One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: froars on June 08, 2004, 08:38:38 PM
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Does anyone think there is any reason why Beck shouldn't get the big A at the end of this season?
Without going thru all the dud trades 'cos i'm too lazy to and there's just too many, i can't see how he can last.
If he doesn't last, who do the club rely on to get the info on potential players? Wouldn't it have been better to sack Beck early this year and get in a new recruiting team. Or do we have to wait till the end of the November draft and allow him to have another say this year and then give him the heave ho?
Anyone out there have a clue what would happen
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I mentioned this previously.Beck must go.Im stumped at him being in this position for so long.
How did he get this job in the first place?
Could anyone enlighten me on his credentials?
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I beleive the club has restructed its recruiting as it has been left to to few in the past. Greg has been in recruiting for 10 years, was at Collingwood before Richmond.
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Basically, what i'm asking is will they rely on Beck's judgement yet again this draft period?
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No, I beleive that Greg Miller and a group of 6-7 others are there to assist
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Phew lol ;D
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The last 8 years of the draft,Richmond have been the worst performed side in the competition and the stewardship of Greg Beck has seen the club draft appaulingly.
Our first and second round choices by Beck and his scouts have been glaring failures when we needed them most.
He along with Casey and Frawley are why we are so pathetic at present.
All 3 should pack up and pee off from punt rd at the end of the season.
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Can't agree more on this one! Becks got to go, Ive never know anyone to be so bad in a position, and for so long and still be plying his trade!
I can see him now whispering in Millers ear. "I know of a couple of left footers that show promise that should be drafted."
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Agree our recruiting hasn't been flash so the heat should be on Beck.
Identifying the top 10 or 20 talents is almost redundant because everyone knows who they are anyway by draft camp. Identifying the best talent for the positional players required by the club should be what he is judged on imo. His record of success is not good.
I don't think he should be blamed for instances such as Pavlich/Fiora if the football department chose the talent seen to be best for the team's needs at the time rather than the best talent.
Not sure if this actually happened, but it could be that Beck is good at his job and has multiple sets of criteria to identify talent and the wrong criteria is being used to actually select.
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why do we still have Beck when we have Miller now?
Or is Beck now Miller's lap dog who grabs a coffee and cream bun for him in the mornings?
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Hello all, first time poster on OER. Have been hammering PRE for a while now, but this site is just as good so why not do both!!
I can assure you that Beck will not continue past this national draft.
Recruiting blunders are well noted within the club and will cost Beck his job.
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welcome aboard Tivva!!
i will be the one giving beck the bronx cheers the day he is told his time is up at Punt Road.
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Beck might have some competition as worst recruiting guy ever.... :lol
Jordan acknowledges mistakes, confident in future of Bobcats
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Michael Jordan's resume as an executive has long been tarnished by the name Kwame Brown, his much-maligned choice with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2001 draft when he ran the Washington Wizards.
Seven years later, he now has to live with another failed decision: Adam Morrison, Jordan's first draft pick with the Charlotte Bobcats. After not living up to expectations, Jordan traded the No. 3 overall selection in 2006 to the Los Angeles Lakers over the weekend.
In a rare conference call with reporters Tuesday, Jordan owned up to the mistakes, but insisted other moves he's made as managing partner of the Bobcats have positioned the struggling franchise to compete long-term.
"I think we've grown from it. I've grown from it and hopefully down the road when you make a choice, you try to make a better choice," Jordan said from Chicago, where he still lives after winning six NBA titles as a player with the Bulls. "People are going to point out the mistakes. Very rarely do they point out the successes. I understand that. It's part of the game."
Jordan's Bobcats have been the NBA's most active team this season. After luring Hall of Fame coach Larry Brown out of his two-year exile following a bungled season in New York, Jordan has teamed with his tinkering coach to pull off three trades and use a league-high 23 players.
The last deal, sending Morrison and reserve guard Shannon Brown to the Lakers on Saturday for reserve forward Vladimir Radmanovic, was an acknowledgment of error. Months after becoming a part-owner with the final say on basketball decisions, Jordan took Morrison ahead of Rudy Gay and Brandon Roy.
The former Gonzaga star, who missed all of last season with a knee injury, did little with Charlotte and didn't fit into Brown's system.
"Coming off an injury last year, he seemed to have lost his confidence a little bit," Jordan said. "He didn't have the understanding of how Larry expected him to play both offensively and defensively. And I felt like something needed to happen for Adam as well as the organization."
While Morrison joins Kwame Brown as the picks that critics point to and suggest Jordan's a failure as a talent evaluator, Jordan chuckles that little is said about taking point guard D.J. Augustin with the ninth pick in last year's draft. Augustin is having an impressive rookie season.
"It's a gamble," Jordan said. "Even with Kwame Brown. If we don't take Kwame Brown at No. 1, he's going at 2. No matter how you look at it, everybody had him on their radar as being the top pick. We just so happened to be the top pick and we chose him. It didn't pan out and we take the brunt of that. We understand that. It's the risk that you take."
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/02/10/jordan.ap/index.html?rss=true
Although i'm not sure if Beck was involved in the 2004 draft, it sounds very similar to taking Tambling over Franklin. Tambling was rated a possible number 1 pick at times, if we didn't get him he'd have gone at pick 5.
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Although i'm not sure if Beck was involved in the 2004 draft, it sounds very similar to taking Tambling over Franklin. Tambling was rated a possible number 1 pick at times, if we didn't get him he'd have gone at pick 5.
Beck left just after the 2004 draft IIRC. Fiora or JON would be our Kwame Brown.
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Fiora or JON would be our Kwame Brown.
Fiora will always be the judgement error in RFC drafting history.
One word, a KPP forward that has 5 AA's, 3 B&F's, 4 Leading Goalkicking awards, not to mention the twin forward potential with Richo - all before he was 26.
Pavlich.
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Fiora or JON would be our Kwame Brown.
Fiora will always be the judgement error in RFC drafting history.
One word, a KPP forward that has 5 AA's, 3 B&F's, 4 Leading Goalkicking awards, not to mention the twin forward potential with Richo - all before he was 26.
Pavlich.
Yep we mistakenly went for "need" over best available. The criticism of Richmond at that time was we played on passion but not with much skill or run. Having Ottens and Richo on our list we must have thought we were okay for tall forwards and went for a "skillful" mid who turned out to be just another flanker. It was an odd draft. Plenty of failures in the first round but also some really good players too. Geelong killed that draft getting Corey (pick 8), Chapman and Enright who we all bypassed as well :P.