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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 05, 2015, 08:03:43 PM
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Does Alex Rance tunnel his opponents?
Herald-Sun
September 5, 2015
THE tactics of Alex Rance and Richmond defenders against North Melbourne’s key forwards have been put on the finals agenda by Kangaroos goalkicker Drew Petrie.
Petrie said Rance was an expert at using his body to force opponents under the footy without giving away a free kick.
Champion forward Dermott Brereton said the technique bordered on tunnelling — a reportable offence for taking out an opponent’s lower body as they jump for the ball.
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“It definitely is an employed technique by the Richmond backmen, it’s not reportable because they don’t go overboard with it but they have a spoiling technique against the tall forwards ... they almost tunnel you when you are stretching for the ball on the lead at the highest point, their body comes through the drop line and forces your hips forward and it takes your legs from underneath you,” Brereton said on SEN.
Petrie replied: “Yes — you explained it really well Derm, you’re spot-on.
“It’s a frustrating thing as a forward when you know you’re sitting under it and you’ve got a defender breathing down you’re neck and they’re just edging you under it.
“It’s really hard to stop once they’ve initiated that contact and they’ve run you under the footy.”
Petrie said the tactic wasn’t illegal.
“One of our blokes got paid a free kick ... I heard the umpire blow the whistle and call out tunnelling.
Alex Rance flies with Ben Brown. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
“I guess it can be slightly dangerous if a player loses his feet and lands flat on his back, but I think it’s good defending and I think our defenders employ similar tactics to try and run their opponents off the line of the footy or underneath the footy.
“Providing it’s done properly it’s a fine tactic for all defenders to use but if it becomes a dangerous movement a free kick’s got to be paid.”
The Tigers and Kangaroos are almost certain to meet again next week in an elimination final and Petrie said he had taken valuable lessons from last night’s game on how Richmond — and Rance — play.
“Going into the game we spoke about (Bachar) Houli coming off half-back and setting them up and (Dustin) Martin ... and Rance is probably someone we overlooked. He made me look silly a couple of times.
“Throughout the game you’re taking mental notes. I know he beat me and I know how he beat me ... and when we go on the training track this week I’ll train those things and make sure my defensive game is ready to go.”
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-defenders-accused-of-forcing-opponents-under-the-ball/story-fnia6oop-1227513990885
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If Petrie mis-times his marking attempt that's no one elses fault only his own. That is all.
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Morons
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The issue we have now is that it's in the media, the umpires will be watching for it and you can guarantee Petrie will play for it next week. Very astute to sow the seed just before the finals. We need to counter with something just to keep the umpires honest.
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I'll play the devils advocate here and say that Petrie is hardly having a whinge. Derm is.
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Actually during the game the commentators made mention of it but referred to Rance just being clever with the way he positions himself and does so without giving away a free kick. Just have a sneaking suspicion that at a key part of the game next week an umpire will pay one against Rance based solely upon what's been said in the media. The thing that annoys me is that Rance has pretty much been doing this for 23 weeks so if it wasn't a free before then surely they can't stsrt paying it in a final, or can they?
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Geez I hate this pathetic mob. Plan on giving it to their 22 players and 12 supporters next week at the G
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They actually went there? Can I hate them any more? Ummm wow yes....
What a whiny little bit bitch
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I'll play the devils advocate here and say that Petrie is hardly having a whinge. Derm is.
100% agree. Derm brought it up and Petrie said yeah but it isn't illegal and their backmen do similar things.
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North have become the biggest sooky sooky la la whingers of the AFL ::).
Wah wah waaaaaaaaaah ....... we don't get Friday nights (but when we get one we play our B-side)
Wah wah waaaaaaaaaah ....... someone left the roof open at Etihad.
Wah wah waaaaaaaaaah ....... dropping 9 players isn't tanking.
Wah wah waaaaaaaaaah ....... big bad Rancey pushes us under the ball.
:nopity.
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Awww ... big bad Alex Rance beat me pointless! I can't handle his huge frame in a marking contest & his judgement is just too good for me, so I'd better start finding some excuses before he skins me alive in a final! :'( :help Help me Dermy, help me!
