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Title: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Smokey on November 09, 2015, 10:54:31 PM
Property developer Joe Russo nominates for Richmond board

JON ANDERSON
Herald Sun
November 09, 2015 7:30PM


FRUSTRATION at a lack of ultimate success and a belief “freshness” is required has prompted a Richmond Football Club board challenge from property developer Joe Russo.

Russo, 44, is a 21-year member of the Tigers and sponsors the club’s VFL team. He has also contributed over $1 million to Richmond’s Fighting Fund.

His preference was not to challenge board members Rex Chadwick and Maurice O’Shannassy (who are up for re-election) in the knowledge a board election, set for December 8, would cost around $100,000.

“I hate to cost the club money but in the end it will be a cheap expense that will instil the fresh ideas we require to win a premiership,” said Russo, whose company Caydon is developing the Nylex site in nearby Cremorne.

“And that’s why I nominated before the closing time of 6pm yesterday because I want a premiership. I think we as members deserve a premiership given the loyalty we have shown.

“There are a few people who have been on the Richmond board for a very long time and it’s also a very one-dimensional board given the number of accountancy and legal backgrounds.

“I think a healthy board requires a mix of professional backgrounds, including people like me who come from an entrepreneurial business angle.”

Russo was at pains to highlight his challenge, which will be outlined online, would not become personal and that he believed the club was doing plenty right.

“I think the board has done well in many areas and that we have an excellent coach. But I also feel that to go to the next we require new energy.

“That starts at the top and I think a change at board level will help that process. I was aged nine when we won our last Premiership and that is just way too long.”

The Richmond board, led by president Peggy O’Neal who has been in the role for two years, is currently made up of nine people.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/property-developer-joe-russo-nominates-for-richmond-board/story-e6frf3e3-1227602099882
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Diocletian on November 09, 2015, 11:34:04 PM
Had my vote until this:

Quote
“I think the board has done well in many areas and that we have an excellent coach.


Next...
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 09, 2015, 11:36:39 PM
Had my vote until this....

“I think the board has done well in many areas and that we have an excellent coach.


...next....
He followed that up with "But I also feel that to go to the next we require new energy." So he may still have your vote. :shh
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 10, 2015, 06:00:32 AM
I think we need new people on the board -
There is a sameness about it and they all seem too familiar with each other to actually challenge current thinking
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 10, 2015, 06:51:01 AM

Russo, 44, is a 21-year member of the Tigers and sponsors the club’s VFL team. He has also contributed over $1 million to Richmond’s Fighting Fund.


This is the bit that concerns me

But whatever

Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Petey on November 10, 2015, 07:43:22 AM
He tips money into the footy club and wants us to win a flag.

What a douchebag
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 10, 2015, 10:16:21 AM
He tips money into the footy club and wants us to win a flag.


We all want to win a flag

But....I wait to see how he intends as a board member he is going to ensure this happens.   

I'm always concerned when potential board members flag how much they have given to the club or that they are a sponsor.

What difference does it make? Doesn't mean they will make a good director or that it gives them some special right to a place on the board.

Other direcotrs on the board have given significant amounts to the FTF but I don't see that appearing in the media...

That's why it concerns me

 
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Rodgerramjet on November 10, 2015, 11:01:02 AM
Another one trying to buy his way in, another self promoting, only in it for what it can do for me, Bogan.

Next.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 10, 2015, 11:07:44 AM
He tips money into the footy club and wants us to win a flag.


We all want to win a flag

But....I wait to see how he intends as a board member he is going to ensure this happens.   

I'm always concerned when potential board members flag how much they have given to the club or that they are a sponsor.

What difference does it make? Doesn't mean they will make a good director or that it gives them some special right to a place on the board.

Other direcotrs on the board have given significant amounts to the FTF but I don't see that appearing in the media...

That's why it concerns me
:clapping
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Stalin on November 10, 2015, 11:35:11 AM
get a dictator
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 10, 2015, 12:32:13 PM
Correct bents. Dictator is exactly what this club needs.

These pussys have had it good for too long.

Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 10, 2015, 02:25:57 PM
Correct bents. Dictator is exactly what this club needs.

These pussys have had it good for too long.

 :huh3

Funny I thought we had one of those dictator types about 10 years ago and the majority complained about it and him 

You might have heard of him, IIRC his name was Clinton Casey

 :pillowfight
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Gigantor on November 10, 2015, 04:45:49 PM
I'm with you WP..Feel somewhat uneasy when folks mention how much  folding stuff they have given.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Mardi Gras Tiger on November 10, 2015, 05:18:30 PM
get a dictator

Correct bents. Dictator is exactly what this club needs.

These pussys have had it good for too long.



Yes! We need a dominant alpha type to take control. Only then can we reach the pinnacle.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Muscles on November 10, 2015, 06:39:26 PM
A couple of dominant alpha types would be most welcome on the playing field!
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Gigantor on November 10, 2015, 06:42:54 PM
whats the fascination with dictator types?..history is litered with the abysmal failure of  these types
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Stalin on November 10, 2015, 07:02:09 PM
orly ?

(http://www.asiapundits.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/smilingover.jpg)

wubbish
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 10, 2015, 09:55:52 PM
He tips money into the footy club and wants us to win a flag.


We all want to win a flag

But....I wait to see how he intends as a board member he is going to ensure this happens.   

I'm always concerned when potential board members flag how much they have given to the club or that they are a sponsor.

What difference does it make? Doesn't mean they will make a good director or that it gives them some special right to a place on the board.

Other direcotrs on the board have given significant amounts to the FTF but I don't see that appearing in the media...

That's why it concerns me

Sorry, makes no sense.
No one knows him - it shows he is prepared to put his money where his mouth is.
Hasn't threatened to stop spending money on the club, wants to join for the right reasons.

But let's get all paranoid because he has money  :huh
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 10, 2015, 10:07:10 PM
He tips money into the footy club and wants us to win a flag.


We all want to win a flag

But....I wait to see how he intends as a board member he is going to ensure this happens.   

I'm always concerned when potential board members flag how much they have given to the club or that they are a sponsor.

What difference does it make? Doesn't mean they will make a good director or that it gives them some special right to a place on the board.

Other direcotrs on the board have given significant amounts to the FTF but I don't see that appearing in the media...

That's why it concerns me

Sorry, makes no sense.
No one knows him - it shows he is prepared to put his money where his mouth is.
Hasn't threatened to stop spending money on the club, wants to join for the right reasons.

But let's get all paranoid because he has money  :huh
There are plenty of yobs with a lot of money especially from property development. Just because you have a lot of money, doesn't mean you can add something to our board. He should be outlining how he will improve our board. FFS it's the easiest thing to say that you are frustrated with the premiership drought.  It's much harder to outline exactly how you can change that as a member of the Richmond board. By all means he should be able to nominate himself. For me he must show me what he can bring to the board that will lead us to success. This current board has overseen us become extremely successful off field. Their job is to provide the football department with the best facilities and back up that our budget allows. Ultimately they are not in charge of Chaplin trying to run around Nahas or Cotchin getting 9 disposals in our most important game. Having said that, by the end of the year they will have an easy decision on whether to extend Dimma's contract.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 11, 2015, 07:00:28 AM

Sorry, makes no sense.
No one knows him - it shows he is prepared to put his money where his mouth is.
Hasn't threatened to stop spending money on the club, wants to join for the right reasons.

But let's get all paranoid because he has money  :huh

Has nothing to do with him "having money" or at least it shouldn't ....but

Has to do with the fact that in the article he sells himself with the facts his company sponsors the club and he's tipped in a $1mil to the FTF. I didn't make it about money, he did. He's used it as some sort of badge of honour that should help him get elected. It shouldn't, it should solely about what he brings to the Board table. I am interested to see how he pitches himself to the members eg what his going to bring to the table, his skill set, his expertise.

TBBH I don't want to hear from another person telling me what's (supposedly) wrong with the place I want to hear what they are going to do and sorry saying winning a flag doesn't cut it

Actually as a significant sponsor of the club questions can be raised as to whether there is / would be a conflict of interest here

There are plenty of yobs with a lot of money especially from property development. Just because you have a lot of money, doesn't mean you can add something to our board. He should be outlining how he will improve our board. FFS it's the easiest thing to say that you are frustrated with the premiership drought.  It's much harder to outline exactly how you can change that as a member of the Richmond board. By all means he should be able to nominate himself. For me he must show me what he can bring to the board that will lead us to success. This current board has overseen us become extremely successful off field. Their job is to provide the football department with the best facilities and back up that our budget allows. Ultimately they are not in charge of Chaplin trying to run around Nahas or Cotchin getting 9 disposals in our most important game. Having said that, by the end of the year they will have an easy decision on whether to extend Dimma's contract.

Exactly, well said

Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 11, 2015, 07:23:33 AM
An Italian Aussie dictator with pockets full of cash gets my vote ahead of your try hard Peggy sue types.

When can we vote WP? Stop being paro and get onboard pal



Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Mardi Gras Tiger on November 11, 2015, 03:50:26 PM
Oh yes, thats one ride I'm in for too.

It seems like we have similar likes and dislikes, Angus  :cheers
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Gigantor on November 11, 2015, 05:08:40 PM
i would have thought after the Clinton years we would have become a little more conservative , than just throwing our lot in with people promising a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow .Surely some scrutiny is required beforehand
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 11, 2015, 06:09:37 PM
i would have thought after the Clinton years we would have become a little more conservative , than just throwing our lot in with people promising a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow .Surely some scrutiny is required beforehand

Love how people twist the story and make it about the ca$h  ;D
Where has he promised a pot of gold?
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Gigantor on November 11, 2015, 06:10:58 PM
isnt the premiership a pot of gold?
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Stalin on November 11, 2015, 06:19:28 PM
yes



members would still 'own the club' even if we get a saddam
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: dwaino on November 11, 2015, 06:22:35 PM
inb4 nothing happens.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 11, 2015, 06:38:51 PM
isnt the premiership a pot of gold?

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 11, 2015, 09:13:27 PM
listen boys lets cut the poo. There is no premiership in sight with these clowns in charge. Benny is doing some nice things, but lets face it they are all blowing smoke up dimwits arse, so i see only way out of this with our hands on a cup and thats Dictorship.

Vote 1 Russo. :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 11, 2015, 10:37:33 PM
listen boys lets cut the poo. There is no premiership in sight with these clowns in charge. Benny is doing some nice things, but lets face it they are all blowing smoke up dimwits arse, so i see only way out of this with our hands on a cup and thats Dictorship.

Vote 1 Russo. :thumbsup.

So please enlighten me Angus, how exactly is Russo going to win us a flag?

On a board of 9 he will have one vote, so please tell me how he is gong to make sweeping changes at the club and of course win is a flag?

Actually would be more interested to know what you and others think the actual role of a director on footy club board is.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Penelope on November 11, 2015, 10:37:50 PM
what if the dictator gives Hardwick a five year extension?
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Diocletian on November 11, 2015, 10:43:59 PM
Well...he does think he's an excellent coach.... :shh
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Stalin on November 11, 2015, 11:09:31 PM
what if the dictator gives Hardwick a five year extension?

Get the yanks to make him disappear
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Yeahright on November 12, 2015, 12:00:46 AM

FRUSTRATION at a lack of ultimate success and a belief “freshness” is required has prompted a Richmond Football Club board challenge from property developer Joe Russo.

“I hate to cost the club money but in the end it will be a cheap expense that will instil the fresh ideas we require to win a premiership,” said Russo, whose company Caydon is developing the Nylex site in nearby Cremorne.

“And that’s why I nominated before the closing time of 6pm yesterday because I want a premiership

“There are a few people who have been on the Richmond board for a very long time and it’s also a very one-dimensional board given the number of accountancy and legal backgrounds.

“I think a healthy board requires a mix of professional backgrounds, including people like me who come from an entrepreneurial business angle.”

But I also feel that to go to the next we require new energy.

http://tigermosh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=291

Obviously don't know what he's offering but he does have a point. Probably won't make much of a difference if any but hopefully some freshness (as long as he's not just a yes-man peanut) will at least challenge the thinking of some of the other plebs
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 12, 2015, 06:16:22 AM
listen boys lets cut the poo. There is no premiership in sight with these clowns in charge. Benny is doing some nice things, but lets face it they are all blowing smoke up dimwits arse, so i see only way out of this with our hands on a cup and thats Dictorship.

Vote 1 Russo. :thumbsup.

So please enlighten me Angus, how exactly is Russo going to win us a flag?

On a board of 9 he will have one vote, so please tell me how he is gong to make sweeping changes at the club and of course win is a flag?

Actually would be more interested to know what you and others think the actual role of a director on footy club board is.

How are the current board going to do it?
Do you think that they have clearly articulated what or the how?
How pathetic is their vision - it doesn't even have specific targets.
And before you ask what is Russo going to do, maybe the issue is that he and others need more information on the detail to better understand the situation before speaking about what needs to be done.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on November 12, 2015, 06:32:47 AM
Is Joe Russo a small forward or a midfielder ? 😜😉
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 12, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
Is Joe Russo a small forward or a midfielder ? 😜😉
Skinny flanker. :shh
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Yeahright on November 12, 2015, 12:44:22 PM
Who can also play a small tall Ruckman
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Willy on November 12, 2015, 01:31:50 PM
He's an inside bull in the Andrew Moore mould  :shh
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Gigantor on November 12, 2015, 03:13:42 PM
Reckon hes probably a lumbering VFL backman tops
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 12, 2015, 03:16:52 PM
He's an umpire - no doubt
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Petey on November 12, 2015, 03:17:49 PM
Reckon hes probably a lumbering VFL backman tops

will get a gig on the board then, probably replace piggy oneal even
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Gigantor on November 12, 2015, 04:33:54 PM
The question of who should be on the board raises an interesting question (well as far as I'm concerned it does).
Is our lack of premiership success a board issue or is it the playing groups issue.For the past few months most of our criticism on this site anyway has been directed at our playing group(i also include the football department ).I reckon this is pretty much on the money.The board through Benny G outlined our direction a few years back now.The board will in the end judge the football department who will in turn pass judgement on the playing group..what do you good folk think?
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Stalin on November 12, 2015, 05:32:44 PM
Is Joe Russo a small forward or a midfielder ? 😜😉

he will buy ya gramas house and build 15 apartments before u can say boo
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 12, 2015, 06:03:27 PM
The question of who should be on the board raises an interesting question (well as far as I'm concerned it does).
Is our lack of premiership success a board issue or is it the playing groups issue.For the past few months most of our criticism on this site anyway has been directed at our playing group(i also include the football department ).I reckon this is pretty much on the money.The board through Benny G outlined our direction a few years back now.The board will in the end judge the football department who will in turn pass judgement on the playing group..what do you good folk think?

Great question

That's what I've asked a few times I'd be interested to know what people see the role of a director actually is.


Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: taztiger4 on November 12, 2015, 06:48:54 PM
The question of who should be on the board raises an interesting question (well as far as I'm concerned it does).
Is our lack of premiership success a board issue or is it the playing groups issue.For the past few months most of our criticism on this site anyway has been directed at our playing group(i also include the football department ).I reckon this is pretty much on the money.The board through Benny G outlined our direction a few years back now.The board will in the end judge the football department who will in turn pass judgement on the playing group..what do you good folk think?

Great question

That's what I've asked a few times I'd be interested to know what people see the role of a director actually is.

