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Title: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on August 15, 2016, 07:59:13 PM
Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed?

Herald Sun
15 August 2016


RICHMOND suffered more heartbreak when it was overrun by Geelong, but should Trent Cotchin have been kicking for victory after the siren?

The Tigers led by 35 points at three-quarter time only to stop to a walk in the final term as Geelong stormed home.

The Cats slammed on 6.9 to 0.0 to lead by 10 points with less than two minutes remaining, before Ty Vickery kicked a goal to cut the margin to four with about 30 seconds left.

The Tigers’ only hope was a quick centre clearance and a goal and their chances looked shot when Patrick Dangerfield got his hands on the ball.

But under pressure from Dustin Martin he handballed to Sam Menegola, who was run down by Tigers skipper Trent Cotchin, earning a holding the ball free kick.

Cotchin wasted no time bombing the ball inside 50, where Jack Riewoldt flew for a miracle mark but couldn’t hold on and the siren sounded seconds later.

But rewinding the frantic finish reveals a bad miss by the umpire that could have cost Richmond a shot at victory.

As Cotchin prepared to take his free kick Dangerfield lingered just a metre or two away and Joel Selwood ran even closer, coming from well behind Cotchin as he ran to make the contest in Geelong’s defensive 50.

At the start of the season the AFL increased the protected area around the mark to 10m, and numerous players have been penalised for offences less blatant than Dangerfield and Selwood’s.

(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4f1b88eb27ea3d69d2fa4c4bd8ef673d?width=650)
Joel Selwood and Patrick Dangerfield are almost within touching distance of Trent Cotchin after he earns a free kick.

Last month Hawthorn kicked two crucial goals against Sydney from 50m penalties, including one to Jono O’Rourke after Kieren Jack didn’t get out of the protected area quick enough.

That call was criticised by Michael Christian, a member of the AFL Laws of the Game Committee: “The rule is designed if you’re outside the protected zone and you run into the protected zone, 50 straight away. But when you’re already in there you’ve got to give time to the player to run out.”

Selwood and Dangerfield had both bases covered.

A 50m penalty would have brought Cotchin to within 30m from goal and likely shooting after the siren.

He isn’t the most reliable kick for goal on the Richmond list, booting 7.6 this season. But at least he would have had a chance to join Sam Lloyd in Tiger immortality.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-could-have-had-a-shot-to-beat-geelong-if-trent-cotchin-was-awarded-a-50m-penalty/news-story/a77f3edd68556dc2575c50b0712a27d0
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: JP Tiger on August 15, 2016, 11:17:37 PM
It might be an unpopular view, but why wasn't this a 50mtr penalty & a shot at goal?  Not one but two Geelong players caught in the 10mtr protected zone as Cotchin goes to take his kick, but the umpire missed it!
Hand the whistle to your Guide Dog next week!     :wallywink 
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on August 15, 2016, 11:21:08 PM
When you were 35 points up at three quarter time, an umpiring decision in the last 20 seconds of the match isn't why you lost.
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 15, 2016, 11:26:29 PM
When you were 35 points up at three quarter time, an umpiring decision in the last 20 seconds of the match isn't why you lost.
Add the misses on Riewoldt that resulted in the ball going forward for a goal to Geelong and that in itself is a 12 point turnaround.....makes potentially 18 points worth of mistakes.

That is huge in a low scoring game.
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on August 16, 2016, 05:52:59 AM
When you were 35 points up at three quarter time, an umpiring decision in the last 20 seconds of the match isn't why you lost.

While that is true, the fact remains there was a clear 50 metre penalty which did rob us of an opportunity to win the game
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 16, 2016, 06:21:59 AM
When you were 35 points up at three quarter time, an umpiring decision in the last 20 seconds of the match isn't why you lost.


Probably

But 3 blatant howlers in 1 qtr; 2 of which happened in the your F50 isn't exactly helpful
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on August 16, 2016, 06:57:07 AM
Why did Vickery get two free kicks for falling over from a puff of wind
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Owl on August 16, 2016, 08:34:40 AM
That is how Ty rolls, like a tumbleweed
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on August 16, 2016, 10:43:56 AM
Confirmed; we should have been given a shot.

Given Chimps efforts at goal over the past few years, Geelong still get the points  :rollin

https://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/08-16/the-umpires-view-richmond-denied-last-chance-at-geelong-victory#p7Ai97Mkt3gPDzq4.97
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 16, 2016, 11:15:13 AM
lol.

