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Title: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 15, 2016, 11:13:54 PM
 :gobdrop

Broken? That's being polite I would have thought
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Simonator on April 15, 2016, 11:16:06 PM
Anyone who's watching mind repeating any major keys he's said ? Cheers
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: DCrane on April 15, 2016, 11:17:07 PM
We need to fix a few things is the main thrust of it
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 15, 2016, 11:17:57 PM
Admits Eagles a long way in front of us

Still reckons we can play finals
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Diocletian on April 15, 2016, 11:19:57 PM
Oh look they're a far superior side....
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Lozza on April 15, 2016, 11:20:04 PM
We need to fix world poverty but it aint going to happen overnight, there is fix a few things and there is fix a few things, in my view the things we need to fix are so massive and so far beyond Dimma's capabilities as a coach that we may as well save everyone the time and pay him out now rather than simply waste the next couple of years.
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Lozza on April 15, 2016, 11:21:09 PM
Cant wait for his presser after we lose to the Dee's  :rollin
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 15, 2016, 11:47:04 PM
The idiots lost complete control of the the shop.

LMAO @ Depth and Cream.
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 15, 2016, 11:49:08 PM
Cant wait for his presser after we lose to the Dee's  :rollin
Look Melbourne this year are a top side. They came to play tonight. We lost the contested ball and the tackle count and they will beat a lot of teams this year. :whistle
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Diocletian on April 15, 2016, 11:49:58 PM
Yeah we just need some Cream.....so Hartley will probably try and recruit Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker & Jack Bruce....
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: one-eyed on April 15, 2016, 11:54:59 PM
Brief summary

* Got smashed in contested possessions. Then turned it over in defence. Same problem the last few weeks. We were able to turn around contested possies in the 2nd half but the game was gone by then.

* We've just got to back on the horse and keep working through things. Tried some changes but they didn't work tonight. Back to the drawing board.

* We got smashed in contested possessions, smashed in turnovers, smashed on the scoreboard. That's the summary of the game. Eagles going to be very tough to beat over here.

* Everytime we tried to switch the play to the other side avenues were closed or the ball was turned over [paraphrasing].

* "Not the same side as last year" and "half-step-back to go two steps forward" comments were about us needing to play younger players at the moment until the senior players return.

* Cotch lead from the front tonight. Leader in contested possessions etc. Best along with Rance and Jack tonight.

* Hampson copped a corky in the thigh in the first quarter and then got another knock at the start of the second. Ty went into ruck but we had rotate others in there as well. We had to throw Grigg and Moore at stages.

* Deledio - he's improving and we'd like to say he's available but we won't know more until he trains through week.

* Maric - only play one NAB game and 3/4 of a VFL match. Needed more gametime. We'll make a decision tonight/tomorrow about next week.
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: TigerLand on April 16, 2016, 12:19:35 AM
Load of rubbish. Obsessed with contested possession 1 trick pony
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: one-eyed on April 16, 2016, 12:23:57 AM
Forgot to add, Dimma was asked about finals and he said while they look miles away at the moment, he still believes we'll make the finals as we've been in this situation before and recovered.

The full presser is here:

VIDEO:
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2016-04-15/disappointed-hardwick-is-still-eyeing-finals
or
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-04-16/round-4-hardwick-postmatch
Title: Hardwick confident Tigers still in finals mix (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on April 16, 2016, 03:47:09 AM
Damien Hardwick confident Tigers still in finals mix

AFL.com.au
16 April 2016



RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick says his side can still make the finals, despite winning just one of its first four games and being thrashed by West Coast in Perth.

The Tigers managed to send the ball inside their attacking 50m arc on just eight occasions in the first half as West Coast piled on 10.13 to take a nine-goal lead into the half-time break and put the result beyond doubt.

But Hardwick said his side was still capable of playing finals football in 2016.

“It seems so far away at the moment, but as I said previously we have been in this situation before. I’m pretty confident now (of) our players and our coaching group bouncing back,” he said.

In the past two seasons, Richmond has started poorly, only to string together several wins in the back end of the year and storm into the finals.

Last year, the Tigers won 13 of their last 16, while they forced their way into the finals in 2014 with nine consecutive wins to round out the home-and-away season.