My thoughts, short version

directors / board set the strategy /strategic pathway or direction for the CEO & employees to strive too, to ensure adherence to the rules/articles/constitution etc maintain controls on corporate governance, risk , financial integrity etc etc ,

Main one for me is not to be asleep @ the wheel, keep an eye on but not interfere with the running of the business, assocation whatever it is
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 12, 2015, 09:07:50 PM
The question of who should be on the board raises an interesting question (well as far as I'm concerned it does).
Is our lack of premiership success a board issue or is it the playing groups issue.For the past few months most of our criticism on this site anyway has been directed at our playing group(i also include the football department ).I reckon this is pretty much on the money.The board through Benny G outlined our direction a few years back now.The board will in the end judge the football department who will in turn pass judgement on the playing group..what do you good folk think?

Great question

That's what I've asked a few times I'd be interested to know what people see the role of a director actually is.

My thoughts, short version

directors / board set the strategy /strategic pathway or direction for the CEO & employees to strive too, to ensure adherence to the rules/articles/constitution etc maintain controls on corporate governance, risk , financial integrity etc etc ,

Main one for me is not to be asleep @ the wheel, keep an eye on but not interfere with the running of the business, assocation whatever it is

Short version, I agree with you

You nailed it in a very concise manner
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 17, 2015, 11:13:57 AM
There is actually a forth person standing.
=======

Richmond Football Club board election notice
November 17, 2015 10:01 AM

All members will have received, or will shortly receive, a ballot for the board election..  The board strongly encourages all members to vote.

There are 4 nominees for the 2 vacant positions.

•  Maurice O'Shannassy and Rex Chadwick are the 2 current directors whose terms are expiring and both are standing for election again.

•  There are 2 members who have also nominated who have not served on the board previously.  Of the member nominees, Jason Dowd has met with the Nominations Committee as required by the election bylaws.  Joseph Russo declined to meet with the Nominations Committee and did not provide the written information which the Nominations Committee requested.

The current board has a consistent record of outstanding financial performance and a productive and constructive working relationship with management across all areas of the Club.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-11-17/richmond-football-club-board-election-notice
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 17, 2015, 11:16:03 AM
Interesting indeed

One person meets with the noms committee and supllies the info required per the by laws

The other newbie, who we know about because he's spoken to a newspaper has declined meeting the noms committee and not supplied the relevant info

***for the record I've said many times I don't agree with the noms committee but the rules are now the rules

So.

Hmmmmm

And no I don't know anything abut the 2nd bloke

Finally for the record I don't agree with the Club website spruiking the 2 current directors (even though in a rather mopinor way) up for re-election, doesn't sit right for an ethical viewpoint
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Yeahright on November 17, 2015, 11:28:21 AM
What does it mean for Russo not meeting with the board?
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 17, 2015, 12:28:39 PM
What does it mean for Russo not meeting with the board?

It doesn't say that; it says he "declined to meet with" the nominations committee, which isn't the board

The nominations committee was set up to interview prespective board candidates back when the Conistitution was changed (4-5 years ago). They are supposed to be independant of the board though I think for memory at least 1 director sits on said committee

All people who intend to nominate are requested to meet the committee to discuss their skill set, what they can bring to the board but also so they can understand what is required of them as a director. The noms committee do make recommendations to the board expecially when it comes to board appointed directors on who is the best candidate

Russo for whatever reason has refused declined to do that, only he can asnwer why he has taken that approach
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Penelope on November 17, 2015, 05:47:44 PM
it doesnt prevent him from running for a position though.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 17, 2015, 05:50:37 PM
it doesnt prevent him from running for a position though.

Obviously not

Will confess I thought it did via the constitutional changes that went through a few years back but clearly it doesn't  :huh3

And BTW, voting details were in my inbox when I got home today

Suggest Mr Russo & Mr Dowd get some info out ASAP, I want to vote  ;D
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Penelope on November 17, 2015, 06:57:32 PM
I'd say then you didnt understand what you were so against.

there are certain things that an individual organisation;s constitution cannot override. the right of any financial member to run for a board/committee position is one of them.

The purpose of this nomination committee is to try to ensure that those running have the necessary qualification/experience/whatever to sit on a board of directors. Any bozo can still run for a board position though, regardless of whether this committee deems them to be not wasting everyones time or not. All they could ever do is recommend that a blow hard not run as they are out of their depth, but not prevent them.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 17, 2015, 08:52:45 PM
I'd say then you didnt understand what you were so against.


No I don't think so

The article highlights above what I thought was the situtation, the article says it is requirement of the election "by-laws" that perspective members meet the noms committee.

So looks like not only have I got it wrong but so to has our own Club web-site

"There are 2 members who have also nominated who have not served on the board previously.  Of the member nominees, Jason Dowd has met with the Nominations Committee as required by the election bylaws.  Joseph Russo declined to meet with the Nominations Committee and did not provide the written information which the Nominations Committee requested.


And BTW I am still not a fan of the Noms Committee, just like I am still against the changes that were made to the constitution

And you are right re your comment about any "bozo"...  :snidegrin

But anyway we move on to the actual election

I can confirm that if you go online to vote to can see the 1 page spiel 3 of the 4 candidates have submitted.... have to say very underwhelming indeed  ;D


Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: taztiger4 on November 17, 2015, 09:07:26 PM
If you received the AGM letter today and intend to vote, please be aware the web address on the back page of the letter is incorrect

it should be

www.votingservices.com.au/rfc2015

I believe the club is aware & will email all members

cheers
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Yeahright on November 18, 2015, 01:34:39 AM
What does it mean for Russo not meeting with the board?

It doesn't say that; it says he "declined to meet with" the nominations committee, which isn't the board


I know but I didn't think anyone would be pedantic about it

it doesnt prevent him from running for a position though.

Thanks, this is pretty much the answer I was looking for
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: one-eyed on November 18, 2015, 04:10:24 AM
Here's the RFC Constitution ...

http://win-cdn220-is-2.se.bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afltigers0/RFCconstitution.pdf

Section 8.2.2 deals with the election of elected directors.  No mention of the nominees committee.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: one-eyed on November 18, 2015, 10:06:32 PM
Here is Joe Russo's campaign website ...

http://anewgameplan.com.au/

IT STARTS AT THE TOP

The Board of the Richmond Football Club has done a good job and I thank them for it. We certainly have more stability and as a consequence, more credibility than we had in the past.

While I am regularly told that we are on the cusp of achieving the ultimate success - an AFL Premiership, the scoreboard does not lie. We haven't won a final since 2001 or a flag in 35 long years. The time has come to expand on the board's ability to provide attractive incentives for current and future players alike. We need to be able to offer players security for life after football through education and resources and this will add much needed depth to the club.


I am standing as a candidate because I want my kids and all Richmond members to experience what I did in 1980. I was at the MCG that day with my father - also a devoted Richmond man.

I can still remember the sheer ecstasy of winning. Since 1980, three generations of Richmond supporters have been left disappointed, deprived of success year after year.

MEET JOE RUSSO

Joe Russo put together the Caydon team in 1999 and is the heartbeat of the company. From humble beginnings, developing townhouses in the outer northern suburbs, he now employs over 60 staff. Joe has completed over $1 billion in developments with a further 4,500 apartments in the pipeline with in excess of $2 billion. This includes the famous Nylex site in Cremorne that will be Melbourne's new inspired destination at the Punt Road end.

He has been a keen Richmond supporter all his life, barely missing a match and has been a significant contributor to the Fighting Tiger Fund under the condition that the VFL development team be bought into competition a year earlier than anticipated.

Joe is a self made man from the outer Melbourne suburb of Thomastown. He understands what it takes to achieve success and will bring a much needed entrepreneurial spirit and business mind to the board. Joe Russo will inject fresh ideas at board level that will work as powerfully for RFC as they have in his own business. He is committed to building Richmond into the strongest and biggest club in the AFL.

SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR A NEW GAME PLAN

Join me in creating this New Game Plan and making the Richmond Football Club the strongest and biggest in Australia.

VOTE FOR JOE RUSSO NOW

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It doesn't matter whose Board it is, all successful Boards need to refresh and evolve. Most of Richmond’s directors have been there for an overly long time and it’s important that being on the Richmond board isn’t viewed as an entitlement.

Hawthorn has introduced a minimum tenure of nine years. They said it is to make sure their Board is “continually revitalised and receives the benefit of fresh thinking and new ideas”. You’d have to say it’s working. A set period of tenure is something I would vote for at Board level.

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Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 19, 2015, 08:30:28 AM
He has been a keen Richmond supporter all his life, barely missing a match and has been a significant contributor to the Fighting Tiger Fund under the condition that the VFL development team be bought into competition a year earlier than anticipated.



 :o

Wow, another contributor to the FTF who put "conditions" on his support .... hmmm
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Penelope on November 19, 2015, 08:59:48 AM
Here is Joe Russo's campaign website ...

http://anewgameplan.com.au/

IT STARTS AT THE TOP

The Board of the Richmond Football Club has done a good job and I thank them for it. We certainly have more stability and as a consequence, more credibility than we had in the past.

While I am regularly told that we are on the cusp of achieving the ultimate success - an AFL Premiership, the scoreboard does not lie. We haven't won a final since 2001 or a flag in 35 long years. The time has come to expand on the board's ability to provide attractive incentives for current and future players alike. We need to be able to offer players security for life after football through education and resources and this will add much needed depth to the club.


I am standing as a candidate because I want my kids and all Richmond members to experience what I did in 1980. I was at the MCG that day with my father - also a devoted Richmond man.

I can still remember the sheer ecstasy of winning. Since 1980, three generations of Richmond supporters have been left disappointed, deprived of success year after year.

MEET JOE RUSSO

Joe Russo put together the Caydon team in 1999 and is the heartbeat of the company. From humble beginnings, developing townhouses in the outer northern suburbs, he now employs over 60 staff. Joe has completed over $1 billion in developments with a further 4,500 apartments in the pipeline with in excess of $2 billion. This includes the famous Nylex site in Cremorne that will be Melbourne's new inspired destination at the Punt Road end.

He has been a keen Richmond supporter all his life, barely missing a match and has been a significant contributor to the Fighting Tiger Fund under the condition that the VFL development team be bought into competition a year earlier than anticipated.

Joe is a self made man from the outer Melbourne suburb of Thomastown. He understands what it takes to achieve success and will bring a much needed entrepreneurial spirit and business mind to the board. Joe Russo will inject fresh ideas at board level that will work as powerfully for RFC as they have in his own business. He is committed to building Richmond into the strongest and biggest club in the AFL.

SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR A NEW GAME PLAN

Join me in creating this New Game Plan and making the Richmond Football Club the strongest and biggest in Australia.

VOTE FOR JOE RUSSO NOW

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It doesn't matter whose Board it is, all successful Boards need to refresh and evolve. Most of Richmond’s directors have been there for an overly long time and it’s important that being on the Richmond board isn’t viewed as an entitlement.

Hawthorn has introduced a minimum tenure of nine years. They said it is to make sure their Board is “continually revitalised and receives the benefit of fresh thinking and new ideas”. You’d have to say it’s working. A set period of tenure is something I would vote for at Board level.

https://www.facebook.com/anewgameplan

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anewgameplan

Youtube: https://youtu.be/NdAi84ynFPk
if that fluff designed to tug at the emotional heartstrings of the unthinking is all he's got, then no wonder he wasnt prepared to sit before the pre selection committee
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 19, 2015, 09:45:05 AM
where do i vote  :clapping  :clapping

set tenure is something i think would work.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 19, 2015, 10:01:44 AM
Here is Joe Russo's campaign website ...

 The time has come to expand on the board's ability to provide attractive incentives for current and future players alike. We need to be able to offer players security for life after football through education and resources and this will add much needed depth to the club.




I am afraid this is sounding like he intends to set up players after football and during their careers. Does he realise that that is now scrutinised heavily and included in salary caps? I hope he has a way around that if that is the case.....
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Stalin on November 19, 2015, 10:04:46 AM


#JeSuisJoeRusso

Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Smokey on November 19, 2015, 11:03:53 AM
He will need to elaborate much more between now and the election if he harbours any thoughts of getting elected.  There was nothing in that short spiel to say what he stood for and what he can bring to improve the board except for "entrepreneurial spirit".  But agree with Dan, happy for the concept of limited tenure to be debated and considered.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Stalin on November 19, 2015, 11:52:32 AM
Should revolutionise , if only to show the French our support
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: RedanTiger on November 19, 2015, 07:34:32 PM
it doesnt prevent him from running for a position though.

For any interested in the Nominations Committee, this was the club release at the time.

Nominations Committee Established (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/theclub/theboard/nominationscommittee/tabid/18473/default.aspx)

The Board of the Richmond Football Club Limited (“Club”) have established a Board Nominations Committee (“Committee”).
 
The committee is responsible for considering and advising the Board on matters relating to the appointment of directors.
 
Specifically, it will establish a transparent and formal procedure to identify individuals who are qualified to become Board members.
 
This process will ensure that at all times, the Board comprises those most suited to adequately discharge its responsibilities and duties.
 
The membership of the Committee will comprise:
 
Ø    Mr Emmett Dunne (Chair)
Assistant Commissioner Victoria Police Ethical Standards Department
35 year career Victoria Police
Australian Police Medal 2010
Graduate Diploma Business Management
130 VFL Games for Richmond and Footscray Football Clubs, Life Member Richmond Football Club, Member Richmond Premiership Team 1980, Member AFL Tribunal 1993 to present
 
Ø    Ms Henriette Rothschild
General Manager of Hay Group Pacific.
Works with Boards and executive teams in the corporate and NFP sector on organisational change, board effectiveness and executive capability. 
Worked with the RFC Board in the past on CEO succession, executive development and Board facilitation.
Psychologist with a business and marketing background.
 
Ø    Mr Michael Green
Practised as a solicitor 1970-1995;
Clerk of Greens List at the Victorian Bar 1996 to the present
Played with the Richmond 1966-1971; 1973-1975
146 games;  82 goals
Played in 1967, 1969, 1973 and 1974 premierships.
Member of the Richmond Team of the Century and the Richmond Hall of Fame.

Ø    Mr Maurice O’Shannassy
Club Vice President
Club Board member since 2004. 
Former Managing Director for Black Rock Investment Management (Australia) Ltd (formerly Merrill Lynch Investment Managers).
 
The Committee in assessing candidates will consider:
Ø    The achievements of the candidate in their careers – both business and non business;
Ø    Compatibility with the balance and diversity of skills, experience and competencies within the existing Board ;
Ø    Compatibility of the candidate’s credentials with the existing strategic needs of the Club; and
Ø    Motivation of the candidate.
 
The Committee will meet and consider potential candidates at the following times:
Ø    During the annual Board nomination period in the lead up to the Annual General Meeting; and
Ø    At other times when a casual vacancy is created through the resignation of an existing director.
 
The Club board member that forms part of the Committee will be rotated periodically.  The Club Board member on the Committee cannot fill the role as Chairperson.  An existing Club director cannot serve on the Committee if their elected term expires in that year.
 
In discharging their responsibilities the Committee members have a duty to act in the best interests of the Club as a whole, irrespective of personal, professional, commercial or other interests, loyalties or affiliations.
 
It should also be noted the Board of the Club have engaged the services of Hay Group to review the operation of the existing Board as a whole and its individual members to ensure that the Board is well placed to achieve its stated objectives in the most effective and efficient manner.

Note that when it was started it included O’Shannassy as the board member. I presume he has been rotated out since he is up for re-election.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Stalin on November 19, 2015, 07:37:21 PM
do something Rothschild ffs
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: RedanTiger on November 19, 2015, 07:41:00 PM
and on the same day, the announcement about the appointment of Speed and Walsh to replace retiring members Cameron and Lord was made.

