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Title: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 12, 2015, 01:36:37 PM
Okay so could someone with a bit of intel on the RFC tell me who are our assistant coaches, esp our forward coach who must be sacked immediately.

IIRC we lost Leppa and Campbell and replaced them with SFA in 2014 and only grabbed Rutten at the end of 2014.

We also have choco who was/is unwell so surely we have tried to ease the load on him?

I am just curious what Peggy Sue and Brendan Fail do with the funds if they are not spending it on assistant coaches

Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 12, 2015, 01:41:24 PM
We don't have any. Dimma is doing 3 jobs to save some money. As you can see we are delivering results this way and there's no need to stuff around with a winning formula.
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Zlatan on April 12, 2015, 02:36:29 PM
worrying
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on April 12, 2015, 03:52:55 PM
We don't have any. Dimma is doing 3 jobs to save some money. As you can see we are delivering results this way and there's no need to stuff around with a winning formula.

Don't think that is the case
All positions have been filled and have been for past 3 years
Dimma is the Senior Coach and that's it
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 12, 2015, 04:30:03 PM
We don't have any. Dimma is doing 3 jobs to save some money. As you can see we are delivering results this way and there's no need to stuff around with a winning formula.

Don't think that is the case
All positions have been filled and have been for past 3 years
Dimma is the Senior Coach and that's it

Leppa and Campbell left after 2013 and were replaced by who Jack?

We are effectively 2/3 short as i dont believe Mark Williams provides anything in helping with our forward structure

Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: RedanTiger on April 13, 2015, 07:21:06 PM
Okay so could someone with a bit of intel on the RFC tell me who are our assistant coaches, esp our forward coach who must be sacked immediately.

IIRC we lost Leppa and Campbell and replaced them with SFA in 2014 and only grabbed Rutten at the end of 2014.

We also have choco who was/is unwell so surely we have tried to ease the load on him?

I am just curious what Peggy Sue and Brendan Fail do with the funds if they are not spending it on assistant coaches

There is a Richmond website with a list of all staff. It might be an idea if you bothered to go there firstly.
Mark (the lesser) Wiliams, sacked from Melbourne, was employed while Cameron was still at Richmond and has been our forward coach since.
We gave Smith a job as an extra coach when he was replaced by Beveridge at Hawthorn and he took Leppa's spot a year later but has reverted to a general defensive role with Rutten's appointment last year.
Campbell had not coached for a period of at least a year when he left. He had been setting up the reserves structure.
Mellor and Choco had Bailey and McQualter added to them as development coaches before last year.
Daly also left to go to Lions end of last year with Leppa.
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 13, 2015, 07:48:41 PM
Okay so could someone with a bit of intel on the RFC tell me who are our assistant coaches, esp our forward coach who must be sacked immediately.

IIRC we lost Leppa and Campbell and replaced them with SFA in 2014 and only grabbed Rutten at the end of 2014.

We also have choco who was/is unwell so surely we have tried to ease the load on him?

I am just curious what Peggy Sue and Brendan Fail do with the funds if they are not spending it on assistant coaches

There is a Richmond website with a list of all staff. It might be an idea if you bothered to go there firstly.
Mark (the lesser) Wiliams, sacked from Melbourne, was employed while Cameron was still at Richmond and has been our forward coach since.
We gave Smith a job as an extra coach when he was replaced by Beveridge at Hawthorn and he took Leppa's spot a year later but has reverted to a general defensive role with Rutten's appointment last year.
Campbell had not coached for a period of at least a year when he left. He had been setting up the reserves structure.
Mellor and Choco had Bailey and McQualter added to them as development coaches before last year.
Daly also left to go to Lions end of last year with Leppa.

sorry red i was being sarcastic as i knew who the coaches were, i should have articulated it a little clearer. I just forgot about Daly  :thumbsup
 
I really thought someone could have given me something that i may have missed, which clearly i haven't. We are 2 less coaches down from 2013. Dev coaches are not assistant coaches so basically we lose daly and replace him with rutten and mcqualter, straight of school.

The admin department and those in charge have most probably given themselves a pay rise with all the money that us members pour into the club. I guess they thought after 2013 we are premiership bound so who needs to spend money on the coaching dep.



Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 13, 2015, 08:22:37 PM
What I love seeing at other clubs is how Ratten for example can go to Hawthorn and even though Clarko has won flags and Ratten hasn't he does not feel threatened in any way by him. Same for other former senior coaches at other clubs.

