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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 11, 2015, 09:02:30 PM
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Lambert out (shoulder).
Lids and Edwards possibly back?
Fire away ...
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Out anyone who is slow or cant run
In Deledio, Edwards anybody with some semblance of pace and speed.
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Out
Newman Chaplin Morris Lambert Petterd
In
Lennon Astbury Knights Deledio Edwards
Grigg very lucky, when Conca is fit bye bye
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Geez where does one start
:facepalm
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Newman retired- Dea
Houli - Lennon
Pettard- Edwards
Gordon- Deledio
That for starters.
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Lids and shed won't be playing.
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Out: Hardwick, Hartley, Jackson, Richardson
In: Bomber and three trained monkeys.
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Petard had no business being out there today. No business whatsoever.
Chaplin can PO just a real liability.
Grigg can join him.
Just a real mess
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Nothing will change
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doesn't matter, same ol same ol
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if reports are correct and ellis has dropped back to old habits and failed to put his head over the ball numerous times then pee him off asap.
time to find out who will get down and dirty and fight and pee those off who wont. brandon would get us a very good pick come seasons end.
it is time for real decisions to be made. the line in the sand has to be drawn if they wont do what is expected pee em off.
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if reports are correct and ellis has dropped back to old habits and failed to put his head over the ball numerous times then pee him off asap.
time to find out who will get down and dirty and fight and pee those off who wont. brandon would get us a very good pick come seasons end.
it is time for real decisions to be made. the line in the sand has to be drawn if they wont do what is expected pee em off.
This should have been the hardwick mantra from day dot, but its not so cant see it being introduced 5 years in. He continually picks players who don't go hard enough, not only the contest but defensive running, too many who dont do the hard yards bc they are 'senior' players
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Outs
Grigg, Lambert , Gordon
Ins
Lids, Edwards , Hampson
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Who's gives a stuff.
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Should thomas get a go??
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Who's gives a stuff.
I do
Think we need to fix the big man dept and get first use of ball for once
Griffo in the ruck isn't working as our structure up forward falls down when he is in the ruck
We all agree Ty isn't the answer
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I don't agree.
I think Maric needs to go, the speed of footy has gone past him and he is incapable up forward.
We should play Vickery as first ruck and swap with Griffiths to give us two mobile ruckman who are capable up forward.
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Astbury as a forward might be worth consideration. Key backs look settled and I think I could work just fine. One thing is for sure, we need leg speed in the forward half as Lloyd and co are just too slow.
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Deledio - Elton - Grimes
McIntosh - Rance - Dea
Hunt - Cotchin - Vlastuin
Lennon - Astbury - Knights
Reiwoldt - Griffiths - Edwards
Maric - Martin - Miles
Menadue
McBean
Arnot
Conca
Port Melbourne Coach 8)
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Who's gives a stuff.
I do
Think we need to fix the big man dept and get first use of ball for once
Griffo in the ruck isn't working as our structure up forward falls down when he is in the ruck
We all agree Ty isn't the answer
WGAF!
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It seems the bulldogs yesterday did a number on big Ivan.They appeared to isolate him and took advantage of his lack of mobility
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It seems the bulldogs yesterday did a number on big Ivan.They appeared to isolate him and took advantage of his lack of mobility
bring in tyrone - at least he can run
ping
pong
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It seems the bulldogs yesterday did a number on big Ivan.They appeared to isolate him and took advantage of his lack of mobility
Same with Chaplin. Only one true key tall in Bulldogs fwd line and we went to top heavy and low mobility. Should have gone in with Rance and Grimes plus quick running backs.
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Chaplin is a strange one...He's tall but doesn't really play that role.He can look really good in games and other times he looks hopeless.Dont really know how to judge him.Maybe he reflects the fortunes of the team,but isnt one who will dig us out of a hole
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Chaplin is a strange one...He's tall but doesn't really play that role.He can look really good in games and other times he looks hopeless.Dont really know how to judge him.Maybe he reflects the fortunes of the team,but isnt one who will dig us out of a hole
imho
chaplin is terrible
i think rance can take his game to an even higher level; if you surround him with elton astbury grimes, instead
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Chaplin plus a number of other Tigers are lazy both physically but even more importantly mentally. Things just get too tough when the momentum isn't going their way so it's almost like they sulk instead of lifting the head and fighting it out. Some players seem content after a loss, look at the faces of players from top 4 teams after a loss, you just know they will push themselves to the limit the next game. Our guys just seem to go through the motions, we seem to pick up players from other clubs who don't respond well to pressure but I guess that's why they are let go by their former clubs in the first place.