Speed, Walsh join Tigers' Board
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 28 Oct, 2011


Richmond Football Club today announced that Carl Walsh, chief executive of international accounting firm WHK Melbourne and former International Cricket Council chief executive Malcolm Speed, will fill two newly-created, casual vacancies on its board of directors.

Long-serving Richmond board members Don Lord and Garry Cameron created the vacancies after announcing they were stepping down.

“On behalf of the board, management, staff and our members, I would like to sincerely thank Don and Garry for the valuable contribution they have made to the Richmond Football Club,” Richmond president Gary March said.

“Don and Garry have both served on the Club’s board for over 10 years. Garry spent eight of those years as treasurer and Don was the founder of the critically important Jack Dyer Foundation.

“They have been tireless servants of this football club and I know they will continue to support the Yellow and Black, as they have always done.

“Both men should also be congratulated for recognising that boards need to be refreshed and reinvigorated and they have both taken a most selfless decision.”

The board made these two appointments after several high-quality candidates had been interviewed by the Club’s newly-formed nominations committee.

The nominations committee comprises:

Emmett Dunne - Chairman
Assistant Commissioner (Ethical Standards) Victoria Police and 1980 Richmond premiership player.

Henriette Rothschild
General Manager Hay Group, Pacific.

Michael Green
Former practicing solicitor, Head of Green’s List and four-time Richmond premiership player.

Maurice O’Shannassy
Richmond vice-president and Managing Director, Black Rock Investment Management (Australia).
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: RedanTiger on November 19, 2015, 07:45:26 PM
and then their "election" was announced

The Richmond Football Club also announced it will not hold a board election this year, with football director Tony Free and casual appointments Carl Walsh and Malcolm Speed being returned unopposed.

“Carl and Malcolm were recommended by the Club’s nominations committee after it had interviewed a number of high-quality candidates and they will add greatly to the skill set of our board,” March said.

“We have been able to reinvigorate and refresh our board in line with good governance practices, and it provides great stability in supporting CEO Brendon Gale, management, staff and players, as they strive to deliver us what we all want - a highly-successful football club, both on and off the field.”

At the end of:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/126402/default.aspx
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 19, 2015, 08:11:12 PM
Boys Club
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: one-eyed on November 19, 2015, 09:53:47 PM
Stability has been critical: O’Neal

richmondfc.com.au
19 November 2015


Richmond Football Club will hold its first board election for six years next month, and President Peggy O’Neal has encouraged members to vote in the 2015 ballot.

“It is important that members have their say, because ultimately it is their Club, and this is a democratic process,” O’Neal said.

“I think that we have learned - and often learned the hard way - that stability and unity is critical to success on and off the field. There is no doubt that has had a positive impact on this Club in recent years.

“Successful football teams are underpinned by well governed and administered football clubs, and we have made enormous progress in the past five years. Change for the sake of change is never the answer.

“The incumbents running for re-election have been valuable board members during that period of time.

“The Richmond Football Club has made measured, prudent decisions, and we need to keep steering that course to further strengthen this Club and bring the ultimate prize back to Punt Road.”

Richmond announced its 11th consecutive profit earlier this week, and now has significant cash reserves, after having more than $4.5 million in debt five years ago.

These results have been built on significantly improved football performance, record sponsorship, record membership, and record coterie and corporate support. On top of this, the Club has attracted huge crowds and television audiences.

“This Club is healthy and strong off the field, and we are convinced that on-field we are still moving in the right direction,” O’Neal said.

Details of the election have been distributed to members, and we urge everyone to exercise their right to vote.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-11-19/stability-has-been-critical-oneal
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: one-eyed on November 21, 2015, 12:00:20 AM
Quote from: A New Game Plan
It is not mandatory that candidates meet the Nominations Committee prior to an election.

I took the view that the Nominations Committee could not deal with me fairly. I am challenging the direction and composition of the Board. How could three current directors fairly and impartially treat me and consider my nomination on its merits.

If this was in a business context, no director should sit on the Nominations Committee this close to the election given they would have a very clear conflict of interest!

It also might interest members to know that I was advised that I would not be considered acceptable to the Nominations Committee because I have not received a tertiary education.

I stand on my record – I have a proven track record in business. And I have a proven track record in supporting the Richmond Football Club.

- Joe

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/joe-russo-wants-on-the-board.1117203/page-7#post-42036529

Quote from: A New Game Plan
At all times I commit to working in a collegiate and constructive manner with the Board and Management of the RFC should I be successful and become at director at the Club’s AGM.

I have worked harmoniously with the Club over recent years – as a sponsor of our VFL team and contributor to the Fighting Fund.

Don’t misunderstand the premise of me standing – I believe I have a great deal to contribute. I have also made it clear that I would rather not contest an election but there are directors on the Board who have been in the role for a long time. If they continue to occupy their Board positions what chance do we have to regenerate and position ourselves for future success?

- Joe

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/joe-russo-wants-on-the-board.1117203/page-7#post-42036921
Title: John O’Rourke joins Richmond board/ CEO Benny Gale gains seat on the board (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on November 23, 2015, 04:55:59 PM
O’Rourke joins Richmond board

richmondfc.com.au
23 November 2015


Richmond president Peggy O’Neal today announced that John O’Rourke, founder and chairman of international property and infrastructure company, Plenary Group, has been appointed to the Club’s board of directors, effective immediately.

O’Neal also announced that Richmond CEO Brendon Gale will become a member of the Richmond Football Club board, from the Club’s Annual General Meeting on December 9.

O’Rourke, a lifelong Richmond supporter and prominent member of the Jack’s Club coterie, was appointed to fill the casual vacancy created by the resignation of Carl Walsh in September.  John’s term will expire at the 2017 AGM.

Under the Club’s constitution, the board is required to fill casual vacancies.  O’Rourke was one of a number of highly-credentialed candidates who went before the Club’s Nominations Committee in the past month.  His appointment was then recommended to, and fully endorsed, by the Club’s board.

“John brings a wealth of experience and business acumen to the board, and we are pleased that he wants to play a more significant role at the Club,” O’Neal said.

“He is an enthusiastic supporter of the Richmond Football Club and - like all of us - wants to see the Club achieve the ultimate.  John’s skills will be of great benefit around the board table, and we know that he will make a significant, meaningful contribution.

“The Nominations Committee took great care and a substantial amount of time in meeting with and assessing some truly outstanding candidates on the short list for this vacancy.  The board had identified the skills it needed and the Committee undertook a thorough process in meeting the board’s brief.”

O’Neal said the board had taken the decision a few months ago to change Brendon Gale’s role from the December AGM.

“Brendon has clearly played a central role in building this club in recent years, and the board agreed that it was appropriate for him to have a seat at the boardroom table,” O’Neal said.

For several years, there has been power under the Club’s constitution for the CEO to be invited to sit on the board, but Gale will be the first Richmond CEO to have done so.

“Having both John and Brendon join the board is thoughtful, well-managed change, and that approach has been critical to this Club’s progress over the past five years,” O’Neal said.

Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-11-23/orourke-joins-richmond-board
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 23, 2015, 06:22:55 PM
And Benny now gets an offical seat on the board

Took them 4 years from when those constitution changes went through but they've finally done it

 :thumbsdown
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: taztiger4 on November 23, 2015, 06:23:41 PM
And Benny now gets an offical seat on the board

Took them 4 years but they've finally done it

 :thumbsdown

Cant see the issue
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 23, 2015, 06:38:24 PM
And Benny now gets an offical seat on the board

Took them 4 years but they've finally done it

 :thumbsdown

Cant see the issue

The CEO is accountable to the Board, his performance is judge by the board, he will now be making decisions on himself. He as a director also gets to make a call on whether the coach gets another pcntract or shown the door

Just think there is a conflict

Also, have always been against the constitutional changes that were made 4 odd years ago, this is just another example of those changes.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Gigantor on November 23, 2015, 07:09:13 PM
Hey WP
was hoping you would comment on this...i tend to agree with you..The perception now exists of a conflict of interest it could potentially open up a can of worms.
WP any inkiling why they would do this?
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 23, 2015, 09:52:43 PM
Hey WP
was hoping you would comment on this...i tend to agree with you..The perception now exists of a conflict of interest it could potentially open up a can of worms.
WP any inkiling why they would do this?

I'll be honest I am genuinely surprised they have waited this long to bring the CEO onto the Board.

They have had the option to do it since the constitution was changed. I thought they would have done straightaway.

I have no concrete info as to why now.

But the cynic in me is saying it has something to do with the fact that we are faced with an election this year. The timing of it just seems strange if not a little "suss" to me

Just my take..my cynical take  ;D

Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Rodgerramjet on November 23, 2015, 11:58:00 PM
they are enacting the Gale option now because someone is feeling insecure about the numbers, someone feels they may need Gales vote,

Looking at the 4 statements on the web site I wont be voting for Rex, i don't even think he wrote it himself and there's no substance to it. It could be argued the others aren't that good either, but his i found to be very bad.

I liked Maurice and Dowd i will be voting for them.

Russo is divisive, he is attempting to play the list off against the board with hey I'll look after you because these blokes haven't and wont.

He has already snubbed his nose at the process where as Dowd didn't. Russo is showing a complete lack of diplomacy in the way he is going about this. There is more than one way to skin a cat but arrogance and holding people over a barrel because i've put a million bucks into this place is not going to cut it.

Just tell pricks like that to stuff off.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 24, 2015, 06:55:36 AM
Looking at the 4 statements on the web site I wont be voting for Rex, i don't even think he wrote it himself and there's no substance to it. It could be argued the others aren't that good either, but his i found to be very bad.


reckon they were all incredibly underwhelming for very different reasons

Not one drew me in, having said that I know who I will be voting for
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: blaisee on November 24, 2015, 12:28:57 PM
can anyone please provide me a link to these statemenmts


they are enacting the Gale option now because someone is feeling insecure about the numbers, someone feels they may need Gales vote,

Looking at the 4 statements on the web site I wont be voting for Rex, i don't even think he wrote it himself and there's no substance to it. It could be argued the others aren't that good either, but his i found to be very bad.

I liked Maurice and Dowd i will be voting for them.

Russo is divisive, he is attempting to play the list off against the board with hey I'll look after you because these blokes haven't and wont.

He has already snubbed his nose at the process where as Dowd didn't. Russo is showing a complete lack of diplomacy in the way he is going about this. There is more than one way to skin a cat but arrogance and holding people over a barrel because i've put a million bucks into this place is not going to cut it.

Just tell pricks like that to stuff off.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Rodgerramjet on November 26, 2015, 10:25:58 PM
http://www-au.computershare.com/WebContent/doc.aspx?docid={3dedc598-a227-4d11-8d8d-e865bcae8bb1}&source=document
Title: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on November 26, 2015, 11:34:04 PM
Richmond turmoil tears at heart of club stability

   Caroline Wilson
    The Age
    November 26, 2015 - 8:05PM



The  news that the Richmond Football Club is facing a potentially serious board challenge has come at a time — in AFL terms — of unprecedented financial and political stability and relative, albeit frustratingly modest, on-field success for the club.

It hints at divisions across the current table of directors and is surely a threat to the authority of two-year president Peggy O'Neal.

In other words it should send a shiver of fear up the spine of every Richmond supporter who has watched the Tigers' rebuilding that began under Gary March. That O'Neal would be undermined so soon after taking charge when her alleged misdeeds amount to a lower profile than her predecessors, another elimination final defeat and the failure to secure Adam Treloar is laughable.

More concerning is the ongoing suggestion that the recalcitrant candidate Joseph Russo, a property developer, is being backed by sitting directors. For the Richmond board to be at internal odds with the coach Damien Hardwick coming out of contract should be a matter of grave concern.

Malcolm Speed, the former CEO of the International Cricket Council, has denied he is backing Russo. Disappointed at missing out on the presidency two years ago the suggestion however is that Speed is not against regeneration in the form of the property developer who has refused to be interviewed by the board's nominations committee. The implications are disturbing.

Russo's backers and spokesmen continually hint at a potential presidential change. He and Jason Dowd, a corporate recovery expert, are challenging Rex Chadwick and vice-president Maurice O'Shannassy. Russo has suggested the Richmond board lacks diversity — too many lawyers and accountants — despite proudly boasting the AFL's first woman club president.

Hinting at the Tigers' failure to secure Treloar, his policy statement includes the somewhat baffling pledge: "to expand on the board's ability to provide attractive incentives for current and future players alike." Surely he is not providing an extra incentive for Brett Clothier and his team to scrutinise the club's future salary cap details.

Russo continues: "We need to be able to offer players security for life after football through education and resources and this will add much needed depth to the club." Widespread disappointment followed Collingwood's luring of Treloar and more recently Richmond's relatively modest profit compared with the Magpies but that comparison is odious. It does not reflect the remarkable off-field achievements the club has made under Brendon Gale who has joined the board and would be aghast at any threat to his president. Gale, with O'Neal, Daniel Richardson and Hardwick now head a team of key Tiger individuals — a team united in an alignment now seen as mandatory for on-field success.

And Richmond supporters with long memories remain painfully aware of the dark places where Collingwood-envy can lead.

Richardson might not have secured Treloar but he has re-signed every franchise player on the club's list over the past two season — all of whom could have secured greater riches elsewhere. Surely Deledio, Reiwoldt, Cotchin and Rance believe in the direction the club has taken.

He also stood firm on Dustin Martin when the latter briefly walked out on the club and did not blink when Carlton demanded a first round pick for Chris Yarran. Is Russo hinting that the Magpies offered Treloar some post-football incentives not available at Tigerland?

Richmond supporters like Russo, who is also a sponsor, have every right to feel impatient and frustrated but challenging the board — at a cost of $100,000 — and undermining the authority of the president is pure folly. Those directors who did not support O'Neal's ascension to the presidency should have quit when that decision was made.

The Tigers must wait 10 months to show losing finals is no longer a part of their club culture. Disappointingly, what has for decades now been embedded in Richmond's culture is the crazy belief that to challenge the status quo at board level is a key ingredient for a premiership.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-turmoil-tears-at-heart-of-club-stability-20151126-gl9722.html
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Diocletian on November 26, 2015, 11:46:57 PM
Stfu Caro......half the reason we're too scared to make bold decisions is because of the media constantly regurgitating & perpetuating myths about the club that in reality have barely been relevant since the 90's....
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: mightytiges on November 27, 2015, 04:26:42 AM
I was one of the few (all 3 of us from OER lol) that voted against the changes to the RFC constitution that allowed for 3 appointed directors because I believe all 9 directors should be held accountable to the members and face the members every three years. It's our club after all and it's when things go awry that you regret the reduction of our democratic rights as members.

While there's nothing to back up Caro's claims in her article aside from "hints" from "Russo backers and spokesmen" and quotes from Russo's campaign website, if there's any truth to a division at board level over the leadership of the Club then, especially during an election, we as members should have the right to know who is backing whom. The Club is not the personal plaything of certain coterie types with huge deluded egos who want to play power games in the shadows away from members' scrutiny.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 27, 2015, 08:46:57 AM
This article is exactly why I'd prefer guys like Russo. People ask what prospective board members would do to help the club and yet we rarely see the same accountability from existing board members
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Stalin on November 27, 2015, 08:50:13 AM
Very emotive headline  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Penelope on November 27, 2015, 09:17:31 AM
I was one of the few (all 3 of us from OER lol) that voted against the changes to the RFC constitution that allowed for 3 appointed directors because I believe all 9 directors should be held accountable to the members and face the members every three years. It's our club after all and it's when things go awry that you regret the reduction of our democratic rights as members.

