One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 22, 2016, 08:20:49 PM
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Timmy tonight on Talking Footy with his latest wild rumour ::). Said the "jungle drums are beating" about Jack not being happy at Richmond.
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You couldn't blame him playing in a side and game plan created by Hardwick. We see it every week so I am sure Jack would too..
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Absolute garbage comment by little Timmy
Jack was one of the hand full of senior players to watch the reserves yesterday
If he was that disgruntled , why would he give up his Sunday afternoon to watch the reserves
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Absolute garbage comment by little Timmy
Jack was one of the hand full of senior players to watch the reserves yesterday
If he was that disgruntled , why would he give up his Sunday afternoon to watch the reserves
Nothing comment by Watson. Jack loves the club and players and will be a one club player.
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Absolute garbage comment by little Timmy
Jack was one of the hand full of senior players to watch the reserves yesterday
If he was that disgruntled , why would he give up his Sunday afternoon to watch the reserves
Nothing comment by Watson. Jack loves the club and players and will be a one club player.
Yep
Footy classifed (bin man Barrett) implying that club not happy with Jack and will entertqin discussions about a trade :rollin
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Footy classified is all over it. Club wants him but Jack is disgruntled. Back page news now.
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Jack has his weekly segment tomorrow noght on AFL360
Should be fun ;D
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If Jack wasn't disgruntled at the moment I'd be very upset. We're a rabble and are hugely under performing.
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More on Footy Classified.
This all started on the weekend on MMM when Spud Frawley during the game said Jack is playing like he doesn't want to be there. BT then chimes in with more of the same.
Tonight, Hutchy said both of them wouldn't have said anything like that if there's wasn't something behind it. Spud is a St Kilda man and knows Nick Riewoldt who is close to Jack. Caro said Nick and Jack are more like brothers than cousins and there's always talk of Jack and Nick playing together for one year. Barrett chipped in and said Nick isn't leaving St Kilda.
Barrett then claimed that Richmond has issues with Jack because otherwise he'd be in the leadership group. He then added that only Rance, Dusty and Cotch are untouchable and that Richmond, while saying nothing publicly, will listen to offers for Jack and Lids if they enticing.
Caro disputed this as she said she's heard nothing regarding Jack being traded. Barrett then replied "Then why isn't Jack in the Richmond leadership group?". Hutchy chipped in and said to Barrett that Frawley and BT were saying Jack had issues with the club where you (Damian) are saying the club has issues with Jack.
Caro then said Jack is contracted until 2018 and Barrett backtracked a bit by saying he believes Jack will still be at Richmond next year.
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No doubt sick of Dimwicks spin like all the rest of us. Who could blame him for wanting out. Currently about 40k members want out so no surprises. Benny fail and Peggy sue going to screw this club for good with their blind support of Dudwick
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Barrett also said Jack's body language this season has been poor at times
Hutchy & Matty said that was rubbish he's been outstanding this year
Bin man Barrett then used as example Saturday, it qas the only example he could give
::)
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I'm with the others.
It's obvious he's disgruntled and it's with that moron coach.
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'Bruise-free' Jack Riewoldt 'playing as if he doesn't want to be at Richmond'
By Michael Oxford
sportingnews.com
22 August 2016
Several AFL personalities have declared Richmond star Jack Riewoldt might not be at the club in 2017.
Riewoldt put in a lacklustre performance, gathering only nine disposals, at the MCG on Saturday as the Tigers went down to St Kilda by nine points.
Triple M commentator Brian Taylor believes the Tigers forward is displaying signs that suggest he could be playing elsewhere next season.
"I think that he has already got in his mind that he wants out," Taylor told The Rub.
"I don’t think he is happy about playing up the ground."
Former Richmond coach Danny Frawley agreed with Taylor, condemning Riewoldt's body language during the match against the Saints.
"(Riewoldt’s) playing as if he doesn’t want to be there," Frawley said during the Triple M game broadcast.
