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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Stalin on May 06, 2016, 08:45:31 PM
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Good question lids
Good question
Hardwick is a bastard
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Poor deledio going nuts on bench rightly so
Circus
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Reckon Lids was asking why he was taken off.
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Dumb dumb dumb
We lost the momentum
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Dunno about ypu lit, but i reckon he was asking why he came off
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Fair enough
Shouldn't be taken lids off either
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Wayne Carey
"If griff kicked that goal they would of taken him off" :lol
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Why act so surprised. It's dimwit running the show after all
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Be fair, it would have been the forward coach, Mellor.
Why he was ever promoted to an assistant coaches job after failing so thoroughly as a development coach is astounding.
Oh that's right he was already there.
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Sack Dimma
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Sack that Mellor his a real idiot
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Why act so surprised. It's dimwit running the show after all
Dimwit should be on the phone saying i don't give a poo what the gps says, keep him on the stuffing ground
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Maybe the GPS was in German? Flugen Schlagen.
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Why act so surprised. It's dimwit running the show after all
Dimwit should be on the phone saying i don't give a poo what the gps says, keep him on the stuffing ground
Instead he was on the phone to Buckley feeling sorry for themselves
Pussys
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Common sense in short supply, no doubt Hardwick will put some spin on it in the presser.
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l reckon most of the RFC supporters would be very disappointed tonight after Vickery came off when the lads were on a roll. It was a real game stopper. They lost momentum & changed the game letting the Dawks back in. l'm very peeed off & l'm so against players coming off after kicking goals. It serves no purpose at all in today's game none.
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Miles kicks two goals about two mins
Is dragged
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Part of our rotations according to Dimma in his presser, although he first said he couldn't remember it.
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Part of our rotations according to Dimma in his presser, although he first said he couldn't remember it.
So we play to a set script instead of having a feel for the game.
Ok.
No wonder we are putrid.
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Part of our rotations according to Dimma in his presser, although he first said he couldn't remember it.
What a lying dog.
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More proof Half-Step and his staff just look at stats & screens and not the actual match.....
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No soul.
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Damn red heads
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I hate myself
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Lmao at GPS. So a bloke strolls around all game as though its a walk in the park and the Gps says he needs a rest HHHHAAARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHH. thers some funny poo on these threads.
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Everyone is delivering in this thread.
:)
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I cut myself and it makes me feel better.
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Cotchin conceded key forward Tyrone Vickery should have returned to the field more quickly after spending 11 minutes stranded on the bench against Hawthorn.
He had just kicked two goals in as many minutes, with Cotchin saying his aerobic makeup had counted against him.
“I would love to see him staying out there and hopefully nabbing another one or two goals but part of the rotation policy means sometimes you need a rest,’’ he told Channel 7’s Game Day.
“I think the (coaches box would overrule rotations) in most cases but he might have been on the field for 15 minutes and knowing Ty he’s more of a power athlete than an endurance athlete.”
Source: Herald-Sun website (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/trent-cotchin-hopes-to-return-early-from-injury-for-richmonds-clash-against-sydney/news-story/cfdeb7cc7d72c649460e1d3b6b3af6e5)
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Sam Lane on Ch 7 Saturday night said, according to her 'source', Lids was going off about something [she wouldn't devulge what it was] but it had nothing to Vickery being on the bench.
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Sam Lane on Ch 7 Saturday night said, according to her 'source', Lids was going off about something [she wouldn't devulge what it was] but it had nothing to Vickery being on the bench.
Obviously :lol
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Is there any footage of lids on the bench incident?
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Cotchin conceded key forward Tyrone Vickery should have returned to the field more quickly after spending 11 minutes stranded on the bench against Hawthorn.
He had just kicked two goals in as many minutes, with Cotchin saying his aerobic makeup had counted against him.
“I would love to see him staying out there and hopefully nabbing another one or two goals but part of the rotation policy means sometimes you need a rest,’’ he told Channel 7’s Game Day.
