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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 15, 2005, 03:13:48 AM
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Just putting the order here for reference:
Pick No. - Club - Player Name - Club From - DOB - Height - Weight
Priority Pick
1. Carlton - Marc Murphy OAKLEIGH CHARGERS 19-07-1987 179.1 74.7
2. Collingwood - Dale Thomas GIPPSLAND POWER 21-06-1987 182.8 75.2
3. Hawthorn - Xavier Ellis GIPPSLAND POWER 28-02-1988 186.3 71.7
Round 1
4. Carlton - Joshua Kennedy EAST FREMANTLE 25-08-1987 195.1 92.3
5. Collingwood - Scott Pendlebury GIPPSLAND POWER 07-01-1988 189.8 81.4
6. Hawthorn - Beau Dowler OAKLEIGH CHARGERS 16-12-1987 194.6 84
7. Essendon - Patrick Ryder EAST FREMANTLE 14-03-1988 195.7 85.6
8. Richmond - Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls EAST PERTH 09-02-1988 188.1 75.2
9. Brisbane - Mitchell Clark EAST FREMANTLE 19-10-1987 198.1 91.3
10. Fremantle - Marcus Drum MURRAY BUSHRANGERS 01-05-1987 189.7 79.7
11. Western Bull. - Shaun Higgins GEELONG FALCONS 04-03-1988 183.5 78.8
12. Melbourne - Nathan Jones DANDENONG STINGRAYS 20-01-1988 178.7 84.5
13. West Coast - Shannon Hurn CENTRAL DISTRICTS 04-09-1987 188 92
14. Hawthorn - Grant Birchall TASSIE MARINERS 28-01-1988 191.9 84.4
15. Geelong - Travis Varcoe CENTRAL DISTRICTS 10-04-1988 179.1 70.5
16. Adelaide - Richard Douglas CALDER CANNONS 06-02-1987 180 68.1
17. Adelaide - Darren Pfeiffer NORWOOD 28-09-1987 182.7 78.9
18. Hawthorn - Max Bailey WEST PERTH 23-10-1986 205.8 93
19. Essendon - Courtenay Dempsey MORNINGSIDE 28-08-1987 184.3 68
Round 2
20. Carlton - Paul Bower PEEL THUNDER 09-01-1988 192.3 87
21. Collingwood - Danny Stanley GEELONG FALCONS 18-02-1988 186.2 89.5
22. Hawthorn - Beau Muston MURRAY BUSHRANGERS 01-03-1987 189 78.8
23. Collingwood - Ryan Cook DANDENONG STINGRAYS 16-02-1988 185.9 77.5
24. Richmond - Cleve Hughes NORWOOD 15-01-1987 191.9 84.4
25. Brisbane - Wayde Mills SOUTHPORT 29-08-1987 195.1 87.9
26. Fremantle - Garrick Ibbotson EAST FREMANTLE 15-03-1988 186.5 77.9
27. Western Bull. - Dylan Addison ST GEORGE 07-10-1987 185.5 73
28. Kangaroos - Matt Riggio PEEL THUNDER 14-03-1988 187.1 83
29. West Coast - Benjamin McKinley NORTHERN KNIGHTS 04-03-1987 183.9 81.7
30. Port Adelaide - Nick Lower NORWOOD 23-06-1987 186.6 83.8
31. Geelong - Trent West GIPPSLAND POWER 17-10-1987 198.2 89.8
32. Adelaide - Bernie Vince WOODVILLE WEST TORRENS 02-10-1985
33. St Kilda - Sam Gilbert SOUTHPORT 19-08-1986 193.7 81.8
34. West Coast - Matthew Spangher EASTERN RANGES 23-04-1987 192.9 83.3
35. Geelong - Stephen Owen NORTH BALLARAT REBELS 19-07-1987 187.8 80.5
Round 3
36. Carlton - Jake Edwards WESTERN JETS 06-01-1988 191.7 82.3
37. Collingwood - John Anthony NORTHERN KNIGHTS 19-01-1988 191.1 85.4
38. Hawthorn - Travis Tuck DANDENONG STINGRAYS 07-09-1987 187.5 79.1
39. Essendon - Jay Neagle GIPPSLAND POWER 17-01-1988
40. Richmond - Travis Casserly SWAN DISTRICTS 20-05-1987 186.5 76.2
41. Brisbane - Ryan Hooper IPSWICH 09-01-1988 176.8 70.8
42. Fremantle - Robert Warnock SANDRINGHAM DRAGONS 19-01-1987 204.5 80
43. Kangaroos - Andrew Swallow EAST FREMANTLE 02-06-1987 183 76.5
44. Port Adelaide - Alipate Carlile MURRAY BUSHRANGERS 30-04-1987 190.9 92.9
