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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: yellowandback on June 12, 2016, 09:49:29 AM

Title: Trade Cotchin
Post by: yellowandback on June 12, 2016, 09:49:29 AM
if the club truly wanted a move to deliver a number of picks in top 30 of this draft, then he is the one I would trade.
Despite being one of my favourite players, I think we can cover him the best with Vlas, Conca (yes Conca) & potentially Lambert filling the breach.
He would command 2 x 1st round draft picks and if we were to make Hurley an offer he can't refuse then it would release salary cap space.
IAll other trade options are either unrealistic (despite his class, Lids age and chronic Achilles would be unlikely to get a 1st rounder) or we need the player - Martin, Jack, Rance are untouchable.
All the others raised on the forum - Vickery, Griffiths, Conca, Edwards, etc etc aren't going to deliver great trades on the back of a crap year.
Vickery and Griffith in particular are no better than our long line of poor key position talent - limited players who weren't developed and have learnt habits which limit their application.
Those players might deliver a series of low level draft picks which might bundle up a decent pick for GWS or GC to use as points for academy picks but if we are serious about getting 5 or 6 picks in the top 30 then we need to trade Cotchin.
I love the guy but reckon both club and player might be better off parting company.
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: wayne on June 12, 2016, 10:17:10 AM
Cotchin is a brownlow medallist with the worst coach in the AFL.

Trade the coach.
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on June 12, 2016, 11:35:04 AM
Cotchin is a brownlow medallist with the worst coach in the AFL.

Trade the coach.
:thumbsup

If we trade Cotchin Id walk away from the club.
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 12, 2016, 11:36:52 AM
with the greatest respect Y&B i stopped reading this dribble after i read Conca's name.

Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: Penelope on June 12, 2016, 11:59:38 AM
as that reads, the OP would accept picks 17 and 18, (probably higher) for a bloke who has arguably won a brownlow.

picks that historically are borderline in the range that has a 50% chance of getting a 100 game player (43% for the club drafting them)
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: yellowandback on June 12, 2016, 12:03:24 PM
as that reads, the OP would accept picks 17 and 18, (probably higher) for a bloke who has arguably won a brownlow.

picks that historically are borderline in the range that has a 50% chance of getting a 100 game player (43% for the club drafting them)

Where did I say picks 17&18?
If Cotchin was playing at the level he won the Brownlow, you might have a point.
Adelaide seem to be doing well without Dangerfield, they have a better list but the principle still holds if the club decided to go hard at this years draft.
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: Diocletian on June 12, 2016, 12:09:56 PM
i stopped reading this dribble after i read Conca's name.

Yep  - laughable....
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: yellowandback on June 12, 2016, 12:26:07 PM
Ridiculous post WAT, I have no issue with the post being challenged but guess what? Its another view. I'd say the range is 1-2 through 17-18 and everything in between which might include players and draft pick combos.
I remember when West Coast traded Judd - there was a hue and cry but look at them now.
Interstate clubs - through their hand being forced - are a great example of making opportunity from seeming disaster.
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: WA Tiger on June 12, 2016, 12:29:17 PM
as that reads, the OP would accept picks 17 and 18, (probably higher) for a bloke who has arguably won a brownlow.

picks that historically are borderline in the range that has a 50% chance of getting a 100 game player (43% for the club drafting them)

Where did I say picks 17&18?
If Cotchin was playing at the level he won the Brownlow, you might have a point.
Adelaide seem to be doing well without Dangerfield, they have a better list but the principle still holds if the club decided to go hard at this years draft.

Oh yes, ridiculous....not twisting words at all.. :whistle
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: yellowandback on June 12, 2016, 12:30:43 PM
as that reads, the OP would accept picks 17 and 18, (probably higher) for a bloke who has arguably won a brownlow.

picks that historically are borderline in the range that has a 50% chance of getting a 100 game player (43% for the club drafting them)

Where did I say picks 17&18?
If Cotchin was playing at the level he won the Brownlow, you might have a point.
Adelaide seem to be doing well without Dangerfield, they have a better list but the principle still holds if the club decided to go hard at this years draft.

Oh yes, ridiculous....not twisting words at all.. :whistle

How is that twisting words? It's just a question - not that big a deal unless you are a precious child mate
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: Stalin on June 12, 2016, 01:00:21 PM
as that reads, the OP would accept picks 17 and 18, (probably higher) for a bloke who has arguably won a brownlow.

picks that historically are borderline in the range that has a 50% chance of getting a 100 game player (43% for the club drafting them)

Who's arguing apart from jobe
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: 🏅Dooks on June 12, 2016, 01:03:51 PM
as that reads, the OP would accept picks 17 and 18, (probably higher) for a bloke who has arguably won a brownlow.

picks that historically are borderline in the range that has a 50% chance of getting a 100 game player (43% for the club drafting them)

Where did I say picks 17&18?
If Cotchin was playing at the level he won the Brownlow, you might have a point.
Adelaide seem to be doing well without Dangerfield, they have a better list but the principle still holds if the club decided to go hard at this years draft.

Don't bother, apparently there are only few here that are the experts, the rest of us don't know poo and we shouldn't have an opinion or post. Just let them twist your words to suit theirs!!

If i may clarify, as peviously stated there are a good half a dozen of experts including myself.

Then theres posters who get it right most of the time.

Then theres those in denial of reality, post illogical rubbish or have their finger so far from the pulse its not funny
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: Yeahright on June 12, 2016, 01:38:11 PM
FMD at half the comments and especially that last one :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: (•))(©™ on June 12, 2016, 04:29:13 PM
Conca = Tee-hee.
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: Penelope on June 12, 2016, 07:42:44 PM
as that reads, the OP would accept picks 17 and 18, (probably higher) for a bloke who has arguably won a brownlow.

picks that historically are borderline in the range that has a 50% chance of getting a 100 game player (43% for the club drafting them)

Where did I say picks 17&18?
If Cotchin was playing at the level he won the Brownlow, you might have a point.
Adelaide seem to be doing well without Dangerfield, they have a better list but the principle still holds if the club decided to go hard at this years draft.

You said top 20 picks. does that not include 17 and 18?
I never said that is specifically what you meant, just that the way your post read it could mean those picks.

As for WATs stupidity, it clearly knows no bounds and doesnt warrant a reply
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: The Machine on June 12, 2016, 07:44:48 PM
Was fantastic when it mattered today. was hurt early in the last but kept going and willing himself on the contest :clapping
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: JP Tiger on June 12, 2016, 07:51:46 PM
11 possessions in the last quarter, dragged us over the line after a mid week illness.  Dusty was BOG but Cotch was a close second ...   :thumbsup
Title: Re: Trade Cotchin
Post by: tony_montana on June 12, 2016, 07:52:44 PM
no, you dont trade your captain,

and even if he wasnt our captain I wouldnt change my mind