While there's nothing to back up Caro's claims in her article aside from "hints" from "Russo backers and spokesmen" and quotes from Russo's campaign website, if there's any truth to a division at board level over the leadership of the Club then, especially during an election, we as members should have the right to know who is backing whom. The Club is not the personal plaything of certain coterie types with huge deluded egos who want to play power games in the shadows away from members' scrutiny.

all directors are still accountable to the members. Even those appointed can be dismissed by the members.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Penelope on November 27, 2015, 09:18:58 AM
Very emotive headline  ::)
Yeah, seems to be a headline designed to tear at the heart of club stability?
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Stalin on November 27, 2015, 09:35:31 AM
 :snidegrin
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2015, 11:00:46 AM
This article is exactly why I'd prefer guys like Russo. People ask what prospective board members would do to help the club and yet we rarely see the same accountability from existing board members

Have I missed something???? I've checked out the Russo website etc

And I keep coming back to the same thing

What exactly has Russo said he is going to do? Or more to the point how is going to bring about the premiership success that consistently goes on about.

I am not happy with a number of things at board level, board appointed directors being one and the noms committee being another (but there is more than those).

I know some people are unhappy about how the replacement for the Walsh came about but under the constitution that appointment has been made correctly (part of the constitution that wasn't changed BTW)

But and people won't like reading this; we has members need to take some responsilibity for part of situation we find ourselves in. People allowed the constitutional changes to go through. We are now reaping to a point what was sown by apathy

The board and in particular the CEO pushed hard for these changes. As MT mentioned 3 people turned up on the night and voted against the changes (4 votes in all as one person held a proxy). Everyone else by either attendance and voting or more than likely not attending and voting meant the changes went through no questions.

However, we now seem to have people complaining about how people get on the board

Alternatively, we have people who are standing for election that offer very little substance in their pitch other than to criticise the current board (with a bit of White ant-ing behind the scenes thrown in for good measure in it seems). Or the standard play on people's emotion by promising things they refuse to give any detail on how they intend to deliver. Where were they when all these changes happened?

Anyways Off the soapbox and back to Caro's article

IMHO Caro makes a number of valid points, yes the headline is emotive (she doesn't create the headline; domain of the editors) but parts of her article ar more than fair
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Owl on November 27, 2015, 12:38:55 PM
When the board stuffs up, then you kick up a stink, not just because you want to stuff around with our club and use it to bolster your megalomaniacal ego.  Go buy a stuffing Ferrari or Harley Davidson ffs.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Smokey on November 27, 2015, 01:32:44 PM
When the board stuffs up, then you kick up a stink, not just because you want to stuff around with our club and use it to bolster your megalomaniacal ego.  Go buy a stuffing Ferrari or Harley Davidson ffs.

x 2
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Jonesracing82 on November 27, 2015, 02:05:57 PM
this Russo bloke seems a bit of a trouble maker, has refused to do any interviews to get on the board etc....
put up or shut up mate!
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Diocletian on November 27, 2015, 02:13:10 PM
Very emotive headline  ::)
Yeah, seems to be a headline designed to tear at the heart of club stability?

Exactly.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Penelope on November 27, 2015, 03:15:32 PM
This article is exactly why I'd prefer guys like Russo. People ask what prospective board members would do to help the club and yet we rarely see the same accountability from existing board members

Have I missed something???? I've checked out the Russo website etc

And I keep coming back to the same thing

What exactly has Russo said he is going to do? Or more to the point how is going to bring about the premiership success that consistently goes on about.

I am not happy with a number of things at board level, board appointed directors being one and the noms committee being another (but there is more than those).

I know some people are unhappy about how the replacement for the Walsh came about but under the constitution that appointment has been made correctly (part of the constitution that wasn't changed BTW)

But and people won't like reading this; we has members need to take some responsilibity for part of situation we find ourselves in. People allowed the constitutional changes to go through. We are now reaping to a point what was sown by apathy

The board and in particular the CEO pushed hard for these changes. As MT mentioned 3 people turned up on the night and voted against the changes (4 votes in all as one person held a proxy). Everyone else by either attendance and voting or more than likely not attending and voting meant the changes went through no questions.

However, we now seem to have people complaining about how people get on the board

Alternatively, we have people who are standing for election that offer very little substance in their pitch other than to criticise the current board (with a bit of White ant-ing behind the scenes thrown in for good measure in it seems). Or the standard play on people's emotion by promising things they refuse to give any detail on how they intend to deliver. Where were they when all these changes happened?

Anyways Off the soapbox and back to Caro's article

IMHO Caro makes a number of valid points, yes the headline is emotive (she doesn't create the headline; domain of the editors) but parts of her article ar more than fair

On what basis do you believe that a popularity contest will get the best people for the job in?

You complain about directors being appointed rather than elected, then complain about people like russo who give a very good spin that will encourage a lot of people to vote for him, despite not having any real substance? People who know that elections are not won with substance, but emotion and populist double speak?

Or is there a third option for getting people onto the board you know about but haven't told us?
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2015, 03:56:43 PM
On what basis do you believe that a popularity contest will get the best people for the job in?


I don't and that's my point. 

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You complain about directors being appointed rather than elected, then complain about people like russo who give a very good spin that will encourage a lot of people to vote for him, despite not having any real substance? People who know that elections are not won with substance, but emotion and populist double speak?


I have been very consistent with my view about constitutional changes that bought in Directors being appointed by the board. So yes I do complain about it because it makes it very easy for a rotating "jobs for the boys and girls" board table and that isn't a good thing.  So this isn't a case where I've suddenly decided to voice my concerns about it.

I complain about people like Russo and their "spin" because I think we as members deserve better than that. Why? Because that approach treats the members like gullible fools which I don't think the majority are.

Some may disagree with that view but that's how I see it. IMESHO we deserve better than spin.

How hard is it to come and actually be honest and lay all your cards on the table and put some substance behind what you are standing for? Rather than just playing the one card you know will get a great number on your side?

I have absolutely no problem with people standing for the board. I actually am in favour of it but it has to be for the right reasons and done the right way.

My issue with Russo in particular is that I am not sure what his reasons are? He can stand up and say "it's about premierships" but he hasn't told me how is intends to bring/win the said premierships. I want to know what he brings to the table. What areas does he have expertise in? What's his understanding of governance responsibilities and corps law? Outside of his own company what sort of impact can have with sponsorship? Don't think it is that hard.

I am on record as saying I don't agree the noms committee but it is there and so out of respect for the Club and the process that is now in place Russo should have meet with them. Yes, he didn't have to but he should have. The reasons he gave are not valid IMV. He suggested he wouldn't get treated fairly by them if he met them. He then went on to say he had "heard" that the noms committee wouldn't recommend anyone who didn't have a tertiary qualification and that was another reason he didn't meet with them. How does he know that? They were poor excuses when he should have backed himself to impress these people.

At least Dowd has gone through the entire process as it stands rather than picking and chosing. 

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Or is there a third option for getting people onto the board you know about but haven't told us?

Not sure what you mean here or might be implying. But no I don't know of any other way of getting on the board other than the methods covered under the constitution.
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Post by: Penelope on November 27, 2015, 04:12:55 PM
You miss the point completely.

bottom line, if you think having the uneducated masses voting on who spins them around the best is a better way than having a process that nearly every employee has to go through, dont complain about people like Russo. He is playing the process you want in place, in the best way it is to play that process
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: rogerd3 on November 27, 2015, 07:34:48 PM
This article is exactly why I'd prefer guys like Russo. People ask what prospective board members would do to help the club and yet we rarely see the same accountability from existing board members

Have I missed something???? I've checked out the Russo website etc

And I keep coming back to the same thing

What exactly has Russo said he is going to do? Or more to the point how is going to bring about the premiership success that consistently goes on about.

I am not happy with a number of things at board level, board appointed directors being one and the noms committee being another (but there is more than those).

I know some people are unhappy about how the replacement for the Walsh came about but under the constitution that appointment has been made correctly (part of the constitution that wasn't changed BTW)

But and people won't like reading this; we has members need to take some responsilibity for part of situation we find ourselves in. People allowed the constitutional changes to go through. We are now reaping to a point what was sown by apathy

The board and in particular the CEO pushed hard for these changes. As MT mentioned 3 people turned up on the night and voted against the changes (4 votes in all as one person held a proxy). Everyone else by either attendance and voting or more than likely not attending and voting meant the changes went through no questions.

However, we now seem to have people complaining about how people get on the board

Alternatively, we have people who are standing for election that offer very little substance in their pitch other than to criticise the current board (with a bit of White ant-ing behind the scenes thrown in for good measure in it seems). Or the standard play on people's emotion by promising things they refuse to give any detail on how they intend to deliver. Where were they when all these changes happened?

Anyways Off the soapbox and back to Caro's article

IMHO Caro makes a number of valid points, yes the headline is emotive (she doesn't create the headline; domain of the editors) but parts of her article ar more than fair

Agree WP.
is it correct we actually made a loss this year?
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: taztiger4 on November 27, 2015, 07:39:26 PM
This article is exactly why I'd prefer guys like Russo. People ask what prospective board members would do to help the club and yet we rarely see the same accountability from existing board members

Have I missed something???? I've checked out the Russo website etc

And I keep coming back to the same thing

What exactly has Russo said he is going to do? Or more to the point how is going to bring about the premiership success that consistently goes on about.

I am not happy with a number of things at board level, board appointed directors being one and the noms committee being another (but there is more than those).

I know some people are unhappy about how the replacement for the Walsh came about but under the constitution that appointment has been made correctly (part of the constitution that wasn't changed BTW)

But and people won't like reading this; we has members need to take some responsilibity for part of situation we find ourselves in. People allowed the constitutional changes to go through. We are now reaping to a point what was sown by apathy

The board and in particular the CEO pushed hard for these changes. As MT mentioned 3 people turned up on the night and voted against the changes (4 votes in all as one person held a proxy). Everyone else by either attendance and voting or more than likely not attending and voting meant the changes went through no questions.

However, we now seem to have people complaining about how people get on the board

Alternatively, we have people who are standing for election that offer very little substance in their pitch other than to criticise the current board (with a bit of White ant-ing behind the scenes thrown in for good measure in it seems). Or the standard play on people's emotion by promising things they refuse to give any detail on how they intend to deliver. Where were they when all these changes happened?

Anyways Off the soapbox and back to Caro's article

IMHO Caro makes a number of valid points, yes the headline is emotive (she doesn't create the headline; domain of the editors) but parts of her article ar more than fair

Agree WP.
is it correct we actually made a loss this year?

What ? We made nearly half mil profit ???

Remember We are a not for profit organisation , I prefer the term not for loss organisation

Sure the JDF  & FTF helped but aren't they part of our core business ?
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 27, 2015, 08:01:54 PM
 :lol come on WP. Explain how russo is any better or worse than the current appointed clowns on there.

half a million dollars spent on their kolo. Still ranked 8th on footy club spend. Most clubs dont win a flag in that position so what are we missing?

Russo for mine  :thumbsup the joint needs some fresh ideas and a finals win FFS:thumbsup



Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2015, 09:24:01 PM


Agree WP.
is it correct we actually made a loss this year?


Nope,been through the numbers, we made a profit
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2015, 09:29:51 PM
:lol come on WP. Explain how russo is any better or worse than the current appointed clowns on there.

half a million dollars spent on their kolo. Still ranked 8th on footy club spend. Most clubs dont win a flag in that position so what are we missing?

Russo for mine  :thumbsup the joint needs some fresh ideas and a finals win FFS:thumbsup

Actually you've just highlighted what has concerns re Russo.

You've just said the "joint needs fresh idea" but as I've said all along Russo hasn't put forward one. He's played on people's emotions, frustrations call it what you want.

Give me some ideas, some idea of what you intend to bring to the table and I'll listen. He refuses to do that? But if change for the sake of it for no other reason is what's important to your decision making process - go for it

And just on the other "clowns" as you call them, are they all clowns or just a selected few?

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Penelope on November 27, 2015, 10:28:05 PM
lmao. whenever you need proof of the fallibility of the masses making such decisions daniel will provide it.

Russo will help win a final?
 :lol
what position does he play?

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 27, 2015, 10:51:58 PM
Rover, flea like last I heard.

His the man to take us to the promised land nothing is more certain

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Penelope on November 27, 2015, 10:59:55 PM
youve gotta stop meeting up with BoJo in those dark alleys, or at least ignoring he's pillow talk
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: tdy on November 27, 2015, 11:19:50 PM
I think Russos implied claim is he give the board exposure to the property development business where they can offer players investment opportunities to increase their wealth without it being under the salary cap thus attracting players we might at the moment be missing. Like the guy who went to Collingwood over us,treloar wasnt it.  He has a point,clearly other clubs do it. Cameron Ling alluded to it early on in  his TV career as one way players get looked after.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: tdy on November 27, 2015, 11:27:39 PM
That aside for this to come out in public is terribly destabilising and bad for the club. Caro has a valid point there,no club needs this us least of all. I think she is trying to ward off Russo with this article as someone who has lived through it I think she's seen it all before and knows it doesn't end well.  The way I read it she sees this play as an ego trip by Russo. Probably it is.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 27, 2015, 11:50:57 PM
I think Russos implied claim is he give the board exposure to the property development business where they can offer players investment opportunities to increase their wealth without it being under the salary cap thus attracting players we might at the moment be missing. Like the guy who went to Collingwood over us,treloar wasnt it.  He has a point,clearly other clubs do it. Cameron Ling alluded to it early on in  his TV career as one way players get looked after.
The last guy to do that at Richmond was Casey. That turned out to be a disaster. There are also salary cap laws now that include other jobs and post football earnings from sponsors or major club contributors.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Yeahright on November 28, 2015, 12:22:47 AM

But and people won't like reading this; we has members need to take some responsilibity for part of situation we find ourselves in. People allowed the constitutional changes to go through. We are now reaping to a point what was sown by apathy


So it's not the board, Dimma or the players but in fact the members. I like it. Probably mainly those members that sulk a lot about nothing happening and how starved of success they are.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on November 28, 2015, 01:24:08 PM
At least if it really turns to shyte we can always fall back on blaming the members.

Got to hold them accountable  :lol
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Yeahright on November 28, 2015, 01:31:45 PM
They could have controlled the board thus having control over everything. Too bad most are lazy peanuts who rather sook
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Petey on November 28, 2015, 02:54:10 PM
Gotta get big Speedo the leadership
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 28, 2015, 02:57:12 PM
:lol come on WP. Explain how russo is any better or worse than the current appointed clowns on there.

half a million dollars spent on their kolo. Still ranked 8th on footy club spend. Most clubs dont win a flag in that position so what are we missing?

Russo for mine  :thumbsup the joint needs some fresh ideas and a finals win FFS:thumbsup

Actually you've just highlighted what has concerns re Russo.

You've just said the "joint needs fresh idea" but as I've said all along Russo hasn't put forward one. He's played on people's emotions, frustrations call it what you want.

Give me some ideas, so idea of what you intend to bring to the table and I'll listen. He refuses to do that? But if change for the sake of it for no goner reason is what's important to your decision making process - go for it

And just on the other "clowns" as you call them, are they all clowns or just a selected few?

still waiting on the answer to my first question William? Adding to that did the current board members outline their vision before they were appointed.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-11-23/orourke-joins-richmond-board   

Great to see another appointed members vision for the club :thumbsup. At least this ones not your typical legal flog like most of the others
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Diocletian on November 28, 2015, 03:02:20 PM
Stability's great - as long as it doesn't become stagnation...
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on November 28, 2015, 03:51:03 PM
They could have controlled the board thus having control over everything. Too bad most are lazy peanuts who rather sook

I agree. Members, you should have known the board couldn't help but act like assess.