They lost because they're insipid.
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: unplugged on August 16, 2016, 11:29:06 AM
At least Cotchin's hair looked good.
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Owl on August 16, 2016, 04:35:53 PM
`we wuz stuffed and robbed
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 16, 2016, 07:49:41 PM
Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed?

Herald Sun
15 August 2016


RICHMOND suffered more heartbreak when it was overrun by Geelong, but should Trent Cotchin have been kicking for victory after the siren?

The Tigers led by 35 points at three-quarter time only to stop to a walk in the final term as Geelong stormed home.

The Cats slammed on 6.9 to 0.0 to lead by 10 points with less than two minutes remaining, before Ty Vickery kicked a goal to cut the margin to four with about 30 seconds left.

The Tigers’ only hope was a quick centre clearance and a goal and their chances looked shot when Patrick Dangerfield got his hands on the ball.

But under pressure from Dustin Martin he handballed to Sam Menegola, who was run down by Tigers skipper Trent Cotchin, earning a holding the ball free kick.

Cotchin wasted no time bombing the ball inside 50, where Jack Riewoldt flew for a miracle mark but couldn’t hold on and the siren sounded seconds later.

But rewinding the frantic finish reveals a bad miss by the umpire that could have cost Richmond a shot at victory.

As Cotchin prepared to take his free kick Dangerfield lingered just a metre or two away and Joel Selwood ran even closer, coming from well behind Cotchin as he ran to make the contest in Geelong’s defensive 50.

At the start of the season the AFL increased the protected area around the mark to 10m, and numerous players have been penalised for offences less blatant than Dangerfield and Selwood’s.

(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4f1b88eb27ea3d69d2fa4c4bd8ef673d?width=650)
Joel Selwood and Patrick Dangerfield are almost within touching distance of Trent Cotchin after he earns a free kick.

Last month Hawthorn kicked two crucial goals against Sydney from 50m penalties, including one to Jono O’Rourke after Kieren Jack didn’t get out of the protected area quick enough.

That call was criticised by Michael Christian, a member of the AFL Laws of the Game Committee: “The rule is designed if you’re outside the protected zone and you run into the protected zone, 50 straight away. But when you’re already in there you’ve got to give time to the player to run out.”

Selwood and Dangerfield had both bases covered.

A 50m penalty would have brought Cotchin to within 30m from goal and likely shooting after the siren.

He isn’t the most reliable kick for goal on the Richmond list, booting 7.6 this season. But at least he would have had a chance to join Sam Lloyd in Tiger immortality.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-could-have-had-a-shot-to-beat-geelong-if-trent-cotchin-was-awarded-a-50m-penalty/news-story/a77f3edd68556dc2575c50b0712a27d0

So, therefore it's Cotchins fault for not being aware of the situation so he could appeal directly to the ump.
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on August 16, 2016, 08:00:45 PM
Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed?

Herald Sun
15 August 2016


RICHMOND suffered more heartbreak when it was overrun by Geelong, but should Trent Cotchin have been kicking for victory after the siren?

The Tigers led by 35 points at three-quarter time only to stop to a walk in the final term as Geelong stormed home.

The Cats slammed on 6.9 to 0.0 to lead by 10 points with less than two minutes remaining, before Ty Vickery kicked a goal to cut the margin to four with about 30 seconds left.

The Tigers’ only hope was a quick centre clearance and a goal and their chances looked shot when Patrick Dangerfield got his hands on the ball.

But under pressure from Dustin Martin he handballed to Sam Menegola, who was run down by Tigers skipper Trent Cotchin, earning a holding the ball free kick.

Cotchin wasted no time bombing the ball inside 50, where Jack Riewoldt flew for a miracle mark but couldn’t hold on and the siren sounded seconds later.

But rewinding the frantic finish reveals a bad miss by the umpire that could have cost Richmond a shot at victory.

As Cotchin prepared to take his free kick Dangerfield lingered just a metre or two away and Joel Selwood ran even closer, coming from well behind Cotchin as he ran to make the contest in Geelong’s defensive 50.

At the start of the season the AFL increased the protected area around the mark to 10m, and numerous players have been penalised for offences less blatant than Dangerfield and Selwood’s.

