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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 09, 2015, 10:30:30 PM
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Dimma's post-match presser ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-05-09/round-6-hardwick-post-match
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Disappointed Hardwick flags changes for Pies clash
Stu Warren
afl.com.au
May 9, 2015 6:55 PM
WITH its 2015 ledger teetering at 2-4 after six rounds, Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has flagged several changes for next Sunday's blockbuster against Collingwood.
Speaking in the wake of a disappointing 35-point loss to the Kangaroos in Hobart on Saturday that saw his team concede 92 points from turnovers, Hardwick was in no mood to make excuses for his side's sub-standard performance.
"We've just got to take stock, look at the tape, find out guys playing at our VFL level, which had a good win today, who can take us forward," he said.
"The inconsistency of performance of some of our players is not good enough. We've got to find players that are prepared to put their hand up and play the Richmond way.
"I'll still back all of my players in. At stages they can play better than what they have today, there's no doubt about that, but we also have to be looking forward to those players who are prepared to play how we want to play, take the game on and play at a standard that's acceptable at AFL level.
"We've just got to make sure we continue to blood those players and get them into the side."
Having seen his side concede seven goals in the third term through a mixture of ill-discipline, poor disposal and costly turnovers, Hardwick savaged his side's poor concentration and inconsistency following the 35-point defeat.
"It's a hard one to fathom," he said.
"You look at it, but at the end of the day it comes down a to a 15-minute block in the third quarter.
"They had nine inside entries for the quarter and they kicked 7.2. Some of them from our horrible turnovers and the game is all of a sudden out of reach. Turnovers. They were horrible turnovers you can't defend."
Despite being one of the better Richmond players on the day, midfielder Dustin Martin was singled out by Hardwick for twice conceding possession and goals to the Kangaroos.
"Dustin Martin did some really good things, gets two balls and kicks them across goals, too long a switch, ball gets shut down and our defenders can't defend that. It just goes straight through the sticks, you might as well line up at the centre bounce," Hardwick said.
"It's not what we ask him to do, it's not what he normally does, and unfortunately if you don't play the team structure you get kicked in the backside."
With Ben Griffiths in doubt following a concussion suffered during the first quarter on Saturday, Hardwick mentioned maligned tall forward Ty Vickery as one player that may be recalled in a bid to bolster a struggling forward set-up.
"Ty brings some things to the table that we like and he also has some areas he needs to improve," he said.
"We've got to continue to delve with those, continue to develop them and get them better."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-09/disappointed-hardwick-flags-changes-for-pies-clash
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Delusional........Vickery....pffffft.....
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Give Vickery another go. Chance number 890.
Last year the Collingwood game we kick 3 goals to 3/4 time and the biggest cheer of the night was when they announced he was subbed early in the third.
How about playing McBean. Kids been kicking goals in the ressies. Has form.
Play him next week. Let him debut against an AFL powerhouse and sample the big time.
I'd rather have someone not ready who has to learn to swim than someone who can't or doesn't want to because he knows the kickboard and floaties are available to him.
Already stuffed for next week.
Why earmark changes. We know what they are and final selection is 5 days away.
Yeah I'm upset too about Martin's turnovers, how about Grigg's or Vlaustin's, Morris, Gordon's or those little kick it to me kicks from Cotch. This guy has run his race. It's over.
Everything about him, coaching us, game style, selection has that glum, lost feeling bereft of ideas.
Play McBean. Please. No Vickery. Please , Please, Please. :help
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Give Vickery another go. Chance number 890.
Last year the Collingwood game we kick 3 goals to 3/4 time and the biggest cheer of the night was when they announced he was subbed early in the third.
How about playing McBean. Kids been kicking goals in the ressies. Has form.
Play him next week. Let him debut against an AFL powerhouse and sample the big time.
I'd rather have someone not ready who has to learn to swim than someone who can't or doesn't want to because he knows the kickboard and floaties are available to him.
Already stuffed for next week.
Why earmark changes. We know what they are and final selection is 5 days away.
Yeah I'm upset too about Martin's turnovers, how about Grigg's or Vlaustin's, Morris, Gordon's or those little kick it to me kicks from Cotch. This guy has run his race. It's over.
