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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 10, 2016, 02:57:02 PM
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Dimma's post-match presser:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-04-09/round-3-hardwick-postmatch
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RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has made the surprising admission the Tigers must go back to go forwards as their season threatens to spiral out of control.
Richmond was brutally swept aside by Adelaide at Etihad Stadium, slipping to 1-2 ahead of a daunting assignment against West Coast in Perth on Friday night.
The club then gagged its players — banning them from speaking to the media after the game.
Hardwick, in his seventh year as Tigers coach and desperate to guide the club to its first finals win since 2001, said Richmond needed to take “a half step back”.
“Look, this side isn’t the same as last year. We are trialling some blokes in some different positions,” Hardwick said.
“We might have to take a little half step back to go two steps forward, but I’m very confident we will take the two steps forward.
“(Kamdyn) McIntosh down back, I think we’ve found a player. We probably hoped to get more out of a couple of other guys tonight.
“The general core is there, we’re just adding some general pieces around that puzzle at the moment, which we feel will take us forward. It hasn’t worked out at the moment, but we’re very confident we’ll get the desired result.
“We’ve been found short the last three years so we’ve got to find the next tier that we think will take us to the next level. It might be ... a speed bump here and there, but the aim is to go forward.”
Richmond was scorched by the Crows’ transition power. Hardwick watched as his side gathered 41 more possessions, 12 more contested marks, won contested ball and tackles, but was made to pay severely for its glut of turnovers.
Hardwick said Richmond’s skills were not up to standard and “hurting us at the moment”.
A loss to the Eagles would sink the Tigers to 1-3 and force them to play catch-up for the third consecutive year in a bid to play finals.
Hardwick acknowledged basic mistakes by hand and foot had been a recurring early-season trend.
“Stock standard for us isn’t it? Starting like this? It’s disappointing,” he said.
“Our offence is killing our defence at the moment. We’ve gone through it at various stages and we’ll undoubtedly go through it again at some stage, but for us we think that while it’s frustrating it’s an easy fix.
“The skill execution ... we just need to work on and get better. We’ve got players who are good users at the ball not using it like they should.
“We’ve been here before”.
Hardwick described next week’s trip to Perth to play West Coast off a six-day break as the best situation he could hope for.
“Funnily enough, it’s a bit of a Godsend really. Our players get to go away as a unit, I couldn’t ask for anything better to be perfectly honest,” he said.
“We travel well as a side, we play well at Subiaco and we give ourselves every chance versus the Eagles over there.”
Ivan Maric (back) will play 80 minutes in the VFL on Sunday. Hardwick said Brett Deledio (quad) was still only a “slim” chance to return after kicking for the first time on Saturday.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/winning-and-losing-coaches-have-their-say-after-saturdays-round-3-games/news-story/0974928f839b4800beeeda33c372eb6d
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-09/tigers-stuff
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:chuck :facepalm
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RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has made the surprising admission the Tigers must go back to go forwards as their season threatens to spiral out of control.
Richmond was brutally swept aside by Adelaide at Etihad Stadium, slipping to 1-2 ahead of a daunting assignment against West Coast in Perth on Friday night.
The club then gagged its players — banning them from speaking to the media after the game.
Hardwick, in his seventh year as Tigers coach and desperate to guide the club to its first finals win since 2001, said Richmond needed to take “a half step back”.
“Look, this side isn’t the same as last year. We are trialling some blokes in some different positions,” Hardwick said.
“We might have to take a little half step back to go two steps forward, but I’m very confident we will take the two steps forward.
“(Kamdyn) McIntosh down back, I think we’ve found a player. We probably hoped to get more out of a couple of other guys tonight.
“The general core is there, we’re just adding some general pieces around that puzzle at the moment, which we feel will take us forward. It hasn’t worked out at the moment, but we’re very confident we’ll get the desired result.
“We’ve been found short the last three years so we’ve got to find the next tier that we think will take us to the next level. It might be ... a speed bump here and there, but the aim is to go forward.”
Richmond was scorched by the Crows’ transition power. Hardwick watched as his side gathered 41 more possessions, 12 more contested marks, won contested ball and tackles, but was made to pay severely for its glut of turnovers.
Hardwick said Richmond’s skills were not up to standard and “hurting us at the moment”.
A loss to the Eagles would sink the Tigers to 1-3 and force them to play catch-up for the third consecutive year in a bid to play finals.
Hardwick acknowledged basic mistakes by hand and foot had been a recurring early-season trend.
“Stock standard for us isn’t it? Starting like this? It’s disappointing,” he said.