Whereas with Dimma we get blokes out of retirement and other than Ross Smith we have blokes who come to us as a first port of call and offer no experience in the box. Ross Smith may not have personal intentions to coach a senior side.

Does Dimma feel threatend by more experienced assistants that may? Clearly I think it does. Hence we get outcoached so often.
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: yellowandback on April 13, 2015, 08:46:28 PM
I'm not sure if you ar correct Don but it's a very good question that needs answering by our chief honchos. I hope we are challenging enough of each other as the club looks to take the next step from a mid table team to the being a top 4 team.
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: one-eyed on April 13, 2015, 09:56:52 PM
Our Coaches:

Senior Coach                 Damien Hardwick
Defensive Coach           Ross Smith
Midfield Stoppage Coach    Brendon Lade
Assistant Coach                    Ben Rutten
Offensive Coach                    Mark Williams
Senior Development Coach    Mark 'Choco' Williams
Assistant Coach                    Greg Mellor
Development Coach            Max Bailey
Development Coach            Andrew McQualter
VFL Coach                                 Tim Clarke
Physical Performance Manager   Peter Burge
Rehabilitation & Conditioning Coach  Luke Meehan
Strength & Conditioning Coach    Adam Douglas
Boxing Coach                            John Vickery

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/staff-members
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: MintOnLamb on April 14, 2015, 11:13:05 AM
Our Coaches:

Senior Coach                 Damien Hardwick
Defensive Coach           Ross Smith
Midfield Stoppage Coach    Brendon Lade
Assistant Coach                    Ben Rutten
Offensive Coach                    Mark Williams
Senior Development Coach    Mark 'Choco' Williams
Assistant Coach                    Greg Mellor
Development Coach            Max Bailey
Development Coach            Andrew McQualter
VFL Coach                                 Tim Clarke
Physical Performance Manager   Peter Burge
Rehabilitation & Conditioning Coach  Luke Meehan
Strength & Conditioning Coach    Adam Douglas
Boxing Coach                            John Vickery

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/staff-members

They almost have the numbers to field a team
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Damo on April 14, 2015, 11:19:08 AM
Rutten and Bailey would slot into our best 22 this week
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 14, 2015, 01:14:35 PM
Our Coaches:

Senior Coach                 Damien Hardwick
Defensive Coach           Ross Smith
Midfield Stoppage Coach    Brendon Lade
Assistant Coach                    Ben Rutten
Offensive Coach                    Mark Williams
Senior Development Coach    Mark 'Choco' Williams
Assistant Coach                    Greg Mellor
Development Coach            Max Bailey
Development Coach            Andrew McQualter
VFL Coach                                 Tim Clarke
Physical Performance Manager   Peter Burge
Rehabilitation & Conditioning Coach  Luke Meehan
Strength & Conditioning Coach    Adam Douglas
Boxing Coach                            John Vickery

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/staff-members
So many meh
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 25, 2015, 08:27:17 AM
Bump

The wonderful and extremely professional decision to only replace one of Leppa, Campo and daly with Hudson has done wonders for our kids development over the years

Sack Tim Clarke now. Loss to coburg last week and in general our development is proving more and more each day he is clueless too like his hawthorn buddy dimwit

Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on April 25, 2015, 08:29:04 AM
16 on that list
I believe that only 3-4 have any idea
The rest have zero
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on April 25, 2015, 08:33:35 AM
Brendan Lade .Lol
Job for the " boys "
Asked him in Adelaide after the final last year why we kicked against the wind and he stated " we kicked with the wind didn't we ?
He had no idea
Strategically Smith and Wilbur Williams have some idea
The rest would have little and are there for the ride
Will all get moved on but guess what , they will bob up at another club ala Brian Royal
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: sugark on April 25, 2015, 08:42:05 AM
Brendan Lade .Lol
Job for the " boys "
Asked him in Adelaide after the final last year why we kicked against the wind and he stated " we kicked with the wind didn't we ?
He had no idea
Strategically Smith and Wilbur Williams have some idea
The rest would have little and are there for the ride
Will all get moved on but guess what , they will bob up at another club ala Brian Royal

Who is the little fat fella working with the forwards at qtr and 3 qtr time last night
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: No More on April 25, 2015, 08:55:59 AM
Our Coaches:

