One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 24, 2015, 06:05:08 PM
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Yep, it's that time of the year for the 'Yeah or Neah' polls ;D.
First up is Matty Dea who is out of contract and didn't play an AFL game this year. He spent the whole year in our VFL side where he played 15 games.
AFL career stats:
Games Kicks Hballs Disp. Marks Tackles G.B Clear. In50 Re50 1%ers
2010: 3 2.3 8.0 10.3 1.7 3.3 0.0
2011: 4 3.8 5.3 9.0 3.0 2.3 0.0
2012: 14 5.6 6.2 11.8 3.8 1.6 0.0 0.1 1.2 0.8 2.4
2013: 3 6.0 4.3 10.3 4.0 1.7 0.0
2014: 7 6.4 6.3 12.7 3.1 1.4 1.0 0.4 0.7 2.6 2.4
2015: 0
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2005&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2010044
Dea's 2015 VFL stats: http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=192156824&client=1-118-150491-339767-20320246&ocompID=339767 (http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=192156824&client=1-118-150491-339767-20320246&ocompID=339767)
So do we hold onto Dea or trade/delist him?
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Six seasons; 31 games
Will confess never been a fan. Think he is poor decision maker
His role is the one Batchelor has and like it or, want to admit or not, Batch passed him this year in a huge way. The games played shows that
So sadly it's time to go. Try and trade but if no takers delist
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Six seasons; 31 games
Will confess never been a fan. Think he is poor decision maker
His role is the one Batchelor has and like it or, want to admit or not, Batch passed him this year in a huge way. The games played shows that
So sadly it's time to go. Try and trade but if no takers delist
X 2
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Nyet, Pizimov!
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I didn't think he had it in him till this year. The guy has been one of our best in our VFL side. Was kept out of the team all year by Newman. He has done everything that has been asked of him in the magoos. You can't do more than that. I'd like to give him one more year. If Batch or Grimes go down, he'll be a good depth player to cover them. He has had games of over 30 possessions off a half back flank and Newman has stunk it up in the seniors. The following week Newman keeps his spot and this guy is overlooked. Not sure why TBH.
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I didn't think he had it in him till this year. The guy has been one of our best in our VFL side. Was kept out of the team all year by Newman. He has done everything that has been asked of him in the magoos. You can't do more than that. I'd like to give him one more year. If Batch or Grimes go down, he'll be a good depth player to cover them. He has had games of over 30 possessions off a half back flank and Newman has stunk it up in the seniors. The following week Newman keeps his spot and this guy is overlooked. Not sure why TBH.
Your 2nd sentence nails it for mine Doc and that is he is a very good, actually makes that excellent VFL player.
But nothing I've seen at VFL level has convinced me he is an AFL player and I reckon that's the problem. Granted he didn't get a look in this year but I am not sold that it would have made any difference
I'll be honest and admit I was generally staggered he got a contract for this season
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Stellar form for the 2nds. Keep and bring in in for 1-2 seasons.
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I didn't think he had it in him till this year. The guy has been one of our best in our VFL side. Was kept out of the team all year by Newman. He has done everything that has been asked of him in the magoos. You can't do more than that. I'd like to give him one more year. If Batch or Grimes go down, he'll be a good depth player to cover them. He has had games of over 30 possessions off a half back flank and Newman has stunk it up in the seniors. The following week Newman keeps his spot and this guy is overlooked. Not sure why TBH.
If he cant get a game in front of Batchelor then he should be delisted. 6 years is enough and for what. so little return with no guarantee the situation will improve. Dea is a player i have liked for a long time but enough is enough.
If we are forever going what if he becomes a good player else where??? we will never move players on as quickly as we should. This is what is happening now, It is hurting our ability to grow the list. Sometimes you just have to cut your losses and be prepared to maybe lose out if the player grasps his chances elsewhere. Sometimes we just have to move on.
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a lot of the vfl reports mentioned him "controlling" the backline.
This is what chaplin is in the side for. I dont think batch is that much better than dea. If he can force batch out, he may indireclty force chaplin out.