Boo hoo Drew ... :thumbsdown
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Hmmm lots of angst emanating from Arden st.Scott wants an apology ,now rance tunnels etc....wonder who is pooing their pants
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The issue we have now is that it's in the media, the umpires will be watching for it and you can guarantee Petrie will play for it next week. Very astute to sow the seed just before the finals. We need to counter with something just to keep the umpires honest.
You can't chop the arms, you can't put a hand on a forwards back. What else do you want Drew/Derm? Pigs.
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God I hate norf
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:lol
how anyone has deduced petrie to be sooking out that has me stuffed
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Hope Turner is gonna get looked at for his dirty knee into Vlastuins bonce then. Nice eddie the eagle impression though, the landing was rough as guts.
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Have to agree that knee was not a good look
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and turner wants to play this wek. he should get 1 week for the deliberate knee.
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GGF Petrie!
Smash him Rance!
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Great job by Macitntosh
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Gez we need to put this rattle tin club in its place Sunday living on handouts last 20 years or be longone.
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PETRIE what a wanker and north I don't care if we get beaten in the finlas as long as its not to these pack of scums north they have no respect for us and to complain about this drew had what 5 touches please come on tigers smash these ..... :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
GO U TIGERS
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:lol
another one
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Although I agree that Dermie is the one who raised the issue, Petrie did himself or his club no favours by agreeing with Dermie and then elaborating further on Dermie's pointless point.
If he hadn't done that there wouldn't be a headline....
What's the old saying about not poking the bear :snidegrin
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why? beacause he discussed a tactic being used against him and said how effective it was?
Strange that a footballer may actually discuss football with with an ex footballer.
but I think it’s good defending and I think our defenders employ similar tactics to try and run their opponents off the line of the footy or underneath the footy.
“Providing it’s done properly it’s a fine tactic for all defenders to use but if it becomes a dangerous movement a free kick’s got to be paid.”
yeah, what a sooky sooky la la
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why? beacause he discussed a tactic being used against him and said how effective it was?
Strange that a footballer may actually discuss football with with an ex footballer.
but I think it’s good defending and I think our defenders employ similar tactics to try and run their opponents off the line of the footy or underneath the footy.
“Providing it’s done properly it’s a fine tactic for all defenders to use but if it becomes a dangerous movement a free kick’s got to be paid.”
yeah, what a sooky sooky la la
Agreed. Not a fan of Petrie but surely there is nothing wrong with what he said? That quote shows a balanced view if you ask me
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Heard the audio this morning.
Typical Dermis throwing banana peels everywhere before finals.
Who remembers this wanker instigating the whole Sydney Swans are invicible a few weeks out from finals.
Tell you What, took the pressure off the Hawks and put it on the swans.
Did it last year and trying again, needs to be put back in his stuffing place
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why? beacause he discussed a tactic being used against him and said how effective it was?
Strange that a footballer may actually discuss football with with an ex footballer.
but I think it’s good defending and I think our defenders employ similar tactics to try and run their opponents off the line of the footy or underneath the footy.
“Providing it’s done properly it’s a fine tactic for all defenders to use but if it becomes a dangerous movement a free kick’s got to be paid.”
yeah, what a sooky sooky la la
Agreed. Not a fan of Petrie but surely there is nothing wrong with what he said? That quote shows a balanced view if you ask me
dermie and petrie set up the interview ...
pretty scummy tactics
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In case you haven't heard me expound this, I was 10 feet away Dermie cruised/sneaked up behind Tony Free, 50 metres off play and king hit Tony in the back of the head. Lights out, he never really came back from that incident.
And this idiot gets air time.
I like the statement "almost tunnelling" is that like 'almost legging", "almost holding the ball" FFS Dermie, you are almost a person!!
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-sledges-for-north-melbourne-players-brent-harvey-and-todd-goldstein-jonathan-brown-reveals-brisbane-cheat-sheet/story-fnp04d70-1227517453062
speaking of sooking. Boomer....
Nice of the RFC to let this be seen by langdon of all people.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-sledges-for-north-melbourne-players-brent-harvey-and-todd-goldstein-jonathan-brown-reveals-brisbane-cheat-sheet/story-fnp04d70-1227517453062
speaking of sooking. Boomer....
