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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: tony_montana on April 12, 2015, 12:45:07 PM

Title: Our Tackling
Post by: tony_montana on April 12, 2015, 12:45:07 PM
Do people still think it's not a concern?
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: Zlatan on April 12, 2015, 12:59:35 PM
0 tackles for first 1/8th of the contest  :gotigers
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: Willy on April 12, 2015, 01:20:26 PM
Big problem. As is pressure, right across the ground.

We desperately need some pace in the forward line.
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: The Big Richo on April 12, 2015, 06:56:05 PM
It depends on the game style we are implementing.

Hawthorn don't tackle a lot and that is fine because they play the way the coach wants them too.

I suspect Hardwick wants us to tackle more, but is unable to get the players to do it.
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: the claw on April 12, 2015, 07:02:02 PM
Do people still think it's not a concern?
was thinking about a thread like this myself.
geez we are poor in some areas. we have long been shizen with our attack at the body and tackling.  you know what one sure way of stopping a players run is constantly banging him into the ground.
i dont think i have ever called for hardwicks head but we just continue to do so many basic things poorly that i think its time for a change. tackling is just one area that just doesnt change.

it really is madnees for us to do the same things over and over and expect different results. if we cant even admit theres a problem we certainly remain doomed to keep on failing.
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 12, 2015, 07:31:38 PM
One of the three biggest problems we have.
The other two being not working hard enough both ways and no being direct enough with the ball in hand.

I'm not sure if it is the coaching or the personnel or both but something has to happen. We need to start playing unsociable football.
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on April 12, 2015, 07:44:02 PM
Our tackling is Brent A  Prismall
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 12, 2015, 07:53:37 PM
No one likes to admit it but we are still the Egg team.
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: one-eyed on April 12, 2015, 08:56:17 PM
Bulldogs ruckman Will Minson said that four quarter pressure was a big focus for his side coming into the clash against last year’s finallists.

“We were certainly aware that they (Richmond) played a low tackle game last week so we knew that if we put in a lot of tackles it would be something different for them.”

http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2015-04-12/four-quarter-pressure

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For the record ...

Round 1:  the top tackling side won 6 of the 9 matches for the round.
               Four clubs had less tackles for the round than we did (GWS, St K, North & Freo).
               Our tackling differential was -6 ..... (51 - 57)

Round 2:  the top tackling side won 7 of the 9 matches for the round.
               Just two clubs had less tackles for the round than we did (West Coast & Carlton).
               Our tackling differenial was -22 ..... (51 - 73)
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on April 12, 2015, 10:01:09 PM
I think the stat I heard was you win 85% of games where you win the contested ball and tackle count
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: Diocletian on April 12, 2015, 10:18:39 PM
If basic, fundamental things such as tackling, shepherding & defensive running haven't improved in a coach's sixth year with a side then it's highly unlikely that they ever will while that coach remains in charge.
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 12, 2015, 10:34:50 PM
If basic, fundamental things such as tackling, shepherding & defensive running haven't improved in a coach's sixth year with a side then it's highly unlikely that they ever will while that coach remains in charge.
Hardwick has failed as have the recruiting department and the player development department despite the money, facilities and resources the club has provided the whole football department.

There aren't any excuses for these fellows anymore.
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: tony_montana on April 12, 2015, 10:53:39 PM
If basic, fundamental things such as tackling, shepherding & defensive running haven't improved in a coach's sixth year with a side then it's highly unlikely that they ever will while that coach remains in charge.

That's pretty much my sentiments and hence I have more or less made my mind up on dimma.
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: Lozza on April 12, 2015, 10:55:36 PM
There are a few players who make a token effort to tackle because they are lazy, this includes diving to tackle as the opposition player changes direction, saw this on a few occasions against the Dogs. Have never seen anyone tackle someone while in midair so basically they are taking themselves out of play and don't have to chase. When we lost those games early last season i thought the talk among the players in order to turn things around was to have higher standard both in their training and on field, to me too may players are currently in cruise mode and not willing to do the hard yards. If Hardwick doesn't make a statement at the selection table then his days are definitely numbered given his "favourites" simply don't have what it takes to take the club to the next level.
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: Willy on April 12, 2015, 10:55:58 PM
If basic, fundamental things such as tackling, shepherding & defensive running haven't improved in a coach's sixth year with a side then it's highly unlikely that they ever will while that coach remains in charge.

That's pretty much my sentiments and hence I have more or less made my mind up on dimma.

That's about where I'm at also. Well summed up by Dioc.
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 12, 2015, 11:55:14 PM
They do it for a while and then stop.

That how it is with things down there.
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: lamington on April 13, 2015, 11:48:28 AM
If you don't have the ball. Tackle the person with the ball. It's not rocket science.

I don't mind the 'less tackling style' when we control possession and can cover heaps of ground with long precise kicking. But if you don't have ball in hand you have to tackle. it's unforgivable that Chaplin, Batchelor, and Grimes laid no tackles considering how many times the ball ended up in our D50
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on March 11, 2016, 12:13:52 AM
Hasn't improved.
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: Diocletian on March 11, 2016, 12:27:20 AM
...and 7 years in it's not going to....
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 11, 2016, 07:00:26 AM
Hasn't improved.

Actually was very good for the first half, hunted in packs

But once the heads dropped so did the pressure. Has always been the case when things go pear shaped we don't tackle or apply defensive pressure
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: Stalin on March 11, 2016, 09:05:05 AM
They do it for a while and then stop.

That how it is with things down there.

Not fit enough
Title: Re: Our Tackling
Post by: MintOnLamb on March 11, 2016, 12:43:09 PM
Didn't see the game but this thread is disturbing.

Do you think this game really meant nothing?

Would you not think that blokes who are in the mix for a game would try to impress?

Did Dimma say, don't go hard at it lets just get through this NAB BS so we can start preparing for the season proper?

We have been working on our tackling and 2 way play offensive and defensive second efforts and want to keep this up our sleeve so no one knows how tough we are really going to be this year??