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Six seasons; 31 games
Will confess never been a fan. Think he is poor decision maker
His role is the one Batchelor has and like it or, want to admit or not, Batch passed him this year in a huge way. The games played shows that
So sadly it's time to go. Try and trade but if no takers delist
X 2
x 3
Summed it up perfectly.
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a lot of the vfl reports mentioned him "controlling" the backline.
This is what chaplin is in the side for. I dont think batch is that much better than dea. If he can force batch out, he may indireclty force chaplin out.
I would have thought he is a similar type of player/role to Vlastuin but less talented. Batchelor should be performing Vlastuins role as well but again has too many deficiencies.
Batchelor as a tall is terrible and as a medium sized defender who should also provide rebound and great delivery worse.
I know Batchelor has played some decent games this yr but i certainly feel he is an inbetween player who we must do better than. Isuppose we have plenty like that.
Chaplin is in the side as a key defender and all that that includes. Unfortunately Chappy fails miserably in some important areas of the role. Neither Batchelor or Dea are KPDs and in all honesty neither should ever be asked to play as such. Dea and Batchelor will never force Chaplin out of the side the only players we have who could possibly do that are Astbury who we are trading and Elton
who can barely get a kick in the two's. I woukld say effectively Chaplin has no pressure at all on his position.
Hawthorn have a bloke called Angus Litherland who just cant break into their team. He is a 192/90 hard running hbf who defends pretty well. I would be asking about him.
It is no secret the player i want most in the off season is Carlisle and i would also be looking hard at Lachie Plowman a 193/92 tall defender who may become a kpd.
Of course the RFC and it seems most of the supporters have no inclination at all of going at tall defenders or running defenders. It remains a mystery to me.The need is great and becomes even greater if Astbury is traded.
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IF we were to keep him, we have to play him. No ifs or buts. It's that or boot him
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Six seasons; 31 games
Will confess never been a fan. Think he is poor decision maker
His role is the one Batchelor has and like it or, want to admit or not, Batch passed him this year in a huge way. The games played shows that
So sadly it's time to go. Try and trade but if no takers delist
X 2
x 3
Summed it up perfectly.
x 4.
Those inside the Club rated him early on but I've never ever seen why. Decision making with ball in hand and execution skills are very unreliable. So, he'll do a good thing defensively to gain possession and then make a goal-costing howler in the backline. Others have now gone past him as WP said, so I don't see Dea being at Punt Rd next year either.
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Would keep one more year
Injury to Houli or Vlaustin would mean he would get a game
Need insurance
Happy to have him as player 25-30 on list
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It was a real Mystery to me when Grimes was injured late in the season that Dea did not come in.
Even Matthew Richardson was surprised.
I always thought his consistent good form in the VFL would be rewarded. I would be a little disillusioned if I were Matt.
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Wasn't his performances in the VFL keeping him out :shh
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But this bloke was a former basketball player and is our VFL Pendlebury. ::)
Wasn't this the reason we gave him number 7. :whistle
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Won't be getting his name on Mick's locker....just like Astbury won't get his on Richo's...
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Wasn't his performances in the VFL keeping him out :shh
No the likes of Chaplin and Newman are keeping him out :P
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Wasn't his performances in the VFL keeping him out :shh
No the likes of Chaplin and Newman are keeping him out :P
Chaplin is a KPD and Newman played forward this year :huh
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Wasn't his performances in the VFL keeping him out :shh
No the likes of Chaplin and Newman are keeping him out :P
Chaplin is a KPD and Newman played forward this year :huh
Chaplin is a Loose drifting back similar to what Dea played. Only 4cm difference.
Newman played back most of the year as you know and ;D
I guess my maths is poor if there is only 4cm difference between 195cm and 186cm ::). You also have to be kidding if you think Newman played more back than forward.
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Wasn't his performances in the VFL keeping him out :shh
No the likes of Chaplin and Newman are keeping him out :P
Chaplin is a KPD and Newman played forward this year :huh
Chaplin is a Loose drifting back similar to what Dea played. Only 4cm difference.
Newman played back most of the year as you know and ;D
I guess my maths is poor if there is only 4cm difference between 195cm and 186cm ::). You also have to be kidding if you think Newman played more back than forward.