Nice of the RFC to let this be seen by langdon of all people.
heard him say this last night
pretty cool
mental warfare
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in regards to richmond white board:
- boomer is a girl :snidegrin
- goldie goes missing when slapped :snidegrin
- dal santo is vain :snidegrin
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Its fake
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Lets inflict some severe mental damage on them by kicking goal after goal for 120 minutes!
:gotigers
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Chaplin on SEN today responding to the "tunnelling" claims ...
AUDIO: https://audioboom.com/boos/3548491-troy-chaplin-on-morning-glory
* It’s not a technique we go out with. Tunnelling is extremely dangerous. I had a free kick paid against me in the final quarter and I knew what it was for. But we certainly don’t go out with the intent to tunnel guys. It’s more just using your body to spoil.
* They’re big boys and once they get their arms at full reach, obviously you’re not going to be able to hit the ball. So you’ve got to try and find a way around it.
* It has been around for a while. It’s nothing we haven’t done for the whole year. So, it sort of begs the question, why it has been brought up now?
* It’s something we will continue to do. If we get picked up on it, then as I said, we’ll get picked up on it but we aren’t going out there intentionally to tunnel other guys. That’s not part of us. We know the injuries that can be caused by that. It’s more or less using your body to try and use it as a spoiling mechanism and it’s been around for a long period of time, so we will continue to do it.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-09-08/tigers-dismiss-tunnel-talk
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So, it sort of begs the question, why it has been brought up now?
exactly :shh
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Actually SEN again played Petrie's reply to Dermie's comments this morning
2nd time I've heard it
Petrie's response on the wireless in tone doesn't sound to me as "balanced" as the grabs that were put on the article
He came across as being rapt that it had been bought up and was very quick to answer, don't think Derm had finished asking the question
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That's how I read the state of play in that audio WP.
Chaps has alluded to why it was brought up and I think it was a set up and let's see how many free kicks are paid Sunday as a result
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Brayshaw on the Footy Show tonight sooking about people calling North sooks over the 'tunneling' claim :wallywink.
Nice dorothy dixer too to Drew Petrie on the panel :whistle.
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stuff I hate that club
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Brayshaw on the Footy Show tonight sooking about people calling North sooks over the 'tunneling' claim :wallywink.
Nice dorothy dixer too to Drew Petrie on the panel :whistle.
Brayshaw has a face you just wanna belt.
Try hard.
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Brayshaw is like that undersized kid from school who always got the encouragement award.
Trophy cabinet full of participation certificates
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North's Scott Thompson weighs in on 'tunnelling' tactics
Daniel Cherny
The Age
September 11, 2015
Richmond's key defenders came under fire for alleged "tunnelling" tactics, but ahead of his side's final with the Tigers, North Melbourne stuff Scott Thompson says he employs similar means to his defensive rivals.
Tigers' backmen Alex Rance and Troy Chaplin were the subject of media scrutiny due to the way in which they played against North forwards Drew Petrie and Ben Brown in last Friday night's clash between the two sides at Etihad Stadium. It was suggested that the Tigers had deliberately pushed their opponents under the ball during a number of contests, leaving the Roos vulnerable to injury.
However Thompson came out in support of the Tigers defenders ahead of Sunday's elimination final this week, with positional ties seemingly just as strong as the intraclub bond.
"I haven't really seen too much of it. I heard about it. As a defender, I can't really say anything. I probably do it myself," Thompson said before the Roos' training session at Arden Street on Thursday afternoon.
"So our forwards have obviously seen it and they'll work through it. If they try it again, I'm sure Drew Petrie and Ben Brown have something to combat it.
"I don't think it's tunnelling if you get your hands on the ball, it's just body work.
"It's AFL, so you want a physical contest. If they're still going for the ball I don't see anything wrong with it."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-finals-2015-north-melbournes-scott-thompson-weighs-in-on-tunnelling-tactics-20150910-gjjehr.html
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Its fake
That's what I thought, but that little stuffing twit boomer is "using" it to fire up this week