Everything about him, coaching us, game style, selection has that glum, lost feeling bereft of ideas.
Play McBean. Please. No Vickery. Please , Please, Please. :help
na just delist him like Helbig and Darrou
dont want him talking away games from the core group; Chaplin, Grigg, Newman etc.
leaders
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The problem now is that Hardwick is in save career mode, he wont bring in youth because he knows a huge loss could mean an early exit. No he will play safe and keep his favourites in the side thinking that things will simply turnaround, call it delusional, i call it selfish and in that category you can include Newman who should have retired last season. Self preservation will only harm the future development of the team so some hard decisions need to be made now or the pain we supporters are feeling now is going to go on for at least another 5 year rebuild.
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Thing is I not sure anyone has a clue what "playing the Richmond way" outside of folding like a deck of cards in 15-20 minute burst that has cost us at least 3 possibly 4 games this year.
I'd much prefer our team play the way St Kilda did today, they played for pride in their club and jumper and look what happened. I'd settle for that rather than the curre "Richmond way" and I hate the Saints
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The problem now is that Hardwick is in save career mode, he wont bring in youth because he knows a huge loss could mean an early exit. No he will play safe and keep his favourites in the side thinking that things will simply turnaround, call it delusional, i call it selfish and in that category you can include Newman who should have retired last season. Self preservation will only harm the future development of the team so some hard decisions need to be made now or the pain we supporters are feeling now is going to go on for at least another 5 year rebuild.
Now?
hes been in it for years
dont blood the kids - i might get sacked
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Give up....McBean is already ruined by the career killer that is the RFC.
There's no hope for him now.....(http://rockchat.net/smilies/funeral.gif)
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Give up....McBean is already ruined by the career killer that is the RFC.
There's no hope for him now.....(http://rockchat.net/smilies/funeral.gif)
hes leading the VFL coleman?
what should we do???
dont play him
play sam Lloyd as the third tall :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Give up....McBean is already ruined by the career killer that is the RFC.
There's no hope for him now.....(http://rockchat.net/smilies/funeral.gif)
hes leading the VFL coleman?
what should we do???
dont play him
play sam Lloyd as the third tall :clapping :clapping :clapping
May as well keep playing Lloyd.
Lloyd is the typological tigerland hero.
Build an ornament for him to go with the Menegola's, Plapp's & Jurica's.
Only this club can get excited about one trick pony's that have tantalized us with a modicum of consistency at VFL level. I still get goosebumps when I think of our great defensive hope Sylvester.
My point though was that McBeans career is doomed at this club.
RFC. killing the careers of players & coaches for 34 years....
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Damien Hardwick seething after sloppy Tigers fall to Kangaroos
Jesse Hogan
The Age
May 10, 2015
Exasperated Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has flagged scouring their VFL team for reinforcements able to follow his instructions after a horror end to the third quarter gifted North Melbourne a 35-point win in Hobart.
Hardwick bemoaned how the Tigers had, after a tight first half at Blundstone Arena, trailed the Kangaroos by only four points 11 minutes into the third quarter yet by three-quarter-time were down by 44.
"Consistency of performance is what we're after. Unfortunately this week, like last week, [there was a pivotal lapse]. A 15-minute block this week, an eight-minute block last week, the game's shot," he said.
"It's a hard one to fathom . . . at the end of the day it comes down to a 15-minute block in the third quarter. I think they had nine inside[-50] entries for the quarter and they kicked 7.2, some of them from our horrible turnovers, and the game is all of a sudden out of reach."
Senior players including Brett Deledio and Ivan Maric were to blame for some of those third-quarter turnovers, while Dustin Martin was singled out by his coach despite snaring an equal team-high 30 disposals.
"We had Dustin Martin, who did some really good things, gets two balls and kicks them across goals, too long to switch, the ball gets shut down. Our defenders can't defend that. It just goes straight through the sticks. You might as well line up at the centre bounce," he said.
"It's not what we ask him to do and it's not what he normally does, but unfortunately if you don't play to the team structure you get kicked in the backside."
