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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Jackstar 1960 on February 22, 2016, 08:15:14 PM
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Reece McKenzie
Anyone seen him ?
Mail about he is giving it away
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Wtf?
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:huh
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Reece McKenzie
Anyone seen him ?
Mail about he is giving it away
Heard he has a minor injury & suffering from depression
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I hope he is ok, regardless of his diagnosis.
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Pretty much has one foot out the door. Gone.
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More things change the more they stay the same :banghead
Dont think it's really appropriate to be speculating on what might or might not be the issue here.
We dont hear or see Jack for months and he comes back with this sort of speculation to stir things up
Then others have to jump in and throw in more fuel on the fire
Very poor indeed >:(
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there were well known issues when we drafted him. probably not as simple as just depression
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More things change the more they stay the same :banghead
Dont think it's really appropriate to be speculating on what might or might not be the issue here.
We dont hear or see Jack for months and he comes back with this sort of speculation to stir things up
Then others have to jump in and throw in more fuel on the fire
Very poor indeed >:(
I've had similar mail for a few weeks and made reference to it here just the other day. His issues are hardly a secret and have been well known since we drafted him - one of the main reasons a kid of his ability slid to 77 in the draft.
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More things change the more they stay the same :banghead
Dont think it's really appropriate to be speculating on what might or might not be the issue here.
We dont hear or see Jack for months and he comes back with this sort of speculation to stir things up
Then others have to jump in and throw in more fuel on the fire
Very poor indeed >:(
Didn't sound like Jackstar to me. Troll?
:thumbsdown
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Yep that was my mail too, and the ability of a top 10er but had issues :shh
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More things change the more they stay the same :banghead
Dont think it's really appropriate to be speculating on what might or might not be the issue here.
We dont hear or see Jack for months and he comes back with this sort of speculation to stir things up
Then others have to jump in and throw in more fuel on the fire
Very poor indeed >:(
I've had similar mail for a few weeks and made reference to it here just the other day. His issues are hardly a secret and have been well known since we drafted him - one of the main reasons a kid of his ability slid to 77 in the draft.
had nothing to do with his draft pos.
more to do with the fact he's got deficiencies. barely kicked goals against decent underage sides
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Kicked 16 in a schoolboy game once and spent a deal of time in the ruck :shh
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More things change the more they stay the same :banghead
Dont think it's really appropriate to be speculating on what might or might not be the issue here.
We dont hear or see Jack for months and he comes back with this sort of speculation to stir things up
Then others have to jump in and throw in more fuel on the fire
Very poor indeed >:(
I've had similar mail for a few weeks and made reference to it here just the other day. His issues are hardly a secret and have been well known since we drafted him - one of the main reasons a kid of his ability slid to 77 in the draft.
had nothing to do with his draft pos.
more to do with the fact he's got deficiencies. barely kicked goals against decent underage sides
The concern about him being a flat track bully was minor. 197 cm /105 kg kids with explosive speed and 3.5 goal a game average don't slip to the 5th round just because of unflattering splits.
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More things change the more they stay the same :banghead
Dont think it's really appropriate to be speculating on what might or might not be the issue here.
We dont hear or see Jack for months and he comes back with this sort of speculation to stir things up
Then others have to jump in and throw in more fuel on the fire
Very poor indeed >:(
Just asking the question
Mail was from another club who say he has gone
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Mail was from another club who say he has gone
All the more reason not to make an issue of it I thought. Our Club clearly has nothing to say
If our Club thinks it needs to say something it will.
I got whacked around the ears during "chopstick gate" with comments that I wasn't supprting one of our own because I called his actions stupid. Alot of folks suggested we should always support our own no matter what the circumstances....
Don't think this sort of innuendo is "supporting our own"
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Big Footy Richmond poster "sregit" reckons he was back at Punt Road running laps today. Can anyone confirm this?
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Yeah he was
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Yeah I saw his huge head floating around. Was actually having a good laugh with one of the boys at one stage which is a good sign.
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Good to hear...cheers....
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Good news.
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Big Footy Richmond poster "sregit" reckons he was back at Punt Road running laps today. Can anyone confirm this?
He was actually at the club back in early March at team photo day ;D
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:help
Yeah I saw his huge head floating around. Was actually having a good laugh with one of the boys at one stage which is a good sign.
:pray
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Would be massive if this guy can get on the park and improve on what he showed last year. I'd play anyone with a physical presence ahead of Griff at this point.
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Would be massive if this guy can get on the park and improve on what he showed last year. I'd play anyone with a physical presence ahead of Griff at this point.
Totally.
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l would play Griffiths in the forward line all game & build his confidence up
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l would play Griffiths in the forward line all game & build his confidence up
Why? What does he offer down there?
Would rather play McBean. At least he has a good set shot.
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true, and we still havnt found that crumber we are looking for
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Poster on Big Footy who went to the player sponsor's dinner last night reckons he was told that he still hasn't returned to the club.
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Poster on Big Footy who went to the player sponsor's dinner last night reckons he was told that he still hasn't returned to the club.
I was there last night & Reece def wasnt
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l would play Griffiths in the forward line all game & build his confidence up
He has had plenty of chances IMO, TRADE HIM AND PLAY N
McBean
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Poster on Big Footy who went to the player sponsor's dinner last night reckons he was told that he still hasn't returned to the club.
I was there last night & Reece def wasnt
I was there too and there were a couple missing
But it was a really good night
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l would play Griffiths in the forward line all game & build his confidence up
I think Griffiths needs to bulk up. The decision to slim him down has not been productive. I agree with what you are saying.
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l would play Griffiths in the forward line all game & build his confidence up
I think Griffiths needs to be traded. The decision to draft him has not been productive. I disagree with what you are saying.
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l would play Griffiths in the forward line all game & build his confidence up
I think Griffiths needs to be traded. The decision to draft him has not been productive. I disagree with what you are saying.
Unless he meant in the VFL whilst looking for a trade
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contract up at years end, if he isn't back at the Club by then do we cut our losses? perhaps if he still not sorted his issue's out he may choose to leave anyway?
perhaps if he is sorted etc & committed we can re-rookie him? i wouldn't be against that idea
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l would play Griffiths in the forward line all game & build his confidence up
He has had plenty of chances IMO, TRADE HIM AND PLAY N
McBean
From the same BF poster at the sponsor's dinner:
- Doubt if McBean will play this week. I was told by his sponser that he has to play multiple great games. 3 good games in a row and we may see him.
So one rule for him, another for Hunt...... Vickery.....B.Ellis.....
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Yep that's rubbish. Saying players have a to play a good few games in a row is fair play but that should apply to everyone except the out and out stars such as Deledio, Cotchin, Martin etc. if they were making their way back from injury or similiar
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Poster on Big Footy who went to the player sponsor's dinner last night reckons he was told that he still hasn't returned to the club.
I was there last night & Reece def wasnt
I was there too and there were a couple missing
But it was a really good night
Bachar turn up ?
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Poster on Big Footy who went to the player sponsor's dinner last night reckons he was told that he still hasn't returned to the club.
I was there last night & Reece def wasnt
I was there too and there were a couple missing
But it was a really good night
Bachar turn up ?
Why do you ask?
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Poster on Big Footy who went to the player sponsor's dinner last night reckons he was told that he still hasn't returned to the club.