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So many selecting Dea as an in but I don't know why.
So far he's shown nothing that I've seen that warrants any excitement whatsoever.
So to those who want him in the team, I'm asking why?
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Not sure if Dea is even back on the track yet
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Dea is injures still so move right along please.
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The Barometer - Round 3
Herald-Sun
April 14, 2015
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: Is the Steve Morris as a forward experiment dead after two weeks? He had eight disposals on Saturday after three in Round 1 and offers nothing offensively, scoring 0.0 for the season so far. Nathan Gordon started in the green vest again and probably needs a full game in either the AFL or VFL. Jake Batchelor could pay the price for some horrible turnovers while Ricky Petterd was a late inclusion and will probably go straight out again.
ON THE CUSP: Chris Knights was close to a game last week and picked up another 29 disposals in the VFL. Richmond’s top draft pick from last November Corey Ellis had 20 disposals playing across half-back and Nathan Foley played a half in his return from a foot injury. The Tigers will be desperate to get Shane Edwards back into the 22.
AL PATON’S FORECAST: A trip to Brisbane this week gives the Tigers a chance to get back ahead in the win-loss column — Richmond has won its past nine against the Lions including four at the Gabba. But bigger questions will take longer to answer. Damien Hardwick identified forward pressure as an area improvement was needed and worked on it all pre-season, then watched as Robert Murphy strolled out of defence unchallenged on Saturday to set up repeated Bulldogs attacks. A bold solution might be draftee Dan Butler, a goalsneak and tackling machine who ranked No. 1 among forwards for pressure at last year’s under-18 championships.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-barometer-whos-hot-and-whos-not-at-your-afl-club/story-stuff-1227301723934?sv=73484b65ecaa910e4c4542606640f952
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In the Mix: Round 3
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
April 14, 2015
RICHMOND
A revamped forward line could be the answer for the Tigers after a lacklustre nine-goal performance against the Western Bulldogs.
Vice-captain Brett Deledio (calf) trained lightly on Tuesday and will need to prove his fitness on Thursday to return against the Brisbane Lions.
Shane Edwards (calf) will also need to pass a fitness test after he was a late withdrawal against the Bulldogs.
Another forward option is Chris Knights, who has produced back-to-back standout performances with the VFL Tigers, racking up 29 disposals and eight clearances on Saturday.
Defender David Astbury and tall forward Ty Vickery are both available for selection with Kane Lambert (shoulder) and Ricky Petterd (foot) both making way.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-14/in-the-mix-round-three
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In Butler, Knights, Vickery, Astbury, Edwards and Lids if available. Out Petterd, Batchelor, Newman, Lambert and Gordon
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Hardwick will only make the 2 forced changes. He believes you shouldn't tinker too much with the team
Out: Lambert, Petterd
In: Matthew Thomas, Vickery
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Hardwick will only make the 2 forced changes. He believes you shouldn't tinker too much with the team
Out: Lambert, Petterd
In: Matthew Thomas, Vickery
Wont be happy :banghead I know your joking, least I hope I know your joking.
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Hardwick will only make the 2 forced changes. He believes you shouldn't tinker too much with the team
Out: Lambert, Petterd
In: Matthew Thomas, Vickery
Wont be happy :banghead I know your joking, least I hope I know your joking.
Not joking at all that's what I'm expecting
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Hardwick will only make the 2 forced changes. He believes you shouldn't tinker too much with the team
Out: Lambert, Petterd
In: Matthew Thomas, Vickery
Wont be happy :banghead I know your joking, least I hope I know your joking.
Not joking at all that's what I'm expecting
Well on a side note, does anybody know exactly who is on the Selection committee?
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Hardwick will only make the 2 forced changes. He believes you shouldn't tinker too much with the team
Out: Lambert, Petterd
In: Matthew Thomas, Vickery
Wont be happy :banghead I know your joking, least I hope I know your joking.
Not joking at all that's what I'm expecting
Well on a side note, does anybody know exactly who is on the Selection committee?
It appears to me that Elmer Fudd is on the selection committee
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Hardwick will only make the 2 forced changes. He believes you shouldn't tinker too much with the team
Out: Lambert, Petterd
In: Matthew Thomas, Vickery
Wont be happy :banghead I know your joking, least I hope I know your joking.