(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4f1b88eb27ea3d69d2fa4c4bd8ef673d?width=650)
Joel Selwood and Patrick Dangerfield are almost within touching distance of Trent Cotchin after he earns a free kick.

Last month Hawthorn kicked two crucial goals against Sydney from 50m penalties, including one to Jono O’Rourke after Kieren Jack didn’t get out of the protected area quick enough.

That call was criticised by Michael Christian, a member of the AFL Laws of the Game Committee: “The rule is designed if you’re outside the protected zone and you run into the protected zone, 50 straight away. But when you’re already in there you’ve got to give time to the player to run out.”

Selwood and Dangerfield had both bases covered.

A 50m penalty would have brought Cotchin to within 30m from goal and likely shooting after the siren.

He isn’t the most reliable kick for goal on the Richmond list, booting 7.6 this season. But at least he would have had a chance to join Sam Lloyd in Tiger immortality.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-could-have-had-a-shot-to-beat-geelong-if-trent-cotchin-was-awarded-a-50m-penalty/news-story/a77f3edd68556dc2575c50b0712a27d0

So, therefore it's Cotchins fault for not being aware of the situation so he could appeal directly to the ump.

Yes it is possible some Whiney old moles may look at it that way
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 16, 2016, 08:43:47 PM
Says the whiniest old moll  :snidegrin

No. We all must think like Chuck, because chucki has to have it that way.
We understand.
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on August 16, 2016, 09:05:05 PM
Thanks for the understanding
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 16, 2016, 09:27:51 PM
It's always been there.
You just needed to look.
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 16, 2016, 09:46:06 PM
You guys are hilarious! :lol
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 16, 2016, 09:50:39 PM
So, Cotchin should have been aware.
That's a more grown up way of looking at things, don't you think?

Only little girls and boys go sooki and blame other things.

It's not really a good look, even for trolls.

Be accountable and you will benefit.
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on August 16, 2016, 10:25:28 PM
So, Cotchin should have been aware.
That's a more grown up way of looking at things, don't you think?

Only little girls and boys go sooki and blame other things.

It's not really a good look, even for trolls.

Be accountable and you will benefit.

That's funny 'cause I just thought the umpires might do their stuffing jobs and pay a black + white decision - not once but twice.
But hey, footballs just like cricket - you have to appeal for a decision,
I can see Cotch, bended  knee, finger in air turned around to the umpire screaming "ooooowsaboutthaaaat"
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 16, 2016, 10:28:00 PM
Spilt milk.
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 17, 2016, 05:47:18 AM
At least Cotchin's hair looked good.

This.
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on August 17, 2016, 06:05:37 AM
Spilt milk.

Ironic much?
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Owl on August 17, 2016, 08:32:42 AM
there is an argument for umpires actually doing their paid job properly, a weak one I know but I am playing devils advocate.  As for Cotchin being accountable for umpiring decisions, Here is a tissue Ox, you have a bit of scat on your chin.
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Harry on August 17, 2016, 08:37:47 AM
Who cares.  We're poo regardless
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on August 17, 2016, 09:08:27 AM
there is an argument for umpires actually doing their paid job properly, a weak one I know but I am playing devils advocate.  As for Cotchin being accountable for umpiring decisions, Here is a tissue Ox, you have a bit of scat on your chin.

See, that's my one big issue with Cotch; he has NO idea when he should be given 50m penalties in the dying seconds of matches which are essentially dead rubbers.

Trade/delist
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 17, 2016, 10:03:30 AM
there is an argument for umpires actually doing their paid job properly, a weak one I know but I am playing devils advocate.  As for Cotchin being accountable for umpiring decisions, Here is a tissue Ox, you have a bit of scat on your chin.

See, that's my one big issue with Cotch; he has NO idea when he should be given 50m penalties in the dying seconds of matches which are essentially dead rubbers.

Trade/delist
I think he should be traded as there are unsubstantiated rumours that he is a born again Christian and doesn't drink
Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 17, 2016, 10:46:08 AM
We were robbed.
Boo hoo.
Have a look at yourselves.  :snidegrin.

Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 17, 2016, 10:54:39 AM
You guys should all write a letter to the umpires and tell them.  :clapping

Title: Re: Does this picture prove Tigers were robbed of victory? .... (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Yeahright on August 17, 2016, 11:54:09 AM
LOL at Cotchin should have appealed for the free kick but hating Reiwoldt because he wants free kicks.