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Title: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 07, 2015, 10:04:35 PM
A reality now.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 07, 2015, 10:06:33 PM
But we beat the Hawks.   :rollin
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: dwaino on August 07, 2015, 10:06:52 PM
Settle down girls, we only need two more wins.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: pmac21 on August 07, 2015, 10:14:04 PM
Pretty down after this.  Just when you think we've turned the corner they dish this crap up.  Seen it all before
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Stalin on August 07, 2015, 10:14:32 PM
Dimma is crap
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Diocletian on August 07, 2015, 10:35:12 PM
Don't have enough high quality players and still carrying far too many duds - just one star goes out and we go from outmuscling the red hot flag favourites to being outmuscled by a mediocre mid-table side within a week. Some serious and aggressive forward thinking during trade week is required.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 07, 2015, 10:38:04 PM
Don't have enough high quality players and still carrying far too many duds - just one star goes out and we go from outmuscling the red hot flag favourites to being outmuscled by a mediocre mid-table side within a week. Some serious and aggressive forward thinking during trade week is required.

Good and fair call
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Stalin on August 07, 2015, 10:43:51 PM
Don't have enough high quality players and still carrying far too many duds - just one star goes out and we go from outmuscling the red hot flag favourites to being outmuscled by a mediocre mid-table side within a week. Some serious and aggressive forward thinking during trade week is required.

Good and fair call

Who are the duds?

Why don't you name them as you agree with statement
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 07, 2015, 10:52:17 PM
Grigg
Lloyd
Conca
Hampson
Hunt

There's 5 who I don't rate at all
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 07, 2015, 11:33:55 PM
Big girls month has begun.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: WA Tiger on August 08, 2015, 07:53:05 AM
Don't have enough high quality players and still carrying far too many duds - just one star goes out and we go from outmuscling the red hot flag favourites to being outmuscled by a mediocre mid-table side within a week. Some serious and aggressive forward thinking during trade week is required.

That's why Morris, Batch, Grigg, Conco, Grimes and a few others need to be put on the table for trade.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: wayne on August 08, 2015, 08:11:10 AM
Roos win by plenty and we are 7th  :'(
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: No More on August 08, 2015, 10:34:30 AM
we will make the finals. our team is capable of beating anyone. yesterday was disappointing but we have been up for a while. lets move on towards victory next week.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Diocletian on August 08, 2015, 11:10:33 AM
Don't have enough high quality players and still carrying far too many duds - just one star goes out and we go from outmuscling the red hot flag favourites to being outmuscled by a mediocre mid-table side within a week. Some serious and aggressive forward thinking during trade week is required.

That's why Morris, Batch, Grigg, Conco, Grimes and a few others need to be put on the table for trade.

Grimes is one of our better players and still hasn't even hit his ceiling - missed him badly after he was subbed out with injury.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: WA Tiger on August 08, 2015, 11:16:03 AM
Don't have enough high quality players and still carrying far too many duds - just one star goes out and we go from outmuscling the red hot flag favourites to being outmuscled by a mediocre mid-table side within a week. Some serious and aggressive forward thinking during trade week is required.

That's why Morris, Batch, Grigg, Conco, Grimes and a few others need to be put on the table for trade.

Grimes is one of our better players and still hasn't even hit his ceiling - missed him badly after he was subbed out with injury.

Agree but we can't get a season out of him, he has value and must be considered.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: mat073 on August 08, 2015, 11:30:05 AM
A wake up call is not such a bad thing on the eve of the finals.

Every team has them.

No need to lose our heads.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Yeahright on August 08, 2015, 11:38:16 AM
This must be how Hawthorn felt after losing to us
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Diocletian on August 08, 2015, 11:41:08 AM
You mean minus the comfort of already having back to back flags and three flags since 2008 already under their belts?
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Yeahright on August 08, 2015, 11:53:00 AM
You mean minus the comfort of already having back to back flags and three flags since 2008 already under their belts?

If they are happy living in the past, sure
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Lozza on August 08, 2015, 12:12:00 PM
To be honest if we did head into finals like last year after having strung a number of wins together you just know a loss is around the corner, its just so hard to be up for every game. Obviously last night we were very down but with a handful of games to the finals its now a case of building momentum so that we are cherry ripe at the right time. It is a marathon not a sprint so time will tell whether we have the form at the business end of the season to make some impact.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: dwaino on August 08, 2015, 12:46:41 PM
To be honest if we did head into finals like last year after having strung a number of wins together you just know a loss is around the corner, its just so hard to be up for every game. Obviously last night we were very down but with a handful of games to the finals its now a case of building momentum so that we are cherry ripe at the right time. It is a marathon not a sprint so time will tell whether we have the form at the business end of the season to make some impact.