45. Kangaroos - Travis Baird BRISBANE LIONS 25-07-1986
46. Western Bull. - Kasey Green WEST COAST EAGLES 10-09-1979
47. Geelong - Ryan Gamble GLENELG 23-09-1987 180 72
48. Adelaide - Alan Obst CENTRAL DISTRICTS 19-05-1987 192.7 81.8
49. St Kilda - Michael Rix COBURG 08-01-1981
50. Essendon - Samuel Lonergan TASSIE MARINERS 26-03-1987 181 79.5
Round 4
51. Sydney - Matthew Laidlaw OAKLEIGH CHARGERS 09-02-1987 185.6 82.5
52. Collingwood - PASS
53. Melbourne - Simon Buckley SANDRINGHAM DRAGONS 18-04-1987 189.1 80.9
54. Sydney - Kristin Thornton PEEL THUNDER 05-03-1988 183.7 72.2
55. Western Bull. - Brett Montgomery PORT ADELAIDE 01-06-1973
56. Brisbane - Joel Patfull PORT ADELAIDE ROOKIE 07-12-1984
57. Western Bull. - Michael West REDLANDS 16-02-1987 195.1 85.6
58. Port Adelaide - Hugh Minson NORWOOD 09-03-1988 202.3 82.65
59. Sydney - Ryan Brabazon Claremont (WAFL) 26-12-1986 180.6 70.4
60. Melbourne - Clint Bartram GEELONG FALCONS 16-02-1988 180.7 73.2
61. Geelong - Mathew Stokes WOODVILLE WEST TORRENS 22-11-1984
62. Adelaide - PASS
63. St Kilda - Phillip Raymond GLENELG 24-06-1987 185.6 69.25
Round 5
64. Carlton - PASS
65. Hawthorn - PASS
66. Essendon - Austin Lucy SUNCOAST LIONS 04-09-1987 192.3 89.7
67. Richmond - PASS
68. Melbourne - Heath Neville TASSIE MARINERS 02-02-1988 184.1 82.5
69. Kangaroos - Timothy Hutchison PORT ADELAIDE MAGPIES 18-02-1988
70. Port Adelaide - Jonathan Giles CENTRAL DISTRICTS 08-01-1988
71. St Kilda - Justin Sweeney TYABB 25-12-1987
Round 6
72. Essendon - PASS
73. Kangaroos - PASS
74. Port Adelaide - PASS
75. St Kilda - PASS
Round 7
76. Essendon - PASS
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Picks available to each club:
Adelaide - 5
Brisbane - 4
Carlton - 5
Collingwood - 6
Essendon - 7 (including F/S Jay Neagle)
Fremantle - 3
Geelong - 5
Hawthorn - 7 (including F/S Travis Tuck)
Kangaroos - 5
Melbourne - 4
Port Adelaide - 5
Richmond - 4
St Kilda - 5
Sydney - 3
West Coast - 3
W.Bulldogs - 5
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Good work! :thumbsup
Should the forum do our own mock draft with the users picking the picks and see how accurate we all are? :lol
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Good work! :thumbsup
Should the forum do our own mock draft with the users picking the picks and see how accurate we all are? :lol
Going out on a limb lol.
1. Carlton - Marc Murphy
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Going out on a limb lol.
1. Carlton - Marc Murphy
I can do better than that....................
Pick 72 - PASS
:rollin :rollin
I also predict that player PASS will get quite a mention late in the draft :thumbsup
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Going out on a limb lol.
1. Carlton - Marc Murphy
I can do better than that....................
Pick 72 - PASS
:rollin :rollin
I also predict that player PASS will get quite a mention late in the draft :thumbsup
Pick 8 - Josh Kennedy! :lol
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Pick 8 - Josh Kennedy! :lol
LOL we wish ;D
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next year is the draft everyone will be getting excited over. with our poor draw, i expect an early selection next year and hopefully with some good trading we can get a 2nd early pick.
