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Title: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on March 18, 2016, 01:25:26 PM
Cotchin open to playing a tag role

Herald-Sun
March 18,2016



TRENT Cotchin says he is open to playing a run-with role at stages this season, if it helps the club progress towards its elusive first finals win in 15 years.

Former Tiger star Matthew Richardson said on 3AW this week that he would like to see Cotchin take on a few tagging roles this season, to add an extra string to his capabilities.

“Yeah, I am open to anything,” Cotchin said of Richardson’s suggestion.

“I think the great thing about our group now is that if you are given a role before the game, a lot of us stick to it.

“If that goes a long way to us winning games of footy, I think everyone will put their hands up.”

Cotchin said he was prepared to do whatever it takes to expunge the pain from last year’s elimination final loss to North Melbourne, and his own poor performance that day.

He came in for heavy criticism after the Tigers’ third straight elimination final loss, with some questioning if he was the right man for the captaincy.

Cotchin, 26 next month, said the external criticism hadn’t fazed him, but that he had worked exceptionally hard over summer to be the best he can be in 2016.

“Everyone has their opinion, footy is a big sport, (so) there is a lot of commentators and media personalities out there, and that’s the reality of the game,” he said.

“If it (the criticism) hurt, I would probably be hiding under a rock.”

“I have got the people that I trust and speak to day to day, whether they are at the footy club or it may be as simple as my dad.

“The reality is that everyone has their own form of leading. I see leadership as something that has to come naturally, but it is also something that happens over time.”

Cotchin expects a young, enthusiastic Carlton to provide a serious challenge next Thursday night in the AFL season-opener at the MCG.

“It’s Round 1, they’ve got a new coach and a lot of new faces, so we are looking forward to the occasion,” he said.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/trent-cotchin-says-hes-open-to-playing-a-tagging-role-this-season/news-story/90db7f4478f1af18825c7bf364585129
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: mat073 on March 18, 2016, 01:30:20 PM
Maybe Cotch is open to the role of  replacing  Chaplin at CHB  :snidegrin ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on March 18, 2016, 01:35:56 PM
Short staffed and under-qualified.
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on March 18, 2016, 01:40:55 PM
Cotchin > grigg
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on March 18, 2016, 01:50:21 PM
Memo to club: Don't hire M. Richardson as a midfield coach. Thank You.
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 18, 2016, 01:59:10 PM
He can jump higher than Maric. :shh

Maybe ruckman? What do you think Richo?
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on March 18, 2016, 02:05:02 PM
Bo can jump higher than Maric....
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 18, 2016, 02:07:18 PM
Bo can jump higher than Maric....
And he has hands like a venus fly trap! :lol
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Tazzytiger on March 18, 2016, 06:54:50 PM
Not as silly as it sounds. tag the tagger. free someone else up. we're not a one horse wagon hopefully
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on March 18, 2016, 06:57:17 PM
Not as silly as it sounds. tag the tagger. free someone else up. we're not a one horse wagon hopefully

Correct. And it takes grigg out of the 22

Gives vlastuin, miles, Corey Ellis more mins too inside at the coalface

And we always get thumped by selwoods dangerfield types. Cotchin might beat em as well. Id back him in. Lol at the idiots thy reckon grigg break even with the like f Ablett
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 18, 2016, 07:16:59 PM
Not as silly as it sounds. tag the tagger. free someone else up. we're not a one horse wagon hopefully

Correct. And it takes grigg out of the 22

Gives vlastuin, miles, Corey Ellis more mins too inside at the coalface

And we always get thumped by selwoods dangerfield types. Cotchin might beat em as well. Id back him in. Lol at the idiots thy reckon grigg break even with the like f Ablett

Who is fablett?
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: big tone on March 19, 2016, 10:23:21 AM
Yer put one of your best players and best midfielder as a dirty tagger. Especially when we are about 3 genuine mids short.  :help
Would play him as deep forward more and more if he is getting beaten in the middle. Very good mark overhead for a player of his size.
He could be very damaging as long as they isolate him.
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on March 19, 2016, 12:04:10 PM
Not as silly as it sounds. tag the tagger. free someone else up. we're not a one horse wagon hopefully

Correct. And it takes grigg out of the 22

Gives vlastuin, miles, Corey Ellis more mins too inside at the coalface

And we always get thumped by selwoods dangerfield types. Cotchin might beat em as well. Id back him in. Lol at the idiots thy reckon grigg break even with the like f Ablett

Who is fablett?

It's slang for whenever the commentators fap over Ablett......
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on March 19, 2016, 12:40:11 PM
If Cotchin becomes a tagger does that mean he won't do those bloody infuriating dinky 20 metre kicks anymore? Will he able to embarrass the best midfielders in the league by reducing their total possessions to only 9 especially if we are playing a final against them?
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Heart of Darkness on March 20, 2016, 11:17:23 AM
Cotchin hunts the ball. Telling him to tag and play against his instincts is stupid. Won't happen.
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: lamington on March 20, 2016, 01:08:53 PM
i think the odd appearance as a tagger is not that bad of an idea. I recall Deledio was used as a tagger for Mundy a couple of years back when we lost to Freo by 1 point?

Also Bartel was used as a tagger on Lenny Hayes in the 09 GF and that worked beautifully.

Am i advocating Cotch to be a permanent tagger? Of course not, but now and again to mix it up and throw off opposition coaches (this plan B we all pray for) I think is not that horrible of an idea
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 20, 2016, 02:59:50 PM
Anything to win that "one final" aye boys
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 20, 2016, 03:03:06 PM
If Cotchin becomes a tagger does that mean he won't do those bloody infuriating dinky 20 metre kicks anymore? Will he able to embarrass the best midfielders in the league by reducing their total possessions to only 9 especially if we are playing a final against them?