Rounding up or down?
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Dea needs at least 6 games in a row to find & establish himself. If you not going to play the lad then, Trade him for someone who will be playing. Like having another Coughlan on the list :banghead
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yep true comment mate his a list blogger well we have a few of them let me tell yah that I think its time to part ways delist him no-one would want him so we cant trade him
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Delist
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Wasn't his performances in the VFL keeping him out :shh
No the likes of Chaplin and Newman are keeping him out :P
Chaplin is a KPD and Newman played forward this year :huh
Chaplin is a Loose drifting back similar to what Dea played. Only 4cm difference.
Newman played back most of the year as you know and ;D
I guess my maths is poor if there is only 4cm difference between 195cm and 186cm ::). You also have to be kidding if you think Newman played more back than forward.
Tell that to jake bachelor mate
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Oh so you would be happy to have Rance, Dea and Batchelor as our KPD? Surely even you're smarter than that
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Oh so you would be happy to have Rance, Dea and Batchelor as our KPD? Surely even you're smarter than that
The current situation is bachelor plays on resting rucks or monster key forward
While Chappy stands around pointin at his teammates
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Because Chappy is mostly loose,he can afford to take on speed merchants like Nahas
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One more year for mine, but must be given a go, must be in the NAB games all the way through and if he shows enough reward him. He wasn't rewarded for all the hard work this year and he was never given a go. Could be a late bloomer so I am happy for another year.
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Guys like Arnot and Dea really should have been given a chance. Both have big bodies. Need to be thrown in the middle where they are useful.
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^^
:clapping
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Agree - if Dea somehow manages to survive the cut we should be sticking him the guts.
Arnot was a wrecking ball when he first arrived and was even bigger than Wines -albeit considerably less talented- then we had the bright idea to slim him down and try and turn him into the next Jake King...and by the end we were even trying turn him into Luke Hodge. All we really should've ever wanted him to do was hurt people. Never forget his hit on Trent McKenzie up in Cairns - exactly the sort of stuff we don't see nearly enough of from our blokes.
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Agree - if Dea somehow manages to survive the cut we should be sticking him the guts.
Arnot was a wrecking ball when he first arrived and was even bigger than Wines -albeit considerably less talented- then we had the bright idea to slim him down and try and turn him into the next Jake King...and by the end we were even trying turn him into Luke Hodge. All we really should've ever wanted him to do was hurt people. Never forget his hit on Trent McKenzie up in Cairns - exactly the sort of stuff we don't see nearly enough of from our blokes.
Do you mean Rory Thompson? Or am I missing one :pray (or I could be wrong)
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Yeah sorry Rory Thompson....haha stuff...no wonder I couldn't find it on youtube before...had McKenzie's name stuck in my head for some reason...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3w55UWQ_Vw
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Yeah sorry Rory Thompson....haha stuff...no wonder I couldn't find it on youtube before...had McKenzie's name stuck in my head for some reason...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3w55UWQ_Vw
Thompson has never been the same player since!!
Seriously.......
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Agree - if Dea somehow manages to survive the cut we should be sticking him the guts.
Arnot was a wrecking ball when he first arrived and was even bigger than Wines -albeit considerably less talented- then we had the bright idea to slim him down and try and turn him into the next Jake King...and by the end we were even trying turn him into Luke Hodge. All we really should've ever wanted him to do was hurt people. Never forget his hit on Trent McKenzie up in Cairns - exactly the sort of stuff we don't see nearly enough of from our blokes.
Agree. Bump by Arnot that day was brilliant. Set up a goal and took the sails out of Suns that day.
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From BF:
I was up in cairns for footy trip on the weekend - as were the Richmond boys. Same flight up as half of them on Friday and same flight home as a lot of them on Monday lol... Had beers with a few of them actually.
Spoke to Dea for a while and he told me he still hasn't been offered a contract. I'm not sure if that means he is uncontracted or if he has 1 year left? But the way he said it, sounded like he was out of contract. He also said a lot of players were surprised that McDonough was delisted.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-open-discussion-rfc-forum.1114612/page-160#post-41519851