"I’m not sure whether he has put the cue in the rack but to me, I’m watching (Sean Dempster) and he’s all over (him).
"The way he is playing he might as well go up to the 80’s celebration, cause he is just playing bruise-free footy at the moment."
Riewoldt has played 201 games and kicked 482 goals for the Tigers, but has been surprising absent from the club's leadership group over the past couple of seasons.
Richmond could finish as low as 14th in 2016 and Herald Sun journalist Jay Clark is adamant Riewoldt should move on to different club - with a swag of teams likely to be keen.
"I'm thinking Jack Riewoldt needs to seriously consider his trade options," Clark told Triple M.
"And the big question is, is Richmond going to be top four or bottom four over the next two years - or what are they going to be closer to?
"This is a man who is not in the leadership group and has strangely been snubbed from it for the past couple of seasons for reasons I still don’t understand.
"When I listen to Jack I’m always quite impressed by his maturity and his passion for the Richmond Football Club.
"I think that Jack Riewoldt is the man St Kilda and Hawthorn would love to have, that Collingwood would do backflips for and even Gold Coast could have the cash to go after him.
"I think this trade period contains some massive bombshells, I think they are coming – the fuse just hasn’t been lit yet."
http://www.sportingnews.com/afl/news/bruise-stuff-riewoldt-playing-as-if-he-doesnt-want-to-be-at-richmond/td2pa4ty01ff1cd5ybes6i4en
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All rubbish stories. All rubbish reporters. ;D
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All rubbish stories. All rubbish reporters. ;D
You hope and so do I but.....
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All rubbish stories. All rubbish reporters. ;D
You hope and so do I but.....
Look l would care less if he left anyway cause he is no outstanding champion FF & not breaking any records.
l reckon Deledio would kick more goals as a permanent FF
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We trading him too
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Bet they don't ;D
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Jack to GWS for Patton & Lobb :shh
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Jack to Hawthorn for Clarko and Buckenara
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Would be a disaster if he left. He is a very good player. To prevent a walkout of players from this club the coach needs to go.
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trade!!!! we have paper mache and hopefully ty signs on the dotted line :birthday
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The media feeding off the wounded club trying to complete the take down so they can dance on the carcass.
Vultures
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The point is that Jack would be better off somewhere else.
If you give any thought to the idea that Lids would be better off going elsewhere to gain some late measure of success then it is even more true for Jack.
At his age and with his recent injuries it really is doubtful whether Lids is that attractive an option for a contender, but Jack.....
When Hardwick arrived he saw Jack as a flanker rather than a key forward.
He then used Jack away from the goals and gave the FF spot to Vickery.
Jack has made some comments indicating he is unhappy with the game plan and coaching. Comments he has had to then rationalise to avoid criticising Hardwick.
Even though it is obvious he wants to be in the leadership group he is left out.
Lids has only got one, maybe two, good years left. He has given good service to Richmond and will not see any further success over the next couple of years under Hardwick's coaching.
The same is true for Jack. He has maybe two good years left and under Hardwick's plan will have little influence over that time.
If Jack were to go to a contender then he would have a couple of years to win a premiership.
I was talking to some Essendon fans at that game a month or so ago and was saying that Jack is one of the best forwards going around. They were sceptical of course but I used the case of Hawthorn. I said that if Jack were at the Hawks he would be getting the ball delivered down his throat from players like Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis, Burgoyne and Cyril Rioli. They admitted he would be almost unstoppable under that case.
If we are to keep Hardwick as is expected then Jack would be better off at a contender like Hawthorn or even Geelong.
The other thing that was mentioned was Darcy saying on Talking Footy that it was a done deal for Vickery to go to Hawthorn. I find this mind-boggling. While I admit that Vickery under Clarkson's coaching may become the dominant player we all hoped for, I would have to say that given a choice, Jack is such a better choice than Ty for the Hawks. There's no effort involved with Jack - stick him at full forward and let their mids deliver. He'd do the rest. His goal kicking would go back to its best with less running up field.