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The National Draft takes place at 10am this Saturday, November 26.
The draft will be broadcast live on SEN (http://www.sen.com.au) (1116 AM on the radio) from 9am as well as there being a live webcast on the AFL website.
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As far as internet goes, forget out streaming SEN, it is impossible on draft day.
The AFL streaming was pretty good last year, but then again im on cable.
I wish it was shown live on tv, i mean has anyone ever seen an NBA draft?
It's like a massive shindig and you get to see plenty of highlights of the players, not to mention proper interviews with them!
In comparison the AFL draft is in a little hall with a bunch of tables and calling out of names! :banghead
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They use to show the draft on FTA tellie but once pay tv came along it was moved to there. Yeah the Europeans and Americans put on a massive show with these sorts of things. I bet when the World Cup draw is done next month, FIFA will have the flashing lights, the powerful orchestral music and most of the invitees will be past greats, when all it is is a guy spinning plastic balls with the names of countries inside them in a plastic sphere and pulling one out at a time like he's at the local RSL bingo.
I hope the SEN coverage is better than last year. The first round wasn't too bad but for the rest of it half the time they talked over the call about kids already chosen and you missed hearing selections ::).
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It couldn't of been as bad as Kevin Sheehan blowing his load over and over again over the top 10 picks all through the rest of the draft!
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Pretty much. The SEN guys just gave up following the draft about half way through. They were chatting away while in the background you could hear the call of names still going on.
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Mark Harvey said on SEN the bombers will go after a midfielder. Hopefully in 10-15 mins that's right as it's good for us.
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Oakley-Nicholls - was hoping for Clark.
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Wallace creams his pants as he gets uber, uber athletic Oakley-Nicholls.
SEN saying that its a big reach!
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Looks like Essendon were bluffing or wanted one of the 4 midfielders in the top 6.
Funny blunder by AFL.com.au - they mucked it up and had Collingwood taking Cameron Miller (pick 74 in Burgan's phantom draft) at pick 2. I was thinking good old Balmy, Malthouse and Judkins riding the pies into the ground :rollin
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Cleve Hughes at 24!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............................
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So we get a tall but not one of the main four when we could have got Clark :-\
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Casserley at 40 without any hesitation, the late mail was right!
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40. Travis Casserley
On the money Ramps.
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MT, Hughes is a tall!
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HOLY MICHAEL RIX TO ST KILDA AT 49!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats interesting.............
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Sure was a surprise. Moreso Rix going to the Saints. Good luck to him.
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67. Pass
Off to the PSD.
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Saints also took Justin "Pass the bong" Sweeney! :o
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Im pleased the late mail was proven correct. pleased to oblige. As for our effort...usually i bag the club...but today im a bit unsure if i should do that. I like Hughes...he was a good get at 24. I rated him a band 1 player...I also rated Oakley Nichols a band 1 player...in effect we ended up with 2 first rounders....but poo I hope Mitch Clark doesnt come back to bite us on the arse. Anyway Casserley was poor in the carnival...but info has it that he'll be ok...a good hard running quick midfielder...who runs lines...exactly a Wallace type. Im amazed we got Hughes...I reckon if he works hard...he'll be terrific.
Today we moved one step closer to a Premiership. A small step...but atleast and unlike other drafts...we didnt stuff up. Cant say the same about the Pies. Esp with Thomas...I did however rate Pendlebury and I think he'll be ok.
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As for our effort...usually i bag the club...but today im a bit unsure if i should do that.
That's the main thing to come out of today. This draft wasn't rated highly. There are many unknowns in terms of which kids will make it unlike last year. If at least two out of the three go on to play 100-150+ games then we'll be laughing.
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Caro's blowing Hawthorn's trumpet on 3aw. She even said Wallace was envious and that some recruiter told her they'll win 4 flags in a row in 6 years! That's what they said about the Saints 5 years ago ::).