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 28, 2015, 05:07:40 PM

But and people won't like reading this; we has members need to take some responsilibity for part of situation we find ourselves in. People allowed the constitutional changes to go through. We are now reaping to a point what was sown by apathy


So it's not the board, Dimma or the players but in fact the members. I like it. Probably mainly those members that sulk a lot about nothing happening and how starved of success they are.

Was talking about the board instructed now, nothing to with the off field obviously
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 28, 2015, 05:17:14 PM

still waiting on the answer to my first question William? Adding to that did the current board members outline their vision before they were appointed.


Angus, a bit hypocritical of you to mention I've not answered one of your questions, you do it constantly.   ;D

Board appointed directors don't have to outline their vision to the members. just like people who stand but we don't have an election because the number of candidates equals the number of vacancies. On that case they are elected unopposed

Of the current mob who got elected onto the board via  members voting, the most recent was Rex Chadwick (by a massive margin I might add) and his "vision" was clearly explained and obviously embraced by the members.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: rogerd3 on November 28, 2015, 06:49:41 PM


Agree WP.
is it correct we actually made a loss this year?


Nope,been through the numbers, we made a profit

Cheers for that.
I'm sure I have heard Russo state the opposite.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Petey on November 28, 2015, 06:56:21 PM
you stuffing liar. he said without the donations we would have made a loss
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 28, 2015, 07:45:03 PM
you stuffing liar. he said without the donations we would have made a loss

Are you directing your liar comment to me or rogerd3?

If you are directing it at me I stand by what I said

Based on the full financials and the requirement of following accounting standards and corps law which the club is bound to do the club made a profit.

"Without donations"?  :huh I would suggest going by what I've read that is simply untrue. Take away any line of revenue you can say the club wouldnt have made a profit.

If Mr Russo is referring to contributions made to the FTF or the Jack Dyer Foundation, then I suggest he take a lesson in accounting standards and corporation law and understand what a business is required to do with regard to revenue they control. One hopes he is not "scare mongering" regarding the off field

The FTF is a revenue arm of the club, where the funds come from is not relevant it is part general operations of the club. The club doesn't list the FTF revenue separately. Legally they don't have to as it falls under general ops revenue to it gets included in one of the standard categories. Should the list it separately? IMV yes they should but they are not required to legally so they don't. 

Is the Club too reliant on its operation and what it generates? That is another discussion altogether. Though, I have flagged every year since its inception my concerns about how much the club relies on it. However, it is indeed genuine ops revenue and form parts of the club bottom line.

As for the JDF, same rules apply in that in that the club ultimately controls the funds so they are bound by law to include it as part of its revenue and profit. The difference between the JDF and the FTF is that there is special deed arrangement that states what the funds must be used for. Yes all funds received are deemed "donations" but there's is nothing underhanded here; club is following their legal obligations. To suggest otherwise is well.... I'll leave it at that 

couple of key areas of revenue that increased significantly 2015 -v- 2014:

- gaming revenue up $1.9 mil
- sponsorship marketing up $715+k
- JDF contributions up $284k


Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Petey on November 28, 2015, 08:15:54 PM
rogerd. he said Russo has been running around saying we made a loss, which is not what he said
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 28, 2015, 09:00:28 PM

still waiting on the answer to my first question William? Adding to that did the current board members outline their vision before they were appointed.


Angus, a bit hypocritical of you to mention I've not answered one of your questions, you do it constantly.   ;D

Board appointed directors don't have to outline their vision to the members. just like people who stand but we don't have an election because the number of candidates equals the number of vacancies. On that case they are elected unopposed

Of the current mob who got elected onto the board via  members voting, the most recent was Rex Chadwick (by a massive margin I might add) and his "vision" was clearly explained and obviously embraced by the members.

sure okay so once again can you please answer me question.

If you are content with the current directors please explain to me why they are superior to Russo's? Its an honest question as i would like to know. If its the fact we delivered a profit then say it. If its personal reasons then declare it.

not hard bello

 



Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 28, 2015, 09:08:13 PM
Stability's great - as long as it doesn't become stagnation...

Or complacency
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 28, 2015, 09:46:03 PM

sure okay so once again can you please answer me question.

Any chance one day you can answer some of the questions I've posed to you?

Or at least the one I've asked you at least 3 times that you have blatantly refused to answer and that is: Please tell me how Russo is going bring a premiership to the RFC and how as 1 vote out of 9 he is going to make massive changes at the club?

But to answer your "first" question. I don't know if Russo would be any better or worse because he hasn't told me anything outside of trying to play the emotive card to get my vote. He's lack of respect for the process that is now in place is not good enough IMHO. And he can try and spin it any way he likes but IMESHO he has shown a total disrespect to the Club he claims to love and wants to serve but more importantly to members he wants votes from

As for the other 3 standing as I have said a couple of times their pitches to the members I found underwhelming. At least Dowd hasn't made promises he cannot keep

How much clearer can I make it?

All the others currently on the board, outside of Chadwick in 2009 and a few of them that were elected back in 2004 have had to share their visions because they were appointed or filled casual vacancies. When there time came to face election, there were no other candidates so they haven't had to do anything

I also answered your 2nd question in that "appointed" directors don't have present their vision to the members because they are appointed.

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If you are content with the current directors please explain to me why they are superior to Russo's? Its an honest question as i would like to know.

No I am not happy with everyone that currently sits on the board. The current director I am most disappointed in is Speed, not sure what he is doing there if not getting the presidency put his nose so out joint as some have suggested.

However, out of the remaining current board members only 2 are up for re-election. So any others I am not fans of aren't going anywhere until their time for re-election comes and if they have to face an election. Over the years I have take time (call it research if you like) to find out what each does on the sub committee's they sit on; so I have a clear view (IMHO obviously) of their strengths & weaknesses.

Of the 2 that are up for re-election I know what both have done. One in particular I know what he stands for, what he's done behind the scenes without sprouting it of about it to the media and that's Rex Chadwick. As for the other one, I am not here nor there

So, sorry the emotive card that Russo is clearly playing isn't for me but it seems to be enough for you. For me understanding what they bring to the table and stand for does.

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If its the fact we delivered a profit then say it. If its personal reasons then declare it.


What are you talking about?

I have said that after reviewing all the info available the club made a profit. That's what the numbers and the details attached to those numbers says. 

But to make it very clear to you here you go:

Based on all the information available to me via the Full Financial Reports for 2015 which includes all explanatory notes included in the report, applying all the relevant accounting standards and corporation law the RFC has made a profit. Based on the fact that I do this stuff for a living I think I may have some sort of idea what I am talking about.

Clear enough?

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: tdy on November 28, 2015, 10:21:02 PM
I think Russos implied claim is he give the board exposure to the property development business where they can offer players investment opportunities to increase their wealth without it being under the salary cap thus attracting players we might at the moment be missing. Like the guy who went to Collingwood over us,treloar wasnt it.  He has a point,clearly other clubs do it. Cameron Ling alluded to it early on in  his TV career as one way players get looked after.


The last guy to do that at Richmond was Casey. That turned out to be a disaster. There are also salary cap laws now that include other jobs and post football earnings from sponsors or major club contributors.

There appear to be ways as alluded to by Ling.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 28, 2015, 10:36:38 PM
Thanks William il take your criticism on board
I believe you have now answered me question. For a while there I thought you were being obtuse

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Penelope on November 28, 2015, 11:12:14 PM
lol
unlike yourself?
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Diocletian on November 28, 2015, 11:12:30 PM
If anyone's interested, Russo himself is posting in this thread on Big Footy as "A New Game Plan" :

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/joe-russo-wants-on-the-board.1117203/page-5#post-42019538

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 29, 2015, 07:22:10 AM
Very interesting read there Doc  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 29, 2015, 10:09:45 AM
It's not awe inspiring but he is asking questions of the board that WP is asking of him (an outsider).
I mean seriously how on earth can he answer these questions when the board cannot or isn't prepared to answer?
Me thinks board is fat and lazy
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 29, 2015, 10:24:35 AM
It's not awe inspiring but he is asking questions of the board that WP is asking of him (an outsider).
I mean seriously how on earth can he answer these questions when the board cannot or isn't prepared to answer?
Me thinks board is fat and lazy
That's a ridiculous statement.  The current board have totally turned the club around from a financial basket case to a club that has made a profit year after year after year.  This is on the background of increased spending on the football department. We have record membership and the AFL now give us unprecedented exposure with Friday night games.
FFS do you think that this just happens?  It takes a lot of work.  Ok, we all hate losing finals but the bloody board don't run out onto the ground on game day.
The biggest plus from tbe current board is that there are no leaks. When was the last time you could say that about Richmond?
Calling them fat and lazy is one of the most ridiculous things I've read and you give them no credit for turning this vlub around to being one of the biggest clubs in the land.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Tommy on November 29, 2015, 10:48:37 AM
It's not awe inspiring but he is asking questions of the board that WP is asking of him (an outsider).
I mean seriously how on earth can he answer these questions when the board cannot or isn't prepared to answer?
Me thinks board is fat and lazy
That's a ridiculous statement.  The current board have totally turned the club around from a financial basket case to a club that has made a profit year after year after year.  This is on the background of increased spending on the football department. We have record membership and the AFL now give us unprecedented exposure with Friday night games.
FFS do you think that this just happens?  It takes a lot of work.  Ok, we all hate losing finals but the bloody board don't run out onto the ground on game day.
The biggest plus from tbe current board is that there are no leaks. When was the last time you could say that about Richmond?
Calling them fat and lazy is one of the most ridiculous things I've read and you give them no credit for turning this vlub around to being one of the biggest clubs in the land.

2nd those sentiments.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Good work Y & B.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 29, 2015, 10:55:45 AM
There comes a time when a fresh face is required.

500k is handy, but hardly inspiring considering where its come from and what we do with it.

get it to a mil and be in the top quartet of spend then history says we are closer to a flag than mid table clubs.

Ooh yes and perhaps get speed into replace peggy sue. She still believes a pass mark is a finals win :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 29, 2015, 12:27:42 PM
It's not awe inspiring but he is asking questions of the board that WP is asking of him (an outsider).
I mean seriously how on earth can he answer these questions when the board cannot or isn't prepared to answer?
Me thinks board is fat and lazy

You believe he can't in way shape of from tell us what he intends to bring to the table outside of some sort false promise of a premiership and how much he has given to the club?

Do you think he needs some sort of inside info to be able to articulate what he impact he can have on the sponsorship stakes, marketing? Key components of increasing revenues and improving off field fortunes, which by the way is the key role of a director

You think he needs inside info so he can tell us his knowledge and understanding of corporate governance requirements? You don't think he can tell us what sub committees he'd look to serve on based on his skill set and help them improve?

Don't think you need any inside info or answers from the board to be able present this sort of stuff to members, these represent the things you stand for.

So despite him being an outsider, he can tell us a lot more than he appears to be willing to do without hiding behind an excuse of not having info or answers

Just my take


Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: yandb on November 29, 2015, 01:21:00 PM
It's not awe inspiring but he is asking questions of the board that WP is asking of him (an outsider).
I mean seriously how on earth can he answer these questions when the board cannot or isn't prepared to answer?
Me thinks board is fat and lazy
That's a ridiculous statement.  The current board have totally turned the club around from a financial basket case to a club that has made a profit year after year after year.  This is on the background of increased spending on the football department. We have record membership and the AFL now give us unprecedented exposure with Friday night games.
FFS do you think that this just happens?  It takes a lot of work.  Ok, we all hate losing finals but the bloody board don't run out onto the ground on game day.
The biggest plus from tbe current board is that there are no leaks. When was the last time you could say that about Richmond?
Calling them fat and lazy is one of the most ridiculous things I've read and you give them no credit for turning this vlub around to being one of the biggest clubs in the land.

Except the leaks through Caro they want leaked.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Diocletian on November 29, 2015, 01:25:57 PM
A ship in the harbour is safe but that's not what ships are built for....
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: blaisee on November 29, 2015, 02:06:10 PM
This article is exactly why I'd prefer guys like Russo. People ask what prospective board members would do to help the club and yet we rarely see the same accountability from existing board members

Have I missed something???? I've checked out the Russo website etc

And I keep coming back to the same thing

What exactly has Russo said he is going to do? Or more to the point how is going to bring about the premiership success that consistently goes on about.

I am not happy with a number of things at board level, board appointed directors being one and the noms committee being another (but there is more than those).

I know some people are unhappy about how the replacement for the Walsh came about but under the constitution that appointment has been made correctly (part of the constitution that wasn't changed BTW)

But and people won't like reading this; we has members need to take some responsilibity for part of situation we find ourselves in. People allowed the constitutional changes to go through. We are now reaping to a point what was sown by apathy

The board and in particular the CEO pushed hard for these changes. As MT mentioned 3 people turned up on the night and voted against the changes (4 votes in all as one person held a proxy). Everyone else by either attendance and voting or more than likely not attending and voting meant the changes went through no questions.

However, we now seem to have people complaining about how people get on the board

Alternatively, we have people who are standing for election that offer very little substance in their pitch other than to criticise the current board (with a bit of White ant-ing behind the scenes thrown in for good measure in it seems). Or the standard play on people's emotion by promising things they refuse to give any detail on how they intend to deliver. Where were they when all these changes happened?

Anyways Off the soapbox and back to Caro's article

IMHO Caro makes a number of valid points, yes the headline is emotive (she doesn't create the headline; domain of the editors) but parts of her article ar more than fair
Willy I have a question that I hope yiu can shed some light on.

What is the board gunna do?

3 0 75 has ended, what is the new plan the new objectives

Do yiu know what they are because I haven't ever met anyone that does know?



Edit: Fixed quoting
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 29, 2015, 03:08:51 PM
To be fair, if you look over most teams websites you cannot see objectives spelt out.

I think it's obvious now. We are aiming to win a premiership. Whether we do achieve this or not, nobody knows. Look at the saints and bulldogs. One premiership each over one hundred years. Just shows how difficult it is. That, of course,  should not deter us.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Petey on November 29, 2015, 04:06:33 PM
no leaks. you must not know anyone or listen to anyone
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 29, 2015, 04:42:06 PM
It's not awe inspiring but he is asking questions of the board that WP is asking of him (an outsider).
I mean seriously how on earth can he answer these questions when the board cannot or isn't prepared to answer?
Me thinks board is fat and lazy
That's a ridiculous statement.  The current board have totally turned the club around from a financial basket case to a club that has made a profit year after year after year.  This is on the background of increased spending on the football department. We have record membership and the AFL now give us unprecedented exposure with Friday night games.
FFS do you think that this just happens?  It takes a lot of work.  Ok, we all hate losing finals but the bloody board don't run out onto the ground on game day.
The biggest plus from tbe current board is that there are no leaks. When was the last time you could say that about Richmond?
Calling them fat and lazy is one of the most ridiculous things I've read and you give them no credit for turning this vlub around to being one of the biggest clubs in the land.

2nd those sentiments.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Good work Y & B.

They have proven to be sophisticated charity workers.
Norf, Saints, Bulldogs (in particular) would be insolvent had they been lumped with Richmond's board.
It's well known that the supporters are what has kept the club afloat, the board have a bunch of accountants who know how to save money. That only gets you so far.
The fact you call it ridiculous just shows how out of touch you are.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 29, 2015, 06:09:41 PM

Willy I have a question that I hope yiu can shed some light on.

What is the board gunna do?

3 0 75 has ended, what is the new plan the new objectives

Do yiu know what they are because I haven't ever met anyone that does know?