Perhaps. Think it will take 9 losses before we win one

6 to go

Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on March 20, 2016, 04:53:54 PM
Six years of coaching and dimmer still doesn't know how to play his lads.

Seriously worst coach going around.
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: JP Tiger on March 20, 2016, 05:16:47 PM
I see this as a thinly disguised way of taking Cotch out of the centre square at times.  The current trend of using 195cm+ midfielders is something we struggle to handle when we line up with smaller players like Dusty, Miles, Cotch or Titch in the square.  Norf got to us by putting as many big bodied players in the square as possible for the bounce (Zeibel & Cunnington types), then a designated hard tag on Cotch finished the job.  Meanwhile, their smaller players like Harvey & Nahas never got anywhere near the square!  WC & Whoreforn were even using their resting ruck as a midfielder before they rotated them off - Roughead & NicNat proved to be pretty handy midfielders in the square for a few bounces before they go off.  Size is hard to combat at a bounce, all you can do is to put your big guys in there too.  We need to experiment with some larger guys going into the square for a few bounces.  Rance?  Batchelor?  Townsend?  Moore?  Vickery?  I dunno, but we need a plan B that involves some big bodies at the bounce.               
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on March 20, 2016, 05:21:27 PM
Rance needs to stay back

Bachelor? By jingos
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on March 20, 2016, 05:34:42 PM
Cotch can tag his tagger.

Brilliant.
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: JP Tiger on March 20, 2016, 07:17:22 PM
Rance needs to stay back

Bachelor? By jingos
But if Rance helps us to win the clearance he isn't needed in defence immediately.  He can always go into the middle for the bounce & then slide back afterwards.  I didn't say this was a permanent set up, just a plan B, a roll of the dice option used at key moments.  It might open a door for Elton too.  Sydney are looking at using Franklin as a midfielder & Adelaide are thinking about Tex going in there too - when they do Rance can just go with them!  Its adapt or die, so what are your plans then? 
Batchelor - why not?  You don't need to be a Brownlow Medalist to smash into one! 
Or just sit back & watch the likes of Fyfe, Kennedy (Syd), Ziebel, Cunnington, Pavlich, Franklin, NicNat & Roughead continue to monster our smaller midfielders at bounces.  Your choice ... Oh & don't forget to include your plan ... ok?       
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on March 20, 2016, 07:34:17 PM
martin 88kg
deledio 89kg
vlastuin is a solid kid



Mcintosh, Kamdyn
192cm   91kg

townsend 89kg

you'd have more chance beating fyfe with cotchin on him than grigg, imho

id like to see vickery in the ruck more. 100kg

he has the agility to impact more contests than the slowing maric
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 20, 2016, 07:45:57 PM
The slowing Maric is even slower as he is carrying an injury but will he played up forward.  :shh
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tony_montana on March 20, 2016, 10:02:36 PM
Not tagging but going head to head against the oppositions best mid
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: JP Tiger on March 20, 2016, 11:41:03 PM
martin 88kg
deledio 89kg
vlastuin is a solid kid



Mcintosh, Kamdyn
192cm   91kg

townsend 89kg

you'd have more chance beating fyfe with cotchin on him than grigg, imho

id like to see vickery in the ruck more. 100kg

he has the agility to impact more contests than the slowing maric
Right, good to see a plan!  McIntosh, Townsend & Vlaus have more chance against the monsters than Miles, Dusty, Cotch, Lids & Titch do.  Yes to Vickery rucking.  Now that Norf did it so successfully against us expect other sides to try it too.  Every side was trying to find their version of that formula last year, its a tactic with merit, especially against smaller midfielders like ours!  Some mids might need to find new roles, we might even find ways to hurt the opposition even more while their big monster forward is in the middle.  The monster forward turned midfielder can't be in two places at once, lets look to exploit them when they sacrifice their forward structure!  Cotch just might end up tagging ...  & carving them up on the rebound!     
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Yeahright on March 21, 2016, 06:27:37 PM
Six years of coaching and dimmer still doesn't know how to play his lads.

Seriously worst coach going around.

 :'( :'( :'( Anything to pot the coach although he had absolutely nothing to do with this article or anything said in this article.
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Yeahright on March 21, 2016, 06:31:55 PM
smaller players like Dusty, Miles, Cotch or Titch in the square.  Norf got to us by putting as many big bodied players in the square as possible for the bounce (Zeibel & Cunnington types),

Ben Cunnington = 185cm 86kg
Dusty = 187cm 86kg
Cotchin = 185cm 84kg
Admittedly Miles and Titch are a bit smaller but I don't think Cunnington is as big as you think. Ziebell isn't even that much bigger than Dusty at 188cm and 86kg. Deledio (who spends less and less time there) is 188cm and 88kgs
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Willy on March 21, 2016, 06:52:09 PM
Surely Cunnington is taller than Cotch?
Title: Re: Cotchin open to playing a tag role .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on March 21, 2016, 07:36:45 PM
smaller players like Dusty, Miles, Cotch or Titch in the square.  Norf got to us by putting as many big bodied players in the square as possible for the bounce (Zeibel & Cunnington types),

Ben Cunnington = 185cm 86kg
Dusty = 187cm 86kg
Cotchin = 185cm 84kg
Admittedly Miles and Titch are a bit smaller but I don't think Cunnington is as big as you think. Ziebell isn't even that much bigger than Dusty at 188cm and 86kg. Deledio (who spends less and less time there) is 188cm and 88kgs

Swallow isn't huge either