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Title: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Chuck17 on March 15, 2016, 10:36:08 AM
Alex Rance is considered the best KPD in the league by most RFC supporters and by all the rest of the AFL community but I am wondering where he is placed of the RFC's KPD's since WW2.
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: mat073 on March 15, 2016, 01:43:34 PM
Fred Swift - premiership captain in 1967 ....also had a "Leo Barry" moment during the game.

Barry Richardson - 3 X premiership player.

Darren Gasper - dual All Australian with a wonky boot. Never reached the heights of 2001 again.

Turner - thug but played his best game when it counted in a semi final against Essendon. I can still hear Ian Roberton screaming "TURNER" !!!!!

Rance - Dual All Australian , to quote Bruce - A colossus is Rance . The sky is the limit.

1) Richardson
2) Swift
3) Rance
4) Gasper
5) Turner.



Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on March 15, 2016, 01:58:28 PM
No Royce Vardy or Jarrod Sylvester?
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Chuck17 on March 15, 2016, 02:18:02 PM
Probably should have put Chaplin up as well
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: mat073 on March 15, 2016, 02:22:14 PM
It warms the heart to remember young Will Thursfield getting carved up by Brendon Fevola.

We really have come a long way.
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 15, 2016, 04:06:21 PM
Paul Bullus?
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Stalin on March 15, 2016, 04:16:32 PM
It warms the heart to remember young Will Thursfield getting carved up by Brendon Fevola.

We really have come a long way.

Fev would kick 8 on Chappy If he was playing r1
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: JP Tiger on March 15, 2016, 04:27:58 PM
Dick Clay & Francis Bourke deserve a mention.  Two former wingers who dropped back into defence late in their careers.  Both were tough as nails & personified the phrase 'Tiger Tough', both played with incredible grit & determination.  They both utterly despised getting beaten & would find a way to either out-muscle or out-think their opponents, it was like watching stone wheels grinding flour!  At times they would both get flogged early in a match, but during the second half they always fought back & got their opponents measure.  Some of the great memories include the epic battles like Clay Vs Len Thompson & Bourke Vs Jesaulenko!  Dick Clay did it hard in his day - Hudson one week, McKenna the next, then Wade or Newman next.  Some of the Bourke Vs Blight battles in the late 70's were just so good!  Our boys always did us proud.  These were the blokes who made us 'Tiger Tough'!   
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Stalin on March 15, 2016, 04:29:36 PM
How would rance have gone on plugger Carey Ablett?

Would of smashed em  :shh
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Diocletian on March 15, 2016, 04:29:58 PM
It warms the heart to remember young Will Thursfield getting carved up by Brendon Fevola.

We really have come a long way.

 Go back & watch his 2008 season again, troll boy. Superior actual defending than anything Chaplin's ever served up.
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: mat073 on March 15, 2016, 04:55:55 PM
It warms the heart to remember young Will Thursfield getting carved up by Brendon Fevola.

We really have come a long way.

 Go back & watch his 2008 season again, troll boy. Superior actual defending than anything Chaplin's ever served up.

http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2009/031420090711.html
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: mat073 on March 15, 2016, 05:01:52 PM
Would rather Grimes Rance Chaplin to Thursfield Moore Mcguane any day of the week.
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Diocletian on March 15, 2016, 05:03:49 PM
It warms the heart to remember young Will Thursfield getting carved up by Brendon Fevola.

We really have come a long way.

 Go back & watch his 2008 season again, troll boy. Superior actual defending than anything Chaplin's ever served up.

http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2009/031420090711.html

What part of "his 2008 season" didn't you understand, protected troll boy?

Would back Thursty at his best in a one on one contest v any decent sized key forward over Chaplin every day. Hell, Chaplin can barely handle undersized & medium forwards...

Would rather Grimes Rance Chaplin to Thursfield Moore Mcguane any day of the week.

Who's talking about all three? Obviously Rance & Grimes are far superior to Moore & McGoof.
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: mat073 on March 15, 2016, 05:25:24 PM
2008 another false dawn where we finished 9th in a 16 team competition.

And I thought you didn't like mediocrity.
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: mat073 on March 15, 2016, 05:29:32 PM
We had the 12th most miserly defence in 2008.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ladder?year=2008&pt=SE&st=SE&sb=a


But if anyone wants to compare that with last year....

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ladder?year=2015&pt=SE&st=SE&sb=a
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Diocletian on March 15, 2016, 05:56:12 PM
2008 another false dawn where we finished 9th in a 16 team competition.

