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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 04, 2016, 04:19:48 AM
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Tigers’ draft problems
Sarah Olle
Foxsports
May 3, 2016
RICHMOND’S timid drafting and over-reliance on its Moneyball trading is at the root of its rot.
Not only have the Tigers failed to capitalise on the rise of the free-trade era, but have consistently made cautious decisions when drafting that may yet prove to be catastrophic.
While football analyst David King said blame could appropriately be apportioned to all levels of the club, he said Richmond’s recruiters were central to its overestimation of its list.
“When you look at their Round 1 draft picks over the past few years, they’ve been safe,” King told On The Couch.
“They’ve missed on that first round pick, but if you look outside of that, there hasn’t been many wildcard selections in the 30s or 40s.”
King isolated the decision to draft Reece Conca at pick No. 6 in 2010 as one such example of the Tigers’ list management woes.
Selected after Conca were players such as Geelong’s Josh Caddy, Essendon’s Dyson Heppell, GWS’ Dion Prestia and Gold Coast’s Tom Lynch — players who have all grown into bona fide stars.
While King conceded you could mount a case for drafting Brandon Ellis with pick No. 15 the following season, as well as Nick Vlastuin with pick No. 9 in 2012, Richmond’s decision to recruit Ben Lennon with its first round draft pick in 2013 remained a major failure.
Carlton young gun Patrick Cripps was selected after Lennon, a fact that should stir much malaise at Tigerland.
But compounding the Tigers’ recruiting headache has been their inability to look outside the box and unearth higher draft picks who have the potential to blossom into 200-game players.
King said the Swans had been frontrunners in this regard, recruiting midfield stars Dan Hannebery and Luke Parker with pick No. 30 and No. 40 respectively.
Yet that was just the tip of the iceberg.
Indeed, King said the Tigers’ desire to play high-tempo footy had exposed them as nothing short of pretenders this season, with a plethora of players in career-worst form magnifying the bandaids that had been used to cover bullet holes.
“They’ve tried to go with the modern game, but they just can’t do it,” he said.
“They wanted to play faster, but it has spun them out of control.”
“Time and time again they give the ball to Bachar Houli and, you know what, it doesn’t pay the bills. He’s having a horror season.
“They haven’t got the intent to cover the turnovers so they’re paying a really big price every time they turn the ball over and without Alex Rance on the weekend they were made to look second rate.”
Richmond’s recruiting sins (David King)
1. Too safe in Round 1 at the draft
2. No impact selecting players outside of Round 1 at the draft
3. Recycled talent has had no impact
4. Free agents have had no impact
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-media-watch-tigers-draft-problems-gws-ascension-afl-to-investigate-swans-role-in-stretchergate/news-story/90e4c518d69e818696f9749c8439231e
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Sometimes I think most of us on here know more than the idiots in charge down there.
How many times has it been said that Hartley and Hackson are rubbish, especially the latter. He was around with Miller and look what they both have done to the list
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Positive change at the football club can only start to occur when they bring about a change in the recruiting department.
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:clapping :bow :clapping :pray :clapping :banghead
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“Time and time again they give the ball to Bachar Houli and, you know what, it doesn’t pay the bills. He’s having a horror season.
Thank God someone in the media has finally said it.
Houli is a complete dud. FHO!!
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How many rehash articles do we need to put up with
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David King, now writes this.....pre-season he wrote we would finish top 4 and our list was primed to go further...
how can you be so wrong David and then pot all and sundry for a poor list 6 rounds in.....
full of poo and tries to bamboozle the football public with stats....no clue before and even less now
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I'd argue Lennon would be awesome if he was
1) given a consistent block of games and not dropped in the EF for Griffith/Conca
2) not played out of position i.e. HB
Cripps vs Lennon isn't a valid debate. They're both completely different players. Yes Cripps is a solid inside mid but Lennon was recruited from memory because he's an elite kick and was meant to be Deledio's replacement?
