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Title: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Bulluss on June 07, 2004, 03:49:58 PM
Danny boy has already told us that Duncs is most likely to pull on the boots this weekend. This is a disgraceful decision and doesnt give any of the other players the confidence that they will be selected on merit.

Sure if Duncs had been playing for the burgers and been in the best atleast 2-3 games in a row then fine, bring him in. But he has been lucky to play 2-3 games at Coburg and now he is going to get a run. We are better off have players such as Hyde and Fleming run with a midfielder than Duncs. We need to look to the future and this decision has underlined why Frawley is a dud coach. You have to feel for people like Morrison and especially Tuck who has been going well and he cant buy a game when we have duds like Hilton running around in the ones.

I cant wait until he is gone. (Hilton and Frawley)
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: froars on June 07, 2004, 04:03:43 PM
Refer to earlier post - S = shiit for brains
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Puntroadroar on June 07, 2004, 04:28:05 PM
Its time dunc released a press conference and told everyone this will be his last game, much like Jason "im an overated footy player" McCartney did against us last year.
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Ox on June 07, 2004, 08:03:19 PM
See Avatar for opinion.
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Jackstar on June 07, 2004, 08:49:16 PM
Hey Bulluss, I will come up with a real logical answer here, certain members of PRE have threaten the RFC to not support the club anymore if they cant see Duncan again. As the RFC would do, they have bowed to the emense pressure from PRE and promoted him back to the seniors.
In a media release that will be released on Thursday, the RFC have advised all supporters who attend the game NOT to wear soft caps but to come well prepared wearing a HARD HAT in the remote chance that Duncan Kellaway does get a kick. The RFC accept no liabilty for any injury received by stray Duncan Kellaway kicks.
BUilders of the new grandstand Grocon are believed to be happy about the decsion to play Duncan as if he does get a kick, there is a distinct possibilty that there could be further demolition of the Olympic stand at no cost to Grocon ;)
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: JohnF on June 07, 2004, 10:09:04 PM
froflmao star.

There better be a press conference on thursday to justify this decision.

Bumfield shouldn't be given a go either until he proves he is good enough.

Just wait for next week's inclusions, Houlihan and Rogers.
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Struggletown on June 07, 2004, 10:36:50 PM
At the risk of playing devils advocate,ld be absolutely spewing if no one was dropped after that meek capitulation last week.I would like to see tuck given a go,and even see young Foley from the rookie list given a crack too.
I find it hard to slag off DK as ridiculous as it is him still being on the list is, he had guts and played his heart out for the club in a time where hard nuts at RFC are as common as chicken teeth.
At least he'd show some balls and set an example that some of the soft overpaid imposters we have could take a leaf from.
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Jackstar on June 09, 2004, 10:24:54 PM
See what eventuates at thursdays press conference  ;)
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Harry on June 10, 2004, 12:13:16 PM
On SEN this morning Spud said that both Kellaway and Blumfield would most likely get a call up because we needed big bodies in the team.

Last time I checked neither of these 2 have big bodies.  Blumfield's main weakness is his strength and physical hardness - always has been.  Kellaway is really struggling and cannot assert the type of hardness he used to.

What is Spud on ??

Is he really this stupid or is it just an act ??
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 10, 2004, 12:48:59 PM
See what eventuates at thursdays press conference  ;)

Yes - think that there maybe a "surprise"  ;) :-X ;D ;)
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Struggletown on June 10, 2004, 12:54:52 PM
If we're playing guessing games are we gonna see Dunc retire allowing Foley to be promoted?

If so l will cheer him off the ground,and the right decision will have been made.
I'd be disappointed if people didn't send him off the right way,l'll remember the guts he showed in a contest rather than a crippled liability on a crap list.
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 10, 2004, 01:06:22 PM
If we're playing guessing games are we gonna see Dunc retire allowing Foley to be promoted?


Don't know anything about a retirement but I think there maybe a another 1st gamer this week
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Struggletown on June 10, 2004, 01:09:31 PM
Lets hope its Tuck,or even a promotion for Axel Foley.
Promoting Dragga again would be a backward step IMO.
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Harry on June 10, 2004, 01:22:57 PM
If we're playing guessing games are we gonna see Dunc retire allowing Foley to be promoted?


Don't know anything about a retirement but I think there maybe a another 1st gamer this week

If it's not Tuck then I can't see who it can be.

We can't promote Foley (don't think so anyway) and Gilmour and Raines are not ready IMO.
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 10, 2004, 01:32:42 PM

If it's not Tuck then I can't see who it can be.

We can't promote Foley (don't think so anyway) and Gilmour and Raines are not ready IMO.

We could promote Foley is they moved Archibald to the long term injury list - he aint gonna play this year or anytime soon

As for Raines and Gilmour - they couldn't do any worse than the likes of Chaffey (aka TGT) or Hilton.

I just want them to play the kids ;)
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Harry on June 10, 2004, 01:46:53 PM

If it's not Tuck then I can't see who it can be.

We can't promote Foley (don't think so anyway) and Gilmour and Raines are not ready IMO.

We could promote Foley is they moved Archibald to the long term injury list - he aint gonna play this year or anytime soon

As for Raines and Gilmour - they couldn't do any worse than the likes of Chaffey (aka TGT) or Hilton.

I just want them to play the kids ;)

Archibald is already on the long term injury list - he made way for Moore.  Confirmed by Miller on Clubbed Corner.

Yeah - the golden turnip is a shocker.

I'd say Raines is more physically prepared at this stage for a call up than Gilmour.  Raines is improving with every game and he is not overwhelmed with the physical aspect of the game IMO.  As long as he keeps improving at this rate he could be something.  Gilmour looks like a boy playing against men.