I would have taken the win any day but at least we can now take a look how the kind of opposition we will face first week of finals will play against us and now we have to go back through the vision and find a way to beat it. No loss is good but you're right that it is probably a good time to have one if any time there was. We have the second best form line over the past 27 weeks, we just need a couple more where it matters and I take back my criticisms of Hardwick. I believe he can take us to the promised land but the personal is just a bit lacking at the moment.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on August 08, 2015, 05:57:12 PM
Finals are in no way a lock. Adelaide winning last night means nothing short of 13 wins is required. Go to the AFL ladder predictor and see how it finishes. We'll need %, and to pick up a win against North or the Pies (assuming we beat GC and the Bummers).

Its that tight. Last night hurt in a lot of ways, massive reality check, but most importantly its hurt out finals campaign big time.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: pmac21 on August 08, 2015, 09:35:34 PM
If swans/hawks lose what could have been in terms of top 4. 
This weekend's results look like they are going to pan out the worst possible way!!
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 08, 2015, 09:46:15 PM
We are 2 pts away from ninth now . Finals are very much alive for all 9/10 teams



Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: one-eyed on August 08, 2015, 10:53:28 PM
Given the hit to our percentage and North with their soft draw playing Melbourne tomorrow, we'll end up dropping to 7th by the end of this round  :-\.

1. Fremantle  60*  127%
2. West Co.   54   150%
3. Hawthorn   52   162%
4. Bulldogs    48   117.1%
5. Sydney      48   112.4%
6. Richmond   44   108.9%
7. Geelong     42   104.6%
8. Adelaide     42   104.5%
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9. North        40*  107.2%
10. Coll'wood 36    111.9%
11. GWS       36*  100.3%

Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on August 09, 2015, 05:32:51 AM
The non game between  Geelong  and Adelaide  could really  come  and bite us.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 09, 2015, 06:36:09 AM
There's 4 games left. I think we can win 3 if not 4 of them but jeez wouldn't be suprised if we finish 8th and the doggies host us at Etihad  :-\ in week 1
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: sugark on August 09, 2015, 08:01:02 AM
If we make it, there is no way known that the AFL would fixture a Richmond final at Etihad. It's all about the cash
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 09, 2015, 02:40:50 PM
We have never been a premiership contender this year despite the media carrying like somehow we are.

To be a premiership contender you have to be guaranteed a place in this the finals.

And again despite the media talking us up we weren't in that position going into Friday night's game and it's now Sunday and we are still not in that position

Have always maitained get yourself into the finals first and then worry about where you finish

So my tip to the RFC is win 2 more games, lock up a finals birth and then see where you finish

And BTW if we make it there is no way the AFL will schedule us at Etihad. sugary is 100% correct, it's about money and we will guarantee big crowds
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: one-eyed on August 09, 2015, 03:56:59 PM
Officially now 7th.

1. Fremantle  60*  127%
2. West Co.   54   150%
3. Hawthorn   52   162%
4. Bulldogs    48   117.1%
5. Sydney      48   112.4%
6. North         44  109.0%
7. Richmond   44   108.9%
8. Geelong     42   104.6%
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9. Adelaide     42   104.5%
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: dwaino on August 09, 2015, 03:58:02 PM
Genuine contenders don't lose to Melbourne.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 09, 2015, 04:14:48 PM
We have never been a premiership contender this year despite the media carrying like somehow we are.

To be a premiership contender you have to be guaranteed a place in this the finals.

And again despite the media talking us up we weren't in that position going into Friday night's game and it's now Sunday and we are still not in that position

Have always maitained get yourself into the finals first and then worry about where you finish

So my tip to the RFC is win 2 more games, lock up a finals birth and then see where you finish

And BTW if we make it there is no way the AFL will schedule us at Etihad. sugary is 100% correct, it's about money and we will guarantee big crowds
Agree with all of this.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 09, 2015, 04:16:08 PM
Genuine contenders don't lose to Melbourne.
nor to Richmond :snidegrin
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 09, 2015, 04:44:22 PM
Lol
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2015, 12:35:19 PM
The Run Home after Round 19
afl.com.au
August 10, 2015


7. Richmond

44 points (11 wins, seven losses) 108.9 per cent

Bachar Houli's ill-conceived kick-out against Fremantle two weeks ago, which cost the Tigers the win, continues to haunt them. Instead of being out of fourth on percentage, they're a game and nine per cent behind and of more concern now is that they could still miss the finals altogether. With the Suns and Bombers still to come, they should win at least two more but Collingwood and North will be problematic unless the Tigers can hit the scoreboard a bit more.