Both coaches, Hardwick and North's Brad Scott, questioned the significance of inside-50 entries, both in terms of this match - the Tigers led 50:41 - and the season so far.
"You'd probably say so, because I think we're ranked No.2 for inside-50 differentials, and we had a number of players off turnover that hurt us," Hardwick said.
"What probably is killing us is . . . our forward line at the moment is not getting the job done. We're getting ample opportunities. Whether it's [thwarted] from our last disposal inside 50, whether it's our ability to hold a mark or ability to win the contested ball, we've got various issues - and a lot of sides are the same."
Hardwick did not reject the suggestion he may be forced into paring back his expectations for the team given their poor starts to 2014 and this season, too.
"It's an interesting one. We've just got to take stock, we've got to look at the tape, we've got to find guys playing at our VFL level - they had a good win today - that are capable of taking us forward, because at the moment the inconsistency of performance of some of our players is not good enough. We've got to find players that are prepared to put their hand up and play the Richmond way," he said.
"I'll still back all of my players in. At stages they can play better than what they have today - there's no doubt about that - but we've also got to be looking forward to those players that are prepared to play how we want to play and take the game on and play at a standard that is acceptable at AFL level. We've just got to make sure we continue to blood those players and get them into the side."
Ty Vickery's chances of a recall were helped not only by the Tigers' struggle to score against North - they kicked only six in the first three quarters - but by Ben Griffiths being forced out of the game in the first quarter with suspected concussion after a collision.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/damien-hardwick-seething-after-sloppy-tigers-fall-to-kangaroos-20150509-ggxzrr.html
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"The inconsistency of performance of some of our players is not good enough. We've got to find players that are prepared to put their hand up and play the Richmond way.
Players must hear quotes like this and cringe. The rest of the AFL world would be laughing their arse off at this comment
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He keeps on harping about "looking at the tape"
That will be a great help.
play some kids persevere wth Lennon, give McBean the rest of the year in the seniors (not just 1 game)
Figure out how to motivate your team instead of reading a stats sheet and "looking at the tape"
He could go to the beach and "look at the line in the sand" for all the good he is doing at RFC, take Richardson, Hartley and Jackson with him as well!!!!
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giving guys like lennon and Arnot more than a game at a time would be a start...
giving McBean and Elton a decent run at it and banishing astbury and chaplin back to the reserves with a do not come back until you get fitter and sharper msg would be a start.
Putting Newman out to pasture effective immediately would be a start.
Telling Ty he's not a fwds ahole and that he has till seasons end to prove himself as a ruckman or he's gone would be a start.
Developing a new fwd line structure that doesn't involve hitting the stuffing pockets would be start..
Giving jack Reiwoldt free reign to do what he does best ie kick stuffing goals and forget this sharing around BS would be start....
and finally, go back to the free wheeling run and gun style we started with and forget this BS tempo footy we are clearly not suited to would be a start...
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giving guys like lennon and Arnot more than a game at a time would be a start...
giving McBean and Elton a decent run at it and banishing astbury and chaplin back to the reserves with a do not come back until you get fitter and sharper msg would be a start.
Putting Newman out to pasture effective immediately would be a start.
Telling Ty he's not a fwds ahole and that he has till seasons end to prove himself as a ruckman or he's gone would be a start.
Developing a new fwd line structure that doesn't involve hitting the stuffing pockets would be start..
Giving jack Reiwoldt free reign to do what he does best ie kick stuffing goals and forget this sharing around BS would be start....
and finally, go back to the free wheeling run and gun style we started with and forget this BS tempo footy we are clearly not suited to would be a start...
TM, agree with all, synopsis, unless we start, it will be the end
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giving guys like lennon and Arnot more than a game at a time would be a start...
giving McBean and Elton a decent run at it and banishing astbury and chaplin back to the reserves with a do not come back until you get fitter and sharper msg would be a start.
Putting Newman out to pasture effective immediately would be a start.
Telling Ty he's not a fwds ahole and that he has till seasons end to prove himself as a ruckman or he's gone would be a start.
Developing a new fwd line structure that doesn't involve hitting the stuffing pockets would be start..