And things are looking up with the possibility of joint vice-captains Brett Deledio and Ivan Maric to return to AFL action against Melbourne at the MCG next Sunday.

Maric completed three quarters in the VFL last week and is expected to play again this weekend, though Hardwick said he would have preferred to rest his star ruckman after Shaun Hampson suffered a thigh injury against West Coast.

“He (Maric) needs games. Ideally we wouldn’t (play him), but he’s only played a half in the NAB and then played three quarters last week, so he needs touch,” Hardwick said.

Deledio, meanwhile, will have to come through another week of training before being declared ready to resume.

Hardwick said he had been disappointed with his team’s performance over the past three weeks. The process was “broken” and his side hanballed too often, he said.

“Clearance and contested ball tonight we got belted, which doesn’t help, but when you are trying to attack from the back half all the time. It’s too hard,” he said.

“Sides are too good defensively, so we have got to make sure we get the ball in our front half and then we can start to dictate terms a little bit more. We haven’t probably had that at any stage this year.”

He did reserve some praise for captain Trent Cotchin, who had 29 possessions, star forward Jack Riewoldt, and Alex Rance, who kept star West Coast full-forward Josh Kennedy to two goals.

Hardwick said Hampson had a corked thigh and was in doubt for the match against Melbourne, while David Astbury had suffered a “significant” ankle sprain.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-16/damien-hardwick-confident-tigers-still-in-finals-mix
Title: Hardwick looking to fix ‘broken’ Tigers (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 16, 2016, 03:48:41 AM
Hardwick looking to fix ‘broken’ Tigers

Herald-Sun
16 April 2016



DAMIEN Hardwick will look to mend his team’s “broken” process ahead of a defining clash with Melbourne as Richmond attempts to halt its early season slide.

The Tigers were exposed by a rampant opponent for the second week in a row on Friday night, with West Coast effectively sealing the result before half-time on the back of a dominant display.

Hardwick singled out a lack of winning contested ball, poor use coming out of defence and a tendency to over-handball as the main reasons for his side’s third consecutive loss.

“We’ll take stock, look at some things that we’re doing, tinker a few things and try and get a better result,” Hardwick said.

“We’ve got to mend the process. Obviously it’s broken at the moment.

“So we’ll work our way through it. We’ve got a pretty significant break, so we’ll be able to get some training into the boys and try to rectify a few of the issues we’re having at the minute.”

When asked if he was still confident of making finals, Hardwick replied: “Very much so”.

“It seems so far way at the moment,” he said.

“But we’ve been in this situation before. I’m pretty confident our players and our coaching group will bounce back.”

Richmond could be bolstered by the inclusion of star duo Brett Deledio and Ivan Maric ahead of the Demons clash at the MCG next Sunday.

But the Tigers could lose ruckman Shaun Hampson (corked thigh) and David Astbury (ankle) after both failed to finish Friday night’s game.

Hardwick said Deledio had “made progress” this week on the comeback trail from a quad complaint.

“Whether he’s available - we’d like to think he is,” Hardwick said.

“But there’s a lot of training to go through this week. So we’ll see how it pans out.”

The Tigers are set to make a call on Saturday about whether Maric plays another VFL game this weekend as he continues his return from a back injury.

“He needs games,” Hardwick said.

“Ideally we wouldn’t. But he’s only played a half in the NAB (Challenge) and then played three quarters (of VFL) last week. So he needs touch.

“It would be one we would assess at this stage. We need him back in the side. But he needs game time also.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-looking-to-fix-broken-process-after-loss-to-west-coast/news-story/cdcfbbff5d5dbda27923fce0ebda8b61
Title: Hardwick remains upbeat despite big loss (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on April 16, 2016, 03:50:03 AM
Hardwick remains upbeat despite big loss

Brad Elborough
The Age
16 April 2016


Tigers coach Damien Hardwick was accurate in his summation of Richmond's 68-point loss to West Coast on Friday night.

"We just got beaten tonight by a far superior unit. We played a side tonight that smashed us in contested ball, forward half, turnover, and on the scoreboard," he said.

"That's the game in a nutshell. It's quite easy to see why they won."

But you have to wonder if he has the answers as to how he's going to turn it around.