I was there last night & Reece def wasnt
I was there too and there were a couple missing
But it was a really good night
Bachar turn up ?
No, was missing along with Reece McK & Chappy IIRC
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Bachar turn up ?
No, was missing along with Reece McK & Chappy IIRC
Yep correct
Just thought it was a strange question from Jack that's all
Couple of blokes were late too because of the lack of parking near the venue :snidegrin
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Bachar turn up ?
No, was missing along with Reece McK & Chappy IIRC
Yep correct
Just thought it was a strange question from Jack that's all
Couple of blokes were late too because of the lack of parking near the venue :snidegrin
I know of 1 sponsor who was a bit peeved her player wasn't present & hadn't been notified prior, maybe that's what Jack was alluding to
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Poster on Big Footy who went to the player sponsor's dinner last night reckons he was told that he still hasn't returned to the club.
I was there last night & Reece def wasnt
I was there too and there were a couple missing
But it was a really good night
Bachar turn up ?
Why do you ask?
Just asked that's all
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Bachar turn up ?
No, was missing along with Reece McK & Chappy IIRC
Yep correct
Just thought it was a strange question from Jack that's all
Couple of blokes were late too because of the lack of parking near the venue :snidegrin
I know of 1 sponsor who was a bit peeved her player wasn't present & hadn't been notified prior, maybe that's what Jack was alluding to
That is true, know that sponsor very well ;D
Just asked that's all
Just thought it was strange that you asked about 1 player when there were 3 that weren't there
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Big Reece was watching the boys down at Frankston last Saturday. I wish him all the best and hope he returns sooner rather than later.
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Jeez, if he was depressed before.....
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Jeez, if he was depressed before.....
Boom tish!
Not bad!! :lol
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McKenzie placed on long-term injury list
richmondfc.com.au May 12, 2016 5:32
Richmond player, Reece McKenzie has been placed onto the Club’s long-term injury list for mental health reasons.
Reece has spent extended periods of time away from the Club since the start of 2016 as a result of this ongoing issue.
Reece, his family and the Club’s medical and welfare staff feel it’s in the best interests of Reece’s wellbeing and recovery to be placed on the long-term injury list.
There is no timeline on when Reece may return to training at full capacity.
The Club, its players, coaches and staff will continue to support Reece and his family.
Reece Conca has been re-instated from the long-term injury list to the Club’s senior list after recovering from a hamstring injury sustained during the NAB Challenge.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-05-12/mckenzie-placed-on-longterm-injury-list
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Reece Conca has been re-instated from the long-term injury list to the Club’s senior list after recovering from a hamstring injury sustained during the NAB Challenge.
oh happy days.....(http://r31.imgfast.net/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/938804.gif)
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Reece Conca has been re-instated from the long-term injury list to the Club’s senior list after recovering from a hamstring injury sustained during the NAB Challenge.
oh happy days.....(http://r31.imgfast.net/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/938804.gif)
Here we go yet again, round and round on the magic turd ride....i wonder what will happen.....
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he'll blow a hamstring and everyone will squeal with delight?
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Elevate Marcon.
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Probably just spewin because he got picked up by Richmond.
His old man is a premiership Carlton player by the way.
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Elevate Marcon.
Yeah let's not....
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Elevate Marcon.
Yeah let's not....
Oh no, lets pretend we can improve......ah the accepters :snidegrin
Why wouldn't you do that? Why did we get him? He is part of the cream on top isn't he?
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No he's just a good ordinary player..... at VFL level....Lambert he ain't....
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No he's just a good ordinary player..... at VFL level....Lambert he ain't....
So why did we get him?
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Ask Francis, Blair & Danny Boy.... who the stuff knows why they do anything?
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Ask Francis, Blair & Danny Boy....who the stuff knows why they do anything?
Well he was part of the cream, so either elevate him, see what he's got or bloody get rid of him.
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i know its only semantics but i highly doubt dan would have too much input into who we draft
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Go back to sleep you were making more sense then
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Ask Francis, Blair & Danny Boy....who the stuff knows why they do anything?
Well he was part of the cream, so either elevate him, see what he's got or bloody get rid of him.
No he wasn't he was just a rookie pick.....they're the most speculative picks of all.....Marcon's the quality you'll get more often than not....
i know its only semantics but i highly doubt dan would have too much input into who we draft
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Dan is Moe to Francis & Blair's Curly & Larry....
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Ask Francis, Blair & Danny Boy....who the stuff knows why they do anything?
Well he was part of the cream, so either elevate him, see what he's got or bloody get rid of him.
No he wasn't he was just a rookie pick.....they're the most speculative picks of all.....Marcon's the quality you'll get more often than not....
cue the list of 1/2 dozen that come good and ignoring the hundreds that dont to say otherwise.....
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Ask Francis, Blair & Danny Boy....who the stuff knows why they do anything?
Well he was part of the cream, so either elevate him, see what he's got or bloody get rid of him.
LOL if you think a mature aged VFL player on the rookie list is meant to be part of our "cream".
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Ask Francis, Blair & Danny Boy....who the stuff knows why they do anything?
Well he was part of the cream, so either elevate him, see what he's got or bloody get rid of him.
LOL if you think a mature aged VFL player on the rookie list is meant to be part of our "cream".
LOL, you still don't get t do you...I DID NOT RECRUIT THESE PLAYERS AS PART OF THE CREAM, THE RFC DID!!!!
I really hope you actually get it this time, challenged a bit are you... :help
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lol how do you draw the conclusion that when hardwick mentioned the cream he was referring to rookie listed players?
And you wonder if others are mentally challenged? :lol
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lol how do you draw the conclusion that when hardwick mentioned the cream he was referring to rookie listed players?
And you wonder if others are mentally challenged? :lol
So then expert, as you really think you are, who are the players he was refeering to then??
Oh yeah, you and SD... :help
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To be honest, peter, I dont know. I would expect Yarran, and perhaps our first draft pick, but by the definition of cream, they dont get taken with rookie picks.
What makes you think a rookie pick would be classed as cream?
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To be honest, peter, I dont know. I would expect Yarran, and perhaps our first draft pick, but by the definition of cream, they dont get taken with rookie picks.
What makes you think a rookie pick would be classed as cream?
Seeing you know it all go back and re read the article that the cream on top was based on.
What makes you think it wouldn't based on the poo we have seen and listened to this year?
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The cream comment clearly referred to Yarran......not the stuffing rookie list .....
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If you want to keep thinking that the cream refers to those rated closer to the 100 mark that then the top ten in the draft then good for you.
I dont think you could possibly convince anyone you are more clueless than you have already shown, so it doesnt really matter.
That tattoo would make things simpler though.
I knew it would be too much to ask that you answer the question, even though i answered yours.
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If you want to keep thinking that the cream refers to those rated closer to the 100 mark that then the top ten in the draft then good for you.
I dont think you could possibly convince anyone you are more clueless than you have already shown, so it doesnt really matter.
That tattoo would make things simpler though.
I knew it would be too much to ask that you answer the question, even though i answered yours.
I suppose no one is a smart as you, with the double profile eh...
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double profile?
intriguing, just when you thought you'd seen the depths of dumbness....
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double profile?
intriguing, just when you thought you'd seen the depths of dumbness....