Foley would stand out like a sore thumb if he was elevated and was given maximum game time.......no doubt about that.

As long as the kids get sufficient game time and are not rotting on the bench.  If Splud is gonna keep em on the bench then I'd rather they not get promoted.  Roach's extended stint on the bench has definately adversely affected his fitness and his development.
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Tiger Spirit on June 10, 2004, 03:14:08 PM
Roach's extended stint on the bench has definately adversely affected his fitness and his development.

What about Hartigan HH.  How do you think he’s going at the moment?  The first few weeks he was getting plenty of game time, but the last few he seems to have been on and off the bench quite a bit.  Can’t be doing him much good.
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: wrennyboy on June 10, 2004, 03:16:42 PM
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Archibald is already on the long term injury list - he made way for Moore.  Confirmed by Miller on Clubbed Corner.

Hmmm if thats true then there still should be one spot left on the list.

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Foley would stand out like a sore thumb if he was elevated and was given maximum game time.......no doubt about that.

You really think so?? I like this kid alot something about him but i havent watched him play just read all the good reports about him. What position do u guys think that he would play at RFC?? And i mean fair point about roach give game time not sit on the pine. Hartigan has played every game since round 11 and given a little bit of game time so i say put foley on the senior list and give him game time!!!!

Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 10, 2004, 03:39:50 PM
Hmmm if thats true then there still should be one spot left on the list.


Exactly what I was thinking Wrenny.

We went 1 short on the list this season to give the chance to a rookie to be promoted if they deserved it.

I thought they must have used that spot for Moore last week.
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Harry on June 10, 2004, 03:56:33 PM
Hartigan's an interesting one.  There is no doubt that he has done extremely well so far this season.  However the more games he plays the more he seems to be sitting on the bench which is detrimental for his development.  Whenever he has been on he has mostly had run-with roles.  I'm not a fan of this.  Sure it's good to teach a young kid some accountability, but he also needs the freedom to develop his attacking and his "creative" aspect of his game.  Danny Frawley has been very poor in terms of developing young kids.  Under Splud, a kid either a)sits on the bench (mostly), b) is bunkered in the forward line, and c) is given a run with role.  What's wrong with the wing ??  What;s wrong with saying to a kid - look - I'll give you 2 full quarters on the wing and I just want you to run and enjoy your footy" 

Kevin Sheedy does this all the time.  If you pay attention to Essendon, you will notice that Sheedy will always promote a kid and give him sufficient game time on the ground in an attacking, non-accountable role.  He will then demote him in a couple of weeks, regardless of how they played in order that they play some full games in the VFL.  If the kid keeps showing signs he will promote him again, give him an extended run for more games and then back to VFL.  If the kid keeps showing good signs his stay in the firsts is extended each time until he is a regular.  When giving a kid an opportunity he never lets them rot on the bench, never bunkers them in the forward pocket, and never gives them a run-with accountable role.

Just pay attention on how he is developing Bullen and Winderlich at the moment.

I would like to see Hartigan be given extended time on the ground in a free-er role - either on the wing or in the centre as a rover - ruck rover.  He appears to have the ability and smarts to develop into an on-baller IMO.  At the moment there is too much pressure on him as he gets limited game time and when he is on the ground he is given too accountable roles.

Wrennyboy - settle down mate.  Foley looks the goods but he's got a long way to go.  Foley has the potential to be a rover IMO.  He is built like one (low center of grvity), pretty quick (especially the first few yards), and most importantly appears to know how to read a pack situation.  He reminds me of Steven Milne.  What impresses me most is how, where and when he runs.  In a ball up or a throw in situation I like to watch where and how players move before the ruckmen touch the ball.  A true rover should always be moving and darting through or accross the pack situation before the ball is contested by the big guys.  A rover should always have momentum and never be flat footed when the ball falls into their hands.  This appears to be a natural instinct in Foleys game - as I like to say a "good habit".  Too many tigers are flat footed in pack situations.  Krakour and Brown are the only 2 that always "move" and hence why they are the most dangerous at ball ups near goal.
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Tiger Spirit on June 10, 2004, 05:37:02 PM
Hartigan's an interesting one.  There is no doubt that he has done extremely well so far this season.  However the more games he plays the more he seems to be sitting on the bench which is detrimental for his development.

I thought I should be worried HH.  I was getting annoyed with the treatment Roachy got, but at least he’s gone back now to get some form and confidence and was afraid the same thing was happening with Hartigan.  Seeing as he has played every game so far, it’s probably a fair indication of his confidence levels, which is a good sign.  Shows a lot of spirit too.  I don’t know what’s more frustrating, watching us play or watching the young players sitting on the bench losing confidence.

No doubt about Sheeds HH.  Master of his trade.  I’ve thought for some time now that he could coach till he’s 80.  He’s developed a system down there that just keeps the players coming through.  And I also think he has set that Club up to keep generating success, whether he’s there or not.

Meanwhile, we struggle and the development of our talented young players becomes a test of a person’s patience.  Like you say, either give them a go or why play them at all.
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Jackstar on June 13, 2004, 10:15:11 PM
Please, if anyone from Richmond is reading this, enough is enough,today was a joke surely.
To have a player out there who cant kick is a disgrace.
Enough said.!
Title: Re: Why play Duncan Kellaway?
Post by: Bulluss on June 13, 2004, 10:53:09 PM
Unfortunately his time as an AFL footballer is up, Duncs has been a great servant of the club over many years and put his body on the line for us time and time again. But surely he can be man enough to admit that he no longer has what it takes to be an AFL player.

Duncs, you are only harming yourself. Call it quits mate