“Our offence is killing our defence at the moment. We’ve gone through it at various stages and we’ll undoubtedly go through it again at some stage, but for us we think that while it’s frustrating it’s an easy fix.
“The skill execution ... we just need to work on and get better. We’ve got players who are good users at the ball not using it like they should.
“We’ve been here before”.
Hardwick described next week’s trip to Perth to play West Coast off a six-day break as the best situation he could hope for.
“Funnily enough, it’s a bit of a Godsend really. Our players get to go away as a unit, I couldn’t ask for anything better to be perfectly honest,” he said.
“We travel well as a side, we play well at Subiaco and we give ourselves every chance versus the Eagles over there.”
Ivan Maric (back) will play 80 minutes in the VFL on Sunday. Hardwick said Brett Deledio (quad) was still only a “slim” chance to return after kicking for the first time on Saturday.
Highlighted sentences reek of a coach who has not progressed this side, put the cream on top or who has a game plan that is working with the crop we have. The players have no idea what is going on either, on or off the field.These comments are biggest load of crap I have heard.
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Stock standard for us isn’t it? Starting like this? It’s disappointing,” he said.
What a stuffing joke to say this.....
When you're the problem.
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Good to see Hawks, Swans, Cats taking a back step to go forward
Phew thought we were the only ones
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The things being said spell panic to me. Playing group and coach are being divided
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We're back in Frawley mode.
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Not a lot in this, he is basically saying this is a rebuild year
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He clarified it on 3AW by saying within the next 3-4 weeks
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Not a lot in this, he is basically saying this is a rebuild year
Not a lot in this, so they need a rebuild.
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:clapping :clapping :clapping.....love it. A rebuild year from the nuffers in a year we should be top 4.... :lol :lol :lol
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Much like our players running hard both ways, I can't be arsed looking it up, but didn't someone here predict he'd say that shyte about it being good for the group to go away next week?
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Much like our players running hard both ways, I can't be arsed looking it up, but didn't someone here predict he'd say that shyte about it being good for the group to go away next week?
"Funnily enough, it’s a bit of a Godsend really. Our players get to go away as a unit, I couldn’t ask for anything better to be perfectly honest,” he said.
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Um yes....that's the comment I was referring to........
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A similar fate awaits...
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At least he is changing personal over. Trying new people in new positions. We won't win the flag playing as we were last year.
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At least he is changing personal over. Trying new people in new positions. We won't win the flag playing as we were last year.
:facepalm
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Whats the point of it when he doesn't even have a flexible game plan other than get the ball and spread out.
It's like giving a new set of crayons to a thalidomide
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We wouldn't have found Lambert or found out that C Ellis is lacking a ball magnet without this period. Sure it's a crappie game style but other teams have won premiership with similar. The Swans in 2005. The Hawks have kicked through traffic under Clarkson forever. We just do it badly and slowly and it's awful to watch. It like soccer to watch but hey its won more games for HW than Wallace or Frawley or the Geisch or any Tiger coach back to 82. The exceptions being 95 and 2001.
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This is pretty much confirmation that Dimma is doing the right thing and blooding the kids in this rebuild phase
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and that he blew the first five years out his hole
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This is pretty much confirmation that Dimma is doing the right thing and blooding the kids in this rebuild phase
I think the rebuild comments across all threads, 20 odd times has done its job....move on. :snidegrin
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and that he blew the first five years out his behindhole
yet he still gives T-HUNT types and Grigg types contract extensions, but now wants us to believe its a mini rebuild.
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and that he blew the first five years out his behindhole
yet he still gives T-HUNT types and Grigg types contract extensions, but now wants us to believe its a mini rebuild.
Yep
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This is pretty much confirmation that Dimma is doing the right thing and blooding the kids in this rebuild phase
I think the rebuild comments across all threads, 20 odd times has done its job....move on. :snidegrin
Just trying to explain things so people understand what is happening
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Adding some kids to what should be a decent list is hardly a stuffn rebuild,well
it might be for hardwick but most other coaches seem to be able to bring in young blood and not to the detriment of the current playing group or the perceived standard.
It's another example of him not being able to handle yet another part of his job.
He's great at rubbishting everyone and casting doubt into the average mind, with his subtle explanations of what everybody else is not doing but enough is enough.
His spin doctoring has eclipsed Wallace yet still people buy into it.
Personally I can't accept that three consecutive elimination finals losses constitutes a new two year contract befire the first game of the stuffn season.
Hardwick is continually being nurtured by the club.A club of softies.