Yeah keep going... :snidegrin
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the cream sir moron was talking yarren and rioli
its just he doesnt understand the base of his cake is made of poo - hampson, grigg, chaplin, morris, hunt and co.
put on all the cream you want its still a poo cake
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:lol
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He was actually talking about Broad and a few more....also talks up players that haven't done as he said and what about the Batch comment.....that's a laugh inst it...... :lol :lol :lol
“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.
“The big thing with our list strategy is we had a really good draft last year.
“So those players will come on this year. Corey Ellis didn’t play a lot, Connor Menadue, Nathan Drummond will come through.
“Then we added Chris Yarran as a ready-made player and Andrew Moore and Jacob Townsend. We are pretty happy with our build over 24 months.”
“They were a real form team of the competition. But we are looking to improve again and I have got no doubt we will with the talent we have pulled in and a couple of bits of game style we are working on over the summer.”
Richmond secured 22-year-old WAFL defender Nathan Broad with pick 67, and Hardwick has declared every defensive position open for Round 1.
David Astbury’s trade to Brisbane was aborted late, Todd Elton is pushing hard, and Broad could be in contention for an early debut.
“Nathan is 22 and he was outstanding for his WAFL club. He offers an element of speed and could play on a wing. He is similar to Jake Batchelor or Dylan Grimes — he can play tall or small.
“He is a player who if he gets a good chunk of the pre-season under his belt he can play early
“We are really pleased (Astbury) stayed. We had a really solid back six last year and didn’t have one injury.
“He realises how important he is to the future and we expect him to have a really good season. Those positions are up for grabs.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-depth-of-richmond-list-excites-coach-damien-hardwick/news-story/e9534333884e997d5cc11cdbab0aad7c
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Ask Francis, Blair & Danny Boy....who the stuff knows why they do anything?
Well he was part of the cream, so either elevate him, see what he's got or bloody get rid of him.
LOL if you think a mature aged VFL player on the rookie list is meant to be part of our "cream".
LOL, you still don't get t do you...I DID NOT RECRUIT THESE PLAYERS AS PART OF THE CREAM, THE RFC DID!!!!
I really hope you actually get it this time, challenged a bit are you... :help
No one recruited him as part of the cream, you are the ONLY one who thinks he is part of the cream. I guess you accept mediocrity and want to continue with the moneyball recruiting. I'm not sure who is the challenged one here? I won't ask you because you're gutless and never answer any questions.
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lol he also talks about depth. i suppose he is referring to yarren there?
lmao
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Ask Francis, Blair & Danny Boy....who the stuff knows why they do anything?
Well he was part of the cream, so either elevate him, see what he's got or bloody get rid of him.
LOL if you think a mature aged VFL player on the rookie list is meant to be part of our "cream".
LOL, you still don't get t do you...I DID NOT RECRUIT THESE PLAYERS AS PART OF THE CREAM, THE RFC DID!!!!
I really hope you actually get it this time, challenged a bit are you... :help
No one recruited him as part of the cream, you are the ONLY one who thinks he is part of the cream. I guess you accept mediocrity and want to continue with the moneyball recruiting. I'm not sure who is the challenged one here? I won't ask you because you're gutless and never answer any questions.
So who is the cream then SD??
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double profile?
intriguing, just when you thought you'd seen the depths of dumbness....
Yeah keep going... :snidegrin
So are you going to tell everyone the great discovery you think have made?
:lol
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He was actually talking about Broad and a few more....also talks up players that haven't done as he said and what about the Batch comment.....that's a laugh inst it...... :lol :lol :lol
“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.
“The big thing with our list strategy is we had a really good draft last year.
“So those players will come on this year. Corey Ellis didn’t play a lot, Connor Menadue, Nathan Drummond will come through.
“Then we added Chris Yarran as a ready-made player and Andrew Moore and Jacob Townsend. We are pretty happy with our build over 24 months.”
“They were a real form team of the competition. But we are looking to improve again and I have got no doubt we will with the talent we have pulled in and a couple of bits of game style we are working on over the summer.”
Richmond secured 22-year-old WAFL defender Nathan Broad with pick 67, and Hardwick has declared every defensive position open for Round 1.
David Astbury’s trade to Brisbane was aborted late, Todd Elton is pushing hard, and Broad could be in contention for an early debut.
“Nathan is 22 and he was outstanding for his WAFL club. He offers an element of speed and could play on a wing. He is similar to Jake Batchelor or Dylan Grimes — he can play tall or small.
“He is a player who if he gets a good chunk of the pre-season under his belt he can play early
“We are really pleased (Astbury) stayed. We had a really solid back six last year and didn’t have one injury.
“He realises how important he is to the future and we expect him to have a really good season. Those positions are up for grabs.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-depth-of-richmond-list-excites-coach-damien-hardwick/news-story/e9534333884e997d5cc11cdbab0aad7c
The idiot was not talking about Broad being the 'cream'. its challenging to decipher his comments as he doesn't have a firm grasp of the English language. He was trying to say Broad adds depth branching over a few topics at once
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oh great, now you will just confuse him even more.
one simple concept at a time !
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So who is the cream then SD??
What's SD?
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So when you have all finished, tell me, who is the cream....??
Cmon experts who is it...?...
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If you want to believe the crap hardwick tries to speak read it as , he means rioli / yarren / c Ellis / Menadue
As dumb as the man is I doubt he means broad is the cream as he's a back up third defender
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So when you have all finished, tell me, who is the cream....??
Cmon experts who is it...?...
you have already been told on numerous occasions, yet you wont explain why you believe the cream on top refers to the dregs?
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So when you have all finished, tell me, who is the cream....??
Cmon experts who is it...?...
you have already been told on numerous occasions, yet you wont explain why you believe the cream on top refers to the dregs?
Yeah you will need to tell me again as I keep missing your nominated cream on top players....
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:facepalm
Some people just never get it
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The dogs.... :facepalm
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Effing most pointless conversation ever.
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Effing most pointless conversation ever.
Depends how you look at it
Hardwick "cream" comment when the list is obviously deeply flawed just another of the stupid stuff he says time again
Should be another nail In coffin if held accountable
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Effing most pointless conversation ever.
Depends how you look at it
Hardwick "cream" comment when the list is obviously deeply flawed just another of the stupid stuff he says time again
Should be another nail In coffin if held accountable
I get that, just that 'this was the cream' NO 'that was the cream' whole thing. There is no cream.
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Effing most pointless conversation ever.
Depends how you look at it
Hardwick "cream" comment when the list is obviously deeply flawed just another of the stupid stuff he says time again
Should be another nail In coffin if held accountable
I get that, just that 'this was the cream' NO 'that was the cream' whole thing. There is no cream.
If there were a solid base
Then rioli yarren could indeed te cream potentially
Just not when Dimma has spent 7 years mixing his halal poo cake
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Is this thread about Reece McKenzie?
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Is this thread about Reece McKenzie?
Yeah, you see WAT has worked out that Al is actually Reese and had called him out on his double identity. Reese also likes cream on top of his tea.
Once you get that, it becomes quite easy to understand the thread:
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Is this thread about Reece McKenzie?
We can discuss depression if you like
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Effing most pointless conversation ever.
Depends how you look at it
Hardwick "cream" comment when the list is obviously deeply flawed just another of the stupid stuff he says time again
Should be another nail In coffin if held accountable
I get that, just that 'this was the cream' NO 'that was the cream' whole thing. There is no cream.
:clapping :bow........yes, finally someone gets it!!!!!
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Is this thread about Reece McKenzie?
