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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Razorblade on October 07, 2005, 12:36:37 AM
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http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/10/06/1128562944395.html
Fevola to stay at Carlton
By Jake Niall
October 7, 2005
The Tigers have come to terms on a trade for Western Bulldog Patrick Bowden, who will be reunited with his brother Joel at Punt Road. In the deal, the clubs will exchange fourth-round draft picks (the Bulldogs moving from 59 to 56) and the Dogs will pay a small amount of Bowden's modest contract.
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
He sucks!
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lmfao@what the Bulldogs offered for him. Let's us know what we're getting.
Basically paid us to take the dud off their hands.
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07 October 2005
Herald Sun
Mark Stevens
Patrick Bowden could yet cross from the Western Bulldogs to join brother Joel at Richmond. It is understood the Dogs and Tigers were last night close to a deal that would involve the exchange of late draft picks.
Bowden has one year of a deal to run at the Dogs and may be offered a one-year extension by the Tigers.
The Tigers and Dogs also haggled over a deal on Bowden at this time last year.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,16840961%255E20322,00.html
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lmfao@what the Bulldogs offered for him. Let's us know what we're getting.
Basically paid us to take the dud off their hands.
That is so true John ;D. We most likely won't be using our 4th pick anyway so we'll get him for nothing.
I don't know why we are chasing after these fringe/VFL players. Sheesh we might even be considering extending his contract to 2 years! Madness! :banghead
Didn't we learn our lesson giving VFL players like Morrison 2-year deals to come to Tigerland :help >:(.
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Good luck to Bowden. I hope he turns it around like his brother.
He is going to cost us sweet fa, and lets face it, can probably do a lot better than the likes of Archibald.
Wallace knows how to get the best out of Pat.
He is 25?
Not sure about extending his one year bulldogs contract though. Give him one to prove himself
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patrick is no dud. i guessed this would happen. he wanted to come to tigerland last yr but after a pretty good 2004 eade would not let him go, likewise with gilbee at the time. imo patrick tanked 2005 to get eade off side and want to release him. he has talent thats why terry wallace chased him last yr. he is no dud and like his bro can play fwd and back. he is very much a right footed joel and i think he will be a find 4 us next yr, means tiv will spend all his last season in the vfl!
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Just heard that Patrick has officially been traded to Richmond for our pick 56.
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Just heard that Patrick has officially been traded to Richmond for our pick 56.
and we get pick 59 from the doggies also and they are paying part of his salary :thumbsup
big win 4 us as we lost nothing and gained a player ready to peak! he played bad this yr only bec he wanted out and be a tiger , he wasnt happy and tanked it 4 sure
everyong keeps baging him saying he is a dud , just another joel, well hello , joel made AA and dual best and fairest
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Bowden moves to Tigers
11:17:29 AM Fri 7 October, 2005
Scott Spits
Exclusive to afl.com.au
Richmond has completed a trade to get Patrick Bowden - the younger brother of Tigers stalwart Joel Bowden - from the Whitten Oval to Punt Road.
In the first completed trade on the final day of the five-day AFL trading period, the Tigers have swapped their fourth round selection (No.56 overall) to the Dogs for the 24-year-old.
The younger Bowden made his debut for the Bulldogs in 2001 after being picked up with the No.58 selection at the 1999 NAB AFL Draft. He has 50 matches for the Bulldogs in five seasons.
A promising forward, Patrick Bowden has steadily developed and played 19 games and kicked 27 goals in 2004. But he only managed eight games this season, despite picking up more than 20 possessions in each of the first two rounds.
His older brother, 27-year-old Joel Bowden, has played 192 matches for the Tigers since 1996. He won the club's best-and-fairest award in 2004.
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=233679
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I'm not unhappy with this either, this could be a good get, HE WANTS TO PLAY FOR US. Which makes a big difference to attitude. He'll have a good year :thumbsup
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I'm not unhappy with this either, this could be a good get, HE WANTS TO PLAY FOR US. Which makes a big difference to attitude. He'll have a good year :thumbsup
i agree
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Capital D Capital U Capital D.
Cant wait to hear the reasoning behind this one.
I said I will support all our players and I will now support him - AT COBURG :scream
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and we get pick 59 from the doggies also and they are paying part of his salary :thumbsup
Close but no cigar ;D
Going by what's being reported we only got the player - no pick to the Tigers just young Patrick. :rollin
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He was horrible in that VFL grand final!
I'm hoping that a new club and being reunited with his former coach and his brother helps him perform!
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Well I am happy with that outcome, as I think that with our young list, three from this years draft would be suffucient to maintain the continuity.