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Not too sure if you understand what a rebuild is
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What trying half a dozen new players is a rebuild? Wow what was 2010 when we recruited 14 and blooded most of them. Resurrection? Open heart surgery? I said in a few other threads the team choices have been strange and now we know why. Hopefully we don't leave it til 3 and 13 before we kick it into gear like 2014.
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Hmmm not too sure if you understand what a rebuild is either
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Not too sure if you understand what a rebuild is
Isnt it what most clubs do right? Generate the lsit whilst bringing in some youth and not THunt and his mates.
Hawks, Cats, Swans have done it very well and the way it should have been done by dimwit many years ago.
FFS swans had more kids than GWS yesterday.
Now that he has realised that he has stuffed our list, frawley styles, he wants to go into a rebuilding phase. FMD.
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Who is he trying in new positions?
Chaplin forward, and.....
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It's his lack of knowledge in the area you should be concerned about.
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Who is he trying in new positions?
Chaplin forward, and.....
Pretty sure you werent at the game wayne
But FYI yesterday we had the follwoing blokes tried off the HBF
Ellis C,
Martin D
McIntosh K
Short J
Menadue C
Lennon B
The McIntosh move worked, ditto Lennon to a point think it's worth giving another go, the rest? Errr nope
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Yes great eh, McIntosh who was touted as one of our many attacking options last season has now been moved to the backline...... Circles anyone.
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I thought Dusty went alright back there, thought he was out of sorts most game in the middle
However I know some don't want him back there
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Yes great eh, McIntosh who was touted as one of our many attacking options last season has now been moved to the backline...... Circles anyone.
WAT with respect hes been moved to HB for a couple of reasons
One is because he does soemthing so many pf our players refuse to do and thats run both ways, he actually will chase blokes when he doesnt have the ball
Two, he applies defensovw pressure
And three and most importantly he gives us much needed run off the backline and has reasonable disposal
Defending is only part of the role
After yesterday, I reckon its a good idea, much better than Ellis B being back there
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I thought Dusty went alright back there, thought he was out of sorts most game in the middle
However I know some don't want him back there
Agree with you on being out of sorts Chuck, blind Freddie could see it. Worst game hes played IMESHO
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Pretty crappy when we have to put our best centre/forward in the backline with the rest of them to save us from utter humiliation isnt it.
FFS, even Jack went there at stages.
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Who is he trying in new positions?
Chaplin forward, and.....
Pretty sure you werent at the game wayne
But FYI yesterday we had the follwoing blokes tried off the HBF
Ellis C,
Martin D
McIntosh K
Short J
Menadue C
Lennon B
The McIntosh move worked, ditto Lennon to a point think it's worth giving another go, the rest? Errr nope
I was at the game, and plonking blokes in the backline to "stop the rot" isn't really trying guys in different positions.
I like the move of McIntosh to HB. We need bigger bodies in our backline. Hawthorn have Birchell and Straton as their running defenders and we have Ellis and Houli. Wowee
We are so extremely weak!
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Yes great eh, McIntosh who was touted as one of our many attacking options last season has now been moved to the backline...... Circles anyone.
WAT with respect hes been moved to HB for a couple of reasons
One is because he does soemthing so many pf our players refuse to do and thats run both ways, he actually will chase blokes when he doesnt have the ball
Two, he applies defensovw pressure
And three and most importantly he gives us much needed run off the backline and has reasonable disposal
Defending is only part of the role
After yesterday, I reckon its a good idea, much better than Ellis B being back there
Yeah I realise all that but who don't we have now to take his role, musical positions and band aid solutions again to stop the leaking.
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McIntosh was played back the previous week
Think the Ben Lennon down back might work also
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McIntosh was played back the previous week
Think the Ben Lennon down back might work also
True but played the entire game there this week
Lennon spent time at HB yesterday. Disposal was good, decision making OK, worth another go
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How come he doesn't know where he should play these guys yet?
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How come he doesn't know where he should play these guys yet?
Ever thought they mighten have much idea ?
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That goes without saying
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Pretty crappy when we have to put our best centre/forward in the backline with the rest of them to save us from utter humiliation isnt it.
FFS, even Jack went there at stages.
Actually he was sent back to save himself. He was having no influence whatsoever
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Pretty crappy when we have to put our best centre/forward in the backline with the rest of them to save us from utter humiliation isnt it.
FFS, even Jack went there at stages.
I would play everyone in te backline
Lids
Martin
Vlastuin
Rance
Grimes
Astbury
C Ellis
Mcintosh
Lennon
It's a shambles currently
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Terry Wallace says please explain Dimma
Joshua Papanikolaou
SEN
11 Apr 2016, 12:23PM
The comment made by Richmond coach Damien Hardwick after the loss to Adelaide that his team may need to take half a step back to go two steps forward is confusing, says Terry Wallace.