We can discuss depression if you like
Is he depressed because he knows his football career is finished before it even started?
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Effing most pointless conversation ever.
Depends how you look at it
Hardwick "cream" comment when the list is obviously deeply flawed just another of the stupid stuff he says time again
Should be another nail In coffin if held accountable
I get that, just that 'this was the cream' NO 'that was the cream' whole thing. There is no cream.
:clapping :bow........yes, finally someone gets it!!!!!
Not sure i do....im confused
There cant be cream if there is no base. If there was a base, there would be cream. As there isnt a base there is no cream
Yes?
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Effing most pointless conversation ever.
Depends how you look at it
Hardwick "cream" comment when the list is obviously deeply flawed just another of the stupid stuff he says time again
Should be another nail In coffin if held accountable
I get that, just that 'this was the cream' NO 'that was the cream' whole thing. There is no cream.
:clapping :bow........yes, finally someone gets it!!!!!
Not sure i do....im confused
There cant be cream if there is no base. If there was a base, there would be cream. As there isnt a base there is no cream
Yes?
Well yes, but ......... :lol
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Im done here.
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Good luck to the kid, hope he gets it it sorted out.
Bumped into him at Costco last year seems like a nice bloke!
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Effing most pointless conversation ever.
Depends how you look at it
Hardwick "cream" comment when the list is obviously deeply flawed just another of the stupid stuff he says time again
Should be another nail In coffin if held accountable
I get that, just that 'this was the cream' NO 'that was the cream' whole thing. There is no cream.
:clapping :bow........yes, finally someone gets it!!!!!
I thought Marcon was the cream :lol
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So you think Marcon can come in and take us to the next level?
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So you think Marcon can come in and take us to the next level?
So you think Morris and Batch have come in and taken us to the next level?
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So you think Marcon can come in and take us to the next level?
So you think Morris and Batch have come in and taken us to the next level?
Did you have toast for breakfast?
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So you think Marcon can come in and take us to the next level?
So you think Morris and Batch have come in and taken us to the next level?
Did you have toast for breakfast?
Did you have toast for breakfast?
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He posted about his situation on BF last night:
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/getting-around-reece-mckenzie.1133167/#post-44789869
Linked it on his twitter account so it is legit:
https://twitter.com/reecemck21?ref_src=twsrc
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Reece McKenzie takes leave from Richmond to deal with mental health issues
May 30, 2016 10:52pm
Jay ClarkHerald Sun
RICHMOND forward Reece McKenzie has detailed his battle with depression, saying it left him unable to leave his bedroom for several days.
The second-year big man on Monday night posted on social media to thank fans for their support as he tackled some mental health problems.
McKenzie has taken leave from the club this year and said he was unsure if he would play football again this season.
The 20-year-old said it was only just recently that he discovered he suffered from anxiety.
“It started off as little things like (being) afraid to talk to certain coaches or trainers, feeling anxious around certain players, trying to avoid people in general,” McKenzie said.
“And then it progressed into way more serious things like panic attacks, unable to leave my bedroom for multiple days and not even being able to respond to all the messages and calls on my phone that I received during that time, as that is also another thing that I struggle with.”
McKenzie, who was taken with pick No. 77 in the 2014 national draft, said the past two years have been “really difficult”.
Richmond has given the Northern Knights product its full support to deal with his mental health issues.
“I don’t want to go into specifics because I don’t want to release really sensitive information but just know that it has affected me to the point where I have suffered spouts of depression for weeks at a time here and there,” he said.
“I don’t drink or do drugs thankfully so I am grounded in myself to see and recognize the issues I have and the effect they have on me.”
The 197cm goal kicker, who is the son of 1987 Carlton premiership player Warren McKenzie, said he would not give up on his footy dream.
“No matter how hard it gets or how low or how anxious I get, I will not give up until I can be the best footballer I possibly can be, because there is nothing else more in the world that I want more,” he said.
“Thank you Richmond Supporters …. you are some of the most passionate supporters I have seen in any sport and for some of you to even know who I am still humbles me.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/reece-mckenzie-takes-leave-from-richmond-to-deal-with-mental-health-issues/news-story/eebd6d4839e47c77e4b81a47c0667471
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Bloody sad this and good on him, many on this forum can climb back under their accusation rock until the next time we have a player with issues. Good on him for dealing with this, good on him for not giving up and my god I hope this ends up a great story of success at the end of the day.
Well done Reece and the best of luck. :thumbsup
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Big thumbs up to Reece :thumbsup and good luck
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Showed great courage to say what he is going through. Good luck Reece.
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Showed great courage to say what he is going through. Good luck Reece.
And maturity along with great self awareness.
Well played young man. :clapping
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All players have the right to their own way of handling things and keeping their privacy but I think McKenzie has nailed it so far. A good step towards recovery IMO :clapping good luck to the big lad. Hope he not only gets better but can be that big, quick FF we need :pray
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Reece McKenzie takes leave from Richmond to deal with mental health issues
May 30, 2016 10:52pm
Jay ClarkHerald Sun
RICHMOND forward Reece McKenzie has detailed his battle with depression, saying it left him unable to leave his bedroom for several days.
The second-year big man on Monday night posted on social media to thank fans for their support as he tackled some mental health problems.
McKenzie has taken leave from the club this year and said he was unsure if he would play football again this season.
The 20-year-old said it was only just recently that he discovered he suffered from anxiety.
“It started off as little things like (being) afraid to talk to certain coaches or trainers, feeling anxious around certain players, trying to avoid people in general,” McKenzie said.
“And then it progressed into way more serious things like panic attacks, unable to leave my bedroom for multiple days and not even being able to respond to all the messages and calls on my phone that I received during that time, as that is also another thing that I struggle with.”
McKenzie, who was taken with pick No. 77 in the 2014 national draft, said the past two years have been “really difficult”.
Richmond has given the Northern Knights product its full support to deal with his mental health issues.
“I don’t want to go into specifics because I don’t want to release really sensitive information but just know that it has affected me to the point where I have suffered spouts of depression for weeks at a time here and there,” he said.
“I don’t drink or do drugs thankfully so I am grounded in myself to see and recognize the issues I have and the effect they have on me.”
The 197cm goal kicker, who is the son of 1987 Carlton premiership player Warren McKenzie, said he would not give up on his footy dream.
“No matter how hard it gets or how low or how anxious I get, I will not give up until I can be the best footballer I possibly can be, because there is nothing else more in the world that I want more,” he said.
“Thank you Richmond Supporters …. you are some of the most passionate supporters I have seen in any sport and for some of you to even know who I am still humbles me.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/reece-mckenzie-takes-leave-from-richmond-to-deal-with-mental-health-issues/news-story/eebd6d4839e47c77e4b81a47c0667471
Wow!
Makes you appreciate them as young men first and footballers a distant second.
That is really sad to read that about one of our own.
Hope he gets well soon. And after that who knows. :gotigers
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Agree with everything else posters have said.
My question now is, what will the club do with regards to his contract which ends this year? I would offer him a rookie position personally.
What do others think?
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Agree with everything else posters have said.
My question now is, what will the club do with regards to his contract which ends this year? I would offer him a rookie position personally.
What do others think?
I'd just let the rest year run its course and then see then.
But if he is still dealing with it, yes a rookie spot seems a good call.
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Reece spoke to the posters on Big Footy earlier....
