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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 27, 2015, 12:00:35 PM
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Pseudo-curtainraiser.
VFL Round 20
ESSENDON (11-6, 5th) vs RICHMOND (5-12, 13th)
Saturday, 29th August @ Windy Hill
Time: 1:00 pm
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Must win game!
Must finish off the year strongly.
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It's a "Thank gawd this nightmare season is over" game
My hope in 2016 is that the club at least tries to put more effort into making our VFL stronger. That's the main reason we've been so non competitive for most of the season, our VFL listed players are ordinary at best
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Richmond's VFL squad
B: Castagna Elton Barlow
HB: Morris Wall Dea
C: Mellington McQualter Gordon
HF: McDonough Astbury Menadue
F: McBean McKenzie Butler
R: Hampson Knights Arnot
Int: Contin, Gale, Aarts, Kruse, McGough, L.Conca, Darke*, Scott, Soldo
http://www.stuff=DETAIL&articleID=35782712
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It's a "Thank game this nightmare season is over" game
My hope in 2016 is that the club at least tries to put more effort into making our VFL stronger. That's the main reason we've been so non competitive for most of the season, our VFL listed players are ordinary at best
Agree with this. I has watched many games this year and some of the VFL players are extremely poor. Mellington is the standout player and only 19 years old. Gale and Kruse can play and Scott shows plenty. It would be great if Knights plays for the VFL next year along with recently cut AFL players, not country spuds.
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8 point game.
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If clarkey can't get the points with that side in, chocka block laden with talent, he s not fair dinkum. :shh
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It's a "Thank game this nightmare season is over" game
My hope in 2016 is that the club at least tries to put more effort into making our VFL stronger. That's the main reason we've been so non competitive for most of the season, our VFL listed players are ordinary at best
Agree with this. I has watched many games this year and some of the VFL players are extremely poor. Mellington is the standout player and only 19 years old. Gale and Kruse can play and Scott shows plenty. It would be great if Knights plays for the VFL next year along with recently cut AFL players, not country spuds.
Is Mellington only 19? I assumed we picked up that one that used to play for Freo (or maybe he still does?), which would mean he would of been older than that. Not to bad then
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I think Mellington was Murray bushies captain last season.
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I think Mellington was Murray bushies captain last season.
This is the one.
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I think Mellington was Murray bushies captain last season.
This is the one.
Cheers :thumbsup
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The battle for bragging rights
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The race for the Jim "Frosty" Miller Medal for the league's leading goalkicker will come down to the final round with Hawthorn-listed Sam Grimley looking to secure back-to-back medals with Box Hill. On 41 goals, Grimley will have the last say on Sunday against Williamstown.
Port Melbourne's Jordan Lisle is also on 41, while Richmond's Liam McBean is on 40.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/daniel-wells-set-to-play-in-gerard-fitzgeralds-north-ballarat-farewell-20150828-gj9rhq.html
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The race for the Jim "Frosty" Miller Medal for the league's leading goalkicker will come down to the final round with Hawthorn-listed Sam Grimley looking to secure back-to-back medals with Box Hill. On 41 goals, Grimley will have the last say on Sunday against Williamstown.
Port Melbourne's Jordan Lisle is also on 41, while Richmond's Liam McBean is on 40.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/daniel-wells-set-to-play-in-gerard-fitzgeralds-north-ballarat-farewell-20150828-gj9rhq.html
Does there come a time when you say 'who gives a stuff how this bloke kicks goals. He's done it consistantly over three years lets see if he can transfer it to the AFL'? Hope he gets a crack next week after Reiwoldt gets a "niggling hip injury"
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Question
Might go tomorrow
Walk to ground
Does your RFC membership get you in ?
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Question
Might go tomorrow
Walk to ground
Does your RFC membership get you in ?
As the away team member you get in cheaper but not for free
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Is Mellington only 19? I assumed we picked up that one that used to play for Freo (or maybe he still does?), which would mean he would of been older than that. Not to bad then
This is NICK Mellington, younger brother of JOSH Mellington.