"We've got to mend the process. Obviously it's broken at the moment," he said.

"We'll take stock, look at some things that we're doing, tinker a few things and try and get a better result.

"So we'll work our way through it. We've got a pretty significant break (nine days), so we'll be able to get some training into the boys and try to rectify a few of the issues we're having at the minute."

There is a fair bit to rectify.

The Tigers are now 1-3 after consecutive losses to Collingwood, Adelaide and now West Coast.

After playing Melbourne in round five and then Port Adelaide in round six (both at the MCG), they have a tough run against Hawthorn, Sydney, and Fremantle (back in Perth). They also have to play North Melbourne and Gold Coast before their bye in round 13.

They look like being without David Astbury due to an ankle injury that resulted in him nearly having to be carried from Domain Stadium. And Shaun Hampson sat in the bench wrapped in ice bags for the second half – and should have been there a quarter earlier.

Ivan Maric and Brett Deledio will both come into contention for the game against the Demons, but both are under-done and in desperate need of a run.

But it is only round four and Hardwick remains confident that finals are still very much achievable this season.

"Very much so," he said. "It seems so far way at the moment. But we've been in this situation before. I'm pretty confident our players and our coaching group will bounce back.

"Prior to tonight we'd averaged 26, 27 shots on goal. We've been giving over the ball a little bit too early through back half transition, which we spoke about over the course of the last two weeks.

"We've been in a similar situation before. We'll modify a few things, and go back to the drawing board on a couple of others.

"The game changes, we've got to change. We tried to go with the change, it didn't work out, so we'll look at a few things to see how it works out from here on end."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-season-2016-tigers-coach-damien-hardwick-remains-upbeat-despite-big-loss-20160415-go7tuw.html
Title: Re: Hardwick confident Tigers still in finals mix (afl site)
Post by: georgies31 on April 16, 2016, 04:10:37 AM
Damien Hardwick confident Tigers still in finals mix

AFL.com.au
16 April 2016



RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick says his side can still make the finals, despite winning just one of its first four games and being thrashed by West Coast in Perth.

The Tigers managed to send the ball inside their attacking 50m arc on just eight occasions in the first half as West Coast piled on 10.13 to take a nine-goal lead into the half-time break and put the result beyond doubt.

But Hardwick said his side was still capable of playing finals football in 2016.

“It seems so far away at the moment, but as I said previously we have been in this situation before. I’m pretty confident now (of) our players and our coaching group bouncing back,” he said.

In the past two seasons, Richmond has started poorly, only to string together several wins in the back end of the year and storm into the finals.

Last year, the Tigers won 13 of their last 16, while they forced their way into the finals in 2014 with nine consecutive wins to round out the home-and-away season.

And things are looking up with the possibility of joint vice-captains Brett Deledio and Ivan Maric to return to AFL action against Melbourne at the MCG next Sunday.

Maric completed three quarters in the VFL last week and is expected to play again this weekend, though Hardwick said he would have preferred to rest his star ruckman after Shaun Hampson suffered a thigh injury against West Coast.

“He (Maric) needs games. Ideally we wouldn’t (play him), but he’s only played a half in the NAB and then played three quarters last week, so he needs touch,” Hardwick said.

Deledio, meanwhile, will have to come through another week of training before being declared ready to resume.

Hardwick said he had been disappointed with his team’s performance over the past three weeks. The process was “broken” and his side hanballed too often, he said.

“Clearance and contested ball tonight we got belted, which doesn’t help, but when you are trying to attack from the back half all the time. It’s too hard,” he said.

“Sides are too good defensively, so we have got to make sure we get the ball in our front half and then we can start to dictate terms a little bit more. We haven’t probably had that at any stage this year.”

He did reserve some praise for captain Trent Cotchin, who had 29 possessions, star forward Jack Riewoldt, and Alex Rance, who kept star West Coast full-forward Josh Kennedy to two goals.