The have lost Buddy and Roughy over the last couple of years and have lately shown they are really short of key forwards. They have plenty of money since Buddy (and Roughy) left so that's not a problem. The weird thing is that Ty and Jack would both cost about the same. Ty would be more expensive since he's a free agent looking for a better pay packet but Jack would be looking for success rather than money. The weird thing is that if Jack does go to Hawthorn then we will probably overpay to keep Ty as a last resort. I seriously doubt whether Jack would go to the Hawks if they also took Ty. Same problems that he has at Richmond.
If we keep Hardwick then let Jack go. But if that's your thinking then Rance has got to be the next one. The best key defender in the comp who has voiced the same concerns as Jack about the coaching. Strangely enough it is the Hawks who again would be the perfect fit for Alex. They really need that key defender since Lake left.
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All rubbish stories. All rubbish reporters. ;D
You hope and so do I but.....
Look l would care less if he left anyway cause he is no outstanding champion FF & not breaking any records.
l reckon Deledio would kick more goals as a permanent FF
Spot on, mate.
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The point is that Jack would be better off somewhere else.
If you give any thought to the idea that Lids would be better off going elsewhere to gain some late measure of success then it is even more true for Jack.
At his age and with his recent injuries it really is doubtful whether Lids is that attractive an option for a contender, but Jack.....
When Hardwick arrived he saw Jack as a flanker rather than a key forward.
He then used Jack away from the goals and gave the FF spot to Vickery.
Jack has made some comments indicating he is unhappy with the game plan and coaching. Comments he has had to then rationalise to avoid criticising Hardwick.
Even though it is obvious he wants to be in the leadership group he is left out.
Lids has only got one, maybe two, good years left. He has given good service to Richmond and will not see any further success over the next couple of years under Hardwick's coaching.
The same is true for Jack. He has maybe two good years left and under Hardwick's plan will have little influence over that time.
If Jack were to go to a contender then he would have a couple of years to win a premiership.
I was talking to some Essendon fans at that game a month or so ago and was saying that Jack is one of the best forwards going around. They were sceptical of course but I used the case of Hawthorn. I said that if Jack were at the Hawks he would be getting the ball delivered down his throat from players like Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis, Burgoyne and Cyril Rioli. They admitted he would be almost unstoppable under that case.
If we are to keep Hardwick as is expected then Jack would be better off at a contender like Hawthorn or even Geelong.
The other thing that was mentioned was Darcy saying on Talking Footy that it was a done deal for Vickery to go to Hawthorn. I find this mind-boggling. While I admit that Vickery under Clarkson's coaching may become the dominant player we all hoped for, I would have to say that given a choice, Jack is such a better choice than Ty for the Hawks. There's no effort involved with Jack - stick him at full forward and let their mids deliver. He'd do the rest. His goal kicking would go back to its best with less running up field.
The have lost Buddy and Roughy over the last couple of years and have lately shown they are really short of key forwards. They have plenty of money since Buddy (and Roughy) left so that's not a problem. The weird thing is that Ty and Jack would both cost about the same. Ty would be more expensive since he's a free agent looking for a better pay packet but Jack would be looking for success rather than money. The weird thing is that if Jack does go to Hawthorn then we will probably overpay to keep Ty as a last resort. I seriously doubt whether Jack would go to the Hawks if they also took Ty. Same problems that he has at Richmond.
If we keep Hardwick then let Jack go. But if that's your thinking then Rance has got to be the next one. The best key defender in the comp who has voiced the same concerns as Jack about the coaching. Strangely enough it is the Hawks who again would be the perfect fit for Alex. They really need that key defender since Lake left.
:lol :lol :lol
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We are truly stuffed if Jack goes. No ifs or buts. Our forward line would consist of Vickery (most likely gone), Griff, McBean, Moore, Elton and Chol if they push him forward again. We'll be an absolute basket case and will expose (if it's possible to be even more exposed) how truly awful our set up and F50 entries are
"This is a man who is not in the leadership group and has strangely been snubbed from it for the past couple of seasons for reasons I still don’t understand.