Both playing with Benalla Saints Footy club in 2014/15.
Nick when not playing with Bushies and Richmond as 23rd man last year.
Josh was delisted by Freo in 2013 and played last half of last year with Benalla.
This year Josh has played all year and leads GVFL goalkicking with 79 at 4.94 average.
Benalla second on GVFL ladder ATM.
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Is it on TV people's or live stream?
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Is Mellington only 19? I assumed we picked up that one that used to play for Freo (or maybe he still does?), which would mean he would of been older than that. Not to bad then
This is NICK Mellington, younger brother of JOSH Mellington.
Both playing with Benalla Saints Footy club in 2014/15.
Nick when not playing with Bushies and Richmond as 23rd man last year.
Josh was delisted by Freo in 2013 and played last half of last year with Benalla.
This year Josh has played all year and leads GVFL goalkicking with 79 at 4.94 average.
Benalla second on GVFL ladder ATM.
Yep, Nick goes ok I reckon, a little slow would be my knock on him
His dad drives down from Benalla to most games & I have got to know him a bit, nice fella , he hates Barlow & McQualter a lot !!!
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Is Mellington only 19? I assumed we picked up that one that used to play for Freo (or maybe he still does?), which would mean he would of been older than that. Not to bad then
This is NICK Mellington, younger brother of JOSH Mellington.
Both playing with Benalla Saints Footy club in 2014/15.
Nick when not playing with Bushies and Richmond as 23rd man last year.
Josh was delisted by Freo in 2013 and played last half of last year with Benalla.
This year Josh has played all year and leads GVFL goalkicking with 79 at 4.94 average.
Benalla second on GVFL ladder ATM.
Yep, Nick goes ok I reckon, a little slow would be my knock on him
His dad drives down from Benalla to most games & I have got to know him a bit, nice fella , he hates Barlow & McQualter a lot !!!
Why?
P.S thanks Redan
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Is Mellington only 19? I assumed we picked up that one that used to play for Freo (or maybe he still does?), which would mean he would of been older than that. Not to bad then
This is NICK Mellington, younger brother of JOSH Mellington.
Both playing with Benalla Saints Footy club in 2014/15.
Nick when not playing with Bushies and Richmond as 23rd man last year.
Josh was delisted by Freo in 2013 and played last half of last year with Benalla.
This year Josh has played all year and leads GVFL goalkicking with 79 at 4.94 average.
Benalla second on GVFL ladder ATM.
Yep, Nick goes ok I reckon, a little slow would be my knock on him
His dad drives down from Benalla to most games & I have got to know him a bit, nice fella , he hates Barlow & McQualter a lot !!!
Why?
P.S thanks Redan
hE BELEIVES mCQUALTER IS TAKING A KIDS SPOT IN THE MIDDLE & ON BALL, I AGREE TO A certain extent, also
McQualter decided not to play in the VFL last week so he could play with his suburban club & therefore qualify for finals, seemed selfish, his words not mine
sorry about caps.
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Is Mellington only 19? I assumed we picked up that one that used to play for Freo (or maybe he still does?), which would mean he would of been older than that. Not to bad then
This is NICK Mellington, younger brother of JOSH Mellington.
Both playing with Benalla Saints Footy club in 2014/15.
Nick when not playing with Bushies and Richmond as 23rd man last year.
Josh was delisted by Freo in 2013 and played last half of last year with Benalla.
This year Josh has played all year and leads GVFL goalkicking with 79 at 4.94 average.
Benalla second on GVFL ladder ATM.
Yep, Nick goes ok I reckon, a little slow would be my knock on him
His dad drives down from Benalla to most games & I have got to know him a bit, nice fella , he hates Barlow & McQualter a lot !!!
Why?