Hardwick said Hampson had a corked thigh and was in doubt for the match against Melbourne, while David Astbury had suffered a “significant” ankle sprain.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-16/damien-hardwick-confident-tigers-still-in-finals-mix


 Sums it up that quote we have to be in that situation to play good footy and recover weake as water we a and the football department have no idea.What a load of crap tell me why we find ourselves in this situation year after year and we want to play finals and the club things we can crack the top 4 to .The club is run by clowns.
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: WA Tiger on April 16, 2016, 06:28:44 AM
Deledio, Maric..Deledio, Maric..Deledio, Maric..Deledio, Maric..Deledio, Maric..Deledio, Maric..Deledio, Maric..

Where is the depth???? Cream on top?????

I'm done listening to his poo and the continual reliance on Maric and Dededio returning, their absence is not the problem. You don't see the Eagles suffering without Priddis...FFS... :banghead
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Chuck17 on April 16, 2016, 06:41:51 AM
The presser was fairly long and I could be bothered reading it all but was there any mention of the rebuild or are they still keeping it on the down low
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 16, 2016, 06:47:26 AM
None. When asked by a reporter about the "half step" nonsense he just responded by saying that was due to senior players being out.

Knowing how dillusional he is he was probably referring to the ones that retired last year.

Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Chuck17 on April 16, 2016, 06:48:15 AM
Ok thanks
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: wayne on April 16, 2016, 07:44:19 AM

* We've just got to back on the horse and keep working through things. Tried some changes but they didn't work tonight. Back to the drawing board.

4 weeks in and we're trying things and have to go back to the drawing board??

What did they do all pre-season??
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Lozza on April 16, 2016, 08:29:53 AM
Delusional with a capital D..... This guy just doesn't have the answers so expect the same spin after every loss and yes based on last night's performance there will be a lot of these.

Still believe the inner sanctum of the RFC saw this coming and extended Hardwick to commence the early rebuild and absorb the initial backlash although they probably weren't expecting injuries/performances to impact so quickly following his mandate to go through the process.

Now waiting for someone at the club to confirm this and come to the defence of Hardwick at some point.
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Chuck17 on April 16, 2016, 09:10:20 AM
Delusional with a capital D..... This guy just doesn't have the answers so expect the same spin after every loss and yes based on last night's performance there will be a lot of these.

Still believe the inner sanctum of the RFC saw this coming and extended Hardwick to commence the early rebuild and absorb the initial backlash although they probably weren't expecting injuries/performances to impact so quickly following his mandate to go through the process.

Now waiting for someone at the club to confirm this and come to the defence of Hardwick at some point.

Yep expect a bottom two finish this year and the same next year with a priority pick (if they still have them)
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Simonator on April 16, 2016, 09:18:43 AM
Credit where it's due .. Hardwick is good at turning things around. But 6,7,8 rounds into the season is far too late.
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: WA Tiger on April 16, 2016, 10:23:17 AM
Credit where it's due .. Hardwick is good at turning things around. But 6,7,8 rounds into the season is far too late.

This far into his coaching tenure he should not be in the position of "turning things around", he should be in the position of securing a top 4 berth!
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: mat073 on April 16, 2016, 11:00:38 AM

* We've just got to back on the horse and keep working through things. Tried some changes but they didn't work tonight. Back to the drawing board.

4 weeks in and we're trying things and have to go back to the drawing board??

What did they do all pre-season??

That is the million dollar question Wayne.
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Simonator on April 16, 2016, 11:05:42 AM
Credit where it's due .. Hardwick is good at turning things around. But 6,7,8 rounds into the season is far too late.

This far into his coaching tenure he should not be in the position of "turning things around", he should be in the position of securing a top 4 berth!

Agreed completely.
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: tdy on April 16, 2016, 11:36:14 AM
At least we're not as bad as freon 0:3 staring down 0:4. They're just crap.
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 16, 2016, 12:17:19 PM
We've just got to back on the horse and keep working through things. Tried some changes but they didn't work tonight. Back to the drawing board.


U f kin moronic imbecile.

