, 11:40:31 AM
my intent is not to do Northey a disservice, im not saying he didnt do a good job.

But KB cleared out the dead wood and played kids, at the expense of short term success. Whether he would have done as good a job as northey is another discussion entirely, but he never had a chance to reap the rewards from the hard yards.

Gee there is a few honest battlers in your list. Glass half empty types?

Just to clarify one thing. How much blame/credit does the coach take for recruitment? It seems to change.

And yes Northey was shafted too. I've made my feelings about Mal Browns role in this clear, and i've heard whispers BJ was one of the influential supporters backing Brown
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Diocletian on February 17, 2015, 01:53:29 PM
Don't underestimate Sheedy's role in the Northey debacle - manipulated the dopey hotheaded Brown and egged him on as much as anyone.
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: Penelope on February 17, 2015, 09:19:20 PM
Thats a new take on it to me.

Do elaborate, please.
Title: Re: Blast from the Past: RFC pics from 1989
Post by: The Big Richo on February 17, 2015, 10:16:32 PM
I think Northey played the biggest role himself.

I've had conversations with a few people who played and worked at the clubs where Northey coached and they say he was a very one dimensional coach.

Essentially it was fire and brimstone, us against them and it was a message that quickly grew stale so he had to keep searching for new motivation.

That meant he would eventually start to turn on his own club administration for material, almost creating blues with people at the club so he could tell his players everyone was against them.

I don't think its a coincidence that he was always successful initially and always seemed to leave clubs suddenly and with a cloud over him.