P.S thanks Redan
hE BELEIVES mCQUALTER IS TAKING A KIDS SPOT IN THE MIDDLE & ON BALL, I AGREE TO A certain extent, also
McQualter decided not to play in the VFL last week so he could play with his suburban club & therefore qualify for finals, seemed selfish, his words not mine
sorry about caps.
Can confirm McQualter is a fantastic guy and plays an on field coaching role match day. Highly regarded. Mellington shows plenty of promise and looks to be a hard inside mid. Hope we look at picking him up in either draft.
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Mellington can play
Going ok 1st Q
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5 scoring shots to 2 but we're trailing at Quarter time:
Richmond 0.5-5
Essendon 1.1-7
Matt McDonough very lively around the contest with 10 disp and 3 clearances.
Gordon had 9 touches.
Dea had 8.
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL/with_replies
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1st Q played 70% in our inside 50
Unable to score
2.2 to 0.5 5 mins in 2nd Q
Freezing cold and wet
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10 mins 2nd Q
2.3
0.7
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Goal to Mellington
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2 quick goal to the bummers
4.3
1.7
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Half time
5.3
1.8
Terrible conditions
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To half time, Matt Dea has 18 touches and 5 marks. McDonough has 16 touches, Arnot 15, McQualter 14, Astbury and Knights both have 13.
Richmond really struggling to convert their efforts around the ball into goals.
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL/with_replies
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Ivan Soldo goals for the Tigers' 2nd of the day.
Rich 2.8-20
Ess 7.4-46
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Two quick goals to the Bombers.
20 - 58
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At three quarter time the scores were @EssendonVFL 10.7.67 leading @RichmondVFL 4.8.32
We then kicked the first 5 goals in a row of the last quarter [McDonough 2, McBean, Knights & L.Conca] to reduce the margin to just one goal [ Rich 9.8-62 to Ess 10.8-68 ]
Essendon, however, have kicked the last goal. So it's 62 - 74 at the 20 minute mark of the last.
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Point to us.
11 points down at the 25 min mark.
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At the 26 min mark
Essendon goal from long range and make it difficult for the Tiges.
ESS 80 RICH 63
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A lesson in you can't play one quarter of decent footy and expect to win playing catch-up footy.
Final Score
Richmond 0.5 1.8 4.8 9.9-63
Essendon 1.1 5.3 10.7 12.8-80
Goals: McBean 2, McDonough 2, Knights, Soldo, L.Conca, Mellington, Scott.
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Matt Dea finished with 31 touches and 9 marks,
Arnot had 30 touches,
Castagana 29,
Knights 29,
McDonough 27 disposals and two goals.
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL/with_replies
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On what I saw today
We have some decent back up players if any of the seniors get injured
Astbury , Hampson , Dea , McBean and even Castagans
He can play abit "Georgie "
Lighting quick
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Stawell gift runner was George, put some finishing touches on him and whoa , we have a player :shh
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Is Mellington only 19? I assumed we picked up that one that used to play for Freo (or maybe he still does?), which would mean he would of been older than that. Not to bad then
This is NICK Mellington, younger brother of JOSH Mellington.
Both playing with Benalla Saints Footy club in 2014/15.
Nick when not playing with Bushies and Richmond as 23rd man last year.
Josh was delisted by Freo in 2013 and played last half of last year with Benalla.
This year Josh has played all year and leads GVFL goalkicking with 79 at 4.94 average.
Benalla second on GVFL ladder ATM.
Yep, Nick goes ok I reckon, a little slow would be my knock on him
His dad drives down from Benalla to most games & I have got to know him a bit, nice fella , he hates Barlow & McQualter a lot !!!
Why?
P.S thanks Redan
hE BELEIVES mCQUALTER IS TAKING A KIDS SPOT IN THE MIDDLE & ON BALL, I AGREE TO A certain extent, also
McQualter decided not to play in the VFL last week so he could play with his suburban club & therefore qualify for finals, seemed selfish, his words not mine
sorry about caps.