Get the stuff out of my club u turd.
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: tony_montana on April 16, 2016, 12:25:04 PM
I just heard Rance on sen, a bit concerned with his definition of leadership. Was saying he and the senior guys can't force the young guys to play and see football the way they want them to play, bc they may have different footy philosophies and see things differently to the senior guys. So it's up to them to work it out basically.  :huh

If that is indicative of the leadership style it's no surprise we seem to lack direction on field.
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Ruanaidh on April 16, 2016, 02:40:30 PM
I just heard Rance on sen, a bit concerned with his definition of leadership. Was saying he and the senior guys can't force the young guys to play and see football the way they want them to play, bc they may have different footy philosophies and see things differently to the senior guys. So it's up to them to work it out basically.  :huh

If that is indicative of the leadership style it's no surprise we seem to lack direction on field.
Heard that and the Cotchin Interview on MMM. Coupled with quotes from Dimma and Astbury over the last week I reckon you get a good insight into the
befuddled atmosphere down at the club.
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Lozza on April 16, 2016, 03:09:53 PM
Therein lies the problem, basically it's all too hard for them so just let the kids work it out for themselves, she'll be right mate.... Quite comical if it wasn't so sad for the club.
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 16, 2016, 03:42:44 PM
Coaching & Football Performance -Tim Livingstone FAIL
Player Development Manager-Bronwyn Doig FAIL
Leadership Consultant-Gerard Murphy FAIL
Senior Coach-Damien Hardwick FAIL
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Diocletian on April 16, 2016, 04:11:56 PM
Wait a minute - we've got a chick managing player development?

Explains a lot....
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Diocletian on April 16, 2016, 04:17:06 PM
I mean what are we expecting the players to develop? Breasts?

Doing a fine job with Conca & Yarran if that's the case....
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 16, 2016, 04:19:31 PM
So we are entering a team into the women's league.....
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Diocletian on April 16, 2016, 04:32:10 PM
They had a good hit out last night in preparation....
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 16, 2016, 04:51:25 PM
I mean what are we expecting the players to develop? Breasts?

Doing a fine job with Conca & Yarran if that's the case....
:lol
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: TigerMonk on April 16, 2016, 05:45:52 PM
Something that l think is a major problem at Tigerland is when you have a player like Brandon Ellis ready to move the ball on forward & you have a senior player in Rance instructing him what to do. l find this a real problem because the player with the ball is not using his own football smarts but doing what the player behind wants. Is this why RFC are so aweful on the ground as they waste their own ability.
Seeing Brandon Ellis doing a complete circle on the spot that looked aweful stuck in my mind & had me thinking. Its the senior players who are the problem. When the youngsters move the ball forward long & quickly we score goals. What do other think about this. Could this be the main problem out on the field that the senior players are not letting the other players use their own brain & confusing them. l don't think any player needs a lecture on how to move the ball forward from a mark or free kick.
Players are drafted on the ability & football smarts. We have too many out on the ground giving orders yet fail to carry out their own role properly. l don't see any benefit in Rance wanting Ellis to go across the ground & he did turn it over but l see this as a problem on field. Thoughts
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Chuck17 on April 16, 2016, 06:00:09 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 16, 2016, 06:08:32 PM
Wait a minute - we've got a chick managing player development?

Explains a lot....

Head of Arrested development, is her official title
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 16, 2016, 08:42:39 PM
I just heard Rance on sen, a bit concerned with his definition of leadership. Was saying he and the senior guys can't force the young guys to play and see football the way they want them to play, bc they may have different footy philosophies and see things differently to the senior guys. So it's up to them to work it out basically.  :huh

If that is indicative of the leadership style it's no surprise we seem to lack direction on field.
Heard that and the Cotchin Interview on MMM. Coupled with quotes from Dimma and Astbury over the last week I reckon you get a good insight into the
befuddled atmosphere down at the club.

I didn't hear the Rance interview but did hear the Cotchin one

Wasn't one of Trent's best media efforts  :-\ when asked if it was getting him down & how it is impacting on him he said he seeing Dimma "getting thrown up under the bus" was the hardest thing to deal with... What the?....

And finished off by saying "our supporters need to know we are working hard to fix things"

Sounded broken himself and was not confident in his answers...
Title: Re: Dimma: The Process is Broken (presser)
Post by: Stalin on April 17, 2016, 12:00:57 AM
I just heard Rance on sen, a bit concerned with his definition of leadership. Was saying he and the senior guys can't force the young guys to play and see football the way they want them to play, bc they may have different footy philosophies and see things differently to the senior guys. So it's up to them to work it out basically.  :huh

If that is indicative of the leadership style it's no surprise we seem to lack direction on field.

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