Senior Coach                 Damien Hardwick
Defensive Coach           Ross Smith
Midfield Stoppage Coach    Brendon Lade
Assistant Coach                    Ben Rutten
Offensive Coach                    Mark Williams
Senior Development Coach    Mark 'Choco' Williams
Assistant Coach                    Greg Mellor
Development Coach            Max Bailey
Development Coach            Andrew McQualter
VFL Coach                                 Tim Clarke
Physical Performance Manager   Peter Burge
Rehabilitation & Conditioning Coach  Luke Meehan
Strength & Conditioning Coach    Adam Douglas
Boxing Coach                            John Vickery

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/staff-members

lets be honest about this the list doesn't give the supporters much hope I wouldn't have thought. I hope our money for the future fund hasn't gone to creating this list of coaches. dear oh dear. we are a rabble.
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: sugark on April 25, 2015, 09:02:59 AM
Our Coaches:

Senior Coach                 Damien Hardwick
Defensive Coach           Ross Smith
Midfield Stoppage Coach    Brendon Lade
Assistant Coach                    Ben Rutten
Offensive Coach                    Mark Williams
Senior Development Coach    Mark 'Choco' Williams
Assistant Coach                    Greg Mellor
Development Coach            Max Bailey
Development Coach            Andrew McQualter
VFL Coach                                 Tim Clarke
Physical Performance Manager   Peter Burge
Rehabilitation & Conditioning Coach  Luke Meehan
Strength & Conditioning Coach    Adam Douglas
Boxing Coach                            John Vickery

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/staff-members

lets be honest about this the list doesn't give the supporters much hope I wouldn't have thought. I hope our money for the future fund hasn't gone to creating this list of coaches. dear oh dear. we are a rabble.

I assume from that list the little fat fella I was referring to is Greg Mellor working with our forwards, well f#*+ me, it may as well be Giuseppe Mamone and his merry men
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: No More on April 25, 2015, 09:13:52 AM
from that list I would probably only keep Smith and maybe Mark Williams (ex Port Coach). that's all.
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: sugark on April 25, 2015, 09:16:17 AM
from that list I would probably only keep Smith and maybe Mark Williams (ex Port Coach). that's all.

Seriously, Ross Smith was a spud when he was coaching Aberfeldie, how on earth he is now supposed to be our "all things defensive" coach is an indictment on Hardwick and the club
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: No More on April 25, 2015, 09:18:56 AM
he seemed to start good when he began at Richmond. whats happened?
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 25, 2015, 09:22:10 AM
What I love seeing at other clubs is how Ratten for example can go to Hawthorn and even though Clarko has won flags and Ratten hasn't he does not feel threatened in any way by him. Same for other former senior coaches at other clubs.

Whereas with Dimma we get blokes out of retirement and other than Ross Smith we have blokes who come to us as a first port of call and offer no experience in the box. Ross Smith may not have personal intentions to coach a senior side.

Does Dimma feel threatend by more experienced assistants that may? Clearly I think it does. Hence we get outcoached so often.

This this this this this. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: sugark on April 25, 2015, 09:26:52 AM
he seemed to start good when he began at Richmond. whats happened?

That was Leppitsch's doing
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: No More on April 25, 2015, 09:28:29 AM
he seemed to start good when he began at Richmond. whats happened?

That was Leppitsch's doing

well ok then he can get the arze as well  ;D
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 25, 2015, 09:57:04 AM
What I love seeing at other clubs is how Ratten for example can go to Hawthorn and even though Clarko has won flags and Ratten hasn't he does not feel threatened in any way by him. Same for other former senior coaches at other clubs.

Whereas with Dimma we get blokes out of retirement and other than Ross Smith we have blokes who come to us as a first port of call and offer no experience in the box. Ross Smith may not have personal intentions to coach a senior side.

Does Dimma feel threatend by more experienced assistants that may? Clearly I think it does. Hence we get outcoached so often.

This this this this this. :thumbsup
Lol!

It's getting that bad we are giving ourselves the thumbs up! :lol
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 25, 2015, 10:16:25 AM
Hahahaha
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: No More on April 25, 2015, 10:26:34 AM
What I love seeing at other clubs is how Ratten for example can go to Hawthorn and even though Clarko has won flags and Ratten hasn't he does not feel threatened in any way by him. Same for other former senior coaches at other clubs.