Not joking at all that's what I'm expecting
Well on a side note, does anybody know exactly who is on the Selection committee?
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i can think of 8 changes
astbury - chaplin
deledio - grimes
c ellis - lambert
knights - petterd
mckenzie - newman
thomas - grigg
butler - lloyd
edwards - batchelor
fb: morris - astbury - vlastuin. morris goes back to his normal role drop mcintosh back to h/b. bring deledio in for run delivery and pace.
hb:mcintosh - rance - deledio.
mid: c ellis - cotchin - hunt. bring the young ellis in and give him a wing.
foll: maric - martin - miles. very tempted to put hamspud in.hes on the list gotta play him sooner or later.
hf: knights - riewoldt - edwards. knights is a monty edwards and butler to round out the sml fwd spots. time to see what butler can do its time to play some kids. mckenzie instead of vickery
ff: griffiths - mckenzie - butler.
int: houli - thomas - gordon - b ellis. soft weak efforts should never be tolerated give ellis a warning by making him sub.
debut c ellis, butler, and mckenzie.
that will send a message to the whole freakin lot of em.
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Hardwick will only make the 2 forced changes. He believes you shouldn't tinker too much with the team
Out: Lambert, Petterd
In: Matthew Thomas, Vickery
Wont be happy :banghead I know your joking, least I hope I know your joking.
Not joking at all that's what I'm expecting
Not if he's on the rookie list
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i can think of 8 changes
astbury - chaplin
deledio - grimes
c ellis - lambert
knights - petterd
mckenzie - newman
thomas - grigg
butler - lloyd
edwards - batchelor
fb: morris - astbury - vlastuin. morris goes back to his normal role drop mcintosh back to h/b. bring deledio in for run delivery and pace.
hb:mcintosh - rance - deledio
mid: c ellis - cotchin - hunt bring the young ellis in and give him a wing.
foll: maric - martin - miles. very tempted to put hamspud in.hes on the list gotta play him sooner or later.
hf: knights - riewoldt - edwards knights is a monty edwards and butler to round out the sml fwd spots. time to see what butler can do its time to play some kids. mckenzie instead of vickery
ff: griffiths - mckenzie - butler.
int: houli - thomas - gordon - b ellis. soft weak efforts should never be tolerated give ellis a warning by making him sub.
debut c ellis, butler, and mckenzie.
that will send a message to the whole freakin lot of em.
Claw, I have to agree with most of that. Knights for Petterd is a good call. I'd keep Lids away from the HB line for now, if fit he should play as sub & look to him for some late run & carry.
McKenzie is a must but I would play him at HF, pushing up to the wing to give our backs a marking target to bomb it to. I'd rather see a 60mtr bomb out of defence & hope for a mark on the wing than to run around avoiding tackles with 2mtr handballs & coughing it up anyway. If we lose it on the wing at least we bought a few seconds for our defence. Belting it forward by 60mtrs is better than getting caught up in a forward press ... when the inevitable happens ...
I still hold some hopes for Sam Lloyd as a small forward, at least he knows where the big sticks are & can kick a goal! Would like to see C.Ellis & Butler too. Brisbane are the right side to blood a few kids against, so do it now!
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Knight killed it at vfl level on Saturday. HAS to come in otherwise something is very very amiss
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Knight killed it at vfl level on Saturday. HAS to come in otherwise something is very very amiss
dont be silly its a line in the sand game and good form has no part in it. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol they need to be allowed to redeem themselves against that awesome lions outfit.
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i can think of 8 changes
astbury - chaplin
deledio - grimes
c ellis - lambert
knights - petterd
mckenzie - newman
thomas - grigg
butler - lloyd
edwards - batchelor
fb: morris - astbury - vlastuin. morris goes back to his normal role drop mcintosh back to h/b. bring deledio in for run delivery and pace.
hb:mcintosh - rance - deledio.
mid: c ellis - cotchin - hunt. bring the young ellis in and give him a wing.
foll: maric - martin - miles. very tempted to put hamspud in.hes on the list gotta play him sooner or later.
hf: knights - riewoldt - edwards. knights is a monty edwards and butler to round out the sml fwd spots. time to see what butler can do its time to play some kids. mckenzie instead of vickery
ff: griffiths - mckenzie - butler.
int: houli - thomas - gordon - b ellis. soft weak efforts should never be tolerated give ellis a warning by making him sub.
debut c ellis, butler, and mckenzie.
that will send a message to the whole freakin lot of em.