Giving jack Reiwoldt free reign to do what he does best ie kick stuffing goals and forget this sharing around BS would be start....
and finally, go back to the free wheeling run and gun style we started with and forget this BS tempo footy we are clearly not suited to would be a start...
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and finally, go back to the free wheeling run and gun style we started with and forget this BS tempo footy we are clearly not suited to would be a start...
I reckon that's what they are trying to do either by coaches or the players and that's why we are seeing so many stupid handballs. Hardwick probably spent all pre season drilling into them a stupid game plan that might of worked 5 years ago but forgot that we had a game style that suited what the game evolved into. Now they are trying to bring it back but without the practice and the enormous pressure you get in AFL they are struggling.
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giving guys like lennon and Arnot more than a game at a time would be a start...
giving McBean and Elton a decent run at it and banishing astbury and chaplin back to the reserves with a do not come back until you get fitter and sharper msg would be a start.
Putting Newman out to pasture effective immediately would be a start.
Telling Ty he's not a fwds ahole and that he has till seasons end to prove himself as a ruckman or he's gone would be a start.
Developing a new fwd line structure that doesn't involve hitting the stuffing pockets would be start..
Giving jack Reiwoldt free reign to do what he does best ie kick stuffing goals and forget this sharing around BS would be start....
and finally, go back to the free wheeling run and gun style we started with and forget this BS tempo footy we are clearly not suited to would be a start...
Spot on TM! :clapping
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and finally, go back to the free wheeling run and gun style we started with and forget this BS tempo footy we are clearly not suited to would be a start...
I reckon that's what they are trying to do either by coaches or the players and that's why we are seeing so many stupid handballs. Hardwick probably spent all pre season drilling into them a stupid game plan that might of worked 5 years ago but forgot that we had a game style that suited what the game evolved into. Now they are trying to bring it back but without the practice and the enormous pressure you get in AFL they are struggling.
Agree. Think we are making a conscious effort to run and carry the ball more but it is resulting in these ridiculous handball chains that continually refer pressure. The turnovers and resulting goals yesterday were reminiscent of games we were losing 3 years ago.
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giving guys like lennon and Arnot more than a game at a time would be a start...
giving McBean and Elton a decent run at it and banishing astbury and chaplin back to the reserves with a do not come back until you get fitter and sharper msg would be a start.
Putting Newman out to pasture effective immediately would be a start.
Telling Ty he's not a fwds ahole and that he has till seasons end to prove himself as a ruckman or he's gone would be a start.
Developing a new fwd line structure that doesn't involve hitting the stuffing pockets would be start..
Giving jack Reiwoldt free reign to do what he does best ie kick stuffing goals and forget this sharing around BS would be start....
and finally, go back to the free wheeling run and gun style we started with and forget this BS tempo footy we are clearly not suited to would be a start...
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and finally, go back to the free wheeling run and gun style we started with and forget this BS tempo footy we are clearly not suited to would be a start...
I reckon that's what they are trying to do either by coaches or the players and that's why we are seeing so many stupid handballs. Hardwick probably spent all pre season drilling into them a stupid game plan that might of worked 5 years ago but forgot that we had a game style that suited what the game evolved into. Now they are trying to bring it back but without the practice and the enormous pressure you get in AFL they are struggling.
Agree. Think we are making a conscious effort to run and carry the ball more but it is resulting in these ridiculous handball chains that continually refer pressure. The turnovers and resulting goals yesterday were reminiscent of games we were losing 3 years ago.
i have no doubt that these ridiculous handball chains are in fact trying to achieve run and carry. It has clearly been drilled into them and sometimes it does actually work. Think of the three man weave training drill. when the players are actually moving and running similar lines, and more importantly are under little pressure it results in quick ball movement that creates an overlap.
But it falls down way to often, because the player receiving the ball is stationary, not running the correct line, or are under immediate pressure, or actually running into pressure.
Other times you can see when they handball forward to a stationary player facing the wrong way, the intent is to run on and get the old 1-2, or there is supposed to be another runner to receive the handball.