Edit: Fixed quoting

Firstly the 3 0 75 was developed by Benny Gale as CEO, it was the strategic plan, vision statement for the club. It got put to the board who signed off on it and who worked with management to ensure all the pillars, directions were in place to enable the club to strive to achieve the objectives of the plan.

That's their role.

Let's be clear here a boards role is not hands on in the day to day running of the business. People seem to think that somehow it is.

But to your question What are the clubs objectives now? To be honest I don't know but I'd also be directing the question to not just the board but the club's management
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Petey on November 29, 2015, 06:19:44 PM
why do we rarely hear anything from the president. i'd like to be kept informed of the clubs plans and goals
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 29, 2015, 06:39:43 PM
why do we rarely hear anything from the president. i'd like to be kept informed of the clubs plans and goals

That's actually funny in an ironic sort of way when we had a president speaking to the media a fair bit people constantly complained about it and wanted him to shut up. So whitish is it


(not having a go at you Petey but more a general comment)

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 29, 2015, 06:46:34 PM
It's not awe inspiring but he is asking questions of the board that WP is asking of him (an outsider).
I mean seriously how on earth can he answer these questions when the board cannot or isn't prepared to answer?
Me thinks board is fat and lazy
That's a ridiculous statement.  The current board have totally turned the club around from a financial basket case to a club that has made a profit year after year after year.  This is on the background of increased spending on the football department. We have record membership and the AFL now give us unprecedented exposure with Friday night games.
FFS do you think that this just happens?  It takes a lot of work.  Ok, we all hate losing finals but the bloody board don't run out onto the ground on game day.
The biggest plus from tbe current board is that there are no leaks. When was the last time you could say that about Richmond?
Calling them fat and lazy is one of the most ridiculous things I've read and you give them no credit for turning this vlub around to being one of the biggest clubs in the land.

2nd those sentiments.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Good work Y & B.

They have proven to be sophisticated charity workers.
Norf, Saints, Bulldogs (in particular) would be insolvent had they been lumped with Richmond's board.
It's well known that the supporters are what has kept the club afloat, the board have a bunch of accountants who know how to save money. That only gets you so far.
The fact you call it ridiculous just shows how out of touch you are.

fantastic post.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Petey on November 29, 2015, 06:49:23 PM
Suppose it depends on what he/she is saying. we don't need a president who says too much, I'd personally just like more information as to what the board's goals for the future are. and the token answers are not what we need.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 29, 2015, 06:59:21 PM
As I wanted to finalise my vote this weekend I decided in fairness to venture over to Joe Russo's website and see if there was anything there that tells me more than what the media has reported.

What caught my eye was that indeed Mr Russo does say that without JDF revenue the club would have made a loss. He goes as far as to say that JDF revenue should NOT be included in the clubs results see: http://anewgameplan.com.au

As I posted last night the club is legal required to include all JDF revenue in its results. Failure to do so is a clear breach of accounting standards and corporation law on this country. To suggest they shouldn't is foolish

Also as I posted the deed for the operation of the JDF isvery very clear. Funds can only be used improving player facilities. All money is kept in a separate bank account which it is as shown in this year's financial report and every other fin report issued since the JDFs inception

It is disappointing that before making the statement he has, Mr Russo didn't check and get clarity on how the JDF works and the legal requirements that need to be followed.

And before anyone jumps on me accusing me of whacking for the sake of it and the club won't  answer his questions. To get this info he doesn't need the detail from the club, he just needs to ask any accountant and considering he runs his own business I reckon it is a fair bet he has one of his own 



"Without donations"?  :huh I would suggest going by what I've read that is simply untrue. Take away any line of revenue you can say the club wouldnt have made a profit.

If Mr Russo is referring to contributions made to the FTF or the Jack Dyer Foundation, then I suggest he take a lesson in accounting standards and corporation law and understand what a business is required to do with regard to revenue they control. One hopes he is not "scare mongering" regarding the off field

Quote

As for the JDF, same rules apply in that in that the club ultimately controls the funds so they are bound by law to include it as part of its revenue and profit. The difference between the JDF and the FTF is that there is special deed arrangement that states what the funds must be used for. Yes all funds received are deemed "donations" but there's is nothing underhanded here; club is following their legal obligations. To suggest otherwise is well.... I'll leave it at that 



Anyways... Time to vote  ;D
 
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 29, 2015, 07:00:55 PM
Suppose it depends on what he/she is saying. we don't need a president who says too much, I'd personally just like more information as to what the board's goals for the future are. and the token answers are not what we need.

Fair call.

That's why I go to the AGMs to get answers. And the best way to get answers is bail the directors up and ask them one on one and don't let them squirm out of giving answers

It works or it has least for me  :thumbsup

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: RedanTiger on November 29, 2015, 07:35:58 PM
As I wanted to finalise my vote this weekend I decided in fairness to venture over to Joe Russo's website and see if there was anything there that tells me more than what the media has reported.

Anyways... Time to vote  ;D
 

WP I haven't got anything from the club regarding voting as yet.
What is the procedure?

I note another candidate.

Tiger candidate: there won't be bloodshed
Jake Niall
 Published: November 28, 2015 - 8:03PM

One of the candidates in the fiercely contested Richmond election says he is not "challenging" the club board and wants "evolution rather than revolution" at Tigerland.

But Jason Dowd, who owns and runs the Mitch Dowd underwear brand, said "there won't be blood in the corridors at Punt Road if one to two board members change".

Dowd said he would continue to support the current board and administration, which had done well to create a stable club and healthy finances. He and Joe Russo are running for the Richmond board independently, contesting positions held by Maurice O'Shannassy and Rex Chadwick, in what is the once-volatile club's first election in six years.

"I'm not challenging the board, I'm simply putting myself up for election," said Dowd. "In fact I think they have done a great job creating a stable environment and turning finances around and would continue to support the current board.

"These elections should be seen as evolution rather than revolution ... and all good organisations recognise the need to renew and inject fresh ideas and thinking. I also believe members should have a say in who runs their club. It's been six years since this has occurred.

"Stability is great, but needs to be balanced by the need for clubs to continue to evolve and improve. Without an  injection of new thinking, you risk complacency."

Richmond president Peggy O'Neal has called for stability  in what was both a clear reference to past volatility and an endorsement of the incumbent board members who are seeking re-election.

Dowd has met with the club's nominations committee and then decided to run for the board.

Dowd said if  elected he would bring "a sense of urgency and manic pursuit of excellence in every part of the organisation ... without that, in a highly competitive environment like the AFL, you will be left behind."

He said he would "encourage the club to be bold in decision making and hold everyone in club accountable for their performance".

The voting for the Richmond election closes on December 4.

Richmond has made 11 consecutive profits, and has risen under Damien Hardwick from near the bottom to make three finals series in a row, but has been unable to win a final. O'Neal, the AFL's first female president of a club, was elected president to replace Gary March late in 2013, in what was seen as a compromise candidate after a tussle between Malcolm Speed and March's vice-president, O'Shannassy. 

This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tiger-candidate-there-wont-be-bloodshed-20151128-glail1.html


Now that's a man I'd vote for if given a vote.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 29, 2015, 08:05:12 PM
WP I haven't got anything from the club regarding voting as yet.
What is the procedure?

....

Now that's a man I'd vote for if given a vote.


If you're member you get a vote...know that you are so...

I Received an email from the club about 10 days ago with a link to the voting page it was an email about the AGM, half way down the AGM email there is something about the election

People who they don't have email addresses for was supposed to get something in the mail is my understanding

Suggest if you have got anything you contact the club first thing tomorrow
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: RedanTiger on November 29, 2015, 08:31:29 PM
If you're member you get a vote...know that you are so...

I Received an email from the club about 10 days ago with a link to the voting page it was an email about the AGM, half way down the AGM email there is something about the election

People who they don't have email addresses for was supposed to get something in the mail is my understanding


Did a search on the club website which gave the notice. At the bottom of the notice was a link to the voting site.
https://www.investorvote.com.au/Login?cn=8378&demo=N

Was able to enrol to vote using member ID etc

All good.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 29, 2015, 09:28:18 PM

Willy I have a question that I hope yiu can shed some light on.

What is the board gunna do?

3 0 75 has ended, what is the new plan the new objectives

Do yiu know what they are because I haven't ever met anyone that does know?

Edit: Fixed quoting

Firstly the 3 0 75 was developed by Benny Gale as CEO, it was the strategic plan, vision statement for the club. It got put to the board who signed off on it and who worked with management to ensure all the pillars, directions were in place to enable the club to strive to achieve the objectives of the plan.

That's their role.

Let's be clear here a boards role is not hands on in the day to day running of the business. People seem to think that somehow it is.

But to your question What are the clubs objectives now? To be honest I don't know but I'd also be directing the question to not just the board but the club's management

Just don't direct it to the RFC Official because you would get sweet stuff all from that dud
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: the claw on November 29, 2015, 10:14:58 PM
I was one of the few (all 3 of us from OER lol) that voted against the changes to the RFC constitution that allowed for 3 appointed directors because I believe all 9 directors should be held accountable to the members and face the members every three years. It's our club after all and it's when things go awry that you regret the reduction of our democratic rights as members.

While there's nothing to back up Caro's claims in her article aside from "hints" from "Russo backers and spokesmen" and quotes from Russo's campaign website, if there's any truth to a division at board level over the leadership of the Club then, especially during an election, we as members should have the right to know who is backing whom. The Club is not the personal plaything of certain coterie types with huge deluded egos who want to play power games in the shadows away from members' scrutiny.

all directors are still accountable to the members. Even those appointed can be dismissed by the members.
Not when so many supporters pee their pants with joy at making finals.
 there are some supporters who think we have underachieved, have taken an extra ordinary amount of time to get where we are and that is basically middling, we think we have achieved nothing on field to date and we cant really see things significantly improving. . I am not surprised there are board members who also  think the same way.
The reason is results and we have as a footy club achieved sweet stuff all.

The only way to keep them honest is by having some  change. It is only when we achieve something  that any one should feel safe. Even then change will be needed.
I am against wholesale changes to the board but boards like footy teams need to refresh and change to get better and succeed. I would be happy for some change, not a take over not something divisive. Lets have someone new come in who has higher expectations and thinks a bit different about what we have done. I have said it heaps of times stagnate  and watch everyone go past you.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Penelope on November 29, 2015, 10:25:27 PM
yeah, well thats weird and off tangent from what i said, even for you
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: the claw on November 29, 2015, 10:42:36 PM
yeah, well thats weird and off tangent from what i said, even for you
I would have thought a great mind like your would have figured out the gist in the very first sentence. I see i give you far too much credit, I see  i will just have to revise my opinion on your ability to understand posts.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Penelope on November 29, 2015, 10:47:00 PM
that would be good and much appreciated.
it may lean towards actually keeping to the point i made when you quote me rather than going off on some bizarre tangent that is not relevant to the quoted post  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: the claw on November 29, 2015, 11:01:54 PM
that would be good and much appreciated.
it may lean towards actually keeping to the point i made when you quote me rather than going off on some bizarre tangent that is not relevant to the quoted post  :thumbsup.
What point would that be penny. Not the point that ALL DIRECTORS ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE MEMBERS. I would say that All directors are not accountable to ALL members.
 I know its a subtle difference but i have to say i expected even the simplest of minds to pick up. As i said i give you way too much credit.To say im disappointed in you young man whoops young lady is an understatement.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 30, 2015, 07:21:59 AM
It's not awe inspiring but he is asking questions of the board that WP is asking of him (an outsider).
I mean seriously how on earth can he answer these questions when the board cannot or isn't prepared to answer?
Me thinks board is fat and lazy
That's a ridiculous statement.  The current board have totally turned the club around from a financial basket case to a club that has made a profit year after year after year.  This is on the background of increased spending on the football department. We have record membership and the AFL now give us unprecedented exposure with Friday night games.
FFS do you think that this just happens?  It takes a lot of work.  Ok, we all hate losing finals but the bloody board don't run out onto the ground on game day.
The biggest plus from tbe current board is that there are no leaks. When was the last time you could say that about Richmond?
Calling them fat and lazy is one of the most ridiculous things I've read and you give them no credit for turning this vlub around to being one of the biggest clubs in the land.

2nd those sentiments.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Good work Y & B.

They have proven to be sophisticated charity workers.
Norf, Saints, Bulldogs (in particular) would be insolvent had they been lumped with Richmond's board.
It's well known that the supporters are what has kept the club afloat, the board have a bunch of accountants who know how to save money. That only gets you so far.
The fact you call it ridiculous just shows how out of touch you are.

fantastic post.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Fantastic post????

You are more deluded than HRT if you think that the post is fantastic. How on earth can anyone make a statement that if Norf, Saints and Bulldogs had our board they would be insolvent now? How could anyone prove this to be anywhere near correct? It can easily be shown to be incorrect too! AFL clubs now cannot be insolvent because of equalisation money and AFL hand outs to prop them up - something those teams already receive!!!!!!

How can the board be that bad? It is under them that our membership has turned around as at one point it was falling now we are 3rd in the league. This is on the background of zero finals success to boost the numbers. Since you say that the supporters have kept the club afloat, why was it that those same supporters were letting the club go broke before this board came in?

You know, the funny thing is if the umpire had paid the obvious holding the ball to Edwards and he kicked the goal putting us in front and if we then went on to win that game against Norf, I would bet my bottom dollar that nobody would be saying the board is fat and lazy! 

Yes, we still do rely of the FTF to make money. I still find that better than relying on the AFL to prop us up. I think the current board is continually improving our financial position on the background of increased football expenditure. That is something that is difficult to do and is an ongoing process. The one thing that would turbo charge this process would be to start winning finals. However, the board does not run out onto the ground to play the game.

I am also not saying that the board cannot do with fresh ideas, but to say they are fat and lazy is disrespectful to a group of individuals that put a lot of money and personal time into the club and on all reasonable counts have done a fine job in making us a big club. They have made us financially strong and marketable despite zero finals success. That is their job and they have done it well.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Penelope on November 30, 2015, 09:39:07 AM
that would be good and much appreciated.
it may lean towards actually keeping to the point i made when you quote me rather than going off on some bizarre tangent that is not relevant to the quoted post  :thumbsup.
What point would that be penny. Not the point that ALL DIRECTORS ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE MEMBERS. I would say that All directors are not accountable to ALL members.
 I know its a subtle difference but i have to say i expected even the simplest of minds to pick up. As i said i give you way too much credit.To say im disappointed in you young man whoops young lady is an understatement.

If you want to come into a conversation half way through then maybe you should read it all and try to understand the context of it.

we are talking about changes to the constitution, and despite the changes, there is still allowance for members to get rid of any board member.

Thats what my statement was in regards to, nothing more.

You jumped in and said it was wrong and started dribbling about supporters wetting themselves?

It doesnt matter how much irrelevant crap you dribble, it doesnt change that.

That was the discussion, but you quoted it, suggested it was wrong then took the discussion down a completely different path.

But then again that is the "workings" of the self proclaimed master football mind known as craw, AKA the rambling man
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 30, 2015, 12:51:53 PM
Y&BB, if they actually communicated as to what exactly the Football Club was trying to achieve with those 5 pillars, how they were going to deliver it and why it was achievable then I'd retract that statement.
Bottom line, it's an uninspired message with no clarity and while it's not the boards remit they should be holding Benny and co responsible for more detail on that plan (it's been a year).
They have done it before 3 0 75 but for some reason they can't or won't put any meat on the bones for the second one.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 30, 2015, 04:41:46 PM
Y&BB, if they actually communicated as to what exactly the Football Club was trying to achieve with those 5 pillars, how they were going to deliver it and why it was achievable then I'd retract that statement.
Bottom line, it's an uninspired message with no clarity and while it's not the boards remit they should be holding Benny and co responsible for more detail on that plan (it's been a year).
They have done it before 3 0 75 but for some reason they can't or won't put any meat on the bones for the second one.
I want success as much as anyone here. I also want a healthy profitable club. If you look at most clubs websites,  you rarely see clear objectives like 3 0 75. That was one out of the box. Do we need to have more like this? I don't know for certain.