Not in a million years would hardwit deviate so auspiciously
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In Butler, Knights, Vickery, Astbury, Edwards and Lids if available. Out Petterd, Batchelor, Newman, Lambert and Gordon
Butler :ROTFL he didn't even play in the reserves last week , any more screamers :clapping
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I don't care if Butler didn't play in the reserves. Take a punt. Rather take a risk than play Petterd again.
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PLEASE NO VICKERY
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i can think of 8 changes
astbury - chaplin
deledio - grimes
c ellis - lambert
knights - petterd
mckenzie - newman
thomas - grigg
butler - lloyd
edwards - batchelor
fb: morris - astbury - vlastuin. morris goes back to his normal role drop mcintosh back to h/b. bring deledio in for run delivery and pace.
hb:mcintosh - rance - deledio.
mid: c ellis - cotchin - hunt. bring the young ellis in and give him a wing.
foll: maric - martin - miles. very tempted to put hamspud in.hes on the list gotta play him sooner or later.
hf: knights - riewoldt - edwards. knights is a monty edwards and butler to round out the sml fwd spots. time to see what butler can do its time to play some kids. mckenzie instead of vickery
ff: griffiths - mckenzie - butler.
int: houli - thomas - gordon - b ellis. soft weak efforts should never be tolerated give ellis a warning by making him sub.
debut c ellis, butler, and mckenzie.
that will send a message to the whole freakin lot of em.
Not in a million years would hardwit deviate so auspiciously
That's great news
If the time came that any coach of the RFC thought along the same thought patterns as you and Claw I know the time has come to renounce my tiger membership
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Grimes has done his hammy so there goes another one.
Outs Grimes, Petterd, Lambert,Vlastuin
In: Astbury, Lennon, Knights, McDonough
Not losing much and gaining class ball users.
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i can think of 8 changes
astbury - chaplin
deledio - grimes
c ellis - lambert
knights - petterd
mckenzie - newman
thomas - grigg
butler - lloyd
edwards - batchelor
fb: morris - astbury - vlastuin. morris goes back to his normal role drop mcintosh back to h/b. bring deledio in for run delivery and pace.
hb:mcintosh - rance - deledio.
mid: c ellis - cotchin - hunt. bring the young ellis in and give him a wing.
foll: maric - martin - miles. very tempted to put hamspud in.hes on the list gotta play him sooner or later.
hf: knights - riewoldt - edwards. knights is a monty edwards and butler to round out the sml fwd spots. time to see what butler can do its time to play some kids. mckenzie instead of vickery
ff: griffiths - mckenzie - butler.
int: houli - thomas - gordon - b ellis. soft weak efforts should never be tolerated give ellis a warning by making him sub.
debut c ellis, butler, and mckenzie.
that will send a message to the whole freakin lot of em.
Not in a million years would hardwit deviate so auspiciously
That's great news
If the time came that any coach of the RFC thought along the same thought patterns as you and Claw I know the time has come to renounce my tiger membership
all good chucky your entitled to your opinion.
me i think of those 8 changes there is really only a risk or a bit of punt taking with two. butler and mckenzie.imo the rest are logical and speak for themselves.
the reasons behind wanting to play butler and mckenzie are simple.
i would never play vickery again until he fixes his weaknesses and for once in his career is forced to play damn good footy in the twos for a prolonged period and earn a spot. i have no doubt it is time to treat many of our players this way.
i also think three talls is the way to structure up hence id throw mckenzie in the deep end. he may be young and raw, but he at least has the physical attributes to play seniors .he cant really do much worse than what we have been served up over the yrs from some pretty ordinary players. ffs give him a few games if he goes okay we win if he struggles we win he has had the experience.
atm id give him newmans spot we get nothing from him and it enables us to go taller. again what is there to lose. we drop an old hack who should have retired yrs ago and we do something to help structure and give a kid experience.
butler geez hes quick, he lays good tackles works hard without the ball and knows where the goals are. its time to find a bloody good sml fwd aand he has the attributes. throw him in i reckon he has a better chance to shine with our better players around him than being stuck in the twos with the hacks getting belted each week, the same goes for mckenzie.