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Atleast we didn't take any of those injury guys, now i can see our new draft picks from this year and some from last year in the Wiz Cup! ;D
*Jumps up and down in excitement*
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Caro's blowing Hawthorn's trumpet on 3aw. She even said Wallace was envious and that some recruiter told her they'll win 4 flags in a row in 6 years! That's what they said about the Saints 5 years ago ::).
i heard clarkos press conference, this is what i make of all the bs that comes out of his hawks mouth.
1/ he is so unsure about his ability to coach that he is just going 4 youth and draft picks in hope they come good!
2/ he is so brainwashed and thinks all the young kids will become top grade chaps
3/ he is an insecure coach and will always have the excuse " we are playing the kids , our futureis bright"
pigs arse , he is a tosser!
about us , im glad we picked who we got, clrke will be a risk, we dont really know how the menigic virus he has will affect him, they say he will recover, but who knows, and the 3 kids we have are just as good as any other, im getting excited over nicholls , he lids bling and meyer will be a force
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David King will be on 3aw after 4pm chatting about our picks.
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Caro's blowing Hawthorn's trumpet on 3aw. She even said Wallace was envious and that some recruiter told her they'll win 4 flags in a row in 6 years! That's what they said about the Saints 5 years ago ::).
i heard clarkos press conference, this is what i make of all the bs that comes out of his hawks mouth.
1/ he is so unsure about his ability to coach that he is just going 4 youth and draft picks in hope they come good!
2/ he is so brainwashed and thinks all the young kids will become top grade chaps
3/ he is an insecure coach and will always have the excuse " we are playing the kids , our futureis bright"
pigs behind , he is a tosser!
about us , im glad we picked who we got, clrke will be a risk, we dont really know how the menigic virus he has will affect him, they say he will recover, but who knows, and the 3 kids we have are just as good as any other, im getting excited over nicholls , he lids bling and meyer will be a force
The Hawks say they are going to be patient but for how long especially with Jeff now prez. Their fanatical youth policy means they are rebuilding from scratch without basically an experienced core. Apart from Hodge, Mitchell and a couple of others (Crawford and Everitt will retire soon), their recruiting prior to last year had been worse than ours and that's saying something. At least we added some quality mid-20yo experience with Sugar, Browny and Simmo along with the kids. Plus we're a draft ahead of them.
So the Hawks need to strike A-grade gold with nearly every kid and take risks such as Dowler and Muston otherwise they are stuffed anyway IMO. I'm sooooo glad the Tiges aren't taking this all or nothing approach. If the Hawks fail it could set them back another 10 years; not to mention the financial cost. Without a wealthy mysterious benefactor and Ian Dicker pumping in substancial $$$ to balance the books, Hawthorn would have lost over a $1 million dollar this year from their football club operations.
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If Hawthorn can get this group of draftees up...then imho...theyre probably 18 months ahead of us. Reason is...Our redevelopment started with the Gilmour draft. For us to catch up...we need to get rid of the last 8 or 9 players on our list who arent up to it next year and take another large group of kids. In fact this is what must happen if we are serious. I would also think that next year 1 or 2 players may be taken to the trade table that none of us expect in order to improve our draft position.
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Now for the analysis...
1:46:18 PM Sun 27 November, 2005
Matt Burgan
afl.com.au
RICHMOND
Unlike last year, when Richmond was one of the driving forces in the draft, it took just three selections, opting to save one up its sleeve for the pre-season meeting. Further pace into the midfield became the order of the day, when it chose Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls and Travis Casserley. The duo adds to an emerging midfield at Punt Rd. Cleve Hughes was somewhat of a steal as he was expected to be a 10 to 20 draft selection. The Tigers were delighted to snatch the key forward. From limited selections, Richmond will be more than satisfied with these choices and they are a nice addition to a fine draft last year.
8 - Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls (East Perth)
24 - Cleve Hughes (Norwood)
40 - Travis Casserley (Swan Districts)
67 - Pass
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=238589
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If Hawthorn can get this group of draftees up...then imho...theyre probably 18 months ahead of us. Reason is...Our redevelopment started with the Gilmour draft. For us to catch up...we need to get rid of the last 8 or 9 players on our list who arent up to it next year and take another large group of kids. In fact this is what must happen if we are serious. I would also think that next year 1 or 2 players may be taken to the trade table that none of us expect in order to improve our draft position.