We all want a premiership.  We have the administration sorted out. We now need to improve our playing personnel and coaching staff to the point where we succeed. I really think it's that simple.  We haven't had the cattle on the park to compete. We really now need Lennon, C.Ellis, Butler, Menadue, Markov, Rioli etc to step up over the next few years. Our top end has always been good. It's our bottom end that's been poor and plentiful.  Hardwick also must take responsibility for poor decisions in selections and game day coaching. He has till the end of next season to prove he can improve himself in those areas.
On field finals success will propel our finances too.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Stalin on November 30, 2015, 05:44:00 PM
Uncle rup:

"The buck stops , with the guy that signs the cheque  "
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Diocletian on November 30, 2015, 09:42:41 PM
Great movie. John Candy R.I.P
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: the claw on December 01, 2015, 01:07:00 AM
It really would be a house of cards if one or two new faces to the board were to tear the club apart.This is basically the argument against change. If this is the case then its not worth keeping in the first place.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Stalin on December 01, 2015, 12:55:25 PM
It really would be a house of cards if one or two new faces to the board were to tear the club apart.This is basically the argument against change. If this is the case then its not worth keeping in the first place.

Weak...  :whistle
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on December 01, 2015, 05:49:35 PM
It really would be a house of cards if one or two new faces to the board were to tear the club apart.This is basically the argument against change. If this is the case then its not worth keeping in the first place.
Pretty much agree with the sentiment. However, it really is up to new guys putting there hand up to tell us exactly what they will bring to the table. The current board have already demonstrated their successful time their. They don't have to prove anything. We know they can work together and not leak to the media. We know they have turned the club's finances around. To change that chemistry you have to demonstrate why and how you will improve the board with your presence. It is healthy to have new blood of course but it has to be the right new blood.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 01, 2015, 07:06:41 PM
Joe Russo was on 3AW while I was driving home

went to "head to head" with Caro

Not going to give a summary or a opinion on what I thought of how he handle things

Have had a crap day just not in the mood

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Petey on December 01, 2015, 08:08:51 PM
can you say if it was positive or negative?
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 01, 2015, 08:14:55 PM
can you say if it was positive or negative?

I am sure his supporters will say he was great

Just like those who don't support him will say he was poor

Sometimes it isn't what you say but how you say it

Caro was Caro, you know dog with a bone , refusing to let up on something and he didn't handle it too well at times (IMO)



Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Francois Jackson on December 01, 2015, 09:11:08 PM
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/joseph-russo-and-caroline-wilson-clash-over-russos-push-for-spot-on-richmonds-board-20151201-glcvog.html

Caro and that president have obviously been colluding. My vote has been justified. Hawthorn model bring it

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on December 01, 2015, 09:34:49 PM
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/joseph-russo-and-caroline-wilson-clash-over-russos-push-for-spot-on-richmonds-board-20151201-glcvog.html

Caro and that president have obviously been colluding. My vote has been justified. Hawthorn model bring it
No need for that Angus.

Looking at it from both sides. Firstly Caro was just interrupting the guy far too much. He was making some valid points. However, he should also have gone through the process of going through the nominations committee. Doesn't matter if he felt that it would be a waste of time. He should learn to go through the right processes.  He then could not be criticised for not following rules. If the nominations committee do not feel he is a suitable candidate, he will still be able to nominate for a board position.

It would be good to have a self made man on the board.  However don't forget the last self made property developer we had who then became president - Clinton Casey.  So it doesn't always mean you get the person that is best for your club.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on December 01, 2015, 09:52:00 PM
Plenty of property developers on boards of AFL clubs. Even Hawks  :o
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 01, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/joseph-russo-and-caroline-wilson-clash-over-russos-push-for-spot-on-richmonds-board-20151201-glcvog.html

Caro and that president have obviously been colluding. My vote has been justified. Hawthorn model bring it

Did you actually listen to the interview (click on the link and listened) or have you based your judgement on what you've read in that very brief article?

As I said his supporters will say he was great

Those who don't support him will say he was poor.

I just thought he didn't handle some answers well at all. Will repeat sometimes it not what you say but how you say it. 

Reckon he helped some of the undecided make their decision after the interview. Actually know he did   And that isn't necessarily a good thing for his chances  ;D

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 01, 2015, 10:13:00 PM

Looking at it from both sides. Firstly Caro was just interrupting the guy far too much. He was making some valid points. However, he should also have gone through the process of going through the nominations committee. Doesn't matter if he felt that it would be a waste of time. He should learn to go through the right processes.  He then could not be criticised for not following rules. If the nominations committee do not feel he is a suitable candidate, he will still be able to nominate for a board position.

It would be good to have a self made man on the board.  However don't forget the last self made property developer we had who then became president - Clinton Casey.  So it doesn't always mean you get the person that is best for your club.

Although I agree Caro interrupted a lot. Mentioned before she was like a dog with a bone.   ;D

Unfortunately, Mr Russo (IMHO) didn't help his cause with the way he answered or you could argue didn't answer the question. Also, suddenly saying now that it was someone high up in the AFL who told not having a tertiary education would mean he didn't have chance, well did not sound genuine. Was actually bizarre to be honest (again IMO)

Think I posted previously, he needed to respect the process even he didn't agree with it and meet the nominations committee, he's failed to that and now is being criticised for it.

Although I agree with the idea of having maximum terms for the directors; like the Hawks, reckon it's a winner. Outside of that I don't think we learnt anything new.

And BTW we actually already have a "self made man" on the board, would think starting up your own law firm sort of equates  to starting a business from scratch

Finally, will say it one more and for the last time; sometimes it's not what you say but how you say it



Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Francois Jackson on December 01, 2015, 10:31:48 PM
well considering i posted the link while you were rambling about your hard day, its fair to assume that i listened to the audio. Wake up WP

He handled it as best he could,when he finally got a bloody word in. Some very valid points he made, again when he could get a word in.

Il think il prefer we follow the  process of the hawthorn FC before a flog like caro and that idiot of a president, who will probably extend dimwits tenure very soon.



Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: one-eyed on December 01, 2015, 11:05:15 PM
Candidate Statements

William Rex Chadwick

Rex Chadwick was appointed to the board on December 16, 2009.

Rex worked in advertising agencies for many years and was an associate director of the – then largest agency in Australia; and later Managing Director of a leading agency in Asia. His career in advertising provides a strong background in advertising and marketing. He is now Managing Director of Chadwick Merchandising Services Pty Ltd.

He is a member of The History & Tradition Committee and is chair of the Tigers In Community  Foundation Limited.

Although Rex will not claim any credit for the phenomenal growth of the club during his time on the board – It is a fact that when he was elected in 2009 – membership was just over 46,000. Today, as you know, it is in excess of 70,000 members. 

The cash situation was a diabolical $4,500,000 in debt. Today we have no debt and have shown good profit figures. 

Rex believes that these results will soon translate into a “winning finals” formula; and he wishes to complete the task he set out to do, 6 years ago.

“I believe that you hire the best people you can – in Commercial Operations, Membership, Football, Rehab & Fitness etc. If they fail to deliver, you replace them, but you don’t interfere, let them get on with the job. Some guidance is necessary from time – to – time, but undue interference is counter productive.”

“I believe we are setting up a dynasty that will produce premierships; and I am as impatient as anyone to win them now; but I can’t kick a football as well as most AFL players and although I tell our coach on a regular basis – that he should listen to my advice because I know more about football than the entire AFL community – the fact is, I don’t – and he just laughs at my bold boasts anyway.”

But what I can do is help provide good governance; worthwhile ( and I hope erudite) marketing advice and (most important of all) stability.

“I believe the best outcome for our football club is to continue with the current board who will provide a United, Conflict Free and Stable Environment that relates extremely well with all departments of our club.” 
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: one-eyed on December 01, 2015, 11:06:06 PM
Jason Dowd

Dear Tiger Member, 

I have one key message. 

If I am elected to the board, everything I do will be focused on helping Richmond win a Premiership. 

The current board has done a great job in resurrecting the club in terms of our financial position, structures around the club, strong corporate governance and introducing gender balance. They should be congratulated for all their efforts to date and I would welcome the opportunity to work with them. 

With the strong base that has been created, now is the time to be bold in our decision making and continue to demand excellence and improvement in every area of the club. 

As a board member, I am not going to interfere with the day to day running of the club, but I will demand that we push the boundaries and continue to strive for improvement.....so that the end goal of winning a premiership can be achieved. 

I am 48 Years old and have a family of 5 passionate Richmond Supporters. 

I have a background in Corporate Recovery as well as Commerce, where I helped build my company Mitchdowd into one of the leading Australian Underwear and Sleepwear brands. I understand competitive business environments and what is required to be successful (there is no more competitive environment than the AFL competition). 

I have also served on numerous boards, charities and junior football committees. I also played football at a reasonable level for many years, including training at several VFL clubs and Amateurs. 

Richmond has become one of the most progressive and well run sporting clubs in Australia and like all well run organisations, it needs to ensure there is renewal on the board to allow fresh thinking and new ideas. (Hawthorn is a great eg of this where board members have set terms).

I believe I have the business development, planning and entrepreneurial skills necessary to help ensure we continue to improve key decision making within the club and take Richmond to the next stage of success. 

I ask for your strong consideration and support. 

Go Tiges!
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: one-eyed on December 01, 2015, 11:06:47 PM
Maurice Joseph O’Shannassy

Dear Fellow Tiger Member

I am currently the Vice President of the Richmond Football Club and am seeking reelection for another term.

Over the past number of years this club has been rebuilt both on and off the field after many decades in the wilderness. It hasn’t been easy - it has been a long hard journey. The rebuilding has been a team effort.  I am proud to have been part of that team. Stability has been an important feature of the rebuilding and I believe that it is important going forward.

I have served on or chaired a number of the Board standing and ad hoc committees including Finance, Branding, Selection of senior roles (CEO and Head of Football Department), Gaming and Review of the Football Department - to name a few. Currently, I am Chair of the Risk, Compliance and Integrity Committee.

When I first joined the Board the club was near the bottom of the ladder, had just lost millions of dollars to put it further in debt and had one of the lowest spending football departments in the competition.  In short, we had few resources and no money.

We all know the solid position that we are now in - no debt (in fact cash in the bank), profitable every year I have been on the Board, one of the largest memberships in the competition, one of the best facilities in the competition (and at our traditional home) and, importantly, a well-funded football department. We have a talented and stable administration – I would say the envy of the competition.   

There is no doubt in my mind that it is a combination of all of the above factors that has enabled us to get to three finals appearances in a row with what is still a relatively young list.  It has been disappointing that we haven’t as yet been able to go further in the finals but I am confident that thestructures the Board has put in place across the whole club will enable us to take the next step.

I have seen five Premierships. I want my kids to see some and that is what drives me to want to continue to contribute. I believe that my track record on the Board and extensive experience in being one of the team that has rebuilt the club stands me in good stead to continue to be a major contributor to finishing the job and winning Premierships. 

Finally, by way of information, my background is in business. After working in the Commonwealth Treasury in Canberra, I worked in senior positions in the funds management industry in London and Asia. Eighteen years ago I returned to Australia and became Chief Executive of BlackRock Investment Management, a position I held for many years.  I am currently involved with a number of corporates in a variety of industries and, in a number of cases, I am Chairman. These companies are involved in
the Finance, Biotechnology, Social Networking and Property industries. I am also writing a book on the Global Financial System.

Go Tigers
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: one-eyed on December 01, 2015, 11:07:06 PM
Joseph Russo

As a proud and passionate Richmond supporter I am excited to advise that I have nominated for the Board at this year’s Annual General Meeting.

I acknowledge the achievements of the Board and administration to date, particularly those who contribute in an honorary capacity.

There is no doubt the club has taken massive strides off the field. We are now one of the few AFL clubs that can proudly control our own destiny, without relying on the benevolence of the AFL. The statistics around membership, attendance, merchandise sales and profit are testament to the Board’s commitment.

While I am regularly told that we are on the cusp of achieving the ultimate success – an AFL Premiership, the scoreboard does not lie. We haven’t won a final since 2001 or a flag in 35 long years. The time has come to expand on the board's ability to provide attractive incentives for currentand future players alike. We need to be able to offer players  security for life after football through education and resources and this will  add much needed depth to the club.

I am standing as a candidate because I want my kids and all Richmond members to experience what I did in 1980. I was at the MCG that day with my father – also a devoted Richmond man. I can still remember the sheer ecstasy of winning. Since 1980, three generations of Richmond supporters have been left disappointed, deprived of success year after year.

I can no longer sit by and watch the team I love continue to show incremental improvement without realising our pursuit of sustained premiership success. Until now, I have kept a low profile in my private life and business interests, including my support of the RFC. I have been a significant contributor to the Fighting Tiger Fund under the condition that the VFL development team be bought into competition a year earlier than anticipated.

I am 44 years of age and married to Elvia. Together we have two beautiful children, Sienna and Christian - all fanatical Richmond supporters.

I am the Principal and Founder of Caydon Property Group, Melbourne’s largest apartment developer.

From humble beginnings, developing townhouses in the outer northern suburb of Thomastown, my company now employs over 60 staff. I have completed over $1 Billion in developments to date, with a further 4,500 apartments in our pipeline worth in excess of $2 Billion. This includes the famous Nylex site in Cremorne that will be Melbourne’s new inspired destination at the Punt Road end.

All businesses need to innovate and evolve to lead their industry and a football club is no different. I know the sacrifice and commitment it takes to breed success – I’ve lived it. With my entrepreneurial background, I will inject fresh ideas at board level that will work as powerfully for RFC as they have in my own business.

Here’s our chance to become the most successful and biggest club in the country – a premiership will deliver that.

I ask for your vote and support to back a new game plan.

Go Tiges!

http://www-au.computershare.com/WebContent/doc.aspx?docid={3dedc598-a227-4d11-8d8d-e865bcae8bb1}&source=document
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on December 01, 2015, 11:15:03 PM
From the Herald-Sun website ...

Russo has donated significant amounts to Richmond and at one stage was seen to have the support of board member Mal Speed, whom O’Neil beat to the Richmond presidency.

O’Neil said she believed she had Speed’s support, despite rumours to the contrary, with Speed recently distancing himself from candidate Russo.

“We really want members to vote,” she said.

“This is a chance for them to cast a vote for four candidates.

“We think the board has done a good job and has been a really functioning unit.

“This has been my 10th year and five of us have been there for more than six years.

“I have heard those rumours (about Speed) too, but Mal has been a vital part of the board since he joined and I can only take on face value the way I have been treated.

“So I think they are just rumours.”

The Tigers have cleared all debt and continue to make healthy profits.

This is despite the club ramping up the money it invests into football department spending.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-to-be-offered-contract-extension-before-2016-season/news-story/64c899c567a5f57d346bfd1976da5573
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on December 01, 2015, 11:18:50 PM
From The Age website ...

O'Neal also said she wanted to maintain the make-up of the current board at the election and encouraged members to vote before Friday's deadline.

Property developer Joe Russo and Jason Dowd, who founded and runs the Mitch Dowd underwear brand, are challenging board members Rex Chadwick and vice-president Maurice O'Shannassy, whose terms were up and who are seeking re-election.