Can confirm McQualter is a fantastic guy and plays an on field coaching role match day. Highly regarded. Mellington shows plenty of promise and looks to be a hard inside mid. Hope we look at picking him up in either draft.
Probably is a great bloke & I know what role he plays most match days as I go to nearly every VFL game, but He didn't last week as he played @ his suburban club as I said & at least one of our VFL players reckons that's selfish
FYI , Nick was also very good again today, just have a knock on his pace
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Stawell gift runner was George, put some finishing touches on him and whoa , we have a player :shh
Will be a star
Can play
Don't be surprised if we have injuries in next few weeks that he gets a game as a sub
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have they taught him how to properly kick the footy?
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2015 Peter Jackson VFL
Essendon 1.1 5.3 10.7 12.8 (80)
Richmond Tigers 0.5 1.8 4.8 9.9 (63)
GOALS:
Essendon: Hardingham 3 Thompson 2 Browne Polkinghorne Long Langford Willis Kavanagh Muller
Richmond Tigers: McBean 2 McDONOUGH 2 Conca Scott Soldo Knights Mellington
BEST:
Essendon: Langford Steinberg Ashby Polkinghorne Hardingham Byrne
Richmond Tigers: Dea Astbury Knights McDONOUGH McQualter McKenzie
https://reg.sportingpulse.com/olr_v5/rpt_progressive.cgi?aID=4138&pg=1&a=MR
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have they taught him how to properly kick the footy?
Have you actually seen him play ?, I have & I cant recall a bad kick since he came back from injury
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have they taught him how to properly kick the footy?
Have you actually seen him play ?, I have & I cant recall a bad kick since he came back from injury
I have seen him play on several occasions. Maybe he has improved as the last time I saw him play was a while ago.
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VFL Tigers gallant in final hitout
richmondfc.com.au
August 30, 2015
Richmond’s VFL squad has failed to secure a win in its last game of the 2015 season, despite a final quarter surge which brought it within a goal in the dying stages.
The Tigers kicked just one goal in the first half of its final round clash against Essendon at Windy Hill, before a five goal to two final term brought them within striking distance.
VFL coach Tim Clarke said he was pleased with his players’ endeavour, despite their inability to close out the game.
“They played some really good football early in the game, but Essendon’s structure behind the ball was really strong so they were able to stop a lot of our forward entries,” he said.
“But for the boys to fight back with the attitude and effort they had in that last quarter was fantastic. It showed them what they can do when they put their mind to it.”
Richmond’s intensity around the contest was notable in the early stages of the game, a trend which continued throughout.
Despite Essendon kicking the first goal, Richmond controlled possession from then on, entering their forward 50 a handful of times.
But the Tigers wasted their opportunities, and struggled to find an avenue to goal.
Essendon’s intensity lifted in the second quarter and, as in the first, they didn’t take long to score. They went on to kick another three goals in a term when the Tigers managed just one.
Although Richmond again managed to match Essendon around the ball in the third, skill errors and poor forward transition made scoring difficult, while Essendon managed to kick another four goals for the quarter.
But the tide began to turn approaching three quarter time, with two quick goals from Anthony Scott and Liam McBean.
The momentum continued in Richmond’s favour in the final quarter, with seven unanswered Tiger goals bringing the visitors to within a kick. But Essendon pushed back, scoring two quick goals to put the result beyond doubt.
Clarke said while the game marked the end of the VFL program for 2015, the game demonstrated that there are several players whose seasons are still well and truly alive.
“The season is over and it’s been a fun year for the VFL program, even though we haven’t had the wins that we’ve wanted,” he said.
“However, there are five or six guys here that are a chance to play next week if the position opens up. So it’s really important they recover well and they continue moving forward.
“Our footy club hopefully will play for a number of weeks yet and those boys need to make sure they are ready when they’re needed.”
Of the players pushing for senior selection, Matt Dea and David Astbury were standouts. Dea collected 31 touches and took nine marks, cutting off a lot of Essendon’s forward transitions, while Astbury’s 23 touches and 10 marks demonstrated his ability to impact critical contests around the ground.