Stuff me these journos. One minute they're all over Jack citing poor body language, demonstrative, egotistical etc. and the next they claim they "don't understand" why he's not in the leadership group. They try and have it every which way
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If Jack & Rance both say "either the coach goes or we do", Halfstep will be cleaning out his desk within half an hour....would probably only take one of them to say it....
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If Jack & Rance both say "either the coach goes or we do", Halfstep will be cleaning out his desk within half an hour....would probably only take one them to say it....
And that would be a great comprimise.
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We can only hope.....
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We are truly stuffed if Jack goes. No ifs or buts. Our forward line would consist of Vickery (most likely gone), Griff, McBean, Moore, Elton and Chol if they push him forward again. We'll be an absolute basket case and will expose (if it's possible to be even more exposed) how truly awful our set up and F50 entries are
"This is a man who is not in the leadership group and has strangely been snubbed from it for the past couple of seasons for reasons I still don’t understand.
Stuff me these journos. One minute they're all over Jack citing poor body language, demonstrative, egotistical etc. and the next they claim they "don't understand" why he's not in the leadership group. They try and have it every which way
Let's be honest, it wouldn't matter who we had in our forward line, our slow poo footy kills any lope anyone would have of kicking a winning score. The problem isn't Jack....
Harfwit has put this club back 5 year IMO
We are a pussy club
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Jack just shot this rumour down on 360 & called Barrett out as a bullshitter
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:clapping will never leave and it was a great response.....now for the real stuff Saturday night. Love Jack and is a ripping fella!
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Grigg, Houli, Hunt, all been playing like they want out too
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Grigg, Houli, Hunt, all been playing like they want out too
No. Unfortunately that's the way they play when they want to win….. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Grigg, Houli, Hunt, all been playing like they want out too
:pray :pray :pray
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We are truly stuffed if Jack goes. No ifs or buts. Our forward line would consist of Vickery (most likely gone), Griff, McBean, Moore, Elton and Chol if they push him forward again. We'll be an absolute basket case and will expose (if it's possible to be even more exposed) how truly awful our set up and F50 entries are
"This is a man who is not in the leadership group and has strangely been snubbed from it for the past couple of seasons for reasons I still don’t understand.
Stuff me these journos. One minute they're all over Jack citing poor body language, demonstrative, egotistical etc. and the next they claim they "don't understand" why he's not in the leadership group. They try and have it every which way
Let's be honest, it wouldn't matter who we had in our forward line, our slow poo footy kills any lope anyone would have of kicking a winning score. The problem isn't Jack....
Harfwit has put this club back 5 year IMO
We are a pussy club
Agree BT.
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Riewoldt is going nowhere: Ox
John Takemura
SEN
23 Aug 2016, 08:23AM
Talk surrounding the future of Jack Riewoldt at Richmond is absolute nonsense, according to David Schwarz.
It was suggested last night on Footy Classified that Riewoldt who is contracted until the end of 2019 could be put up for trade at the end of the year, while other commentators have criticised what they see as poor body language.
Schwarz sees it a case of the silly season well underway with plenty of rumour and innuendo, just like what has been playing out with Nat Fyfe’s contract talks at Fremantle.
“Just remember this is the time of silly season, this is the time where rumours and innuendo will circulate,” he told SEN Breakfast.
“The Nat Fyfe story has gone around already, that’s one. This is another one.
“Jack Riewoldt isn’t going anywhere.
“From my understanding of the Richmond Football Club if they lost Jack Riewoldt because they thought they could do a better trade or get better players in, well the club deserves to be where they are at.”
He says Riewoldt exemplifies what Richmond hopes to create and declared them major losers at the trade table if they decided to move him on.
“Jack Riewoldt whether you like him or not is one player that wears the heart on his sleeve, he embodies what trying is trying to create, which is passion and emotion,” said Schwarz.