"It's been a really well-functioning board that has come a long way in the 10 years since I joined," O'Neal said. "We have renewed the board – John O'Rourke is joining the board (filling a casual vacancy from Carl Walsh's resignation), Kerry Ryan has only been there two years, Mal Speed four years and Brendon Gale will be joining the board from the AGM (as executive director), so I think we have continued to renew the board.

"The two people up for re-election have been important in the rebuilding we have undertaken and the progress we have made. Personally I would like to continue to work with those I know best.

"It's nothing against the two people who are running, but we think we have done a good job and achieved good results."

O'Neal said that while the club accepted the democratic process, the club had sought to act like a commercial board and recruit board members who filled a skills deficiency where one was identified.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-board-to-consider-new-contract-for-hardwick-early-next-year-20151201-glcuyw.html
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 02, 2015, 11:41:53 AM
What is fat Tonys thoughts on the Dimma extension ?
Title: Re: Board Election 2015
Post by: Yeahright on December 02, 2015, 11:52:11 AM
Club cancelled some BBQ as Russo was hosting it and flogged it on his campaign website
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: camboon on December 02, 2015, 06:56:10 PM
I don't know about the others but Maurice is a great bloke and has a story that is impressive
Comes from a finance background but is practical and reasonable
Joined the  club because he missed being involved  as he was back in Ireland
He is passionate about RFC and the proof of his abilities  are along with the rest of the board has turned RFC foundation to something very solid
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on December 02, 2015, 07:21:41 PM
Maurice loves the club. Spoke to him during the Casey years. If you see a car with the number plate RFC-1 that's him! Casey offered him 10 grand for them and he wouldn't sell them! True tiger.
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on December 03, 2015, 03:22:07 AM
Joseph Russo and Caroline Wilson clash over Russo's push for spot on Richmond's board

Property developer Joseph Russo and Caroline Wilson have had a fiery clash over Russo's push for a spot on Richmond's board.

Russo has been accused of attempting to undermine current president Peggy O'Neal with the move, a claim Russo fiercely denies.

He has refused to meet with the club's nominations committee.

Wilson said it was "laughable" to suggest Russo's move wasn't causing instability.

"I think you should stop commenting about Richmond, because you're too emotional," Russo said on 3AW.

AUDIO: http://www.3aw.com.au/news/joseph-russo-and-caroline-wilson-clash-over-russos-push-for-spot-on-richmonds-board-20151201-glcvog.html

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: Stalin on December 03, 2015, 08:59:22 AM
Shut up Caro

Stable as a stagnate pond.
Title: Richmond members happy with Peggy O’Neal-led board, Russo fails to win seat (HS)
Post by: one-eyed on December 04, 2015, 08:13:34 PM
Richmond members happy with Peggy O’Neal-led board, property developer Joe Russo fails to win seat

Michael Warner
Herald Sun
28 minutes ago


WEALTHY property developer Joe Russo has failed to win a seat on the Richmond board.

Tigers members on Friday night reinstated directors Rex Chadwick and Maurice O’Shannassy in a strong endorsement of Peggy O’Neal’s presidency.

Russo, a major Richmond benefactor, had promised to “instill the fresh ideas we require to win a premiership”.

But club members indicated they were satisfied with the direction of the O’Neal-led administration.

Challenger Jason Dowd was also overlooked.

“The Richmond board of directors looks forward to continuing to serve our members and fans, and driving the club forward,” O’Neal said on Friday night.

Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale and highly-respected businessman John O’Rourke were added to the board earlier this month.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-members-happy-with-peggy-onealled-board-property-developer-joe-russo-fails-to-win-seat/news-story/e73c5c320dd6e9be6994f484d6679415
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 04, 2015, 09:06:00 PM
Would be interesting to know the numbers, not how many votes each candidate got but how many members actually voted
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 04, 2015, 09:13:59 PM
Here's the numbers. Disappointing they are so low

70k+ members and not even 10% bothered to vote.

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O’Shannassy and Chadwick re-elected to Richmond board
richmondfc.com.au 
December 4, 2015 7:30 PM

Richmond directors Maurice O'Shannassy and Rex Chadwick have been re-elected to the board.

The final vote order was Maurice O’Shannassy (3876), Rex Chadwick (3617), Joseph Russo (1153) and Jason Dowd (796).

Last month, Richmond added John O’Rourke, founder and chairman of international property and infrastructure company, Plenary Group, to the board.

And, Tigers’ CEO Brendon Gale was recently added as an executive director.

“I would like to thank all of our members who voted in the board election,” said Richmond president Peggy O’Neal.

“The Richmond board of directors looks forward to continuing to serve our members and fans, and driving the Club forward.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-12-04/oshannassy-and-chadwick-reinstated-to-richmond-board
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: rogerd3 on December 04, 2015, 09:18:20 PM
Apathetic lot really.

But are these the same people that jump on the new hobby horse
when it states it donated 1M to the club.

Personally sod off.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Francois Jackson on December 04, 2015, 09:24:04 PM
lol

what did you expect 70% to vote? There here may be 70,000 members but most dont give a stuff what happens behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Jonesracing82 on December 04, 2015, 09:27:44 PM
Would be interesting to know the numbers, not how many votes each candidate got but how many members actually voted
i am curious on all the above
Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: rogerd3 on December 04, 2015, 09:28:40 PM
As I wanted to finalise my vote this weekend I decided in fairness to venture over to Joe Russo's website and see if there was anything there that tells me more than what the media has reported.

What caught my eye was that indeed Mr Russo does say that without JDF revenue the club would have made a loss. He goes as far as to say that JDF revenue should NOT be included in the clubs results see: http://anewgameplan.com.au

As I posted last night the club is legal required to include all JDF revenue in its results. Failure to do so is a clear breach of accounting standards and corporation law on this country. To suggest they shouldn't is foolish

Also as I posted the deed for the operation of the JDF isvery very clear. Funds can only be used improving player facilities. All money is kept in a separate bank account which it is as shown in this year's financial report and every other fin report issued since the JDFs inception

It is disappointing that before making the statement he has, Mr Russo didn't check and get clarity on how the JDF works and the legal requirements that need to be followed.

And before anyone jumps on me accusing me of whacking for the sake of it and the club won't  answer his questions. To get this info he doesn't need the detail from the club, he just needs to ask any accountant and considering he runs his own business I reckon it is a fair bet he has one of his own 



"Without donations"?  :huh I would suggest going by what I've read that is simply untrue. Take away any line of revenue you can say the club wouldnt have made a profit.

If Mr Russo is referring to contributions made to the FTF or the Jack Dyer Foundation, then I suggest he take a lesson in accounting standards and corporation law and understand what a business is required to do with regard to revenue they control. One hopes he is not "scare mongering" regarding the off field

Quote

As for the JDF, same rules apply in that in that the club ultimately controls the funds so they are bound by law to include it as part of its revenue and profit. The difference between the JDF and the FTF is that there is special deed arrangement that states what the funds must be used for. Yes all funds received are deemed "donations" but there's is nothing underhanded here; club is following their legal obligations. To suggest otherwise is well.... I'll leave it at that 



Anyways... Time to vote  ;D
 

So he does state that...mmmm
I didn't actually state he " was running around at stating this"

Title: Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
Post by: rogerd3 on December 04, 2015, 09:34:34 PM
you stuffing liar. he said without the donations we would have made a loss

Exactly what I said Russo said without FTF or JDF funds we would have made a loss..

But this is not right.

Oh I wasn't "running around saying" it by the way...

And don't call me a liar.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 04, 2015, 09:38:38 PM
lol

what did you expect 70% to vote? There here may be 70,000 members but most dont give a stuff what happens behind the scenes.

I would have thought that at least 7k-10k would have voted

People get on social media complain about things, whack the president, whack the club all the time saying they want change and want to be heard. they get the opportunity to have a say and they don't take it



Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Stalin on December 04, 2015, 10:03:58 PM
 - Mark Twain — 'If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.'
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: one-eyed on December 04, 2015, 10:20:31 PM
Richmond directors Maurice O'Shannassy and Rex Chadwick have been re-elected to the board.

The final vote order was

Maurice O’Shannassy  3876
Rex Chadwick            3617
Joseph Russo            1153
Jason Dowd                796

Total votes:             9,442

Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-12-04/oshannassy-and-chadwick-reinstated-to-richmond-board

Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: crannyvegas on December 05, 2015, 08:12:18 AM
lol

what did you expect 70% to vote? There here may be 70,000 members but most dont give a stuff what happens behind the scenes.

I would have thought that at least 7k-10k would have voted

People get on social media complain about things, whack the president, whack the club all the time saying they want change and want to be heard. they get the opportunity to have a say and they don't take it

I think you can whack people and not want them ousted. The lack of votes is a probably a tick of approval for the current board. If the club was in an awful financial position or football department wise, more would have got involved.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on December 05, 2015, 09:15:27 AM
It's been rigged
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on December 05, 2015, 10:17:22 AM
It's been rigged
I cannot understand when people make comments like this without ANY evidence. Either show us the evidence to substantiate your comments or don't post such comments that undermine our club.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: taztiger4 on December 05, 2015, 10:34:11 AM
It's been rigged

Yep, I am sure Computershare can be easily bought to rig an election
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Gigantor on December 05, 2015, 10:40:28 AM
once again the democratic process has had its say...People need to respect this
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Petey on December 05, 2015, 11:19:23 AM
taztiger, ease up bro.  think he was just joking
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Diocletian on December 05, 2015, 11:31:05 AM
Surprise, surprise, Caro's fear campaign paid off...
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: taztiger4 on December 05, 2015, 11:36:04 AM
Surprise, surprise, Caro's fear campaign paid off...

Some who voted would not have read Caro's article
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Stalin on December 05, 2015, 11:59:10 AM
Yeah all four of them
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: taztiger4 on December 05, 2015, 12:01:37 PM
Yeah all four of them

my cook & I are 2 of them
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Francois Jackson on December 05, 2015, 02:09:47 PM
lol

what did you expect 70% to vote? There here may be 70,000 members but most dont give a stuff what happens behind the scenes.

I would have thought that at least 7k-10k would have voted

People get on social media complain about things, whack the president, whack the club all the time saying they want change and want to be heard. they get the opportunity to have a say and they don't take it

I think you can whack people and not want them ousted. The lack of votes is a probably a tick of approval for the current board. If the club was in an awful financial position or football department wise, more would have got involved.

Sure okay that must be it
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Francois Jackson on December 05, 2015, 02:10:17 PM
lol

what did you expect 70% to vote? There here may be 70,000 members but most dont give a stuff what happens behind the scenes.

I would have thought that at least 7k-10k would have voted

People get on social media complain about things, whack the president, whack the club all the time saying they want change and want to be heard. they get the opportunity to have a say and they don't take it

Very true 
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on December 05, 2015, 03:23:25 PM
It's been rigged
I cannot understand when people make comments like this without ANY evidence. Either show us the evidence to substantiate your comments or don't post such comments that undermine our club.

You're probably behind it Caro
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Petey on December 05, 2015, 05:57:59 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on December 05, 2015, 06:46:30 PM
It's been rigged
I cannot understand when people make comments like this without ANY evidence. Either show us the evidence to substantiate your comments or don't post such comments that undermine our club.

You're probably behind it Caro
Grow up.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Petey on December 05, 2015, 07:39:06 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Penelope on December 05, 2015, 11:09:14 PM
lol

what did you expect 70% to vote? There here may be 70,000 members but most dont give a stuff what happens behind the scenes.

I would have thought that at least 7k-10k would have voted

People get on social media complain about things, whack the president, whack the club all the time saying they want change and want to be heard. they get the opportunity to have a say and they don't take it
what sort of numbers have got on social media and whackety whacked?

100?
1000?
5000?
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Francois Jackson on December 06, 2015, 07:37:31 AM
Plenty more around September

Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Muscles on December 06, 2015, 10:23:00 AM
Hey, WP, did anything else of note happen at the AGM?
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 06, 2015, 01:16:50 PM
Hey, WP, did anything else of note happen at the AGM?

AGM hasn't happened yet

It's on this coming Wednesday (9th) evening
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Muscles on December 06, 2015, 03:00:09 PM
Hey, WP, did anything else of note happen at the AGM?

AGM hasn't happened yet

It's on this coming Wednesday (9th) evening

Oopsie.  Thanks, WP.  I should pay more attention to the emails from the club.  Cheers.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Stalin on December 06, 2015, 04:56:27 PM
It's been rigged
I cannot understand when people make comments like this without ANY evidence. Either show us the evidence to substantiate your comments or don't post such comments that undermine our club.

You're probably behind it Caro
Grow up.



For he sake of media pressure? Stability perhaps?
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on December 06, 2015, 05:32:50 PM
It's been rigged
I cannot understand when people make comments like this without ANY evidence. Either show us the evidence to substantiate your comments or don't post such comments that undermine our club.

You're probably behind it Caro
Grow up.

Whys that ?

For he sake of media pressure? Stability perhaps?
You obviously cannot follow the conversation. HRT stated that the election had been rigged. This casts a nasty dispersion on our beloved club. I told her/him that statements like that should not be made without evidence. She/he then childishly called me Caro to which said that they should grow up. So why are you asking about media pressure and stability when it has nothing to do with the conversation??????
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on December 07, 2015, 09:19:14 AM
It looks like we may have fortuitously avoided scandal.....

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/nylex-site-developers-previous-work-under-investigation-by-building-authority-20151206-glgn6r.html#ixzz3tYdPfhJg
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Owl on December 07, 2015, 10:21:18 AM
Brings fresh ideas lol
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Francois Jackson on December 07, 2015, 10:35:10 AM
yeah what a scandal. Grocon wall collapse heights aye?

Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on December 07, 2015, 02:51:05 PM
yeah what a scandal. Grocon wall collapse heights aye?
I actually do not think there is much in it but the media would beat it up 100x if he was a Richmond board member. Do not need that publicity, whether you agree or not.
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 30, 2016, 07:22:54 PM
Phew dodged a bullett with Russo. Lucky..

Carry on Peggy Sue with the fine job your board is doing
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on July 30, 2016, 10:03:47 PM
Watch this space
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Diocletian on July 30, 2016, 10:32:26 PM
So you keep saying.....or is this just your latest troll shtick?
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on July 30, 2016, 11:17:56 PM
So you keep saying.....or is this just your latest troll shtick?

Ah no
Benny Gale wants the soon to be vacant MCC job
Malcolm Speed will take over from Peggy
And Hardwick won't coach in 2017
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 31, 2016, 01:10:33 AM
So you keep saying.....or is this just your latest troll shtick?

Ah no
Benny Gale wants the soon to be vacant MCC job
Malcolm Speed will take over from Peggy
And Hardwick won't coach in 2017
Why does he want the MCC job?
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 31, 2016, 01:55:23 AM
So you keep saying.....or is this just your latest troll shtick?

Ah no
Benny Gale wants the soon to be vacant MCC job
Malcolm Speed will take over from Peggy
And Hardwick won't coach in 2017
Why does he want the MCC job?
It needs to pay more than the $700K that he is being paid by the RFC. :shh
Title: Re: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 31, 2016, 08:44:41 AM
Quote from: Jackstar 1960 link=topic=23209.msg563927#msg563927 date=1469884676
Benny Gale wants the soon to be vacant MCC job

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I want that job too doesn't mean I'm going to get it

What he wants and what he's gonna get are not necessarily the same

And ho by some chance he gets that gig, speaks volumes of his ego, he got us into the mess shouod have the guts to fix it rather than running away