He is in the right age bracket for our list and I hope as would his knockers also hope that he makes them eat their words
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Looks like in 2006 a Tiger fan tradition may re-appear.............................
Bowden bashing :lol :rollin :lol :rollin :rollin
Just kidding folks ;D
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and we get pick 59 from the doggies also and they are paying part of his salary :thumbsup
Close but no cigar ;D
Going by what's being reported we only got the player - no pick to the Tigers just young Patrick. :rollin
Miller was just on SEN. He said we could have taken pick 59 but we aren't going that far in the draft anyway so we didn't bother. Basically got Bowden for nothing. Greg said we are done.
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Miller also said that the WB will provide some assistance with Patrick’s payment (didn’t give any details).
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I do not understand... if we could have got pick 59 for nothing, we should still have taken it. Perhaps we could have scored a winning trade with one of our lower picks and still had 59 to fall back on. At the very least, we could abstain with 59 and stop another developing club from picking up a youngster.
I'm becoming less and less impressed with Miller's egotistical antics.
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Looks like in 2006 a Tiger fan tradition may re-appear.............................
Bowden bashing :lol :rollin :lol :rollin :rollin
Just kidding folks ;D
:rollin
Tivs will be happy Joel's brother is coming to Punt Road ;D.
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I do not understand... if we could have got pick 59 for nothing, we should still have taken it. Perhaps we could have scored a winning trade with one of our lower picks and still had 59 to fall back on. At the very least, we could abstain with 59 and stop another developing club from picking up a youngster.
I'm becoming less and less impressed with Miller's egotistical antics.
It would have stopped the doggies from picking a youngster up late but they've just traded Rawlings so that pick #59 will be about their 6th pick. If they don't use it which seems the case then it won't make a difference.
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Bowden moves to Tigers
12:59:51 PM Fri 7 October, 2005
Scott Spits
Exclusive to afl.com.au
Patrick Bowden will finally get the chance to play in the AFL alongside his older brother Joel at Richmond after securing a move to Punt Road on Friday in a deal the Tigers' football director Greg Miller described as "good for everybody."
Miller finally snared the 24-year-old younger brother of the Tigers' dual best and fairest winner after failing to secure a trade deal with the Bulldogs for him last year.
But 12 months later and with Bowden stagnating at the Bulldogs, where he managed just eight games in 2005, the Dogs were willing to accept the Tigers' fourth round draft pick in exchange - pick 56 - with the deal the first one done on the final day of player trading on Friday.
"We spoke to Patrick 12 months ago and we couldn't come to a deal with the Bulldogs," Miller told Sportal on Friday.
"But 12 months later he is in the middle of a two year contract and the Bulldogs need to make some room on their list for some younger players and some new players and they were prepared to let him go at a bargain basement price."
Bowden managed just 50 games in five seasons with the Bulldogs but the Tigers are confident he will improve at Punt Road where he will join not only his brother Joel but also his original AFL coach - former Bulldogs and now Tigers' boss Terry Wallace.
"We think there is a lot of upside to Patrick," Miller said.
"Terry has coached him before and knows where he can best utilise his abilities and of course he joins our best and fairest winner, his brother Joel."
Miller said the younger Bowden could become an important player for the Tigers because of his versatility.
"That (versatility) is the name of the game," Miller said.
"He can play on the wing, he can got back or roll forward so he is pretty versatile."
The recruitment of Patrick Bowden ensures another chapter will be added to what is already a proud family name at Tigerland.
Not only has older brother Joel won the past two Jack Dyer Medals as well as gaining All-Australian honors for the first time this year but their father Michael played in the Tigers' 1969 premiership team while older brother Sean also played for the club in the early 1990's.
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=233698
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Patrick Bowden
(http://westernbulldogs.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/article/233677em.jpg)
Height: 191cm
Weight: 91kg
Recruited From: Rovers (NT)
Debut: 2001
Date of Birth: 4 August 1981 (24 y.o.)
ABOUT 2004
The promising forward continued his steady development in 2004 with a modest 27 goals in 19 games (he booted 22 goals in 17 matches in 2003), including a season high of four against the Demons in round three. Was among the side's leading marks (95) and was prepared to present himself as a target further up the field as shown by his 60 inside 50s. Not always the most consistent kick for goal, but the younger brother of Tiger Joel Bowden still has plenty of improvement in him.