“I think the (coaches box would overrule rotations) in most cases but he might have been on the field for 15 minutes and knowing Ty he’s more of a power athlete than an endurance athlete.”
Source: Herald-Sun website (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/trent-cotchin-hopes-to-return-early-from-injury-for-richmonds-clash-against-sydney/news-story/cfdeb7cc7d72c649460e1d3b6b3af6e5)
Maybe if he shaved off 3 or 4 kilograms of that stuffing hair he could run for a bit longer.
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More evidence that across the board we are not fit enough compared to the rest of the competition.
Fitness staff needs to be sacked too.
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Yeah, Ty was really slaying them eh? One Joe the Goose handball receive in the goalsquare for an easy one, then a quick kick lands in his lap after he let his opponent have front spot ...
Why wouldn't you take him off? :-\
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Yeah, Ty was really slaying them eh? One Joe the Goose handball receive in the goalsquare for an easy one, then a quick kick lands in his lap after he let his opponent have front spot ...
Why wouldn't you take him off? :-\
it doesnt matter how he got them
he is border line useless and a confidence player
when he kicks 2 in 2 m its pretty dumb to remove him
doesnt matter, dimma doesnt remember it ...
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Yeah, Ty was really slaying them eh? One Joe the Goose handball receive in the goalsquare for an easy one, then a quick kick lands in his lap after he let his opponent have front spot ...
Why wouldn't you take him off? :-\
it doesnt matter how he got them
he is border line useless and a confidence player
when he kicks 2 in 2 m its pretty dumb to remove him
doesnt matter, dimma doesnt remember it ...
So it doesn't matter how he got them? Really? Setting the bar nice & low there.
Ask Ty how many touches he had in the first half & for the whole game? How many tackles, eh Ty?
I'll guarantee you that Hardwick knows exactly why he dragged him, a couple of super-soft cheapies don't change the fact that he was playing extremely poorly. Forget the mediaspeak, Hardwick knows what he sent Ty out there to do & it wasn't being achieved. Why not drag him off?
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Yeah, Ty was really slaying them eh? One Joe the Goose handball receive in the goalsquare for an easy one, then a quick kick lands in his lap after he let his opponent have front spot ...
Why wouldn't you take him off? :-\
Out bodied and out position Gibson in that marking contest, no point trying to twist things just give credit where it's due. It's nice it happened for once
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Yeah, Ty was really slaying them eh? One Joe the Goose handball receive in the goalsquare for an easy one, then a quick kick lands in his lap after he let his opponent have front spot ...
Why wouldn't you take him off? :-\
it doesnt matter how he got them
he is border line useless and a confidence player
when he kicks 2 in 2 m its pretty dumb to remove him
doesnt matter, dimma doesnt remember it ...
So it doesn't matter how he got them? Really? Setting the bar nice & low there.
Ask Ty how many touches he had in the first half & for the whole game? How many tackles, eh Ty?
I'll guarantee you that Hardwick knows exactly why he dragged him, a couple of super-soft cheapies don't change the fact that he was playing extremely poorly. Forget the mediaspeak, Hardwick knows what he sent Ty out there to do & it wasn't being achieved. Why not drag him off?
Perhaps in theory
In reality Tyrone is an average player who relies a lot on confidence
To drag him cause he was statistically due for a rotation shows little football understaning for the coach that claims he did watch that part of the game ...
He was playing key forward it's not like he'd un a marathon
He often has low possession games or efforts with few one percenters , that not the reason he was benched
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On and off-field brain fades
Author: Bradley Dawson and Glenn Valencich
Source: SportsFan
Monday, May 09, 2016
Damien Hardwick (Richmond)
The Tiger coach needs to not only question his players' performances this season, but his own as well. On Friday night after Ty Vickery had just kicked his second goal in a few minutes to give Richmond the lead in the second quarter, the forward was substituted off for most of the remainder of the term. Coincidentally or not, in that time Hawthorn kicked three goals to take a handy advantage into the main break. When asked post-game about the move, Hardwick fumbled out that he 'couldn't exactly recall' it, that it was tough to get players off the ground sometimes, and that players come off when they are 'due for rotations'. You would think the way his side is going he and his coaching staff might be worrying a little less about pre-programmed interchanges and more about keeping the players on the field who are doing the job for them at particular points in games.
http://www.sportsfan.com.au/on-and-off-field-brain-fades/tabid/91/newsid/197099/default.aspx?cid=SF_LOWDOWN_AFL_article_onandofffieldbrainfades_090516
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They probably would have kicked six if he had stayed on
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They probably would have kicked six if he had stayed on
I believe the popular figure doing the rounds is 8 goals Chucky!