The run home:
Rd 20: Gold Coast at the MCG
Rd 21:Collingwood at the MCG
Rd 22: Essendon at the MCG
Rd 23: North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium

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4. Western Bulldogs
Rd 20: Melbourne at Etihad Stadium
Rd 21: West Coast at Domain Stadium
Rd 22: North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium
Rd 23: Brisbane Lions at the Gabba

5. Sydney
Rd 20: Collingwood at the SCG
Rd 21: GWS at Spotless Stadium
Rd 22: St Kilda at Etihad Stadium
Rd 23: Gold Coast at the SCG

6. North Melbourne
Rd 20: St Kilda at Blundstone Arena
Rd 21: Fremantle at Etihad Stadium
Rd 22: Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium
Rd 23: Richmond at Etihad Stadium

8. Geelong
Rd 20: Hawthorn at the MCG
Rd 21: St Kilda at Etihad Stadium
Rd 22: Collingwood at the MCG
Rd 23: Adelaide at Simonds Stadium

9. Adelaide
Rd 20: Essendon at Etihad Stadium
Rd 21: Brisbane Lions at Adelaide Oval
Rd 22: West Coast at Adelaide Oval
Rd 23: Geelong at Simonds Stadium

10. Greater Western Sydney
Rd 20: Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval
Rd 21: Sydney Swans at Spotless Stadium
Rd 22: Carlton at Spotless Stadium
Rd 23: Melbourne at Etihad Stadium

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-09/the-run-home-adelaides-elimination-final-and-could-the-tigers-miss-out
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Knighter on August 10, 2015, 01:46:44 PM
Just did the Ladder predictor and we'll finish 9th unless we can beat all of Gold Coast, Collingwood and Essendon.  Assume we lose to North at Ethiad as don't think we've got within 5 goals of those knobs at that joint.

That draw between Adelaide and Geelong as a result of Phil Walsh passing could mean both teams finish 2 pts above us.  :-X

Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Diocletian on August 10, 2015, 01:52:19 PM
We're gone. Thanks Bachar....
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: mat073 on August 10, 2015, 03:06:11 PM
If we can't beat Gold Coast , Essengone or a team that has recently lost 6 on the trot - do we really deserve to be there.

At least our destiny is in our own hands.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 10, 2015, 05:12:30 PM
Reckon we will make it just .. and I mean just

Hence, why I didn't get too carried away when we beat Hawthorn

Yep it was a great win but it at no stage did it mean we were a lock for the top 8
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Diocletian on August 10, 2015, 05:40:11 PM
We're mediocre and will be until Hardwick and the incompetent list managers are all shown the door....
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 10, 2015, 05:49:27 PM
We're gone. Thanks Bachar....

cmon mate, your being racist  :shh
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Diocletian on August 10, 2015, 05:57:39 PM
Eddie told me to post that.....
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 10, 2015, 06:17:01 PM
 :lol

Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: No More on August 10, 2015, 06:25:19 PM
Just did the Ladder predictor and we'll finish 9th unless we can beat all of Gold Coast, Collingwood and Essendon.  Assume we lose to North at Ethiad as don't think we've got within 5 goals of those knobs at that joint.

That draw between Adelaide and Geelong as a result of Phil Walsh passing could mean both teams finish 2 pts above us.  :-X

we will win against Gold Coast, Collingwood and Essendon. I expect us to win against Norf. We will finish 5th IMHO but could finish 4th if we can punish Gold Coast, Collingwood and Essendon percentage wise. Its Tiger Time  ;D
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 10, 2015, 06:31:08 PM
Reckon we will make it just .. and I mean just

Hence, why I didn't get too carried away when we beat Hawthorn

Yep it was a great win but it at no stage did it mean we were a lock for the top 8

 :yep
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2015, 10:55:27 PM
Stats Insider uses Champion Data analysis and numbers to predict the run home for every AFL side
Max Laughton
FOX SPORTS
August 10, 2015 5:50PM



Richmond (7th, 11-7, 108.9%)

Finals: 79%

Top 4: 9%

Difficulty of remaining draw: 16th (average percentage of opponent — 97.13%)

ROUND 20: Gold Coast Suns at MCG, Sunday early

ROUND 21: Collingwood at MCG, Sunday early

ROUND 22: Essendon at MCG, Saturday night

ROUND 23: North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium, Friday night

BRETT Deledio can’t mean that much, can he? The Tigers looked terrible on Friday night against Adelaide and undid all of their good work in beating Hawthorn, in terms of the top four race. They’re in fact now seemingly a chance to drop out of the top eight! But calm down, Tiger fans. Richmond still has a four in five shot of playing in September based on our numbers, and if they win the games they really should, they will be fine. In fact from our projections, Round 23 will just be a warm-up for an Elimination final replay, unless a nine point percentage gap between them and the Bulldogs can be recovered.