DRAFT HISTORY
1999 National AFL Draft 4th round selection (Western Bulldogs) No. 58 overall.
PLAYER STATS
Season Club Games Kicks Marks Hball Poss FF FA Goals Behinds Conversion H-O
2001 WB 2 3 2 3 6 1 0 0 0 0.00% 0
2002 WB 4 17 6 16 33 0 0 1 0 100.00% 0
2003 WB 17 116 70 67 183 6 6 22 5 81.48% 8
2004 WB 19 156 95 81 237 8 13 27 16 63% 12
2005 WB 8 57 57 38 142 6 5 5 6 45% 1
Total 50 349 230 205 601 21 24 55 27 67.07% 21
Average 6.98 4.6 4.1 12.02 0.42 0.48 1.1 0.54 0.42
Player Statistics - Patrick Bowden
AFL 2005 Premiership Season
Round Date vs. K H P M HO T FF FA G B
Round 1 - Easter & Season Launch 28/03/2005 Collingwood 11 9 20 9 0 0 0 1 1 0
Round 2 02/04/2005 Melbourne 12 9 21 10 1 1 2 0 1 1
Round 3 - Rivalry Round 10/04/2005 Richmond 8 5 13 7 0 2 0 0 2 3
Round 4 16/04/2005 West Coast Eagles 2 2 4 2 0 0 1 1 0 0
Round 5 - Anzac Day 23/04/2005 Adelaide 5 2 7 3 0 1 0 1 1 1
Round 12 - Queens Birthday 11/06/2005 Port Adelaide 4 3 7 2 0 0 0 1 0 1
Round 15 10/07/2005 Fremantle 5 1 6 3 0 0 0 0 0 0
Round 16 17/07/2005 Adelaide 10 7 17 2 0 0 3 1 0 0
http://westernbulldogs.com.au/default.asp?pg=players&spg=playerprofile&personid=13578
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Coburg just go themselves a forward lol
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One more reason for the Bulldogs to boo us :rollin
At 191cm I reckon we got him to play in defence as a replacement for Mark Graham. Let's hope Wallace can weave some magic as Bowden had a shocker 2005 at the doggies.
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Trade you Hawthorns first 4 picks for this mastermind trade.
Patrick Bowden ................ lets all pray that he was foxing all 2005 in an attempt to being offloaded.
Cant see it happening, atleast Coburg will be happy tonight.
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Morrison > Pee Bowden
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Our previous forays into dual sibling contracting has been a bit hit and miss. Will the Bowden's reach the respectable heights of the Gale boys or will they end up like the Bowers? (although I don't think the Bowers actually took the field in a game together as I think Brendan was drafted by the Bummers the same year Nathan joined the Tigers. If someone knows, feel free to confirm it for me.)
Anyway I hope they end up performing more like the Gale boys.
Does anyone know if there have been any other brothers playing for the Tigers in recent history?
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Does anyone know if there have been any other brothers playing for the Tigers in recent history?
The last ones I can think of before the Gales tiga were the PICKERINGS - Michael & Justin :thumbsup
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Thanks WP. :cheers
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Morrison > Pee Bowden
get real!
some of u tigers fans ar just too much, how about u buy a magpie membership next year. we have a new player on our list , bro of aa and dual b and f, son of prem player, and all u can do is bag him eb4 he has set foot in the door! bloody hell give the kid a break, he is over 190cm tall, can play either end or as a tall wingman, and do u think terry would have wanted him if he is a dud??????
now how about you get off his case show some respect and give him a chance. its not liek he is a tiv or chaffey and been here over 5 yrs and showed sweet fa. remember this time last yr the bulldogs said no way to a trade , they knew his value, he has always wanted to be a tiger and i have no doubt this yr was poor bec 1/ he wasnt happy and 2/ wanted to be traded.
so how about welcoming him to punt raoad in a positive way , the lasy thing he needs 4 his confidence is to read "alleged" tiger fans already bagging him
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ditto!!!!!!!!!!!! x-cited :thumbsup
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Does anyone know if there have been any other brothers playing for the Tigers in recent history?
How soon we forget tiga lol ;D
the great Duncan ;) and Andrew Kellaway.
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Morrison > Pee Bowden
get real!
some of u tigers fans ar just too much, how about u buy a magpie membership next year. we have a new player on our list , bro of aa and dual b and f, son of prem player, and all u can do is bag him eb4 he has set foot in the door!
So because he has a brother and a father who have achieved something we should cut him some slack? PHARK HIM!
bloody hell give the kid a break, he is over 190cm tall, can play either end or as a tall wingman, and do u think terry would have wanted him if he is a dud??????