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You're confusing that with Jackstar's projections for Hamspud.......
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They probably would have kicked six if he had stayed on
I believe the popular figure doing the rounds is 8 goals Chucky!
Gibson looked pretty happy he was off. Took him a long time to return too. The point is not how many goals he would of kicked, it's he was denied a chance Of kicking any ... when he was hot , something that is rare. Which is the 4000th example of the off field staff having nfi of footballing related activities
"I don't remember that part" of the match is the cherry on top. Lunatic ... What the bells he doing on the box if not watching the game
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They probably would have kicked six if he had stayed on
I believe the popular figure doing the rounds is 8 goals Chucky!
Gibson looked pretty happy he was off. Took him a long time to return too. The point is not how many goals he would of kicked, it's he was denied a chance Of kicking any ... when he was hot , something that is rare. Which is the 4000th example of the off field staff having nfi of footballing related activities
"I don't remember that part" of the match is the cherry on top. Lunatic ... What the bells he doing on the box if not watching the game
It's the cream on top. Not the cherry.
Why the media has stayed away from that is anybody's guess :P
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Longer bench breaks here to stay: Vickery
AFL.com.au
11 May 2016
THE DAYS of short stints on the interchange bench are over and players need to get used to longer breaks within games, according to Richmond forward Ty Vickery.
Vickery's 10-minute spell during last Friday night's loss to Hawthorn was one of the main talking points of the match, with the tall forward taken from the ground after kicking back-to-back goals halfway through the second quarter.
The length of his break was unusual and Vickery admitted the team had struggled to find a rotation to get him back on, making the break longer than it should have been.
Still, under the interchange cap of 90 in 2016, he said players needed to be prepared for longer breaks as clubs search for the right balance with their rotations.
"It probably ended up being a bit longer, we just couldn't get a rotation for me to get back on," Vickery told AFL.com.au.
"We've got scheduled times thereabouts to come off, and obviously I'd just kicked a few goals before it.
"That's the way we operate … and whether it's the right or wrong call, it certainly didn't have an impact on the result of the match.
"As a forward you always want to be out there, not sitting on the bench, so you can contribute."
Vickery came to the bench after his second goal, which gave Richmond a two-point lead and significant momentum for the first time in the match.
The Tigers went goalless while he was on the pine, with Hawthorn kicking three goals to round out the quarter and take back the lead going into half time.
While the sight of a forward coming from the ground after kicking a goal frustrates fans, Vickery said it was a necessary part of the game.
"The reality is it's a really long game we play and you have to rotate to give yourself a rest but also to get people on – that's your role in a team," he said.
"If you're a midfielder and you get a couple of clearances in a row and have to come off, you certainly don't want to when you're feeling like you're involved in the game.
"Clubs are still probably finding the best way to go about it this year … they're confronted with a completely different set of rules to previous years.
"The days of having two-minute spells or three-minute spells have probably gone. It's up to four, five or six minutes now with fewer of them."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-11/longer-bench-breaks-here-to-stay-vickery
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Thanks for your input Ty now tell your story walking to another club
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What strikes me and has been a complaint for years has been the fact in most games we have played with just two tall fwds. When Vickery or Griffiths has had a rest or gone into the ruck it has left Riewoldt one out against three.
Long time 10 minutes to have just the one tall fwd by himself, structure goes out the window.
Surely Hardwick and co are aware of this and plan accordingly. yet Vickery can sit there for ten minutes and structure can go out the window.