Next year's highly rated draft will be a good time for one final clean-out. I reckon you are right RT about us taking 1-2 unexpected players to the draft table. Clubs are going to be reluctant moreso next year to give up first round picks. You'll need to offer good value.
As for the Hawks, their recruiting under Peter Schwab was on par with ours under Spud b/w 2000-2002 IMO which is saying something. Take away Hodge, Mitchell, Everitt and Williams and its an ordinary lot. Plus Everitt will be retiring soon. So I don't believe they had a head start on us prior to 2003.
IMO we began our clean out a year earlier than Hawthorn so I had us ahead of them before this draft. We also have a more solid core to build around as we haven't gone ultra-youth so we don't need to throw our young guys to the wolves. Our cubs have to earn a game.
Hawks recruiting (still on list)
2004 - Roughead, Franklin, Lewis, Thomas Murphy, Matthew Little, Simon Taylor, Thurgood, Clinton Young (8)
2003 - Trent Croad, Danny Jacobs, Harry Miller, Zac Dawson, Matthew Ball, Brad Sewell (6)
2002 - Peter Everitt, Luke Brennan, Tim Boyle (3)
2001 - Luke Hodge, Sam Mitchell, Rick Ladson, Campbell Brown, Robert Campbell, Michael Osborne (6)
2000 - Nick Ries, Mark Williams (2)
Tiges recruiting (still on list)
2004 - Simmonds, Knobel, Deledio, Tambling, Meyer, Pattison, Polo, McGuane, Limbach, Thursfield (10)
2003 - Browny, Tuck, Roach, Jackson, Raines, Hartigan, Foley (7)
2002 - Johnson, Schulz, Moore (3)
2001 - Stafford, Rodan (2)
2000 - Pettifer, Coughlan, Krakouer, Hyde, Newman (5)
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i feel we are behind now because I feel Krakouer and Hyde are average squad players, Stafford is about to retire and Rodan I feel is overated by our supporters, Moore has potential but needs to pull the finger out this year, Roach, Jackson and Raines all have potential...but same as more at the moment...I have my doubts about Polo...although I think he could be a good run with player...and I have some serious serious doubts about Limbach andMcGuane being good long term players. My brother...played golf the weekend before last...with a former RFC premiership player...who i rate as someone who knows good kids when he sees them...unfortunately his assessment was that atleast half of the youngsters we took in Gilmour draft wont make it...(thats the Roach, Jackson, Raines draft). Thats why i feel we are behind. We need one more cleanout, 1 more bottom finish and some heavy handed trading. And finally we will be on our way.
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Hyde is underrated, Wallace turned him into EXACTLY the type of run and carry player he wants, then he smashed his skull and was just never the same player, hopefully he regaisn his early 2005 form.
Moore is unathletic, can't kick, still skinny at about 22 years old and an awkward height, nuff said.
Rodan is a BIG watch for 2006, will thrive under Wallace's gameplan.
Polo, Limbach, McGuane are all unknown qualities.
We do need one more cleanout, players like Tiv, Chaff, Staff, Moore and Krakeour should be pushed along (Krakeour is tradeable though!).
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Agree Ramps that probably half the guys we took in the 2003 draft won't make it but that doesn't concern me if the other half come through. Tuck picked up in the draft at 76 or whatever is already there so it'll be up to the likes of Jackson, Raines and Hartigan to join him as regulars. 2006 is a big year for those three. Chuck Sarge in there as well.
It won't surprise me if Roach and Moore are gone this time next year. I have question marks over Foley (size) and Rodan (past form).
I still don't understand how we kicked backside in the 2000 (Pettifer,Cogs,Krak,Hyde,Newman) draft under Beck and Spud given we screwed up in the 2 drafts either side of it but we did. This time last year Pettifer and Hyde were on the scrap-heap but now look part of our future under Wallace. Hyde will never be a superstar but if he's in our bottom 6 of our 22 and 10-12th in our midfield rotation then we won't be doing too badly. Krakouer cops alot and he is inconsistent but he has improved each and every year.
Apart from Hodge, Mitchell and Mark Williams, I just don't rate any of the other Hawks kids they picked up b/w 2000-2003. I even wouldn't be surprised if a vast number of them are delisted within the next year or two. Hawthorn picked up more kids in that period but not quality ones.