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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on February 25, 2016, 03:15:45 AM
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What are your expectations for Macca in 2016 and what would be a good year for him?
Career stats to date:
Games Kicks Hballs Disp. Marks Tackles G.B Clear. In50 Re50 CP UP 1%ers
2015 23 10.5 4.8 15.3 4.1 2.6 8.8 1.1 2.5 2.0 4.4 10.5 1.4
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2508
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2013115
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Although there maybe some who think he needs to win the brownlow or every media award on offer in 2016 to be marked as having improved ;D
I am believe he had a very good first year with it being his first playing at AFL level, helped by no injuries
would like to see more consistency as I reckon he had a lean patch mid season in 2015. But no doubt that will come as the experience grows
Actually think he is one of our best gut runners because he is prepared to run hard both ways. It's one of his strengths.
2nd years are always tough as he is likely to get more attention from the opposition but reckon he is up to it
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I expect him to be bagged
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I expect him to be bagged
And I expect someone to defend him only for them to be bagged also.
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I expect Claw to be disappointed.
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He looked terrible. Bachelor - like
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I expect him to be bagged
And I expect someone to defend him only for them to be bagged also.
:lol :clapping
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He looked terrible. Bachelor - like
Must of been a fluke.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/rising_star_nominations
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Love this
http://youtu.be/8_BYCHCqhsE
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He looked terrible. Bachelor - like
Must of been a fluke.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/rising_star_nominations
"Carlton"
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Not sure about all the Carlton paraphernalia- but nice news story on Kamdyn.
http://youtu.be/nDeuxV8MjKE
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Needs to win the Brownlow to keep claw from posting his negativity! :snide grin
Seriously, all I expect from Kamdyn is the same hard running up and down the wing and delivering the ball into the 50m to the advantage of the leading forwards. I hope he can also up his defensive side and get his tackle numbers up this year.
If he can do these two things, he would have performed his role in the team to perfection. :thumbsup
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Love this
http://youtu.be/8_BYCHCqhsE
That was epic! I do normally prefer players keeping their feet and scooping up the ball but from what I see he was playing to his limitations (which I do respect) and those controlled soccer kicks paid off beautifully
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He has reached glass half full status why have any expectations. Clearly it is a more than adequate place to be for the RFC its players and many of its supporters..
He is a tackling machine, a ball magnet, a contested possession beast A running bouncing rebounding machine, Expectations!!!! what is wrong with you lot, he is already a champ he is top notch in all these things, well lets tone it down a bit about half way there which is clearly good enough.. :snidegrin
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He has reached glass half full status why have any expectations. Clearly it is a more than adequate place to be for the RFC its players and many of its supporters..
He is a tackling machine, a ball magnet, a contested possession beast A running bouncing rebounding machine, Expectations!!!! what is wrong with you lot, he is already a champ he is top notch in all these things, well lets tone it down a bit about half way there which is clearly good enough.. :snidegrin
Yes Claw, when we said that we were pleased with his '15 season, we actually meant that we don't expect or even want him to improve.
Thanks for clearing that up! You are a sharp one!
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He will improve on last year dramatically and over the next few years will become vital to Tigers Winning finals games. Bet ya life on it!
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:banghead :banghead
SNIP
Back to the topic
Keep your feuds off the forum
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If he improves it's a good sign our development program is working. Maybe he is the next Rance, he was ordinary when young.
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Rance was AA u18s
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He has reached glass half full status why have any expectations. Clearly it is a more than adequate place to be for the RFC its players and many of its supporters..
He is a tackling machine, a ball magnet, a contested possession beast A running bouncing rebounding machine, Expectations!!!! what is wrong with you lot, he is already a champ he is top notch in all these things, well lets tone it down a bit about half way there which is clearly good enough.. :snidegrin
Yes Claw, when we said that we were pleased with his '15 season, we actually meant that we don't expect or even want him to improve.
Thanks for clearing that up! You are a sharp one!
Oh so you think he needs to improve, could have fooled me. What areas would you like to see improvement in.
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Snip again
Think ive got it all this time
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What are your expectations for Macca in 2016 and what would be a good year for him?
Career stats to date:
Games Kicks Hballs Disp. Marks Tackles G.B Clear. In50 Re50 CP UP 1%ers
2015 23 10.5 4.8 15.3 4.1 2.6 8.8 1.1 2.5 2.0 4.4 10.5 1.4
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2508
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2013115
To become a good AFL MID/Wingman he needs to consistently produce close to the following. He is a 4TH year player, Basically 22 at the start of the season he simply needs to keep improving.Yes he has played only 23 games and that is where the scope for improvement lies.