After finishing fifth last season with 15 wins it would be reasonable to suggest that the Tigers would be pretty much set on who is doing what on the field regarding their game plan.
“I found it a very strange statement because Richmond won 15 games last year, so to be saying that you need to take a step back to go forward – if I was there I would have asked ‘please explain’,” said Wallace on SEN radio.
“Structurally, I see Richmond play their best football when they free flow… I’m not sure what’s going on with them at the moment.
“Well they won disposal by 42, uncontested possession by 39, won marks by 35, they had 15 to four marks inside 50 and got slaughtered.
“But it was turnovers, twelve goals to four against them for turnovers.”
Kevin Bartlett was also confused with Hardwick’s comments in the post-match press conference when he tried to downplay the six-goal defeat by mentioning the various statistics his team had won.
“The game has been ambushed a bit by stats because on the weekend I heard Dimma Hardwick tell us that the Tigers won every stat known to man but they got smashed on the scoreboard and never looked like winning,” explained Bartlett.
http://www.sen.com.au/news/04-16/terry-wallace-says-please-explain-dimma
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You know you're in trouble when Terry Wallace is making more sense than your current coach........ :whistle
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Ah where would Dum Dum be with out his precious stats......it's like we're being coached by one of the apologists from the Big Footy Richmond board .....do we get a trophy for winning the statistical premiership?
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You know you're in trouble the Terry Wallace is making more sense than your current coach........ :whistle
:lol
Should we bring him back then? :rollin
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It's Spud frawley over again.
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Pretty crappy when we have to put our best centre/forward in the backline with the rest of them to save us from utter humiliation isnt it.
FFS, even Jack went there at stages.
Actually he was sent back to save himself. He was having no influence whatsoever
Why was it that he was having "no influence"? Because of the crap delivery into the forward line? Because we couldn't get any sort of movement out of the backline? Because we couldn't open up the forward line to give him some space because our movement was so slow or when we did move it the ball was turned over??
It sure as hell wasn't because Jack was no good.
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And as usual dimmer had no moves or calls to make until the last qtr.
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And as usual dimmer had no moves or calls to make until the last qtr.
mate he cant make any moves in the bedroom, so what chance has he got of performing on match day.
dud in the sack and dud in the box
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Stability
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Terry Wallace says please explain Dimma
Joshua Papanikolaou
SEN
11 Apr 2016, 12:23PM
The comment made by Richmond coach Damien Hardwick after the loss to Adelaide that his team may need to take half a step back to go two steps forward is confusing, says Terry Wallace.
After finishing fifth last season with 15 wins it would be reasonable to suggest that the Tigers would be pretty much set on who is doing what on the field regarding their game plan.
“I found it a very strange statement because Richmond won 15 games last year, so to be saying that you need to take a step back to go forward – if I was there I would have asked ‘please explain’,” said Wallace on SEN radio.
“Structurally, I see Richmond play their best football when they free flow… I’m not sure what’s going on with them at the moment.
“Well they won disposal by 42, uncontested possession by 39, won marks by 35, they had 15 to four marks inside 50 and got slaughtered.
“But it was turnovers, twelve goals to four against them for turnovers.”
Kevin Bartlett was also confused with Hardwick’s comments in the post-match press conference when he tried to downplay the six-goal defeat by mentioning the various statistics his team had won.
“The game has been ambushed a bit by stats because on the weekend I heard Dimma Hardwick tell us that the Tigers won every stat known to man but they got smashed on the scoreboard and never looked like winning,” explained Bartlett.
http://www.sen.com.au/news/04-16/terry-wallace-says-please-explain-dimma
Yep, been saying the same thing!!!!
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Bugger, it's hard when you have to talk about football an people see you are talking bollocks
Better tell us about the bedroom or lebron james again
Or how we are out of trade week a few hours after it's started
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Pretty crappy when we have to put our best centre/forward in the backline with the rest of them to save us from utter humiliation isnt it.
FFS, even Jack went there at stages.
Actually he was sent back to save himself. He was having no influence whatsoever
Why was it that he was having "no influence"? Because of the crap delivery into the forward line? Because we couldn't get any sort of movement out of the backline? Because we couldn't open up the forward line to give him some space because our movement was so slow or when we did move it the ball was turned over??
It sure as hell wasn't because Jack was no good.
Was referring to Martin, who was in the middle and meant to be winning the ball for us