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Title: 2016 draft thread
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 25, 2016, 09:30:40 AM
Anyone know much about the quality of this years draft kids?

Well probably end up with a pick in the top 3-5.

But i also think we traded our second rounder last year so there goes oue pick in the early 20s.
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 25, 2016, 09:34:37 AM
it doesn't matter who we get as long as dimwit, Hartley Jackson and that stupid american president is still there, we will forever be s h I t

It really is that simple.
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: WA Tiger on April 25, 2016, 10:22:22 AM
I was thinking about this last night.

Here we go again, we have crap year after the first year where the picks from last year were traded for players. :lol

So if we have pick 3 or 4 won't that be compromised by the traded picks for players from last year?

No doubt we will get shafted again like we did years ago when the new teams joined the league.. :P

Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 25, 2016, 10:24:42 AM
 :-[
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 25, 2016, 11:04:56 AM
What's the point of a draft thread?

Francis "Betamax" Jackson will somehow find a way to stuff it up.  Let's face it we could field a full team with the quality players he's missed in the draft, a team more than likely could be winning premierships now.

But even if Betamax did pick a great list we'd all wonder why their crap because we have the worst development team in the league. But let's not bad mouth "Chocco".  :shh

Let's show Blair Hartley the door too, if every lay poster and his dog on this forum could see we needed a ruck, then why the hell haven't we got one? He's either a complete idiot or he actually thought Hampsud was good (which is why he was traded with a second rnd pick) and this my friends is enough to have him put in stocks so as we could all throw rotten fruit at his head.
Who's with me? :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 25, 2016, 11:13:02 AM
What's the point of a draft thread?

Francis "Betamax" Jackson will somehow find a way to stuff it up.  Let's face it we could field a full team with the quality players he's missed in the draft, a team more than likely could be winning premierships now.

But even if Betamax did pick a great list we'd all wonder why their crap because we have the worst development team in the league. But let's not bad mouth "Chocco".  :shh

Let's show Blair Hartley the door too, if every lay poster and his dog on this forum could see we needed a ruck, then why the hell haven't we got one? He's either a complete idiot or he actually thought Hampsud was good (which is why he was traded with a second rnd pick) and this my friends is enough to have him put in stocks so as we could all throw rotten fruit at his head.
Who's with me? :thumbsup
I agree with you re: FJ and BH. They have had long enough to bring in the right people.

I am conflicted with how much of our problems are due to playing personnel and how much are due to poor coaching, setups and structures. If the latter are the problem you could possibly put the Hawthorn players in Richmond jumpers and have them play poorly.

IMESHO I think that it is mainly the latter that is the issue and it is exacerbated by glaring holes in the playing group.
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: WA Tiger on April 25, 2016, 11:28:48 AM
So it is a compromised draft?
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Stalin on April 25, 2016, 11:30:36 AM
Yes we traded away our draft picks
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 25, 2016, 11:34:17 AM
We still got our 1st draft pick. We somehow need to trade for a second rounder. I think realistically the only guy with trade value is B. Ellis and I don't think the club has the kahunas to trade him…...
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Ruanaidh on April 25, 2016, 11:38:34 AM
Yes we traded away our draft picks
That are now worth so.. much.. more... as our low position on the ladder at the end of this year would have translated to higher positioning in the draft order.  :banghead :banghead :banghead. All for that bludger Yarran :banghead :banghead. Sack the whole administration and start again!
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: WA Tiger on April 25, 2016, 12:48:18 PM
Gee we are going to suffer unless we trade out players. B Ellis must go, Batchelor (if worth a pick), Hunt, Griff, Conca....
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 25, 2016, 03:03:22 PM
Gee we are going to suffer unless we trade out players. B Ellis must go, Batchelor (if worth a pick), Hunt, Griff, Conca....
No one will take Batchelor or Hunt. Who is dumber than us? 

I'd be surprise if we get a third rounder for GirlGriff and all currency that Conca once had is well and truly gone now.

B. Ellis and Vickery should get us some decent picks.
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Diocletian on April 25, 2016, 04:28:11 PM
Vickery as a free agent should get us half-decent compo.

Talls get overs - Griffiths must go

Ellis will get a decent pick.

Conca

GWS might be interested in Houli for marketing/demographic reasons, if nothing else.

The best player I'd give up is Edwards....we need to be serious for once and we can afford to lose him with the likes of Rioli, Butler & Short coming through....will miss his quick hands and bursts out of the middle but if we improve our list overall the loss should be negligible...

The rest just take whatever or delist. With the new bidding system you can bundle up late picks for earlier ones.

Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Stalin on April 25, 2016, 04:31:50 PM
Yeah na
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Diocletian on April 25, 2016, 04:34:04 PM
Yeah let's just trade out hacks and expect high picks & guns in return.... :gotigers
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Stalin on April 25, 2016, 04:35:14 PM
Your vendetta against titch unaustralian Shame  shame shame
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Diocletian on April 25, 2016, 04:40:26 PM
He can win a flag......with Adelaide..... :shh
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Stalin on April 25, 2016, 04:44:34 PM
He sure could .. Would be quite the addition to a good football club

I would advise not gettin rid of Edwards / rioli types

We have a plethora of slow fat white ploddin hacks and a lack Of talented slight black jets. More of a worry given the trends / rule change

Dimma still living in te 70s

Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: MintOnLamb on April 25, 2016, 04:44:50 PM
Now is the time to completely overhaul our list management dept.
List managers get paid peanuts.
For them they are in semi stasis at this stage of the year.
Identify the best list manager in Australia and throw money at them.
They are outside the salary cap.
For mine I would poach the Bulldogs or maybe West Coast or Sydney list manager guru.
Let him/her (that is possible) evaluate our list.
Get a plan.
Implement it.
End of story.
Until we do this, it is a waste of time.
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Stalin on April 25, 2016, 04:47:12 PM
Now is the time to completely overhaul our list management dept.
List managers get paid peanuts.
For them they are in semi stasis at this stage of the year.
Identify the best list manager in Australia and throw money at them.
They are outside the salary cap.
For mine I would poach the Bulldogs or maybe West Coast or Sydney list manager guru.
Let him/her (that is possible) evaluate our list.
Get a plan.
Implement it.
End of story.
Until we do this, it is a waste of time.

Spot on

We should be throwing millions at dogs / wce / Adelaide / Norf coaches, list managemers, boot studders everything
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: MintOnLamb on April 25, 2016, 05:01:03 PM
Now is the time to completely overhaul our list management dept.
List managers get paid peanuts.
For them they are in semi stasis at this stage of the year.
Identify the best list manager in Australia and throw money at them.
They are outside the salary cap.
For mine I would poach the Bulldogs or maybe West Coast or Sydney list manager guru.
Let him/her (that is possible) evaluate our list.
Get a plan.
Implement it.
End of story.
Until we do this, it is a waste of time.

Spot on

We should be throwing millions at dogs / wce / Adelaide / Norf coaches, list managemers, boot studders everything
Stalin, if it is that obvious then why doesn't it happen?
TBH, as much as it hurt i am glad Melbourne beat us as it means someone has to start answering these questions.
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Willy on April 25, 2016, 07:24:46 PM
Now is the time to completely overhaul our list management dept.
List managers get paid peanuts.
For them they are in semi stasis at this stage of the year.
Identify the best list manager in Australia and throw money at them.
They are outside the salary cap.
For mine I would poach the Bulldogs or maybe West Coast or Sydney list manager guru.
Let him/her (that is possible) evaluate our list.
Get a plan.
Implement it.
End of story.
Until we do this, it is a waste of time.

This.
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 25, 2016, 10:13:06 PM
Now is the time to completely overhaul our list management dept.
List managers get paid peanuts.
For them they are in semi stasis at this stage of the year.
Identify the best list manager in Australia and throw money at them.
They are outside the salary cap.
For mine I would poach the Bulldogs or maybe West Coast or Sydney list manager guru.
Let him/her (that is possible) evaluate our list.
Get a plan.
Implement it.
End of story.
Until we do this, it is a waste of time.

This.
x2
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on April 25, 2016, 10:18:23 PM
Thoughts on getting a Prestia type (Prestia) still on the cards? I'd honestly be able to accept (but not be happy with) Deledio for Prestia and a second rounder if it came to it. Although Lids has bled for this club, we've looked after him. Might be a great deal for both parties.

That would give us:
A first round pick, likely top 4 at this stage.
2 Second round picks, one likely early 20's, the other mid to late.
Dion Prestia.

Something to rebuild with. I think our current stocks could be remoulded, plenty of options moving forward.
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: MintOnLamb on April 25, 2016, 11:05:52 PM
To get something we would have to put Dusty, B ellis, vickery, griffin on the table
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Yeahright on April 25, 2016, 11:22:28 PM
Thoughts on getting a Prestia type (Prestia) still on the cards? I'd honestly be able to accept (but not be happy with) Deledio for Prestia and a second rounder if it came to it. Although Lids has bled for this club, we've looked after him. Might be a great deal for both parties.

That would give us:
A first round pick, likely top 4 at this stage.
2 Second round picks, one likely early 20's, the other mid to late.
Dion Prestia.

Something to rebuild with. I think our current stocks could be remoulded, plenty of options moving forward.

Don't think Deledio would get us Prestia and a second rounder. Also, even if that were to happen it would leave us with one second round pick as we already traded ours from this year didn't we?
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Stalin on April 26, 2016, 07:19:58 AM
Now is the time to completely overhaul our list management dept.
List managers get paid peanuts.
For them they are in semi stasis at this stage of the year.
Identify the best list manager in Australia and throw money at them.
They are outside the salary cap.
For mine I would poach the Bulldogs or maybe West Coast or Sydney list manager guru.
Let him/her (that is possible) evaluate our list.
Get a plan.
Implement it.
End of story.
Until we do this, it is a waste of time.

Spot on

We should be throwing millions at dogs / wce / Adelaide / Norf coaches, list managemers, boot studders everything
Stalin, if it is that obvious then why doesn't it happen?
TBH, as much as it hurt i am glad Melbourne beat us as it means someone has to start answering these questions.

Buggered if I know

It seems clear to you me a number of others of several years
Title: Re: 2016 draft thread
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 26, 2016, 09:23:37 AM
Let's first get
-a recruiting team that has a clue.   :shh

-a development department that can hone in on each players unique ability and make them 200 + gamers.

- a coaching team that understands the modern game and can adapt to changes when presented or even a creative coach that can develop a game style that suits his playing roster that not only is creative but one that despises loosing so much it makes them win.