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Title: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 14, 2016, 02:15:31 AM
Damien Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win

JON RALPH
Herald Sun
April 14, 2016


DAMIEN Hardwick has enough coaching headaches without worrying about the type of milestone he will notch on Friday night.

When the ball is bounced against West Coast at Subiaco Oval, he will have coached the most games in VFL-AFL history without a single finals victory.

He eclipses former Richmond centreman Bob McCaskill’s unwanted record, the North Melbourne and Hawthorn coach notching 138 games without any September glory.

If Bob was alive he would share Hardwick’s pain, his Roos running into a Carlton-sized roadblock in 1945 before going 4-32 in two seasons with Hawthorn.

You can twist statistics any way you want — Hardwick has also guided the Tigers into successive finals (three in fact) for the first time since 1974-75.

But it is another reminder of the vast challenges in front of Hardwick and his Tigers, who seem further from that finals triumph than ever.

Richmond fans are realists, filthy at the sloppy start to the year and botched opportunity to nail Collingwood late.

Yet they are aware key injuries to skill players Brett Deledio, Shane Edwards and Chris Yarran in a team that lacks that commodity have cruelled the first month.

What does gall them is Hardwick’s mixed messages of the past few days, the dramatic change of narrative for a club so optimistic only weeks ago.

Just days before Round 1 Hardwick brimmed with positivity, adamant a fast start to the year would rocket his side to the top four.

“We have got to make sure we get the good start we are after,’’ he told Fox Footy.

“We haven’t had a good start in the last three years, the best we have been is 3-3.

“There is no doubt if you start well you will finish well. We are looking to get off to a fast start.”

Now Hardwick says the Tigers are taking a step back to move forward, a policy that seems to have been made on the run.

It doesn’t wash, not when Hardwick has spent a full six years building a list and game plan.

Football supporters are smart — they have never watched more football, never been more aware of list management, never had a better bulldust radar.

If Hardwick had alerted those fans early about the growing pains associated with the fast-tracking of Daniel Rioli, Jayden Short, Corey Ellis, Ben Lennon and retooling Kamdyn McIntosh as a defender, they might have understood.

Instead he promised all-out assault on the first month of the year.

The investment in the quickly improving Rioli and Short has been worth it, the positional change of McIntosh is a tick, the development of Ellis and Lennon still very much a work in progress.

If he bolsters the midfield with his most dangerous midfielders the forward line all of a sudden looks thin on X-factor.

If Ivan Maric returns for Shaun Hampson his in-close aggression won’t match Hampson’s tap-work: conundrums lie everywhere.

In truth, this season is a mirror image of 2015, the club giving up 46 points a game from back-half turnovers compared to 13 for the miserly Western Bulldogs.

Last year after the Tigers coughed up 92 points from Benny Hill-style turnovers against North Melbourne in Round 6, Hardwick finally got the mix and the ball speed right.

The Tigers won 13 of the next 16 games.

One of those wins was a stirring Friday night encounter against unbeaten Fremantle at Subiaco Oval.

McCaskill, a soldier in two wars who at one stage won six straight flags with Sandhurst before his VFL coaching stint, was labelled the Prince of Coaches given his coaching prowess.

In the Sporting Globe in 1946 he spoke of non-negotiables like desire and application, saying footy had three fundamentals: “To get the ball, to protect oneself, and to dispose of it constructively.”

It is not too late, but unless Hardwick’s players begin to dispose of the ball constructively that finals win will remain as elusive as ever.

MOST GAMES COACHED WITHOUT A FINALS WIN


138 games — Damien Hardwick at Richmond

138 games — Bob McCaskill at North Melbourne and Hawthorn

137 games — Alec Hall at St Kilda, Melbourne, Richmond and Hawthorn

132 — Ken Judge at Hawthorn and West Coast

128 — Arthur Olliver at Footscray

NOTABLE FACTS


Bill Stephen coached 258 games at Fitzroy and Essendon for one finals win

Chris Connolly had only one finals win in 126 games with Fremantle

Alastair Clarkson has 16 finals wins from 22 finals and four premierships from 262 games

Hardwick is one of only five coaches in AFL history to coach a team in three finals, and not win any of them: idiot Condon (Collingwood) 1905-06, Len Smith (Fitzroy) 1958, 1960, Arthur Oliver (Footscray) 1944, 1946, 1948, Allan Joyce (Western Bulldogs) 1994-95.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-has-coached-most-vflafl-games-in-history-without-a-finals/news-story/388a2b10a03a2dc155fd7a0464ae493a
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on April 14, 2016, 04:35:38 AM
Good bloke but

Isn't that what really matters
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: georgies31 on April 14, 2016, 04:44:12 AM
Good bloke but

Isn't that what really matters


To right not bold enough to make hard  decsions instead we make half assed one's like resigning him  :banghead
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on April 14, 2016, 06:34:42 AM
Typical and the RFC condone it!!!!
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on April 14, 2016, 08:39:38 AM
Geez, he finally achieves something and you ingrates cant even bring yourselves to congratulate him, but just stick the boots in.
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: Willy on April 14, 2016, 09:16:36 AM
Congrats Damien!!

 :bow
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on April 14, 2016, 09:33:12 AM
 :clapping
you're a good man, willy!
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on April 14, 2016, 06:16:06 PM
 :clapping :clapping :clapping :gotigers
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 14, 2016, 06:49:12 PM
Another statistical win for the boy from windy hill.  :clapping

I'd like to see him dissect this one.
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: taztiger4 on April 14, 2016, 06:50:12 PM
Another statistical win for the boy from windy hill.  :clapping

I'd like to see him dissect this one.

Id like to see him dissect a few posters !
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on April 14, 2016, 07:07:38 PM
Grigg, Chaplin, hunt in the side for Dimma record breaking game

Miles out

Fantastic well done super coach
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 14, 2016, 07:10:04 PM
Another statistical win for the boy from windy hill.  :clapping

I'd like to see him dissect this one.

Id like to see him dissect a few posters !

It's a Tassie thing.
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: Raoul Duke on April 14, 2016, 07:48:28 PM
Its all about stability.


 :clapping
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: crackertiger on April 14, 2016, 07:53:13 PM
It's all about stupidity!

He is a terrible coach but we will just waste another 2 year because of reputation.
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on April 14, 2016, 07:56:28 PM
Eddie said he'd be happy to sack Buckley

Penny and Benny still blowing smoke up Dimmas bum
Title: Re: Hardwick set to coach most VFL-AFL games in history without a finals win (H-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on April 14, 2016, 08:02:58 PM
Buckley was the golden boy... Eddie is still sayin he'd give him the ass

Dimma is a nobody, dirty, plodder back pocket for the drug cheats our clubs powers that be are in lie with



Yuck