Again it does work sometimes, but generally when there is no pressure. Too often the player recieving the first handball is under pressure, which results in a rushed handball that is not pin point. If the reciever is under any sort of pressure, the handball nees to be pin point. When the opposition are good at putting blocks on to the runners, and they dont have to be much of a block, again it all falls down.
I cant see what is happening up the ground, but i could imagine players starting to lead when the ball carrier looks like he is clear, only for him to handball and then mess up the timing of the lead.
Alternatively the players are holding their leads expecting the unnecessary handballs, but either the ball is turned over or there is a rushed kick under pressure which hardly ever results in kicks to advantage.
It is just so frustrating to see so many players take possession and their first instinct to handball forwards, with no real regard if it is actually the correct option.
This whole thing falls down so often, the players soon confidence and suffer the rabbit in the headlights syndrome.
Then Hardwick has the gall to single out Dusty for trying to switch and create space with a kick. Perhaps he would be better drilling how to kick to advantage when switching rather how to handball to put teamates under pressure.
It seems to me that Hardwick is trying to implement something that works well when under no pressure, but falls down badly when the opposition can close the game up, thus Newmans comments about waiting for the game to open up after the Footscray game.
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giving guys like lennon and Arnot more than a game at a time would be a start...
giving McBean and Elton a decent run at it and banishing astbury and chaplin back to the reserves with a do not come back until you get fitter and sharper msg would be a start.
Putting Newman out to pasture effective immediately would be a start.
Telling Ty he's not a fwds ahole and that he has till seasons end to prove himself as a ruckman or he's gone would be a start.
Developing a new fwd line structure that doesn't involve hitting the stuffing pockets would be start..
Giving jack Reiwoldt free reign to do what he does best ie kick stuffing goals and forget this sharing around BS would be start....
and finally, go back to the free wheeling run and gun style we started with and forget this BS tempo footy we are clearly not suited to would be a start...
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This carrying the ball business reminds me of a clown in a circus juggling
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giving guys like lennon and Arnot more than a game at a time would be a start...
giving McBean and Elton a decent run at it and banishing astbury and chaplin back to the reserves with a do not come back until you get fitter and sharper msg would be a start.
Putting Newman out to pasture effective immediately would be a start.
Telling Ty he's not a fwds ahole and that he has till seasons end to prove himself as a ruckman or he's gone would be a start.
Developing a new fwd line structure that doesn't involve hitting the stuffing pockets would be start..
Giving jack Reiwoldt free reign to do what he does best ie kick stuffing goals and forget this sharing around BS would be start....
and finally, go back to the free wheeling run and gun style we started with and forget this BS tempo footy we are clearly not suited to would be a start...
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We get our share of the footy and have plenty of opportunity to score but it's our forward set up that is the problem IMO. Anyone who coaches to create a stoppage in their forwardline as their primary goals is destined to fail. How many time did we kick deep into a pocket yesterday?? To many to count.
Trust in your midfielder, centerline and backman to defend when the ball is rebounded out of our forwardline but at least give ourselves the best opportunity to score.
Create separation between forwards and keep it simple.
Dimma, watch what the good teams do, there is 8 other games a weekend to watch. Surely if every other club is doing it differently than you it might be time to suck it up and say you were wrong.
On another note, playing kids in our situation IMO is a get out of jail free card. As members and supporters we would be more sympathetic watching our team loose every week as long as we can see some point to it. But watching the same old poo just doesn't make anyone happy.
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giving guys like lennon and Arnot more than a game at a time would be a start...
giving McBean and Elton a decent run at it and banishing astbury and chaplin back to the reserves with a do not come back until you get fitter and sharper msg would be a start.
Putting Newman out to pasture effective immediately would be a start.
Telling Ty he's not a fwds ahole and that he has till seasons end to prove himself as a ruckman or he's gone would be a start.
Developing a new fwd line structure that doesn't involve hitting the stuffing pockets would be start..
Giving jack Reiwoldt free reign to do what he does best ie kick stuffing goals and forget this sharing around BS would be start....
and finally, go back to the free wheeling run and gun style we started with and forget this BS tempo footy we are clearly not suited to would be a start...