FOX FOOTY’S PROJECTION — four wins, finishing 15-7 (sixth on percentage)

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FOX FOOTY'S FINAL LADDER PROJECTION

1. Fremantle     19-3     76
2. West Coast  17-4-1  70
3. Hawthorn     17-5     68
4. Sydney        16-6     64
5. W.Bulldogs  15-7     60
6. Richmond    15-7     60
7. GWS           13-9     52
8. Adelaide       12-9-1  50
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9. Geelong       12-9-1  50
10. North Melb  12-10   48
11. Coll'wood    11-11   44
12. Port Adel.   10-12   40
13. Melbourne    7-15   28
14. St Kilda        6-16   24
15. Essendon     5-17   20
16. Gold Coast  4-17-1 18
17. Carlton        4-18   16
18. Brisbane      2-20    8

FINALS - FIRST WEEK PROJECTION

QF1: Fremantle vs Sydney       @ Domain Stadium
QF2: West Coast vs Hawthorn @ Domain Stadium
EF1: W.Bulldogs vs Adelaide    @ Etihad Stadium
EF2: Richmond vs GWS Giants @ the M.C.G.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/stats-insider-uses-champion-data-analysis-and-numbers-to-predict-the-run-home-for-every-afl-side/story-fnp04d70-1227477729140
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Yeahright on August 10, 2015, 11:30:35 PM

EF2: Richmond vs GWS Giants @ the M.C.G.



Surely we're due for some luck :pray
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 11, 2015, 06:21:32 AM
Sorry but the ladder is laughable   :rollin anyhow we shall see  :whistle
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: eliminator on August 11, 2015, 07:06:50 AM
Lets just concentrate on winning against the Suns. If we are to have any chance of reaching the finals we must thrash the suns.
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 11, 2015, 11:09:36 AM
If the Suns beat us its goodnight
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: Knighter on August 11, 2015, 11:15:40 AM
Footy Gods are watching, its one week at a time. 

Personally I think it will come down to Rd23 verus the Kangas.  If we win that game we'll be in if we lose we'll finish 9th!!!
Title: Re: From premiership contenders to not playing finals
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2015, 01:36:01 PM
The Herald-Sun has us finishing 7th.

AFL 2015: we look at the teams fighting for top two, top four and top eight finishes

Herald-Sun
August 11, 2015


THE battle is heating up as the final home and away round approaches and finals are on the horizon, with places in the top two, top four and top eight all up for grabs.

We take a look at who does your team plays in the final four rounds of the AFL season and predict where your team might finish.

Will Hawthorn secure that all-important double chance? Will Geelong sneak into the finals? Or can GWS go on a winning spree and qualify for their first ever finals series?

Plus, will it be Carlton or Brisbane for the dreaded wooden spoon?


RICHMOND

Ladder position: 7 (44, 108.9%)

Rd20 Gold Coast (MCG) W

Rd21 Collingwood (MCG) W

Rd22 Essendon (MCG) W

Rd23 North Melbourne (ES) L

WE SAY: From contender to pretender? A favourable draw may tell us little until September which they surely make, but loss against Crows ended top-four hopes.

SUPERCOACH: Since Round 16, Deledio ranks as an elite midfielder, averaging 124 SuperCoach points per game. He has averaged almost three goals per game — ranked No. 1 of any midfielder — and has recorded a kick rating of +12.4% — ranked third of any midfielder to average at least 20 disposals per game.

PREDICTED FINISH: 7 (56pts)



PREDICTED FINAL LADDER

1. Fremantle     19-3     76
2. Hawthorn     17-5     68
3. West Coast  16-5-1  66
4. Sydney        16-6     64
5. W.Bulldogs  15-7     60
6. North Melb   14-8     56
7. Richmond    14-8     56
8. Geelong      13-8-1  54
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9. GWS           13-9     52
10. Adelaide     12-9-1  50
11. Coll'wood    10-12   40
12. Port Adel.   10-12   40
13. Melbourne    7-15   28
14. St Kilda        6-16   24
15. Essendon     5-17   20
16. Gold Coast  4-17-1 18
17. Carlton        4-18   16
18. Brisbane      2-20    8



POTENTIAL FINALS WEEK ONE

Fremantle v Sydney (Perth)

Hawthorn v West Coast (MCG)

Western Bulldogs v Geelong (Etihad)

North Melbourne v Richmond (MCG)

http://www.news.com.au/national/afl-2015-we-look-at-the-teams-fighting-for-top-two-top-four-and-top-eight-finishes/story-e6frfkp9-1227477871309