Whereas with Dimma we get blokes out of retirement and other than Ross Smith we have blokes who come to us as a first port of call and offer no experience in the box. Ross Smith may not have personal intentions to coach a senior side.

Does Dimma feel threatend by more experienced assistants that may? Clearly I think it does. Hence we get outcoached so often.

This this this this this. :thumbsup
Lol!

It's getting that bad we are giving ourselves the thumbs up! :lol

Its all part of the show here on OER  :snidegrin
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 25, 2015, 10:46:16 AM
Atleast Dimma is comfy in his chair.
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Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: TigerLand on April 25, 2015, 10:52:00 AM
Where is Lenny Hayes.

Saw him watching the Rich v Dogs game in the nose bleeds by himself (was only highlight of the day) was interesting. Would be a great assistant and help develop some leadership
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: tdy on April 25, 2015, 10:53:32 AM
The results of lades work this year has been poor. Maric wins the tap. They get the ball or no one does. Its been pretty awful. No protection for cotch.
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: TigerLand on April 25, 2015, 10:54:21 AM
Agree tdy
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: The Big Richo on April 25, 2015, 02:37:48 PM
Senior Coach                Damien Hardwick
Defensive Coach           Ross Smith
Midfield Stoppage Coach    Brendon Lade
Assistant Coach                    Ben Rutten
Offensive Coach                    Mark Williams
Senior Development Coach    Mark 'Choco' Williams
Assistant Coach                    Greg Mellor
Development Coach            Max Bailey
Development Coach            Andrew McQualter
VFL Coach                                Tim Clarke
Physical Performance Manager   Peter Burge
Rehabilitation & Conditioning Coach  Luke Meehan
Strength & Conditioning Coach    Adam Douglas
Boxing Coach                            John Vickery

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/staff-members

That would be my changes.

Dump stuff Jackson, Hartley, Dan Richardson and Brendon Gale.

Bring in Bomber, Brenton Sanderson as footy manager, Pelchen as List Manager, Stephen Wells to recruit, Bryan Cook as CEO and let Bomber choose the assistants and fitness staff he wants.
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Diocletian on April 25, 2015, 02:44:35 PM
Senior Coach                Damien Hardwick
Defensive Coach           Ross Smith
Midfield Stoppage Coach    Brendon Lade
Assistant Coach                    Ben Rutten
Offensive Coach                    Mark Williams
Senior Development Coach    Mark 'Choco' Williams
Assistant Coach                    Greg Mellor
Development Coach            Max Bailey
Development Coach            Andrew McQualter
VFL Coach                                Tim Clarke
Physical Performance Manager   Peter Burge
Rehabilitation & Conditioning Coach  Luke Meehan
Strength & Conditioning Coach    Adam Douglas
Boxing Coach                            John Vickery

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/staff-members

That would be my changes.

Dump stuff Jackson, Hartley, Dan Richardson and Brendon Gale.

Bring in Bomber, Brenton Sanderson as footy manager, Pelchen as List Manager, Stephen Wells to recruit, Bryan Cook as CEO and let Bomber choose the assistants and fitness staff he wants.

Bomber - overrated & past it, hates Richmond ,  - would be Walls all over again.

Sanderson - softy ball cupper even worse than Hardwick.

Pelican - the most overrated stuffing list manager since Miller.

Wells - ahahahahahahaha!!

Cook - No chance and his glories are nearly a decade old now.

Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 02, 2015, 09:14:34 PM
So WP please tell us who replaced campo in 2013 and who repalced leppa and Daly.

You may brush it off as being not important but IMO it shows a lack of professionalism, and further proof the RFC think we are going that good that we didnt need to spend



Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Chuck17 on May 02, 2015, 09:15:55 PM
Sack the bums
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 02, 2015, 10:26:28 PM
So WP please tell us who replaced campo in 2013 and who repalced leppa and Daly.

You may brush it off as being not important but IMO it shows a lack of professionalism, and further proof the RFC think we are going that good that we didnt need to spend

Don't know how many times I have to repeat it Angus, why you won't accept it (well actually I know why you won't but won't go there) but here you go again? In the last the last 18 months Wayne Campbell was at club he was not, repeat WAS NOT coaching. He was setting up the VFL side. From a coaching perspective he was replaced at a development level by Mellor at the end of 2012

Think you will find that somewhere in there around 2012-2013 Choco Williams came on board

Agree they didn't replace Leppa last year have never said they did.