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/getting-around-reece-mckenzie.1133167/
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Stoked we got this kid late in the draft given his upside. Was always a lot termer. Good to hear his heart is in it.
#sackhardprick
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Reece spoke to the posters on Big Footy earlier....
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/getting-around-reece-mckenzie.1133167/
Dio beat you to it
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Reece spoke to the posters on Big Footy earlier....
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/getting-around-reece-mckenzie.1133167/
Dio beat you to it
Sorry. Spotted it on twitter. Brave young man.
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Good response by Reece on Big Footy to those who have supported him.
I wish him all the best with his battle with the Black Dog , I hope he can turn it around.
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yep good on him - wish him all the best, comes across as a very sincere young bloke
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A young man who is coming to grips with a terrible disease, which is very hard to control. Medications which most of you would be on :snidegrin have such powerful side affects.
l wish this lad all the very best in his struggle & hope that he can get back playing football at any level. Some of the best footballers have suffered this disease in-fact many sports people suffer anxiety / depression after their career. It seems to strike down people who have had a very busy lifestyle & when they start to ease off that is the time that most notice something is not right. It seems to strike down professionals of many sports. l believe it is a Adrenalin Hyperactive sort of problem & not mental as they class it. l just hope one day they find a cure for most of you ;D If Reece McKenzie can post on a forum to the Richmond supporters & football fans in general. It's a mighty step forward in recovery. Best Wishes Reece if your floating around the forums.
:gotigers
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Reece spoke to the posters on Big Footy earlier....
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/getting-around-reece-mckenzie.1133167/
Dio beat you to it
Sorry. Spotted it on twitter. Brave young man.
Not good enough
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Reece has decided to retire.
Sad news indeed.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-06-30/mckenzie-retires-from-richmond
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Well I hope he can move on and sort out his life. Good luck to him.
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Just hope he doesn't turn up on Carlton's list in the next year or two....
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Very disappointed but I hope he finds happiness outside AFL football.
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Damn, was excited to see what he could do
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Dissapointing but cant say anyone here really cares to the point of losing sleep.
Unless i stand to be corrected.
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Young Tiger retires after 18 months on club's list
Travis King
AFL.com.au
June 30, 2016 4:11 PM
RICHMOND youngster Reece McKenzie has retired from the AFL after battling mental health issues.
The 20-year-old key forward was placed on the Tigers' long-term injury list in May and spent extended time away from the club to deal with the condition.
Richmond issued a statement on Thursday saying McKenzie has applied to play with Marcellin Old Collegians in the VAFA.
"The club understands Reece's decision and wishes both him and his family all the best in his football career and future endeavours."
McKenzie, the son of Carlton premiership player Warren McKenzie, was taken by the Tigers with pick No.77 in the 2014 NAB AFL Draft.
The Northern Knights product didn't play a senior game for Richmond.
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All i have to say
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmLdSfuUgAAzB3h.jpg)
— Reece McKenzie (@reecemck21) June 30, 2016
And thanks to all the fans and supporters you guys are great, I'd give you all a big hug if i could
— Reece McKenzie (@reecemck21) June 30, 2016
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-30/young-tiger-reece-mckenzie-retires
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fair enough.
Young bloke needs to regroup.
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Yes great pity but if it's the right thing for him atm then it's the right thing. The black dog can be overcome but it takes time let's hope he rises above it some day soon.
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Sat on a table with Reece at a club 80 function, he's a good bloke and i wish him all the best.
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Just hope he doesn't turn up on Carlton's list in the next year or two....
This would not be good for my depression
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fair enough.
Young bloke needs to regroup.
Aren't you singing a different tune when Yarran is mentioned?
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different color
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Mckenzie gone walk about
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he better not get rookied by carlton after a miraculous recovery
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Very sad news but completely understandable. A very considerate and selfless decision to retire. I wish him a speedy recovery and good luck for the future.
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I don't think it will be the end of the AFL road for the big fella,hope he gets himself right and has another crack at some stage.
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Yes - with his beloved Bluebaggers...
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fair enough.
Young bloke needs to regroup.
Aren't you singing a different tune when Yarran is mentioned?
YEP.
I hope that's ok with you.
I can explain it but i can't make you understand.
:thumbsup
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there you have it, in black and white.
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there you have it, in black and white.
Lol!
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fair enough.
Young bloke needs to regroup.
Aren't you singing a different tune when Yarran is mentioned?
YEP.
I hope that's ok with you.
I can explain it but i can't make you understand.
:thumbsup
Ones a kid and ones a selfish flog who landed on our door step looking like the goodyear blimp.
As for his mental state well like buddy I'm mighty sure they will both pull through.
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why is yarran a selfish flog?
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Cause he went wall about instead of playing back flank
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Cause he went awal eating donuts about instead of playing back flank
Correct
slight edit.
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Reece McKenzie released from Richmond to help recovery
JON RALPH
Herald Sun
July 2, 2016
RICHMOND believes releasing key forward Reece McKenzie to play VAFA football will aid his recovery from a two-year battle with depression.
The 197cm son of Carlton premiership player Warren McKenzie was likened to Tom Hawkins for his marking prowess when drafted in late 2014.
But having played 15 VFL games last year, McKenzie was given personal leave early this season and has now been granted a clearance with Old Marcellin.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick was a huge fan of the contested marking forward, who will step away from AFL footy to prioritise his mental health.
McKenzie’s manager Nick Gieschen lauded Richmond’s response to his issues.
“His brother plays at Old Marcellin as well and he’s excited about pulling the boots on and helping out his old club,” Gieschen said.
“Richmond and Dan Richardson have been fantastic for him these past two years.”
As a junior prodigy McKenzie kicked 10.2 for the Northern Knights in his final TAC Cup year, then kicked a school record 16.4 in a school game for Old Marcellin.
But he is one of an increasing group of AFL players who are becoming open about their battle with depression and mental health issues.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/reece-mckenzie-released-from-richmond-to-help-recovery/news-story/5a13a2e38a856201b96034682afe0997
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Good luck to the boy. Hope he gets himself right and finds his way back to the club for another shot on the rookie list.
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do we get our pick back?
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So we get a top up player?
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fair enough.
Young bloke needs to regroup.
Aren't you singing a different tune when Yarran is mentioned?
YEP.
I hope that's ok with you.
I can explain it but i can't make you understand.
:thumbsup
Ones a kid and ones a selfish flog who landed on our door step looking like the goodyear blimp.
As for his mental state well like buddy I'm mighty sure they will both pull through.
Well, we get it, Angus.
They're not very bright because they
A)don't understand
B)Think they can split hairs.
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Interesting to note, they had no input into the thread but rather, prefer to question my own good wishes.
:snidegrin
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Interesting to note, they had no input into the thread but rather, prefer to question my own good wishes.
:snidegrin
Actually incorrect but whatever helps you feel safe from criticism instead of wearing it like a man. Care to explain how it's different? That other dude used Yarran being overweight as an excuse but McKenzie was not much better in that regard
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Reports today that he has been put back on main list. Anybody know anything about this or just untrue?
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He's Meyan?
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Reports today that he has been put back on main list. Anybody know anything about this or just untrue?
It's actually true.
"Richmond has reinstated Reece McKenzie to the senior list from the long-term injury list."
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
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Reports today that he has been put back on main list. Anybody know anything about this or just untrue?