He is not a kid, he's 24 years old, he has been in the system for years and years, he is tall but can't take a mark, he can be put on a wing but he is too slow to be any good there. lmfaooo@ Pee Bowden being crap for 5 years to fool everyone into allowing him to play with his brother. I think Terry picked him up with no expectations and Pee will deliver on that.
now how about you get off his case show some respect and give him a chance. its not liek he is a tiv or chaffey and been here over 5 yrs and showed sweet fa. remember this time last yr the bulldogs said no way to a trade , they knew his value, he has always wanted to be a tiger and i have no doubt this yr was poor bec 1/ he wasnt happy and 2/ wanted to be traded.
so how about welcoming him to punt raoad in a positive way , the lasy thing he needs 4 his confidence is to read "alleged" tiger fans already bagging him
Chaffey and Tivendale have done WAY more than Pee Bowden has X. FFS he has averaged 10 touches and a goal per game for 5 years! He makes your mate Krak look busy!
He has been so bad as to warrant my scorn and if he turns it around I'll apologise to him. Till then I'll be taking pot shots at him whenever I can.
BTW, the Morrison> Bowden thing was a bit of a joke, NO ONE is worse than Morrison, but I think that lowly of Pee as to put him in the same sentence.
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how many bad games has pee bowden played 4 the tigers????
until he has we should welcome him and give him every chance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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:help
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Does anyone know if there have been any other brothers playing for the Tigers in recent history?
How soon we forget tiga lol ;D
the great Duncan ;) and Andrew Kellaway.
Don't forget the powerhouse duo that was Desmond and Stephen Ryan :lol
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Dont rate Bowden at all.
However, a 4th round draft pick is not the end of the world.
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I do not understand... if we could have got pick 59 for nothing, we should still have taken it. Perhaps we could have scored a winning trade with one of our lower picks and still had 59 to fall back on. At the very least, we could abstain with 59 and stop another developing club from picking up a youngster.
It turns out you can't pass on picks that were gained in trades. So that's why we didn't take pick 59 as we're not going to use our 4th round pick in the draft.
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Are the Dogs still paying BowWowDen's contract?
Hopefully lol
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Apparently they're paying some of it Moi!
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Why all the negative stuff on Patrick?? :banghead Like most members ive spoken too they all support the move to Tigerland. Has any of the knockers even seen Patrick play? I take it they havent. He plays a similar style of game to his brother. Cant be all that bad can it??????
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Why all the negative stuff on Patrick?? :banghead Like most members ive spoken too they all support the move to Tigerland. Has any of the knockers even seen Patrick play? I take it they havent. He plays a similar style of game to his brother. Cant be all that bad can it??????
A. Yes i have seen him play, a number of times, both at AFL and VFL level.
B. He plays on the other side of the ground to his brother.
As for the answer to your question, because he isn't a very good player!
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He does play exactly like his brother, only he gets less than half of the ball Joel does.
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He does play exactly like his brother, only he gets less than half of the ball Joel does.
Patrick is NOT a HBF sweeper!
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He does play exactly like his brother, only he gets less than half of the ball Joel does.
Patrick is NOT a HBF sweeper!
Wallace wants to make him a wingman.
Sunday Herald Sun
09 October 2005
Richmond coach Terry Wallace has also challenged Patrick Bowden to seize the day as a Tiger after six inconsistent seasons at the Bulldogs.
Wallace has foreshadowed a new role for Bowden as a tall marking wingman.
Bowden has finally made his way to the Tigers after an aborted trade last year. He will become the fourth member of his family to play at the club, after brothers Joel and Sean, and father Michael, a 1969 premiership player.
Wallace said Bowden would be given plenty of opportunities at Richmond, but it was time the player he drafted at the Bulldogs in 1999 to make good on his talent.
"I know exactly what we are getting," he said. "It is warts and all. I know the good side, the potential, and what he can and can't do.
"Last year didn't work out. He thought he had a point to prove with the Bulldogs, which is fair enough, but it didn't work out his way through the year . . .
"Over the next 18 months he must take a step-up or his career is starting to get away from him."
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,16861902%255E20322,00.html
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Still totally different to the way Joel plays.
He'll be more of a HFF who pushes up the ground and marks on the wings.
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Joel can play anywhere Razor.
He wouldn't look out of sorts on the wing or up forward.
His brother lacks some of his natural talent and ball winning ability, but they aren't too disimilar in style.
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He does play exactly like his brother, only he gets less than half of the ball Joel does.
Patrick is NOT a HBF sweeper!
Wallace wants to make him a wingman.
Sunday Herald Sun
09 October 2005
Richmond coach Terry Wallace has also challenged Patrick Bowden to seize the day as a Tiger after six inconsistent seasons at the Bulldogs.
Wallace has foreshadowed a new role for Bowden as a tall marking wingman.
Bowden has finally made his way to the Tigers after an aborted trade last year. He will become the fourth member of his family to play at the club, after brothers Joel and Sean, and father Michael, a 1969 premiership player.
Wallace said Bowden would be given plenty of opportunities at Richmond, but it was time the player he drafted at the Bulldogs in 1999 to make good on his talent.