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I'd argue Lennon would be awesome if he was
1) given a consistent block of games and not dropped in the EF for Griffith/Conca
2) not played out of position i.e. HB
Cripps vs Lennon isn't a valid debate. They're both completely different players. Yes Cripps is a solid inside mid but Lennon was recruited from memory because he's an elite kick and was meant to be Deledio's replacement?
Lamington, agree with you 110%
I also think McBean joined Rich to play AFL footy, he is probably sick to death of trying his guts out and not getting a go. I know it may be argued he should just keep trying but 3 years + is a long time to be ignored. What do you think?
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Lennon was said by some that watch it - to be the best kick in the tac cup in ten years
Richmond sometimes concede 100% of goals from turnovers
So ... We play lennon in the twos all the time
:huh
#CircusFC
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I'd argue Lennon would be awesome if he was
1) given a consistent block of games and not dropped in the EF for Griffith/Conca
2) not played out of position i.e. HB
Cripps vs Lennon isn't a valid debate. They're both completely different players. Yes Cripps is a solid inside mid but Lennon was recruited from memory because he's an elite kick and was meant to be Deledio's replacement?
Lamington, agree with you 110%
I also think McBean joined Rich to play AFL footy, he is probably sick to death of trying his guts out and not getting a go. I know it may be argued he should just keep trying but 3 years + is a long time to be ignored. What do you think?
Yes, god dam shambles Richmond
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All these knobheads do is read our forums, write an article and then we all say 'Look, even people in the media can see our recruiting is bad'.
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David King, now writes this.....pre-season he wrote we would finish top 4 and our list was primed to go further...
how can you be so wrong David and then pot all and sundry for a poor list 6 rounds in.....
full of poo and tries to bamboozle the football public with stats....no clue before and even less now
welcome to the rubbish hypocritical world of the media
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All these football writer write absolute dribble. On us one week & off the next
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I'd argue Lennon would be awesome if he was
1) given a consistent block of games and not dropped in the EF for Griffith/Conca
2) not played out of position i.e. HB
Cripps vs Lennon isn't a valid debate. They're both completely different players. Yes Cripps is a solid inside mid but Lennon was recruited from memory because he's an elite kick and was meant to be Deledio's replacement?
Give me a break!
Just because they play in a different position doesn't mean you cannot compare them. One is a star of the game in a crap side in his 3rd year of AFL footy and the other cannot get a game in our poo side.
Seriously some are deluded on here.
I like the kid but from what I hear he needs to work harder and that's coming from someone inside the club. I hate DH too but sometimes kids simply need to work harder and want this more. Being an early draft pick doesn't automatically get you a game.
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I'd argue Lennon would be awesome if he was
1) given a consistent block of games and not dropped in the EF for Griffith/Conca
2) not played out of position i.e. HB
Cripps vs Lennon isn't a valid debate. They're both completely different players. Yes Cripps is a solid inside mid but Lennon was recruited from memory because he's an elite kick and was meant to be Deledio's replacement?
Give me a break!
Just because they play in a different position doesn't mean you cannot compare them. One is a star of the game in a crap side in his 3rd year of AFL footy and the other cannot get a game in our poo side.
Seriously some are deluded on here.
I like the kid but from what I hear he needs to work harder and that's coming from someone inside the club. I hate DH too but sometimes kids simply need to work harder and want this more. Being an early draft pick doesn't automatically get you a game.
it should
when you have guys aged 25-30 who play in a similar positions that suck
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It did for many in the team in days gone by....
Double standards.
Has been a problem at the club for a long time.
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It did for many in the team in days gone by....
Double standards.
Has been a problem at the club for a long time.
exactly
but now richmond are a stable club
you dont just give out games
you have you earn them
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From Damian Barrett:
Richmond has stuffed things up. After three straight elimination finals losses, 2016 was meant to be the year. It won't be. And now officials are scrambling, one even daring to retro-fit past decisions that haven't worked. Some clubs never get it right.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-04/damian-barrett-column-going-allin