It's actually true.
"Richmond has reinstated Reece McKenzie to the senior list from the long-term injury list."
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
So is he still retired and if son why do this?
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procedure only unfortunately, have to be on main list to be taken off main list
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Word is Macca reckons if Hampson/Hunt and Hunt/Hampson are getting a game then he is a shoe in
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Word is Macca reckons if Hampson/Hunt and Hunt/Hampson are getting a game then he is a shoe in
Hamspud lopes around the ground as if he's depressed....
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Word is Macca reckons if Hampson/Hunt and Hunt/Hampson are getting a game then he is a shoe in
Hamspud lopes around the ground as if he's depressed....
He stuffn depresses me.
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Sorry but LMAO At two blokes getting depression in their first year at the RFC. :facepalm :facepalm
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Sorry but LMAO At two blokes getting depression in their first year at the RFC. :facepalm :facepalm
Yeah I haven't been able to stop laughing either. Absolutely side splitting stuff.
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Sorry but LMAO At two blokes getting depression in their first year at the RFC. :facepalm :facepalm
Yeah I haven't been able to stop laughing either. Absolutely side splitting stuff.
I reckon it poor of the clubs failure in firstly drafting them if they did have depression and not being able to help them, and failure if they didn't have depression that it has come on and still the club can't help either of them. Despite probably the best resources in the land.
Both professional athletes who are nutritionally undisciplined I might add.
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Sorry but LMAO At two blokes getting depression in their first year at the RFC. :facepalm :facepalm
Yeah I haven't been able to stop laughing either. Absolutely side splitting stuff.
I reckon it poor of the clubs failure in firstly drafting them if they did have depression and not being able to help them, and failure if they didn't have depression that it has come on and still the club can't help either of them. Despite probably the best resources in the land.
Both professional athletes who are nutritionally undisciplined I might add.
I can see your point but considering that depression affects one in five people ( some stats say one in four) it is inevitable that a cohort that has over forty people in will have some depression present.
Also, it is not up to the club alone to help those affected, it's a wholistic approach. Family, friends, the club, mental health professionals and mostly the individual themselves are responsible for mental health recovery.
Depression can also strike quite quickly and can be difficult to preempt.
This is not the clubs fault, it not anyone's fault.
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Sorry but LMAO At two blokes getting depression in their first year at the RFC. :facepalm :facepalm
Yeah I haven't been able to stop laughing either. Absolutely side splitting stuff.
I reckon it poor of the clubs failure in firstly drafting them if they did have depression and not being able to help them, and failure if they didn't have depression that it has come on and still the club can't help either of them. Despite probably the best resources in the land.
Both professional athletes who are nutritionally undisciplined I might add.
Maybe they read this forum, that would challenge any players mental health. Speaking of which, Ox, have you had that complete and utter lack of human empathy looked at? It is kind of disturbing, the stuff weirdo's who hurt small animals and beat women are made of. You aren't a weirdo are you Ox? You like women and animals right? ;D
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I would hope so Owl, I would hope so
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Sorry but LMAO At two blokes getting depression in their first year at the RFC. :facepalm :facepalm
Yeah I haven't been able to stop laughing either. Absolutely side splitting stuff.
I reckon it poor of the clubs failure in firstly drafting them if they did have depression and not being able to help them, and failure if they didn't have depression that it has come on and still the club can't help either of them. Despite probably the best resources in the land.
Both professional athletes who are nutritionally undisciplined I might add.
Maybe they read this forum, that would challenge any players mental health. Speaking of which, Ox, have you had that complete and utter lack of human empathy looked at? It is kind of disturbing, the stuff weirdo's who hurt small animals and beat women are made of. You aren't a weirdo are you Ox? You like women and animals right? ;D
Harden the stuff up u poofters.
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Your kids will get depression because you promote it.
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Lmao at believing the club's excuses.
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Ill take that as a no then :snidegrin
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Your kids will get depression because you promote it.
That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard
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Your kids will get depression because you promote it.
That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard
Just wait five minutes and you'll be posting that comment again.
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Your kids will get depression because you promote it.
That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard
Just wait five minutes and you'll be posting that comment again.
:lol :clapping
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:lol
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Reports today that he has been put back on main list. Anybody know anything about this or just untrue?
It's actually true.
"Richmond has reinstated Reece McKenzie to the senior list from the long-term injury list."
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
So is he still retired and if son why do this?
procedure only unfortunately, have to be on main list to be taken off main list
Q. Any truth to this @reecemck21 I'm happy if so?
Reece McKenzie @reecemck21 - "I'm happy playing oldboys"
https://twitter.com/reecemck21/status/756321910112124929
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(https://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2016/11/305949_07e2a86040cd719c180ede4e94a7d1a1.png)
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Whoa.........telling it how it is.....clapping
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Whoa.........telling it how it is.....clapping
Um, I am not sure that he is telling us how it is, just how he perceives it. It's a far cry from the statements he released when he retired. Anyway, I am resisting the temptation to use this as evidence of Dan Richardson's incompetence.
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Sad that he tried to commit suicide at 16. It sounds like he has some very serious issues to deal with.
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Sad that he tried to commit suicide at 16. It sounds like he has some very serious issues to deal with.
Yep by his own admission he had serious issues before he got to the Tigers.
Maybe he needed the full time care of a mental health organization rather than the competitiveness and stress of an AFL club
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Feel very sorry for him.
By his own admissions it seems like problems were there long before Dan or Richmond had anything to do with him.
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Without knowing details and really not trying to defend Dan Richardson, but the guy is not a trained psychiatrist. It's hard to be critical of him without knowing exactly what he did to make Reece's situation worse.
Nothing was stopping Reece getting professional help while he was at Richmond. I assume his family would have been supporting him. Did they ask the club for help? The club gave him time off to sort himself out too but this isn't mentioned by Reece.
I think as much as many here think Dan is incompetent, on this issue, we need far more evidence in front of us before wean hang him.......
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All,
I have snipped things out of this thread while I get some advice
Reasons being
1/ Pic posted by Dio did not contain the appropriate link back to Big footy as the source of the pic
2/ The said pic on Big Footy again contains no link - so how can anyone confirm it is legit?
3/ Suggestions were it was something posted on Facebook as it wasn't on Twitter or Instragam
4/ Someone posted that it was not on Facebook
5/ Another posted said it was in fact true but didn't / couldn't prove it
I'm sure people will (again) complain about us being heavy handed
But facts are there is no proof (read proper link) to / from the original source (in this instance BF) that it was legit in any way shape or form
So for now until I get some advice it stays off this forum
Will update on this later when I have some news
WP
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As if you're going to ever be sued... ::)
You should get a new lawyer
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As if you're going to ever be sued... ::)
You should get a new lawyer
I'll keep that in mind the next time i have someone's lawyer comtact us and threatening to sue which has happened
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WP are we allowed to post an opinion on what was originally posted ?
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Can anyone PM the pic/story?
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https://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2016/11/305949_07e2a86040cd719c180ede4e94a7d1a1.png
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oh woe is me if true...and on that how do these things stay up on BF and nothings ever happened?
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Really, is he being singled out and bullied around by the club or is he acopic with AFL-level sporting commitment?
Hope it's not true...
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Can confirm that the status no longer exists if it indeed it ever did.
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This was tweeted half an hour ago:
https://twitter.com/reecemck21/status/793618175896059904
The conversation underneath all but confirms it was a legitimate post.