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Thing is I not sure anyone has a clue what "playing the Richmond way" outside of folding like a deck of cards in 15-20 minute burst that has cost us at least 3 possibly 4 games this year.
I'd much prefer our team play the way St Kilda did today, they played for pride in their club and jumper and look what happened. I'd settle for that rather than the curre "Richmond way" and I hate the Saints
Spot on WP
The Richmond Way... Please. No1 has any idea what that is. Even if the players did what evidence indicates that the Richmond way even works.
Where is the accountability of the coaches who have failed to get the players playing the Richmond way.
Ge very brave publicly pointing out Martin mistakes. Never hear the mistakes Grigg or House make. Pathetic leadership, no wonder Cotchin can't develop into a good leader with this idiot at the helm.
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if the Richmond way is what has transpired the past 30 years...then please spare us that
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giving guys like lennon and Arnot more than a game at a time would be a start...
giving McBean and Elton a decent run at it and banishing astbury and chaplin back to the reserves with a do not come back until you get fitter and sharper msg would be a start.
Putting Newman out to pasture effective immediately would be a start.
Telling Ty he's not a fwds ahole and that he has till seasons end to prove himself as a ruckman or he's gone would be a start.
Developing a new fwd line structure that doesn't involve hitting the stuffing pockets would be start..
Giving jack Reiwoldt free reign to do what he does best ie kick stuffing goals and forget this sharing around BS would be start....
and finally, go back to the free wheeling run and gun style we started with and forget this BS tempo footy we are clearly not suited to would be a start...
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giving guys like lennon and Arnot more than a game at a time would be a start...
giving McBean and Elton a decent run at it and banishing astbury and chaplin back to the reserves with a do not come back until you get fitter and sharper msg would be a start.
Putting Newman out to pasture effective immediately would be a start.
Telling Ty he's not a fwds ahole and that he has till seasons end to prove himself as a ruckman or he's gone would be a start.
Developing a new fwd line structure that doesn't involve hitting the stuffing pockets would be start..
Giving jack Reiwoldt free reign to do what he does best ie kick stuffing goals and forget this sharing around BS would be start....
and finally, go back to the free wheeling run and gun style we started with and forget this BS tempo footy we are clearly not suited to would be a start...
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Hopefully they will have an assistant coach or one of the freeloaders at 3121 pre match next Sunday as I will ask the question
" what is the Richmond way of playing "
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Give Mcbean a stuffen go , the kid could be anything , hardwick couldn't organize a pee up in. Brewery :banghead, fair dinkum I could have got that side up yesterday. We ve gone from a good thing for top 4 to a good thing for bottom 4 , and I'm bloody livid :banghead
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Give Mcbean a stuffen go , the kid could be anything , hardwick couldn't organize a pee up in. Brewery :banghead, fair dinkum I could have got that side up yesterday. We ve gone from a good thing for top 4 to a good thing for bottom 4 , and I'm bloody livid :banghead
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Give Mcbean a stuffen go , the kid could be anything , hardwick couldn't organize a pee up in. Brewery :banghead, fair dinkum I could have got that side up yesterday. We ve gone from a good thing for top 4 to a good thing for bottom 4 , and I'm bloody livid :banghead
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Give Mcbean a stuffen go , the kid could be anything , hardwick couldn't organize a pee up in. Brewery :banghead, fair dinkum I could have got that side up yesterday. We ve gone from a good thing for top 4 to a good thing for bottom 4 , and I'm bloody livid :banghead
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Give Mcbean a stuffen go , the kid could be anything , hardwick couldn't organize a pee up in. Brewery :banghead, fair dinkum I could have got that side up yesterday. We ve gone from a good thing for top 4 to a good thing for bottom 4 , and I'm bloody livid :banghead
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Give Mcbean a stuffen go , the kid could be anything , hardwick couldn't organize a pee up in. Brewery :banghead, fair dinkum I could have got that side up yesterday. We ve gone from a good thing for top 4 to a good thing for bottom 4 , and I'm bloody livid :banghead
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i dont know its a bit risky
maybe chaplin to the forward line
or hampson as a resting tall forward
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