Gunna say i am not sure who played on Vickery i thought it was Kaiden Brand but if Gibson at 189cm played on him all night then Vickery should have been clunking marks all night long.
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What strikes me and has been a complaint for years has been the fact in most games we have played with just two tall fwds. When Vickery or Griffiths has had a rest or gone into the ruck it has left Riewoldt one out against three.
Long time 10 minutes to have just the one tall fwd by himself, structure goes out the window.
Surely Hardwick and co are aware of this and plan accordingly. yet Vickery can sit there for ten minutes and structure can go out the window.
Gunna say i am not sure who played on Vickery i thought it was Kaiden Brand but if Gibson at 189cm played on him all night then Vickery should have been clunking marks all night long.
Gibson was playing on Vickery
Gibson was looking dejected when ty liked two in two mins
He was smiling when Tyrone got dragged
After the game , Dimma said he didn't watch that part of the game
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no he didnt
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no he didnt
"i dont remember it"
same shyte penny
he has one job and that is to remember the game of football in front of him he is 50% in charge of
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show me the quote you refer to?
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I'm pretty sure I'm not your mother
Chances are it's in this thread
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What strikes me and has been a complaint for years has been the fact in most games we have played with just two tall fwds. When Vickery or Griffiths has had a rest or gone into the ruck it has left Riewoldt one out against three.
Long time 10 minutes to have just the one tall fwd by himself, structure goes out the window.
Surely Hardwick and co are aware of this and plan accordingly. yet Vickery can sit there for ten minutes and structure can go out the window.
Gunna say i am not sure who played on Vickery i thought it was Kaiden Brand but if Gibson at 189cm played on him all night then Vickery should have been clunking marks all night long.
I think Dimma has tried to go with 3 talls and a Ruck but the problem is we just lack the quality. This week we did go in with 3 talls in Reiwoldt, Vickery and Griff and a ruck in Hampson. Problem is when we've tried this at times over the past couple years (swap Maric with Hampson or Griff), there has always been at least one of them just not performing meaning they get dropped (in Griff and Hampsons case - we all know Vickery doesn't get dropped)
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I'm pretty sure I'm not your mother
Chances are it's in this thread
yet you brought it up.
I dont believe it exists.......
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I'm pretty sure I'm not your mother
Chances are it's in this thread
yet you brought it up.
I dont believe it exists.......
On and off-field brain fades
Author: Bradley Dawson and Glenn Valencich
Source: SportsFan
Monday, May 09, 2016
Damien Hardwick (Richmond)
The Tiger coach needs to not only question his players' performances this season, but his own as well. On Friday night after Ty Vickery had just kicked his second goal in a few minutes to give Richmond the lead in the second quarter, the forward was substituted off for most of the remainder of the term. Coincidentally or not, in that time Hawthorn kicked three goals to take a handy advantage into the main break. When asked post-game about the move, Hardwick fumbled out that he 'couldn't exactly recall' it, that it was tough to get players off the ground sometimes, and that players come off when they are 'due for rotations'.
http://www.sportsfan.com.au/on-and-off-field-brain-fades/tabid/91/newsid/197099/default.aspx?cid=SF_LOWDOWN_AFL_article_onandofffieldbrainfades_090516
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fact is strange the fiction isnt it
couldnt make this stuff up
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What strikes me and has been a complaint for years has been the fact in most games we have played with just two tall fwds. When Vickery or Griffiths has had a rest or gone into the ruck it has left Riewoldt one out against three.
Long time 10 minutes to have just the one tall fwd by himself, structure goes out the window.
Surely Hardwick and co are aware of this and plan accordingly. yet Vickery can sit there for ten minutes and structure can go out the window.
Gunna say i am not sure who played on Vickery i thought it was Kaiden Brand but if Gibson at 189cm played on him all night then Vickery should have been clunking marks all night long.
I recon the reason we cannot go in with 3 talls and a ruckman, is because Griff and Vic are both 200cm tall, both soft as butter and are completely useless when the ball hits the ground.