Games Kicks Hballs Disp Marks Tackles Goals Clr I/50 C/P UP 1%ers
2016 ?? 11.0 9.0 20.0 5.0 4.0 1.0 3.0 4.0 8.0 12.0 1.4
To me 20 disposals with good game time for a mid is a minimum.
He is a tall lad and good in the air he should be getting his share of marks both in space with the odd contested one.
Tackle count is down he needs to lay more especially if he is only going at 15 disposals a game.
For a running mid somewhere around 15 - 25 goals a season should be expected..
Clr's really needs to improve this area especially for the role he currently performs.
I/50s not good enough for a wingman needs to significantly improve.
C/P'S This is where he improves his disposal numbers he just needs to get more ball for himself.This will allow him to stay involved in games a bit more.
Will he achieve these numbers? i hope so. If he plays every game these numbers at least need to track upwards.
The numbers suggest he needs more consistency,he needs to stay involved in games for longer, he needs to round his game out,
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I'm confused as to what role you think wingers play? They're instructed not to get sucked in to stoppages so they can provide an outlet option. That's why there CP's, and particularly their clearance numbers, are so low.
Issac Smith who I'd describe as a typical wingman (and an above average one at that) averaged 1.6 clearances and 5.4 CP's last year and you expect Kamdyn to almost double those numbers?
There's no question Kamdyn can improve across the board but his numbers are indicative of the role he's being asked to play.
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I'm confused as to what role you think wingers play? They're instructed not to get sucked in to stoppages so they can provide an outlet option. That's why there CP's, and particularly their clearance numbers, are so low.
Issac Smith who I'd describe as a typical wingman (and an above average one at that) averaged 1.6 clearances and 5.4 CP's last year and you expect Kamdyn to almost double those numbers?
There's no question Kamdyn can improve across the board but his numbers are indicative of the role he's being asked to play.
Aha but have you weighted the numbers depending on what team the player is in?
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Snip again
Think ive got it all this time
You could get a job as a mohel the way you're going WP! ;D
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Expectations - not much
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I'm confused as to what role you think wingers play? They're instructed not to get sucked in to stoppages so they can provide an outlet option. That's why there CP's, and particularly their clearance numbers, are so low.
Issac Smith who I'd describe as a typical wingman (and an above average one at that) averaged 1.6 clearances and 5.4 CP's last year and you expect Kamdyn to almost double those numbers?
There's no question Kamdyn can improve across the board but his numbers are indicative of the role he's being asked to play.
Yet a bloke like Grigg goes at those numbers AND HES ORDINARY and very outside. What do you want a well rounded player who can get a bit of ball for himself or a player who is almost totally reliant on others getting the ball to him.
A bloke like Stephen Hill goes at 8 c/ps a game AND YOU DONT GET MORE OUTSIDE THAN HIM. He also gets enough clearances a game at 3.2 to be bothersome.
FFS Branden Ellis went at nearly 7 c/p's a game and had more than double the clearances of McIntosh.
Winger outside player whatever are you really saying just 1 clearance a game is good enough or just 4 contested possesions is as well.. It isnt good enough and it needs to get better. If your only averaging 15 disposals a game the easiest way to improve that is by going and getting the ball for yourself and actually adding to your game making you a better footballer and a harder player to stop.
So he is touching the ball just 15 times a game, he kicks a goal once every three weeks, he kicks the ball inside 50 just 2.5 times a game he lays just 2.6 tackles a game he manages just 1 clearance a game and he gets the ball for himself just 4 times a game and your okay with all this because thats his role. We really are accepting of mediocrity, clearly he needs to do that role much better.
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lol, no one has said anything contrary to that last statement
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Look I am sick of this, just to add some credence to Claw's statements I am going on the record to say that I believe McIntosh is elite, does not have to get better, and in fact I expect him to go slightly backwards in performance but because he is so good will still be in the elite bracket and i am as happy as a pig in poo because of that.
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Santa talked up McIntosh before his debut, when no-one rated him...now that most people seem to rate him, he talks him down....reminds me of those music snob/hipster types who love an obscure band and try to put everyone on to them but then disown them as soon as they become too well known & popular........in other words ...McIntosh like, totally sold out and is like, totally mainstream now, man....
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I picture Clawski typing with a rice milk latte close by
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...on an actual typewriter....
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lol, no one has said anything contrary to that last statement
Is that right yet not one other poster has said exactly what he needs to improve. Pretty pee weak if you ask me to have a go at the only bloke here who is prepared to talk specifics and then sit on the fence and say nothing.But thats what you do isnt it spinelessly sitting on the fence saying nothing of note and taking pot shots.
Cmon show some internet balls for just once alison, put it out there, exactly what is it that you think McIntosh needs to improve.This should be good an actual insight into the guru's footy acumen.