Daly left at the end of 2014 and was replaced by Rutten, who I'd argue will be long term a better coach than Daly. Was a very good player and offers a lot

Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 02, 2015, 10:48:13 PM


Campbell was not replaced and i am sorry i dont buy into that for 18 months he was not an assistant, and merely setting up an VFL side. On many occasions in 2012 he was in the box and from what i recall he worked on the opposition.

Also replacing him at a development level is not what i term as being replaced like for like.

Il stand by my comments we are 2 assistant coaches short than that 2013 when we finished 5th.

Daly was the only one replaced and that was with Rutten, who IMO should have gone straight into a  development role as IMO he too looks out of his depth given the plight of our rucks this year.





Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 02, 2015, 10:57:44 PM


Campbell was not replaced and i am sorry i dont buy into that for 18 months he was not an assistant, and merely setting up an VFL side. On many occasions in 2012 he was in the box and from what i recall he worked on the opposition.

You many not "buy" it but it was Campbell who actually said it, he was the one who said was what his role was at the time. So I buy it because he said it

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Also replacing him at a development level is not what i term as being replaced like for like.

Il stand by my comments we are 2 assistant coaches short than that 2013 when we finished 5th.


So now it's not about numbers it's about like for like? Just so we are clear can you make up your mind what exactly your point is? Now it's like for like after all other posts have been about numbers. Numbers out -v- numbers in

FWIW and I am not saying I agree with the change but Mellor is no longer in development he has moved into an assistant role, sits in the box on match day

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Daly was the only one replaced and that was with Rutten, who IMO should have gone straight into a  development role as IMO he too looks out of his depth given the plight of our rucks this year.

If he was working with the rucks I'd agree but seeing he isn't then that's a flawed argument.
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 02, 2015, 11:08:40 PM
no its about like for like replacements, wake up WP you must be tired.

if it was about numbers i would have included those other 2 gems we poached in mclovin and bailey from the hawks.

Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Diocletian on May 03, 2015, 01:20:04 AM
Angus is right - give it up WP.

Sack the bums

Bum the sacks.
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Stalin on August 29, 2015, 11:23:52 PM
John Barker does not want to stay at carlton after missing the job

wants to go to a top side, in order to have sucess and then get selected as a senior coach

fits the bill i reckon
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 29, 2015, 11:26:09 PM
John Barker does not want to stay at carlton after missing the job

wants to go to a top side, in order to have sucess and then get selected as a senior coach

fits the bill i reckon

where did you hear this?
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Stalin on August 29, 2015, 11:27:02 PM
John Barker does not want to stay at carlton after missing the job

wants to go to a top side, in order to have sucess and then get selected as a senior coach

fits the bill i reckon

where did you hear this?

he did an interview on the radio

abc i think
Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 01, 2016, 09:12:32 PM
what an awesome professional bunch we have down at punt road.

lets dissect each of them one by one and the 2 that replaced campbell and leppa.

lets start with the Williams x 2, especially the one that looks like a clown.





Title: Re: Assistant Coaches
Post by: Stalin on May 01, 2016, 09:15:52 PM
Senior Coach                Damien Hardwick
Defensive Coach           Ross Smith
Midfield Stoppage Coach    Brendon Lade
Assistant Coach                    Ben Rutten
Offensive Coach                    Mark Williams
Senior Development Coach    Mark 'Choco' Williams
Assistant Coach                    Greg Mellor
Development Coach            Max Bailey
Development Coach            Andrew McQualter
VFL Coach                                Tim Clarke
Physical Performance Manager   Peter Burge
Rehabilitation & Conditioning Coach  Luke Meehan
Strength & Conditioning Coach    Adam Douglas
Boxing Coach                            John Vickery

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/staff-members

That would be my changes.

Dump stuff Jackson, Hartley, Dan Richardson and Brendon Gale.

Bring in Bomber, Brenton Sanderson as footy manager, Pelchen as List Manager, Stephen Wells to recruit, Bryan Cook as CEO and let Bomber choose the assistants and fitness staff he wants.

I understand the thought process of a 'thinktank' to conclude our ass-coaches need improving on ...

Yet Dimma too is a fool and insufficient