butler comes in for lloyd. last time i looked we play a bloke fwd because we lack pace and defensive pressure. lloyd is a part of that problem his pace or lack there of hurts us.
the last time i looked and its been an ongoing problem our fwd line is shizen and reliant on one player. we play one of our key fwds in the ruck for chunks of games leaving just one tall fwd and i cant remember the last time we had a 40 plus goal kicking sml who also defends.
you dont think knights will help up fwd. petterd is out for months and knights is a better player. what is not to like about that. we do something about the fwd half again instead of sitting on our hands lamenting the state of affairs up fwd..we also find a bloke who can be a part of rotations.
im not overly intersted in wins they dont mean a thing and wont get us anywhere. winning with a squad that can achieves success is what its about. finding that squad takes precedence atm.
astbury or chaplin. one has shown he can play 1v1 against bigger kpfs pretty well he has a way to go still but hes better than chaplin surely. he may be a part of that squad that can achieve.
deledio over grimes every day of the week in any position. you want pace plenty of run some accountability and good delivery or do you want grimes.
cory ellis in for the injured lambert. an inside mid with good skills a kid starting on a wing its ideal.
thomas for grigg id play thomas over the weak soft prick any day of the week. hes actually a big body inside that we dont have and he went okay last yr.
edwards for batchelor a mid for an unneeded defender who can play neither tall or sml well.
me im happy with those calls i think they actually improve us in most cases.
me id like to hear a reasoned response but i suppose thats too much to expect. cmon ive put it out there why we should. your poo pooing it how about you put out there why not point thru point or more to the point change thru change.
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i can think of 8 changes
astbury - chaplin
deledio - grimes
c ellis - lambert
knights - petterd
mckenzie - newman
thomas - grigg
butler - lloyd
edwards - batchelor
fb: morris - astbury - vlastuin. morris goes back to his normal role drop mcintosh back to h/b. bring deledio in for run delivery and pace.
hb:mcintosh - rance - deledio.
mid: c ellis - cotchin - hunt. bring the young ellis in and give him a wing.
foll: maric - martin - miles. very tempted to put hamspud in.hes on the list gotta play him sooner or later.
hf: knights - riewoldt - edwards. knights is a monty edwards and butler to round out the sml fwd spots. time to see what butler can do its time to play some kids. mckenzie instead of vickery
ff: griffiths - mckenzie - butler.
int: houli - thomas - gordon - b ellis. soft weak efforts should never be tolerated give ellis a warning by making him sub.
debut c ellis, butler, and mckenzie.
that will send a message to the whole freakin lot of em.
Not in a million years would hardwit deviate so auspiciously
That's great news
If the time came that any coach of the RFC thought along the same thought patterns as you and Claw I know the time has come to renounce my tiger membership
all good chucky your entitled to your opinion.
me i think of those 8 changes there is really only a risk or a bit of punt taking with two. butler and mckenzie.imo the rest are logical and speak for themselves.
the reasons behind wanting to play butler and mckenzie are simple.
i would never play vickery again until he fixes his weaknesses and for once in his career is forced to play damn good footy in the twos for a prolonged period and earn a spot. i have no doubt it is time to treat many of our players this way.
i also think three talls is the way to structure up hence id throw mckenzie in the deep end. he may be young and raw, but he at least has the physical attributes to play seniors .he cant really do much worse than what we have been served up over the yrs from some pretty ordinary players. ffs give him a few games if he goes okay we win if he struggles we win he has had the experience.
atm id give him newmans spot we get nothing from him and it enables us to go taller. again what is there to lose. we drop an old hack who should have retired yrs ago and we do something to help structure and give a kid experience.
butler geez hes quick, he lays good tackles works hard without the ball and knows where the goals are. its time to find a bloody good sml fwd aand he has the attributes. throw him in i reckon he has a better chance to shine with our better players around him than being stuck in the twos with the hacks getting belted each week, the same goes for mckenzie.
butler comes in for lloyd. last time i looked we play a bloke fwd because we lack pace and defensive pressure. lloyd is a part of that problem his pace or lack there of hurts us.
the last time i looked and its been an ongoing problem our fwd line is shizen and reliant on one player. we play one of our key fwds in the ruck for chunks of games leaving just one tall fwd and i cant remember the last time we had a 40 plus goal kicking sml who also defends.