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Wish the bloke all the best but it's a professional sporting organisation, not welfare.
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:chuck
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He hates Richmond but still has the line #42 Richmond in his profile on Twitter
Could be a hack
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Wonder how he feels about the other 17 clubs who all overlooked him at least four times in the draft?
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Ok all is good
Thank you to everyone who respected our request until we got this sorted.
Although, based on the use of the f-bomb throughout the tirade, it really shouldn't on the forum, it breaks all the fules re the swear filter
WP
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Seems to have contradicted himself a fair bit there young Reece.
Says he tried to commit suicide at 16 then goes on to blame the club for his mental health issues.
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Afl clubs are pressure cookers at the best of times but Richmond is definitely not the place for fragile minds.
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Don't know about that - have you seen us play in recent years?
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From his previous tweet, it seems he was not a Lids fan. The concept of Lids not being a team player is gaining traction.
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As if you're going to ever be sued... ::)
You should get a new lawyer
I'll keep that in mind the next time i have someone's lawyer comtact us and threatening to sue which has happened
Let me talk with them.
My lawyer will telly hem to stuff off
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A shame Reece isn't aboriginal.
#Equality.
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Think he post fits in perfectly on this forum; lot's of complaining and swearing (albeit not avoiding the swear filter) not a whole lot of justification :snidegrin
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From his previous tweet, it seems he was not a Lids fan. The concept of Lids not being a team player is gaining traction.
What did it say?
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From his previous tweet, it seems he was not a Lids fan. The concept of Lids not being a team player is gaining traction.
Hardly
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From his previous tweet, it seems he was not a Lids fan. The concept of Lids not being a team player is gaining traction.
What did it say?
https://twitter.com/reecemck21/status/788638545736892416
Put the content and the time together and make the inference.
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Wouldn't be the first time on earth young men got bitter and resentful when told to pull their heads in by older ones
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You ruined my destiny! my birthright! stuff me sideways princess what is going on with this generation of spawn. We need a do over!
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the generation where awards were given out for participation will always expect that it's just given to them!
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From his previous tweet, it seems he was not a Lids fan. The concept of Lids not being a team player is gaining traction.
I did mention this a number of times previously. Shame we didn't pee B2 off also.
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the generation where awards were given out for participation will always expect that it's just given to them!
:clapping
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Starting to gain some traction in the mainstream media this story.
Rohan Connolly and Andy Maher were talking about it on SEN earlier today.
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Starting to gain some traction in the mainstream media this story.
Rohan Connolly and Andy Maher were talking about it on SEN earlier today.
Two Rhodes scholars.
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A post by a young lad who is struggling with his life. A typical outburst of someone who needs help. That someone who has ability to be something very good, But then has no control over his anxiety which can be crippling & debilitating. A perfect example happening right in front of our eyes. l feel for this young lad as l have seen this countless times. Anxiety affects people in so many ways & one of the strongest symptoms is chronic fatigue. This itself would have been a major factor why some players can't perform their job. RFC could no longer keep him on & deciding in the best interests of all concerned to let him go to seek further help with professionals in that field. Being back in his home state closer to his family is a good start. Regardless of him suffering this prior to coming to RFC. He would have been watched closely & had performed tasks covering all the ticks to move to the next level. It does not take very much for general anxiety to kick in for anyone moving so far away from home, Away from family & friends & being with strangers trying to perform at a elite level that is extreme for most. l do hope this young fella can live life & enjoy any type of football in the future. Anxiety is not "Your a mental case" It a bit like being a adrenalin junkie. Some get a rush, Some get fatigued & exhausted without even doing anything & just can't do what their mind wants them too. It's a fear of failure & many other things. Everyone is different & everyone cope's with it in their own way. Everyone in life at some stage will suffer from anxiety which l have myself so l fully understand it. If you get the right help & communicate with many about it, You can live a very normal life. Anxiety / Depression seems to attack many types of people in sports.
This lad needs all the help he can get & it would be very weak & sad for anyone to attack him about what he is going through. The very best in health to you Reece.
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His whole outburst is poles apart from what hie manager said at the time, actually praised Dan R in particular
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Whoa.........telling it how it is.....clapping
Um, I am not sure that he is telling us how it is, just how he perceives it. It's a far cry from the statements he released when he retired. Anyway, I am resisting the temptation to use this as evidence of Dan Richardson's incompetence.
I'm sure there is far more compelling evidence out there that that of a young, confused and angry man whose AFL dream is currently smouldering....
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From his previous tweet, it seems he was not a Lids fan. The concept of Lids not being a team player is gaining traction.
I did mention this a number of times previously. Shame we didn't pee B2 off also.
Nothing like taking the word of somebody who for his own sake should probably never been drafted, and obviously doesn't like anybody who has some expectation of him.
To come out and attack the RFC and Dan Richardson like he has is just wrong, but in the present state of mind I'm not sure anybody should give him any credibility
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Lashing out to seek attention.....common way people cry our for help. This is what the lad needs, help by professional people. I wish him well but it is not necessary to bag a club that supported you for 18 months.
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Speaking to a few guys who knew him in his junior days - by all accounts he had the talent. Was a possible top 10 pick before things went a bit pear shaped.
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Good post TM.
A post by a young lad who is struggling with his life. A typical outburst of someone who needs help. That someone who has ability to be something very good, But then has no control over his anxiety which can be crippling & debilitating. A perfect example happening right in front of our eyes. l feel for this young lad as l have seen this countless times. Anxiety affects people in so many ways & one of the strongest symptoms is chronic fatigue. This itself would have been a major factor why some players can't perform their job. RFC could no longer keep him on & deciding in the best interests of all concerned to let him go to seek further help with professionals in that field. Being back in his home state closer to his family is a good start. Regardless of him suffering this prior to coming to RFC. He would have been watched closely & had performed tasks covering all the ticks to move to the next level. It does not take very much for general anxiety to kick in for anyone moving so far away from home, Away from family & friends & being with strangers trying to perform at a elite level that is extreme for most. l do hope this young fella can live life & enjoy any type of football in the future. Anxiety is not "Your a mental case" It a bit like being a adrenalin junkie. Some get a rush, Some get fatigued & exhausted without even doing anything & just can't do what their mind wants them too. It's a fear of failure & many other things. Everyone is different & everyone cope's with it in their own way. Everyone in life at some stage will suffer from anxiety which l have myself so l fully understand it. If you get the right help & communicate with many about it, You can live a very normal life. Anxiety / Depression seems to attack many types of people in sports.
This lad needs all the help he can get & it would be very weak & sad for anyone to attack him about what he is going through. The very best in health to you Reece.
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From his previous tweet, it seems he was not a Lids fan. The concept of Lids not being a team player is gaining traction.
I did mention this a number of times previously. Shame we didn't pee B2 off also.
Nothing like taking the word of somebody who for his own sake should probably never been drafted, and obviously doesn't like anybody who has some expectation of him.
To come out and attack the RFC and Dan Richardson like he has is just wrong, but in the present state of mind I'm not sure anybody should give him any credibility
:lol
you do actually read what gets posted here?
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YOU RUINED MY AFL DREAM!!!!!
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Everyone's a psychiatrist.