"I know exactly what we are getting," he said. "It is warts and all. I know the good side, the potential, and what he can and can't do.
"Last year didn't work out. He thought he had a point to prove with the Bulldogs, which is fair enough, but it didn't work out his way through the year . . .
"Over the next 18 months he must take a step-up or his career is starting to get away from him."
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,16861902%255E20322,00.html
Too slow for a wingman. :P
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Joel joy as Patrick progresses to Punt Road
10:29:32 AM Tue 11 October, 2005
Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
It’s been a massive few weeks for Joel Bowden since the end of the 2005 season . . .
First-up, the Richmond deputy vice-captain was named on a half-back stuff in the ’05 All-Australian side. This was his inaugural All-Australian selection.
Then, he made it back-to-back Jack Dyer Medals, with a one-vote win (over Matthew Richardson) in the Club’s Best and Fairest count.
A couple of weekends ago, ‘Bowdo’ married his long-time girlfriend Katie in his hometown of Alice Springs.
To cap off this momentous time in Bowdo’s life, last Friday his younger brother Patrick was traded to Richmond from the Western Bulldogs in exchange for pick No. 56 overall at next month’s AFL National Draft.
Patrick Bowden, 24, 191cm and 91kg, has played 50 games and kicked 55 goals since making his senior league debut in 2001.
He becomes the fourth member of the Bowden clan to play for Richmond, following in the footsteps of brothers Joel and Sean and his father Michael, who was a member of the Tigers’ 1969 premiership side.
The Bowdens are a close-knit family, and Joel was delighted when he heard the news late last week that Patrick would be joining him at Punt Road . . .
“It’s an exciting time at Richmond for starters. We’re on the way up, we’ve had solid improvement in 2005 and we’re looking for more improvement as the years go on under Terry (Wallace). But also, to have my younger brother come and be part of that, is going to be a really special feeling for me,” Bowden said.
“I’ve watched him at the Bulldogs with keen interest and have seen him play some very good games. Hopefully, he can come to Richmond and replicate those quality games that he’s played with the Dogs, further improve, and be a solid week-in, week-out contributor for us.
“Terry wouldn’t have got him to the Club if he didn’t think he had something to offer.”
Bowden remarked that his parents were “overjoyed” their two AFL-playing sons would now be teammates together at Tigerland.
“Mum and Dad are just very, very happy. Because Dad’s played here and Sean’s played here, I’m here, and now Patrick comes to the Club, it’s continuing on a family tradition that we find very special,” he said.
“We’ve got a big, strong family, and football’s a great medium for bringing us all together. We get on the phone and talk to each other about what’s happening . . . Because it’s on the TV, they can see and know what we’re doing. Now, with us both at the same club, it’s going to be even more interesting.”
Joel hasn’t yet spoken to Patrick about his move to Richmond: “He’s overseas and uncontactable at the moment . . . Hopefully, I’ll be able to speak to him in the next couple of days,” he said.
The 27-year-old veteran of 192 league games with the Tigers, is off overseas himself tomorrow, on his honeymoon with Kate. When he returns in early November, he’ll have an extra spring in his step for pre-season training.
“It’s going to be exciting to be training with Patrick and spending so much more time with him. I’m really looking forward to it . . .” he said.
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=233963
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Tiger brothers-in-arms
12:40:15 PM Tue 11 October, 2005
Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
When Patrick Bowden pulls on the famous Yellow and Black guernsey for the first time in the 2006 season, the Bowdens will become only the fourth family in Richmond’s league football history to have three brothers represent the Club at senior level.
Patrick, who was traded by the Western Bulldogs to Richmond late last week, joins his older brother Joel at Punt Road, with another brother, Sean, having played with the Tigers in the early 1990s.
The Bowdens will step up to the elite ‘three-brothers’ list at Tigerland upon Patrick’s Richmond debut, joining the Bowers (1980s-90s), the Weatherills (1910s-20s) and the Rush clan (1910s-1920s).
There have been several other instances in the Tigers’ history of brothers playing under 19s or reserve-grade football, but not going on to join their siblings in senior company at the Club.
I have not included those players in the following list of Tiger ‘brothers-in-arms’. The playing career details (courtesy of ‘The Tigers Of Old’ book) relate to Richmond senior games only, and the surnames appear in alphabetical order . . .