We need more mobile KPF that can also help hold the footy in. Those 2 are crap. Teams just walk the footy out. We could play Jack, Vickery and say a Gunston/Darling type but I don't have one.
The other thing that the good teams have is manic small forwards. We need another speedy small forward that can tackle. Lloyd and Lambert aren't it. They both offer something different but not manic pressure.
So many holes....
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like mcbean ::)
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What strikes me and has been a complaint for years has been the fact in most games we have played with just two tall fwds. When Vickery or Griffiths has had a rest or gone into the ruck it has left Riewoldt one out against three.
Long time 10 minutes to have just the one tall fwd by himself, structure goes out the window.
Surely Hardwick and co are aware of this and plan accordingly. yet Vickery can sit there for ten minutes and structure can go out the window.
Gunna say i am not sure who played on Vickery i thought it was Kaiden Brand but if Gibson at 189cm played on him all night then Vickery should have been clunking marks all night long.
I recon the reason we cannot go in with 3 talls and a ruckman, is because Griff and Vic are both 200cm tall, both soft as butter and are completely useless when the ball hits the ground.
We need more mobile KPF that can also help hold the footy in. Those 2 are crap. Teams just walk the footy out. We could play Jack, Vickery and say a Gunston/Darling type but I don't have one.
The other thing that the good teams have is manic small forwards. We need another speedy small forward that can tackle. Lloyd and Lambert aren't it. They both offer something different but not manic pressure.
So many holes....
Mate, the only thing we do manically is run to the interchange bench! :banghead
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What strikes me and has been a complaint for years has been the fact in most games we have played with just two tall fwds. When Vickery or Griffiths has had a rest or gone into the ruck it has left Riewoldt one out against three.
Long time 10 minutes to have just the one tall fwd by himself, structure goes out the window.
Surely Hardwick and co are aware of this and plan accordingly. yet Vickery can sit there for ten minutes and structure can go out the window.
Gunna say i am not sure who played on Vickery i thought it was Kaiden Brand but if Gibson at 189cm played on him all night then Vickery should have been clunking marks all night long.
I recon the reason we cannot go in with 3 talls and a ruckman, is because Griff and Vic are both 200cm tall, both soft as butter and are completely useless when the ball hits the ground.
We need more mobile KPF that can also help hold the footy in. Those 2 are crap. Teams just walk the footy out. We could play Jack, Vickery and say a Gunston/Darling type but I don't have one.
The other thing that the good teams have is manic small forwards. We need another speedy small forward that can tackle. Lloyd and Lambert aren't it. They both offer something different but not manic pressure.
So many holes....
McBean - excellent below the knees......Butler - quick, 11 tackles in the VFL last week....Hardwick - clueless....
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What strikes me and has been a complaint for years has been the fact in most games we have played with just two tall fwds. When Vickery or Griffiths has had a rest or gone into the ruck it has left Riewoldt one out against three.
Long time 10 minutes to have just the one tall fwd by himself, structure goes out the window.
Surely Hardwick and co are aware of this and plan accordingly. yet Vickery can sit there for ten minutes and structure can go out the window.
Gunna say i am not sure who played on Vickery i thought it was Kaiden Brand but if Gibson at 189cm played on him all night then Vickery should have been clunking marks all night long.
I recon the reason we cannot go in with 3 talls and a ruckman, is because Griff and Vic are both 200cm tall, both soft as butter and are completely useless when the ball hits the ground.
We need more mobile KPF that can also help hold the footy in. Those 2 are crap. Teams just walk the footy out. We could play Jack, Vickery and say a Gunston/Darling type but I don't have one.
The other thing that the good teams have is manic small forwards. We need another speedy small forward that can tackle. Lloyd and Lambert aren't it. They both offer something different but not manic pressure.
So many holes....
McBean - excellent below the knees......Butler - quick, 11 tackles in the VFL last week....Hardwick - clueless....
McBean may be good when the ball hits the ground but he is like the other two IMO and isn't agile enough to create real pressure on opposition backline when they have the footy.
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Jeremy Cameron kicked a goal and came off
Cue the hysteria