Look I am sick of this, just to add some credence to Claw's statements I am going on the record to say that I believe McIntosh is elite, does not have to get better, and in fact I expect him to go slightly backwards in performance but because he is so good will still be in the elite bracket and i am as happy as a pig in poo because of that.
WOW someone book mark this.Only trouble is ive just wasted precious seconds reading the dribble. little chucky with an actual opinion. Cmon fess up Al told you what to say while you were holding his hot lttle hand after his little sooking bout.
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1. Kickin
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lol, no one has said anything contrary to that last statement
Is that right
yes that is right, no one has said anything contrary to that (without being facetious). I don't stoop to making stuff up just to score cheap shots......
yet not one other poster has said exactly what he needs to improve.
Yest thay have. stop making things up to suit yourself
Pretty pee weak if you ask me to have a go at the only bloke here who is prepared to talk specifics and then sit on the fence and say nothing.But thats what you do isnt it spinelessly sitting on the fence saying nothing of note and taking pot shots.
you cant actually sit without a spine.
Cmon show some internet balls for just once alison, put it out there, exactly what is it that you think McIntosh needs to improve.This should be good an actual insight into the guru's footy acumen.
Males have balls, females dont, so thats as unlikely as sitting without a spine
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lol, no one has said anything contrary to that last statement
Is that right
yes that is right, no one has said anything contrary to that (without being facetious). I don't stoop to making stuff up just to score cheap shots......
yet not one other poster has said exactly what he needs to improve.
Yest thay have. stop making things up to suit yourself
Pretty pee weak if you ask me to have a go at the only bloke here who is prepared to talk specifics and then sit on the fence and say nothing.But thats what you do isnt it spinelessly sitting on the fence saying nothing of note and taking pot shots.
you cant actually sit without a spine.
Cmon show some internet balls for just once alison, put it out there, exactly what is it that you think McIntosh needs to improve.This should be good an actual insight into the guru's footy acumen.
Males have balls, females dont, so thats as unlikely as sitting without a spine
lol you worried people will laugh at you if you put it out there. yep spineless.
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shocker of a game does he put soap on his hands before a game.
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Just looked off the pace tonight like 95% of his teammates.
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Just looked off the pace tonight like 95% of his teammates.
Oh i see an excuse. he was bloody awful!!!!.
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Very poor defensive skills and yes claw had slippery hands.
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Just looks one dimensional as a player.
Can't see him adding anything to his game from last year which is a coaching issue.
I'd get him to tag.
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Just looks one dimensional as a player.
Can't see him adding anything to his game from last year which is a coaching issue.
I'd get him to tag.
Not that I disagree but how exactly is it a coaching issue?
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Just looked off the pace tonight like 95% of his teammates.
Agree with that
He wasn't good, nor was he the worst
Just poor like the majority
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I think we should take this one game of Kmac and use it as Claw's justification of him being a hack
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I think we already have
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He was ordinary but did break the lines a couple of the times in the 2nd half that was critical. Can see where he fits but needs to improve on last night.
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I thought Kamdyn was very good again last night. One of the shinning lights from the first 2 rounds.
HBF is definitely his best position..
He is tough and he gets involved.
We have found one here I recon.
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I thought Kamdyn was very good again last night. One of the shinning lights from the first 2 rounds.
HBF is definitely his best position..
He is tough and he gets involved.
We have found one here I recon.
Agreed. He is a line breaker.
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Much better game that is the level he needs to play at at all times. No soap hands and plenty of involvement and shock of all shocks off h/b.None of this praising him up for poor games the bar is set he needs to stay there.
Unlike many on here some of us have the bar set where it should be and expect good performances from players every week. .Someone knew right from the start where he should be played ;).
Still parts of his game need work.
He could possibly play kpd on smaller tall fwds like Gunston or Stringer if developed properly and still provide plenty of rebound. that should be the aim imo.
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4 CP's and 1 tackle enough?
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not bad for a first year player
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not bad for a first year player
1st year player. Is this your 1st year as a supporter :snidegrin
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Was great last night. His foot skills are quite good even though his action looks pretty ugly. Hits them hard.
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Was great last night. His foot skills are quite good even though his action looks pretty ugly. Hits them hard.
His not too bright at times under pressure. Make some terrible decisions
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Was great last night. His foot skills are quite good even though his action looks pretty ugly. Hits them hard.
His not too bright at times under pressure. Make some terrible decisions
Decision making isn't his best attribute but his mistakes aren't the kind that me cringe. He's normally trying to do something positive (ie run forward).
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I thought Kamdyn was very good again last night. One of the shinning lights from the first 2 rounds.
HBF is definitely his best position..
He is tough and he gets involved.
We have found one here I recon.
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4 CP's and 1 tackle enough?
nope they remain areas that needs to improve.I think he needs to be more accountable and needs to work on his kicking as well.Hence the comment, still parts of his game need work.