• Geoff Ablett (16 games, 12 goals, 1983-84) and Kevin Ablett (5 games, 0 goals, 1984)
• Bernard Anderson (4 games, 2 goals, 1959-60) and Noel Anderson (12 games, 0 goals, 1959-60)
• Neil Balme (159 games, 230 goals, 1970-79) and Craig Balme (3 games, 0 goals, 1983)
• Bill Barrot (121 games, 106 goals, 1961-70) and Wes Barrot (4 games, 0 goals, 1973-74)
• Sean Bowden (6 games, 0 goals, 1990-91), Joel Bowden (192 games, 148 goals, 1996- ) and Patrick Bowden (yet to debut for the Tigers)
• Brendan Bower (92 games, 19 goals, 1986-91), Darren Bower (3 games, 2 goals, 1987) and Nathan Bower (74 games, 22 goals, 1991-98)
• David Cloke (219 games, 272 goals, 1974-82, 1990-91) and Peter Cloke (28 games, 4 goals, 1970-73)
• Fred Cook (81 games, 12 goals, 1944-49) and Keith Cook (26 games, 1 goal, 1944-46)
• John Currie (3 games, 1 goal, 1952) and Max Currie (34 games, 17 goals, 1947-51)
• Max Evans (7 games, 3 goals, 1947-48) and Ron Evans (26 games, 36 goals, 1946, 1948-49)
• Arthur Fehring (2 games, 0 goals, 1919) and Charles Fehring (21 games, 21 goals, 1917-19)
• stuff Ford (15 games, 11 goals, 1931) and William Ford (1 game, 1 goal, 1927)
• Brendon Gale (244 games, 209 goals, 1990-01) and Michael Gale (91 games, 20 goals, 1994-98)
• Leonard Gibb (1 game, 0 goals, 1914) and Rupert Gibb (4 games, 0 goals, 1922)
• Bruce Godfrey (1 game, 1 goal, 1910) and R.W. Godfrey (4 games, 1 goal, 1917)
• Alex Hislop (128 games, 4 goals, 1917-24, 1927) and Gordon Hislop (22 games, 0 goals, 1923-24)
• James Huggard (33 games, 2 goals, 1919-20, 1922-25) and John Huggard (27 games, 41 goals, 1925-27)
• Len Incigneri (63 games, 5 goals, 1908-11) and Matthew Incigneri (1 game, 0 goals, 1911)
• Duncan Kellaway (180 games, 12 goals, 1993-04) and Andrew Kellaway (157 games, 26 goals, 1998- )
• Arthur Kight (1 game, 0 goals, 1923) and stuff Kight (3 games, 1 goal, 1927-28)
• Brian Lienert (2 games, 0 goals, 1963-64) and Ron Lienert (2 games, 0 goals, 1964)
• Owen Madigan (40 games, 1 goal, 1963-66) and Norman Madigan (2 games, 0 goals, 1964)
• David Moffatt (95 games, 25 goals, 1912-17, 1919-20) and Hugh Moffatt (9 games, 2 goals, 1921-22)
• Jack O’Rourke (44 games, 134 goals, 1949-53) and Basil O’Rourke (4 games, 0 goals, 1951)
• Michael Pickering (136 games, 161 goals, 1984-91) and Justin Pickering (59 games, 53 goals, 1988-91)
• Alan Richardson (103 games, 31 goals, 1959-69) and Rodger Richardson (1 game, 0 goals, 1964)
• Gerald Rush (15 games, 16 goals, 1920), Dr Kevin Rush (7 games, 4 goals, 1923-24) and Leo Rush M.B.E. (2 games, 2 goals, 1912)
• Des Ryan (56 games, 29 goals, 1986-92) and Stephen Ryan (43 games, 39 goals, 1990-93)
• Kevin Shinners (25 games, 0 goals, 1966-68) and Brian Shinners (2 games, 0 goals, 1969)
• Gerald Sier (7 games, 0 goals, 1950) and Ken Sier (38 games, 13 goals, 1948-50)
• Ray Stokes (93 games, 21 goals, 1946-51) and Jervis Stokes (33 games, 31 goals, 1948-50)
• Gordon Strang (116 games, 107 goals, 1931-36, 1938) and Doug Strang (64 games, 181 goals, 1931-35)
• Brian Turner (20 games, 8 goals, 1950-52) and Jack Turner (13 games, 0 goals, 1945-47)
• stuff Uwins (1 game, 1 goal, 1937) and Jack Uwins (6 games, 0 goals, 1937)
• George Weatherill (53 games, 5 goals, 1919-23), Harry Weatherill (6 games, 0 goals, 1919) and Robert Weatherill (72 games, 44 goals, 1917-23)
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=233978
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Do anyone know what number guernsey Paddy Bowden will have?
Cambo's #9 jumper will be retired for the year you'd think as a mark of respect. That leaves 1, 34, 16 and 37 left over from last year.
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No no no no no!!!!!
Don't give him Cambo's jumper!
lol
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Do anyone know what number guernsey Paddy Bowden will have?