you dont think knights will help up fwd. petterd is out for months and knights is a better player. what is not to like about that. we do something about the fwd half again instead of sitting on our hands lamenting the state of affairs up fwd..we also find a bloke who can be a part of rotations.
im not overly intersted in wins they dont mean a thing and wont get us anywhere. winning with a squad that can achieves success is what its about. finding that squad takes precedence atm.
astbury or chaplin. one has shown he can play 1v1 against bigger kpfs pretty well he has a way to go still but hes better than chaplin surely. he may be a part of that squad that can achieve.
deledio over grimes every day of the week in any position. you want pace plenty of run some accountability and good delivery or do you want grimes.
cory ellis in for the injured lambert. an inside mid with good skills a kid starting on a wing its ideal.
thomas for grigg id play thomas over the weak soft prick any day of the week. hes actually a big body inside that we dont have and he went okay last yr.
edwards for batchelor a mid for an unneeded defender who can play neither tall or sml well.
me im happy with those calls i think they actually improve us in most cases.
me id like to hear a reasoned response but i suppose thats too much to expect. cmon ive put it out there why we should. your poo pooing it how about you put out there why not point thru point or more to the point change thru change.
The three young players in Mckenzie, Ellis and Butler won't be played unless they do a Miles and force their way in with consistent VFL performances because the RFC believe they can make the finals.
You have also taken out four backman and only put in one.
I believe you should have another go at it as a 10 year old would find it hard to take it seriously
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Grimes has done his hammy so there goes another one.
When? WP doesn't like rumours
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Grimes has done his hammy so there goes another one.
When? WP doesn't like rumours
No rumour about it. Confirmed by Mick Warner from the Herald-Sun on twitter:
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mickwarner @heraldsunmick twitter:
"Minor hamstring strain (again) for Richmond's Dylan Grimes ... Will miss one or two"
https://twitter.com/heraldsunmick/status/588278727856955392
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Vlastuin may be out too according to BF:
Tiger_man322 said: "Rumour that Vlastin done his ankle last week ..."
theflea said: "Yeah no rumour about it, was in the rooms mid quarter getting jabbed."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/round-2-brisbane-v-richmond-gabba-saturday-7-20pm-18-04-15.1093539/page-11#post-37971567
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I don't care if Butler didn't play in the reserves. Take a punt. Rather take a risk than play Petterd again.
Well you dont' need to worry Petterd won't be playing this week, he's just had surgery on his foot and is out a minimum 3 months; possibly longer
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So in the last few weeks, we've lost Deledio (calf), Grimes, (hamstring), Conca (hamstring), Petterd (foot), Lambert (shoulder), Edwards (calf) and probably Vlastuin (ankle). Five of those are starting 22.
Wow.
I hope this trend doesn't continue.........
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Season over. We won't win another game until they're all back and we have 0 depth to cover
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So in the last few weeks, we've lost Deledio (calf), Grimes, (hamstring), Conca (hamstring), Petterd (foot), Lambert (shoulder), Edwards (calf) and probably Vlastuin (ankle). Five of those are starting 22.
Wow.
I hope this trend doesn't continue.........
its good fodder for the apologists though
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i can think of 8 changes
astbury - chaplin
deledio - grimes
c ellis - lambert
knights - petterd
mckenzie - newman
thomas - grigg
butler - lloyd
edwards - batchelor
fb: morris - astbury - vlastuin. morris goes back to his normal role drop mcintosh back to h/b. bring deledio in for run delivery and pace.
hb:mcintosh - rance - deledio.
mid: c ellis - cotchin - hunt. bring the young ellis in and give him a wing.
foll: maric - martin - miles. very tempted to put hamspud in.hes on the list gotta play him sooner or later.
hf: knights - riewoldt - edwards. knights is a monty edwards and butler to round out the sml fwd spots. time to see what butler can do its time to play some kids. mckenzie instead of vickery
ff: griffiths - mckenzie - butler.
int: houli - thomas - gordon - b ellis. soft weak efforts should never be tolerated give ellis a warning by making him sub.
debut c ellis, butler, and mckenzie.
that will send a message to the whole freakin lot of em.