Midfielders Matt McDonough (27 disposals), Matt Arnot (30 disposals), and Chris Knights (29 disposals) all played pivotal roles throughout, particularly in their side’s rebirth in the final quarter, clearing the ball at stoppages and linking up to provide much-needed forward movement.
The results sees the Tigers finish the year in thirteenth position on the VFL ladder, with five wins and 12 losses.
FINAL SCORES
Essendon 1.1 5.3 10.7 12.8.80
Richmond 0.5 1.8 4.8 9.9.63
BEST - Dea, Arnot, Castagna, Knights, McDonough, McQualter, Astbury
GOALS - McDonough 2, McBean 2, Knights 1, Mellington 1, Scott 1, L. Conca 1, Soldo 1
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-08-29/vfl-tigers-gallant-in-final-hitout
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have they taught him how to properly kick the footy?
Have you actually seen him play ?, I have & I cant recall a bad kick since he came back from injury
He has improved and kicks the ball well. The thing he is slowly improving is his decision making. Rance was the same as a young player.
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Well done to McBean one winning (3-way tie) the Frosty Miller medal for the VFL's leading goalkicker :clapping.
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Grimlock's VFL stats from BF:
(http://i.imgur.com/bFIgvtr.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/zTfPWr2.png)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/vfl-essendon-v-richmond-sat-29th-1pm.1109447/page-3#AD9tf5xTMahtpD5O.97
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VFL highlights vs Essendon ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-08-31/vfl-round-20-highlights
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Richmond’s VFL coach Tim Clarke's summary:
Matt Dea
31 disposals, nine marks, two tackles
Had another extremely strong game in defence, winning plenty of ball and keeping his opponent in check. Is playing really solid AFL-standard football and pushing hard for senior selection.
Matt Arnot
30 disposals, three tackles, 11 marks
Backed up a solid game last week with an impressive effort in defence and through the midfield area. Won plenty of uncontested possession, but he combined that with a bit of contested ball late in the game, which got us back into the contest. It was a good finish to the season from him.
Jason Castagna
29 disposals, two clearances, two tackles
Maintained his good, attacking style of football off half-back. Was really impressive with his run-and-carry. Needs to continue working on his kicking and hitting targets, but he’s certainly shown this season that he’s going to become an exciting player for the Club.
Chris Knights
29 disposals, six tackles, one goal
Finished off his last VFL game for the club with a standout performance. Had plenty of centre-forward touches. Hit the scoreboard once and had a few other shots that fell short, but ended up in scoring shots for teammates. His intensity around the ball was a highlight.
Matt McDonough
27 disposals, seven clearances, two goals
Had probably his best game for the past month. Displayed heaps of energy in and around the contest. He combined that with some outside football that was damaging, especially in the centre-forward area, where he helped set up several scoring shots.
Dave Astbury
23 disposals, 10 marks
Produced arguably his best performance of the season. Took plenty of contested marks and really helped to set us up offensively. Is another player who is really pushing for senior selection in our backline. He’s just waiting to grab an opportunity.
Nathan Gordon
19 disposals, five marks, seven tackles
Played a solid game as a half-forward. It was a tough position to play at times throughout the match, but he worked pretty hard. Ended up having a few scoring shots, but didn’t register a goal. He’s also ready to go, if required, to step up into the senior side.
Todd Elton
16 disposals, eight marks, three tackles
Another player who had his best game for the season. Was involved with plenty of critical contest work, restricted his opponent’s influence, and helped set up a few really aggressive offensive transitions for us. It was a particularly pleasing performance from him.
Connor Menadue
16 disposals, six marks, two tackles
Played a combination of midfield and half-back. Produced plenty of run-and-carry and had some really exciting involvements. The challenge for him is to continue winning more possessions, so he can maximise his ability to use the ball.