Cambo's #9 jumper will be retired for the year you'd think as a mark of respect. That leaves 1, 34, 16 and 37 left over from last year.
I think we will know by Christmas.
I reckon he'll get number 16
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I reckon he'll get number 16
It's been a bit of a dud bigman's guernsey in recent times - Morrison, Holland and Stevan Jackson :help.
Probably the last time we had someone decent where number 16 was Bryan Wood over 20 years ago :-\.
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Then the number should suit him good! :thumbsup
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Bowden aims to help
11:45:10 AM Tue 15 November, 2005
Matt Burgan
Exclusive to afl.com.au
The ability to make a difference in the yellow and black - and not just playing with his older brother - is what will drive Richmond recruit Patrick Bowden in 2006.
Bowden - the younger brother of 2004-05 Jack Dyer Medallist Joel - said it is "exciting" to know that he will be playing with his older sibling in 2006, but he added that helping Richmond gain the four points each week is what's motivating him the most.
"It's been a long time since I've played footy with him. It's probably been since the under 16s and I won't really know what it's like until we actually get out there for the first NAB Cup match," Bowden said.
"I hope I can adjust accordingly - and it's not just about playing footy with him - but it's about winning games for Richmond. I'm looking forward to it, but I know there are bigger things and better things than just playing footy with your brother."
The 24-year-old, who played 50 AFL matches with the Western Bulldogs from 2001-05, said he was "initially disappointed" to leave the Dogs, despite the fact he almost crossed to Punt Rd at the end of the 2004 season.
Bowden said he wanted to play his "whole career" at the Bulldogs, but he was philosophical about his departure from the Whitten Oval.
"My manager and I talked to Richmond last year and it didn't happen last year, because I didn't want to leave the Bulldogs and I thought I was going to be a good player and a needed player," Bowden said.
"This year, the Bulldogs actually wanted to find a trade for me, so they could help me out and help me play more senior football and I was just lucky enough that (Richmond coach) Terry (Wallace) was still keen on me as a football player.
"He thought that I could add more depth and more to the Richmond game plan and he rang me up and he wanted me at the club, so the trade was done and I'm pretty happy about that."
Bowden was exchanged to Richmond on the final day of the recent trade period and he was thankful it didn't occur just before the 2pm deadline.
"I still didn't know coming into the final day, but my trade was done really early in the morning, so it took the anxious wait away from that 2pm period, so it was done and I was happy about that," Bowden said.
But he said it was still a "nerve-racking" experience joining the Tigers, despite knowing that Joel was already at the club.
"It doesn't make the change any easier. I'll still have a point to prove and I'll still have to show all of those guys who are there that I can play," Bowden said.
"They've seen me play for the Bulldogs and they know what I can do on a small scale and I want to show them really what I can do and hopefully I can make my spot in the senior side and really earn respect, hopefully.
"I don't think I'm the saviour because there was a good side there before and they showed that in the first 11 or 12 rounds (in 2005) and I just want to add to that and if I can add to that and get us those extra three or four wins during the season and take us through to the finals - that'd be what I really, really want."
Over the pre-season, Bowden is working on his speed and power. And despite having played most of his football as a forward, he hinted he was not fazed where Wallace wanted him to play.
"It's not really up to me to change my position, but I've played the majority of my football as a forward and if that's where Terry wants me to play, then that's why he's recruited me to play as a forward - I'll do that," Bowden said.
"If he's got other plans for me - whether it's in the backline or stuff - it doesn't bother me and I know I can play a variety of roles around the ground and it just depends on where Terry wants me to play.
"We've had talks and it's going to be exciting to find out where I end up and where I play my best football."
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=237047
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I rate Patrick pretty highly, but he had a sh!thouse season last year, and must show something for us next year.
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I dont rate him.
Be very intersted to see next season if he can become a long term player for us or if he is just 'filling in' untill a Limbach/Meyer types come of age.
Keen on his pre-season and 2006.
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He's got number 9 :thumbsup
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CUB, if you mean P Bowden's jumper number he's got 16. (9 is retired for the year)
Apologies if you meant something else. :)
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CUB, if you mean P Bowden's jumper number he's got 16. (9 is retired for the year)
Apologies if you meant something else. :)
Just doing a bit of fishing fishfinger - trying to stir up trouble - Sorry I was/am bored :thumbsup
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http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/10/06/1128562944395.html
Fevola to stay at Carlton
By Jake Niall
October 7, 2005
The Tigers have come to terms on a trade for Western Bulldog Patrick Bowden, who will be reunited with his brother Joel at Punt Road. In the deal, the clubs will exchange fourth-round draft picks (the Bulldogs moving from 59 to 56) and the Dogs will pay a small amount of Bowden's modest contract.