L M A O
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It's hit the mainstream media tonight:
Former Richmond footballer Reece McKenzie lashes out at the club with no-holds-barred social media rant
news.com.au
November 2, 2016 9:30pm
A YOUNG AFL player, dropped by the Richmond Tigers after just 18 months, has gone on an astonishing social media rant railing against his former club claiming he was mistreated by the footy side and he was now “a broken man”.
On its website, Richmond describes Reece McKenzie as a “young key forward (with) all the physical attributes to make the grade,” but warns he, “needs to keep working on his running ability”.
If that could be conquered, the site says, “the Tigers believe he is capable of being an exciting AFL player.”
But earlier this year, McKenzie retired from the team which Richmond put down to mental health issues with the Tigers wishing him “all the best”.
In his blistering Facebook post, however, Channel 7 reports that McKenzie disputes he retired at all and said he quit, because if had stayed, “I would have killed myself no doubt.”
Here’s the scathing social media post in full.
“When you have intolerable levels of anxiety and depression and have developed an eating disorder causing you to lose all of your friends all because of an incompetent, dysfunctional, joke and embarrassment of a club.
“I didn’t retire from football because of mental health reasons, I quit Richmond, I f***ing quit because if I had continued to receive the treatment that they were giving me I would have killed myself no doubt.
“No person at any profession deserves the treatment I received, they are a disgrace to professional sporting clubs around the world and it’s no wonder they got someone else in to do Dan Richardson’s job because he knows f*** all about football and f*** all about basic human care.
“When I was 16 I tried to commit suicide, but I failed, I failed because in those moment of agony I told myself that I would one day play AFL and that was the only thing that was going to keep me going and then one day I got there only to have my dream taken away by a joke of a club that doesn’t know how to take care of its players.
“I am now a broken man because of this. Football was my life and now I don’t even know if I will ever be able to return to the football field because of my anxiety.
“They even tried to silence me by signing a deed of release that was going to have a silence clause for life but instead I signed one that was for a ‘reasonable period of time’.
“Well you know what, I find it a pretty damn reasonable period of time … f*** you Richmond, thanks for ruining my life, just hope you don’t f*** someone else’s up too.”
Richmond football club has yet to comment.
McKenzie is the son of 1987 Carlton premiership player Warren McKenzie.
If you need help with depression, please see Beyond Blue (https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/national-%20help-lines-%20and-websites) for a list of organisations that can help.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/former-richmond-footballer-reece-mckenzie-lashes-out-at-the-club-with-noholdsbarred-social-media-rant/news-story/a6fc0198029f745d7c2803415ce2ff1e
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Everyone's a psychiatrist.
L M A O
You have an opinion on anything and everything. Why can't others?
The simple fact is that this kid has issues.
BLIND FREDDY CAN SEE THAT.
Don't need a degree as a psychiatrist.
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Connolly: Reaction to McKenzie post must be considered
By Joshua Papanikolaou
SEN
2 November 2016
A facebook post from former Richmond player Reece McKenzie is terribly sad reading and the reaction to his accusations against the Tigers should be carefully articulated, says Rohan Connolly.
The 20-year-old, who retired earlier this year after spending 18 months on the Tigers list, has alleged that the club did not manage his mental illness issues correctly and only made them worse.
“I’ve read the post and when I read it my initial reaction was concern about where he is at right now because there’s a lot of anger there,” said Connolly on SEN radio.
“And a lot of, I wouldn’t call it a cry for attention, but I think it’s someone who is really not in a great place.
“You know if you see this post it makes no bones about sheeting home blame for exacerbating his condition I suppose.
“I agree, I just think we’ve got to be very careful how we talk about it and I feel empathy for him but I… gee from a Richmond Football Club perspective, I’d hope that some of the things that he’s alleged aren’t the case.”
Connolly himself has publicly shared his own troubles with mental health and understands the difficulties everyone associated with a person in such a situation can face.
It was also alleged by McKenzie that he was asked to sign a document meaning he could not talk about his mental health issues publicly.
“I wouldn’t for a moment suggest that I know what he’s going through but yes I’ve had depression,” explained Connolly.
“I can honestly say I’ve never considered taking my life or anything which Reece actually mentions here.
“Well I guess I have more empathy now for people who have to deal with a person with those issues – I ostracised a lot of people close to me and I look back on it now and think I wish I hadn’t done that.
“But in some ways you’re not in the right place to be able to make rational decisions.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/11/02/connolly-reaction-to-mckenzie-post-must-be-considered/
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Everyone's a psychiatrist.
L M A O
You have an opinion on anything and everything. Why can't others?
The simple fact is that this kid has issues.
BLIND FREDDY CAN SEE THAT.
Don't need a degree as a psychiatrist.
Yeh nah you can and you do.....doc.
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It's all very sad
Most clubs shied away from drafting Reece after interviewing him before the draft
Richmond gave him the opportunity and provided support
Club is not to blame in this instance
Don't know where this goes from here
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Doesnt go anywhere stuff him hes gone, we have no duty of care. we are a football club ffs :santa
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Don't know where this goes from here
From the club's perspective it goes nowhere
No point in responding
Best leave it.
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A shame Reece isn't aboriginal.
#Equality.
lol
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It's all very sad
Most clubs shied away from drafting Reece after interviewing him before the draft
Richmond gave him the opportunity and provided support
Club is not to blame in this instance
Don't know where this goes from here
I've got to say I'm not surprised at all.
Maybe Richmond drafted him because he was one of those late Francis Betamax Jackson "specials" he couldn't resist after apparently watching an eye catching highlights vid. :rollin
Did anyone at the club interview him or his club? If we had a competent recruiter we may have passsed on him like every other club did. By recruiting him to a club with an extremely poor useless development (arguably the worst in the AFL) department the club had done this young fellow and his family a disserviceby giving him false hope they could help him.
How many times has our club helped a player improve?
Richmond FC, ruining careers since '83. :clapping
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Nice of the mainstream media publishing his true blood outburst for the world to see, why not see if you can get some shots of him taking a dump to go with the article ?
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lol the last club that could help him develop is us and the we drafted him.
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I dont see the point whacking the club over this.
Kid seems like he really has some demons in his life.
Club did ok keeping a lost cause like Ben Cousins in check ( relatively) for two years.
People have short memories.
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I dont see the point whacking the club over this.
Kid seems like he really has some demons in his life.
Club did ok keeping a lost cause like Ben Cousins in check ( relatively) for two years.
People have short memories.
....and big agendas
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I dont see the point whacking the club over this.
Kid seems like he really has some demons in his life.
Club did ok keeping a lost cause like Ben Cousins in check ( relatively) for two years.
People have short memories.
....and big agendas
:yep
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big sandy vagendas
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I dont see the point whacking the club over this.
Kid seems like he really has some demons in his life.
Club did ok keeping a lost cause like Ben Cousins in check ( relatively) for two years.
People have short memories.
lol Cousins was the master of not getting caught. Don't think we did much here.
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I dont see the point whacking the club over this.
Kid seems like he really has some demons in his life.
Club did ok keeping a lost cause like Ben Cousins in check ( relatively) for two years.
People have short memories.
Cuzzys was more a cover up.
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I dont see the point whacking the club over this.
Kid seems like he really has some demons in his life.
Club did ok keeping a lost cause like Ben Cousins in check ( relatively) for two years.
People have short memories.
lol Cousins was the master of not getting caught. Don't think we did much here.
He has certainly lost that skill now !!!!