Reece McKenzie
14 disposals, five contested marks
Well beaten in the first quarter, but bounced back after quarter-time to finish with 10 marks, including five contested grabs. Really stood up and was probably the most dominant forward on the ground. Didn’t hit the scoreboard, but his work in and around the contest was fantastic.
Shaun Hampson
10 disposals, 39 hit-outs, five marks
His ruckwork was elite, giving our midfielders first use right throughout the game. He also got to more contests, and finished with five marks, which could easily have been more. Another player that, if needed at senior level, is ready to go.
Liam McBean
10 disposals, two goals
Was a bit down on previous weeks. But he also got to more contests, which is something he’s been working on, and still managed to kick two goals, which is pleasing. He needs to keep focusing on those critical contests in his bid for senior selection.
Ivan Soldo
3 disposals, 16 hit-outs, one goal
Battled well in the ruck. Continues to improve. His centre-bounce work was impressive against good opposition, and he even managed to push forward and kick a goal. We’re really excited about the development he’s shown throughout the season.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-09-01/the-vfl-report-round-20
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have they taught him how to properly kick the footy?
Have you actually seen him play ?, I have & I cant recall a bad kick since he came back from injury
Read the coaches comments Taz ... looks like kicking is still an issue ;D
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George is an exciting prospect. Could be a wild card as a sub in September...... :whistle
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have they taught him how to properly kick the footy?
Have you actually seen him play ?, I have & I cant recall a bad kick since he came back from injury
Read the coaches comments Taz ... looks like kicking is still an issue ;D
What would Tim Clarke know :snidegrin
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Tim doesn't have a lot to work with IMHO. We really do need to get some better top up players for our VFL side.
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Tim doesn't have a lot to work with IMHO. We really do need to get some better top up players for our VFL side.
That's the issue, losing Tyrone Downie didn't help after Ross Young pulled the pin late & that affected our chances of picking up a quality mid
Keepers are ,
Wall
Mellington
Cachia
Aarts
Wynne
Scott
Kruse
Gale
& probably McQualter & Barlow for experience , the rest are not up to it IMHO
Injuries didn't help, add R Conca , Petterd , Foley etc etc and we would be a lot stronger
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2015 ‘Frosty’ Miller Medal leaderboard
1. Liam McBean (Richmond) 42
1. Jordan Lisle (Port Melbourne) 42
1. Sam Grimley (Box Hill Hawks) 42
4. Samuel Dunell (Williamstown) 38
5. Andrew Hooper (North Ballarat) 36
6. Kyle Hardingham (Essendon) 32
7. Majak Daw (Werribee Tigers) 30
8. Ahmed Saad (Sandringham) 29
9. Anthony Anastasio (Williamstown) 27
9. Blaine Johnson (Northern Blues) 27
Richmond VFL leading goalkickers
1. Liam McBean (16 games) 42
2. Matt McDonough (14 games) 15
3. Sam Lloyd (8 games) 14
4. Ben Lennon (10 games) 10
4. Reece McKenzie (15 games) 10
4. Ty Vickery (3 games) 10
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-09-01/mcbean-ties-for-frosty-miller-medal
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George is an exciting prospect. Could be a wild card as a sub in September...... :whistle
Nah apparently if you can't kick you're never going to be a good player
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to put it it into a more apt form, you cant be regarded as a good player if you cant kick
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Said this before but it is FOOTball we are discussing here, how does a player advance through the junior ranks, then to rep teams and ultimately drafted into the AFL if they can't kick properly. You would think by that stage their kicking skills should be elite across the board. Interesting comment by Roos recently on AFL360 where he stated that around the world in elite sporting competitions the AFL is one of the only competitions where at the top level you have to have development of the players within the clubs. Really need to look at why these players have deficiencies when making the top levels, obviously as Roos pointed out there is a huge gulf in standard between the feeder comps and AFL, this needs to be looked at to ensure that half a players window of performance isn't wasted just being developed to AFL standard.