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
He sucks!
he cant be that bad, i have always though patrick was ok , better than ok, and miller already stated this week that they were all real pleased with patrick and he is already showing that he is one of the most skillful players at the club. not bad for a dud :thumbsup
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http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/10/06/1128562944395.html
Fevola to stay at Carlton
By Jake Niall
October 7, 2005
The Tigers have come to terms on a trade for Western Bulldog Patrick Bowden, who will be reunited with his brother Joel at Punt Road. In the deal, the clubs will exchange fourth-round draft picks (the Bulldogs moving from 59 to 56) and the Dogs will pay a small amount of Bowden's modest contract.
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
He sucks!
he cant be that bad, i have always though patrick was ok , better than ok, and miller already stated this week that they were all real pleased with patrick and he is already showing that he is one of the most skillful players at the club. not bad for a dud :thumbsup
Really, he was never a dud. Being a Bowden his skills were always class - little doubt over that. At 24, 191, 90kg+ you expect him to be a really decent player, not struggling to play even 8 games for the Doggies, only 3 after Round 5.
If he plays anywhere near his potential he will be a wonderful scoop for the Tigers. If he continues his form at the Bulldogs he will be delisted over the next season or 2 as the likes of Meyer, Limbach and co. should be better prospects. He fits in our overall list struture well because the 20-25 year old part on our list is pretty bare, more so for KPP. For only a 4th round draft pick he was a calucalted risk, like Humm which wont be too bad if he doesnt come good. (although i would have loved Austin Lucy 4th round - http://www.footydraft.com/players.php?player=austin_lucy, the Scum got a steal.)
I think the real question is if Pat will be just a stop gap untill some of the kids mture or a real long term solid member of our best 22. Im sure he will have every chance to prove him self.
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Really, he was never a dud. Being a Bowden his skills were always class - little doubt over that. At 24, 191, 90kg+ you expect him to be a really decent player, not struggling to play even 8 games for the Doggies, only 3 after Round 5.
i have no doubt he played crap so he would come out of flavour with eade, he wanted to be a tiger a yr b4 but the doggies didnt wanna trade. dont judge patrick on 05's efforts as he was tanking it
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Really, he was never a dud. Being a Bowden his skills were always class - little doubt over that. At 24, 191, 90kg+ you expect him to be a really decent player, not struggling to play even 8 games for the Doggies, only 3 after Round 5.
i have no doubt he played crap so he would come out of flavour with eade, he wanted to be a tiger a yr b4 but the doggies didnt wanna trade. dont judge patrick on 05's efforts as he was tanking it
Mate, he was crap in the VFL GF - and you do not tank gf's at any level. I will have an open mind and give the guy a chance/support as I will all players on our list.
Having said that I would be surprised if he cemented a spot in our best 22 and was an above average player. C'Mon Paddy prove me wrong, seriously.
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I saw the VFL grand final aswell, and he was nothing short of pathetic!
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I saw the VFL grand final aswell, and he was nothing short of pathetic!
if ur hearts not in it , its just not in it
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Really, he was never a dud. Being a Bowden his skills were always class - little doubt over that. At 24, 191, 90kg+ you expect him to be a really decent player, not struggling to play even 8 games for the Doggies, only 3 after Round 5.
i have no doubt he played crap so he would come out of flavour with eade, he wanted to be a tiger a yr b4 but the doggies didnt wanna trade. dont judge patrick on 05's efforts as he was tanking it
Find that really hard to beleive but hoping your right.
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Blame Mopsy for reminding me of this thread ;).
lmfao@what the Bulldogs offered for him. Let's us know what we're getting.
Basically paid us to take the dud off their hands.
That is so true John ;D. We most likely won't be using our 4th pick anyway so we'll get him for nothing.
I don't know why we are chasing after these fringe/VFL players. Sheesh we might even be considering extending his contract to 2 years! Madness! :banghead
Didn't we learn our lesson giving VFL players like Morrison 2-year deals to come to Tigerland :help >:(.
Oops :wallywink
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Nice to know the memory is still working OK at 73.
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No no no no no!!!!!
Don't give him Cambo's jumper!
lol
A desperate, lonely cry in the wilderness lol
Give it to him now :rollin
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Really, he was never a dud. Being a Bowden his skills were always class - little doubt over that. At 24, 191, 90kg+ you expect him to be a really decent player, not struggling to play even 8 games for the Doggies, only 3 after Round 5.
i have no doubt he played crap so he would come out of flavour with eade, he wanted to be a tiger a yr b4 but the doggies didnt wanna trade. dont judge patrick on 05's efforts as he was tanking it
Find that really hard to beleive but hoping your right.
i was right :thumbsup