Not in a million years would hardwit deviate so auspiciously
That's great news
If the time came that any coach of the RFC thought along the same thought patterns as you and Claw I know the time has come to renounce my tiger membership
all good chucky your entitled to your opinion.
me i think of those 8 changes there is really only a risk or a bit of punt taking with two. butler and mckenzie.imo the rest are logical and speak for themselves.
the reasons behind wanting to play butler and mckenzie are simple.
i would never play vickery again until he fixes his weaknesses and for once in his career is forced to play damn good footy in the twos for a prolonged period and earn a spot. i have no doubt it is time to treat many of our players this way.
i also think three talls is the way to structure up hence id throw mckenzie in the deep end. he may be young and raw, but he at least has the physical attributes to play seniors .he cant really do much worse than what we have been served up over the yrs from some pretty ordinary players. ffs give him a few games if he goes okay we win if he struggles we win he has had the experience.
atm id give him newmans spot we get nothing from him and it enables us to go taller. again what is there to lose. we drop an old hack who should have retired yrs ago and we do something to help structure and give a kid experience.
butler geez hes quick, he lays good tackles works hard without the ball and knows where the goals are. its time to find a bloody good sml fwd aand he has the attributes. throw him in i reckon he has a better chance to shine with our better players around him than being stuck in the twos with the hacks getting belted each week, the same goes for mckenzie.
butler comes in for lloyd. last time i looked we play a bloke fwd because we lack pace and defensive pressure. lloyd is a part of that problem his pace or lack there of hurts us.
the last time i looked and its been an ongoing problem our fwd line is shizen and reliant on one player. we play one of our key fwds in the ruck for chunks of games leaving just one tall fwd and i cant remember the last time we had a 40 plus goal kicking sml who also defends.
you dont think knights will help up fwd. petterd is out for months and knights is a better player. what is not to like about that. we do something about the fwd half again instead of sitting on our hands lamenting the state of affairs up fwd..we also find a bloke who can be a part of rotations.
im not overly intersted in wins they dont mean a thing and wont get us anywhere. winning with a squad that can achieves success is what its about. finding that squad takes precedence atm.
astbury or chaplin. one has shown he can play 1v1 against bigger kpfs pretty well he has a way to go still but hes better than chaplin surely. he may be a part of that squad that can achieve.
deledio over grimes every day of the week in any position. you want pace plenty of run some accountability and good delivery or do you want grimes.
cory ellis in for the injured lambert. an inside mid with good skills a kid starting on a wing its ideal.
thomas for grigg id play thomas over the weak soft prick any day of the week. hes actually a big body inside that we dont have and he went okay last yr.
edwards for batchelor a mid for an unneeded defender who can play neither tall or sml well.
me im happy with those calls i think they actually improve us in most cases.
me id like to hear a reasoned response but i suppose thats too much to expect. cmon ive put it out there why we should. your poo pooing it how about you put out there why not point thru point or more to the point change thru change.
The three young players in Mckenzie, Ellis and Butler won't be played unless they do a Miles and force their way in with consistent VFL performances because the RFC believe they can make the finals.
You have also taken out four backman and only put in one.
I believe you should have another go at it as a 10 year old would find it hard to take it seriously
very well done chuck. your typical non answer and shows you have nfi at all and the only contribution you make is veiled cheap shots at those who at least have the balls to put it out there.
we all know butler mckenzie and ellis wont play, its not about what the club is going to do, a ten yr old can see that. its about the changes we would like to see done.
oh by the way the last time i looked mcintosh, vlastuin, astbury, rance deledio and morris have all played in defense.and apart from mcintosh have all played well in defense at afl level.
its fine we can all see now. you deep down wish to continue with the petterds houlis griggs newmans lloyds chaplins batchelors grimes lloyds gordons. i just wish you would get off the fence and come out and support em . or at least form an opinion on a topic.
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i can think of 8 changes
astbury - chaplin
deledio - grimes
c ellis - lambert
knights - petterd
mckenzie - newman
thomas - grigg
butler - lloyd
edwards - batchelor
fb: morris - astbury - vlastuin. morris goes back to his normal role drop mcintosh back to h/b. bring deledio in for run delivery and pace.
hb:mcintosh - rance - deledio.
mid: c ellis - cotchin - hunt. bring the young ellis in and give him a wing.
foll: maric - martin - miles. very tempted to put hamspud in.hes on the list gotta play him sooner or later.
hf: knights - riewoldt - edwards. knights is a monty edwards and butler to round out the sml fwd spots. time to see what butler can do its time to play some kids. mckenzie instead of vickery
ff: griffiths - mckenzie - butler.
int: houli - thomas - gordon - b ellis. soft weak efforts should never be tolerated give ellis a warning by making him sub.
debut c ellis, butler, and mckenzie.
that will send a message to the whole freakin lot of em.