And I thought you didn't like mediocrity.

We had the 12th most miserly defence in 2008.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ladder?year=2008&pt=SE&st=SE&sb=a


But if anyone wants to compare that with last year....

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ladder?year=2015&pt=SE&st=SE&sb=a

So let's recap, shall we?

I mention Thursfield's 2008 season, you're reply is to post a link to the stats for one match of said player from 2009.

I say Thursfield at his best was better defender than Chaplin , you respond by  bringing up Rance & Grimes and saying that together with Chaplin they are better than Thursfield was together with the also hitherto unmentioned Moore & McGuane.

After I reiterate that Thursfield at his best was better than Chaplin but also back your -frankly irrelevant- assertion Rance & Grimes are better than Moore & McGuane, you respond by talking about Richmond's 9th placing in Thursfield's best year as if that was somehow down to Thursfield and equate it to me endorsing mediocrity...you then talk about where our entire defence ranked in Thursfield's best year as if again, it's somehow proof of his individual performance and despite me already conceding that at least two of Thursfield's team mates in defence that year were nowhere near as good as Chaplin's current team mates.

In sum - I think it's fair to say that you're really not very good at this as comprehension is clearly not your strong suit, and it's best you quit while you're behind.
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: mat073 on March 15, 2016, 06:48:59 PM
Will"s the best 191 cm/ 85 kg fullback we have ever had...we certainly have no need for the 195 cm/ 97 kg Troy. Bye bye Troy.

Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: mat073 on March 15, 2016, 07:10:53 PM
All players have these "brain farts"

https://youtu.be/paYwoFF_PyY

didn't do too badly here
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on March 15, 2016, 07:51:11 PM
Sylvester deserves a mention.
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 15, 2016, 09:21:25 PM
None.

How Jon Howat has missed out is beyond me. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 15, 2016, 09:38:36 PM
Michael Laffy, Des Ryan, Peter Mcormack, Jeff Hogg the list is endless, it's depth of talent bottomless.
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Damo on March 15, 2016, 09:46:42 PM

So let's recap, shall we?

I mention Thursfield's 2008 season, you're reply is to post a link to the stats for one match of said player from 2009.

I say Thursfield at his best was better defender than Chaplin , you respond by  bringing up Rance & Grimes and saying that together with Chaplin they are better than Thursfield was together with the also hitherto unmentioned Moore & McGuane.

After I reiterate that Thursfield at his best was better than Chaplin but also back your -frankly irrelevant- assertion Rance & Grimes are better than Moore & McGuane, you respond by talking about Richmond's 9th placing in Thursfield's best year as if that was somehow down to Thursfield and equate it to me endorsing mediocrity...you then talk about where our entire defence ranked in Thursfield's best year as if again, it's somehow proof of his individual performance and despite me already conceding that at least two of Thursfield's team mates in defence that year were nowhere near as good as Chaplin's current team mates.

In sum - I think it's fair to say that you're really not very good at this as comprehension is clearly not your strong suit, and it's best you quit while you're behind.

Post of 2016
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: tdy on March 15, 2016, 10:46:45 PM
Our glorious leader Benny Gale spent many a year at half back when he was young.  Got flogged a lot but then the whole team did.
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: mat073 on March 15, 2016, 11:23:00 PM
Having a debate on who is a better defender - Chaplin or Thursfield  , is a little like debating who is better looking - Bette Mitler or Rosie O Donnell .
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Diocletian on March 16, 2016, 12:14:38 AM
Bette Midler at least has some vaguely sexy moments in The Rose, whilst Rosie O'Donnell's never been anything but hideous and fat...
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Petey on March 16, 2016, 04:54:38 AM
that just means you accept mediocrity
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Diocletian on March 16, 2016, 11:01:26 AM
Key word there was "vaguely"......but then again, some say love, it is a river....

(http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/c39882af2f744927acfc000a7040fb62/the-rose-year-1979-usa-director-mark-rydell-bette-midler-f65yp7.jpg)
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 16, 2016, 06:52:04 PM
2008 another false dawn where we finished 9th in a 16 team competition.

And I thought you didn't like mediocrity.

Whenever the mediocrity argument suits  :huh

You know that's gonna come back to bite
Title: Re: Who is RFC's best KPD post WW2?
Post by: Willy on March 17, 2016, 11:11:57 AM
Man, this RCGG vs pessimist / positive v negative thing is getting boring.

Not everyone falls into these categories. Let's just debate each topic on its merit for a while without brining this poo up. All threads are starting to smell the same.