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to put it it into a more apt form, you cant be regarded as a good player if you cant kick
Nope that's not what I was told
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Said this before but it is FOOTball we are discussing here, how does a player advance through the junior ranks, then to rep teams and ultimately drafted into the AFL if they can't kick properly. You would think by that stage their kicking skills should be elite across the board. Interesting comment by Roos recently on AFL360 where he stated that around the world in elite sporting competitions the AFL is one of the only competitions where at the top level you have to have development of the players within the clubs. Really need to look at why these players have deficiencies when making the top levels, obviously as Roos pointed out there is a huge gulf in standard between the feeder comps and AFL, this needs to be looked at to ensure that half a players window of performance isn't wasted just being developed to AFL standard.
Reduce the competition back to 12 teams, problem solved. :thumbsup
...... And while we're at it, every team plays on saturday arvos only, each team play each other twice in the home & away season and we go back to a final 5. :cheers
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to put it it into a more apt form, you cant be regarded as a good player if you cant kick
Nope that's not what I was told
You were told right.
How many players with terrible kicks are considered above average AFL players?
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PS, way to bring up an old tiff like a petulant little sook. :thumbsup
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to put it it into a more apt form, you cant be regarded as a good player if you cant kick
Nope that's not what I was told
You were told right.
How many players with terrible kicks are considered above average AFL players?
Rance was but should be back to back AA this year. Jobe Watson, now he's a brownlow medalist*. Same goes for Priddis although he's probably a poorer example. Need I go on?
PS, way to bring up an old tiff like a petulant little sook. :thumbsup
What are you talking about?
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to put it it into a more apt form, you cant be regarded as a good player if you cant kick
Nope that's not what I was told
You were told right.
How many players with terrible kicks are considered above average AFL players?
Rance was but should be back to back AA this year. Jobe Watson, now he's a brownlow medalist*. Same goes for Priddis although he's probably a poorer example. Need I go on?
PS, way to bring up an old tiff like a petulant little sook. :thumbsup
What are you talking about?
none of those players ARE terrible kick. If they once were then it was before they became good players. And there are very few success stories with poor kicking. Rances issue was more related to decision making.
Basically if you're a crap kick you're not a good player. It's a fundamental skill.
I'm referring to your "that's not what I was told" comments which struck me as a bitchy little dig at those who don't share your appreciation for players who can't hit a stuffing 10 meter stationary target. .
Have I misunderstood you?
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to put it it into a more apt form, you cant be regarded as a good player if you cant kick
Nope that's not what I was told
You were told right.
How many players with terrible kicks are considered above average AFL players?
Rance was but should be back to back AA this year. Jobe Watson, now he's a brownlow medalist*. Same goes for Priddis although he's probably a poorer example. Need I go on?
PS, way to bring up an old tiff like a petulant little sook. :thumbsup
What are you talking about?
none of those players ARE terrible kick. If they once were then it was before they became good players. And there are very few success stories with poor kicking. Rances issue was more related to decision making.
Basically if you're a crap kick you're not a good player. It's a fundamental skill.
I'm referring to your "that's not what I was told" comments which struck me as a bitchy little dig at those who don't share your appreciation for players who can't hit a stuffing 10 meter stationary target. .
Have I misunderstood you?
I'd argue Jobe is a poor kick but I guess you could argue that all day. At the end of the day though, can you improve it? People seem to people you can't
No, not everything is a bitchy dig at you. Are you not old enough to understand that? Judging by your response I assume you aren't any older than 12
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I'm 13.5 and I've been to second base. :banghead
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I'm 13.5 and I've been to second base. :banghead
I'm older but I have to admire you getting further than I ever have :bow
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I'm 13.5 and I've been to second base. :banghead
I'm older but I have to admire you getting further than I ever have :bow
;D
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I'm 13.5 and I've been to second base. :banghead
:lol
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I'm 13.5 and I've been to second base. :banghead
I'm older but I have to admire you getting further than I ever have :bow
:lol