Not in a million years would hardwit deviate so auspiciously
That's great news
If the time came that any coach of the RFC thought along the same thought patterns as you and Claw I know the time has come to renounce my tiger membership
all good chucky your entitled to your opinion.
me i think of those 8 changes there is really only a risk or a bit of punt taking with two. butler and mckenzie.imo the rest are logical and speak for themselves.
the reasons behind wanting to play butler and mckenzie are simple.
i would never play vickery again until he fixes his weaknesses and for once in his career is forced to play damn good footy in the twos for a prolonged period and earn a spot. i have no doubt it is time to treat many of our players this way.
i also think three talls is the way to structure up hence id throw mckenzie in the deep end. he may be young and raw, but he at least has the physical attributes to play seniors .he cant really do much worse than what we have been served up over the yrs from some pretty ordinary players. ffs give him a few games if he goes okay we win if he struggles we win he has had the experience.
atm id give him newmans spot we get nothing from him and it enables us to go taller. again what is there to lose. we drop an old hack who should have retired yrs ago and we do something to help structure and give a kid experience.
butler geez hes quick, he lays good tackles works hard without the ball and knows where the goals are. its time to find a bloody good sml fwd aand he has the attributes. throw him in i reckon he has a better chance to shine with our better players around him than being stuck in the twos with the hacks getting belted each week, the same goes for mckenzie.
butler comes in for lloyd. last time i looked we play a bloke fwd because we lack pace and defensive pressure. lloyd is a part of that problem his pace or lack there of hurts us.
the last time i looked and its been an ongoing problem our fwd line is shizen and reliant on one player. we play one of our key fwds in the ruck for chunks of games leaving just one tall fwd and i cant remember the last time we had a 40 plus goal kicking sml who also defends.
you dont think knights will help up fwd. petterd is out for months and knights is a better player. what is not to like about that. we do something about the fwd half again instead of sitting on our hands lamenting the state of affairs up fwd..we also find a bloke who can be a part of rotations.
im not overly intersted in wins they dont mean a thing and wont get us anywhere. winning with a squad that can achieves success is what its about. finding that squad takes precedence atm.
astbury or chaplin. one has shown he can play 1v1 against bigger kpfs pretty well he has a way to go still but hes better than chaplin surely. he may be a part of that squad that can achieve.
deledio over grimes every day of the week in any position. you want pace plenty of run some accountability and good delivery or do you want grimes.
cory ellis in for the injured lambert. an inside mid with good skills a kid starting on a wing its ideal.
thomas for grigg id play thomas over the weak soft prick any day of the week. hes actually a big body inside that we dont have and he went okay last yr.
edwards for batchelor a mid for an unneeded defender who can play neither tall or sml well.
me im happy with those calls i think they actually improve us in most cases.
me id like to hear a reasoned response but i suppose thats too much to expect. cmon ive put it out there why we should. your poo pooing it how about you put out there why not point thru point or more to the point change thru change.
The three young players in Mckenzie, Ellis and Butler won't be played unless they do a Miles and force their way in with consistent VFL performances because the RFC believe they can make the finals.
You have also taken out four backman and only put in one.
I believe you should have another go at it as a 10 year old would find it hard to take it seriously
very well done chuck. your typical non answer and shows you have nfi at all and the only contribution you make is veiled cheap shots at those who at least have the balls to put it out there.
we all know butler mckenzie and ellis wont play, its not about what the club is going to do, a ten yr old can see that. its about the changes we would like to see done.
oh by the way the last time i looked mcintosh, vlastuin, astbury, rance deledio and morris have all played in defense.and apart from mcintosh have all played well in defense at afl level.
its fine we can all see now. you deep down wish to continue with the petterds houlis griggs newmans lloyds chaplins batchelors grimes lloyds gordons. i just wish you would get off the fence and come out and support em . or at least form an opinion on a topic.
I do support them, I am Grigg's number 1 fan on this site.
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Dimma confirmed that Lids won't play this week.
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Dimma confirmed that Lids won't play this week.
What about Edwards?
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Surely McDonough is in
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I expect Knights and McDonough will come in but that wont help us pace wise. In time we have to hope that Menadue and Butler come in and give us some pace. We are slow as treacle.