“He’s a damn fine player and won Coleman Medals.
“If Richmond trade him out, unless they get two first-rounders or a Nat Fyfe they’ve lost on the deal big time.
“I reckon it’s a rubbish story.”
Tim Watson agrees with Schwarz and says the only way Riewoldt would leave is if he told the club he was disillusioned with what is happening around him.
“Where he’s at with that deal…if he’s contracted until the end of 2019, to get out of that contract he has to say to Richmond there’s no way I want to play here,” he said.
“I’m so disenfranchised with the football club, it’s over.
“Then they (Richmond) have to find a club that satisfies their needs and wants.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/08-16/riewoldt-is-going-nowhere-ox#QKTEWzEMTbyGzfqT.97
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Jack just shot this rumour down on 360 & called Barrett out as a rubbishter
Jack Riewoldt has hit back at critics calling for his head to roll at Richmond
Sarah Olle
Foxsports
24 August 2016
JACK Riewoldt has refuted claims he should be traded from Richmond, vehemently denying claims he has caused trouble at Punt Road.
“It’s a complete fabrication and it’s frustrating, but it’s irresponsible by the people saying it as well,” he told Fox Footy’s AFL 360.
“I’ve got three years left to go on my contract. I spoke probably three weeks ago about what loyalty and success meant to me and I was pretty stern down the loyalty path.
“I’m disappointed that people are making that conversation about me. I think I’d probably say after last week’s performance — which was probably my worst game in the last three years — I was pretty disappointed with the way I played.
“At the moment, it’s just clickbait and unfortunately I think we’ve seen journalism go down the side where back in the good old days ... they were actually just reporting the story, rather than to light the fire under it to see if there was any smoke there.
“You take it with a grain of salt and just move on. As far as I’m concerned it’s yellow and black all the way.”
While Riewoldt isn’t in the leadership group at Richmond, he said he still performed a valuable leadership role at the club, where he has played 201 games since debuting in 2007.
Initially awkward in front of the media, the 27-year-old said he’d worked hard to transform himself into one of the Tigers’ key spokesmen.
“I still have a really important role to play in the direction of the group,” he said.
“I’ve really changed a lot of things in terms of my leadership over the past three years. I’ve been involved with the younger guys and being out of the leadership group has actually allowed me to develop and have better relationships with the younger guys coming through.
“It’s really enhanced my view on where we can get back to pretty quickly. Spending time with guys like Daniel Rioli, Oleg Markov — I do trade school with nine other young guys at the footy club — the experiences I’m having with them that I may not have had in previous years have certainly bonded my relationships down there.
“As far as I’m concerned, as far as my teammates are concerned, I’m an integral part of the football club going forward.”
Riewoldt said despite the disappointing season, he was buoyed by the emergence of a number of young kids, who now had ten or more games to their name.
Rioli was awarded this week’s Rising Star nomination, capping off a solid debut season, where he has kicked two goals on five occasions, while Markov, Corey Ellis and Connor Menadue are all 20 years or younger.
Riewoldt said the Tigers’ last home and away game against Sydney would leave them in good stead over the summer.
“There may not be points to play with, but there’s certainly experience for our younger guys.”
http://www.stuff-riewoldt-has-hit-back-at-critics-calling-for-his-head-to-roll-at-richmond/news-story/db214bcf7ae201468858aa1fac8494af
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Riewoldt wants to remain a Tiger
Herald Sun
24 August 2016
RICHMOND forward Jack Riewoldt says he has no interest in leaving the Tigers this off-season.
Having missed finals this year the Tigers are set to undergo a rebuild in the off-season.
Riewoldt would command a high price on the trade market however, he insists he wants to stay at Richmond and help return the club to finals.
“As far as I’m concerned, I’ve got three years left to go on my contract,” he said.
“I spoke two weeks ago … about loyalty and success and what it meant to me. I was pretty stern down the loyalty path.
“I’m disappointed that people are making that conversation about me. I probably think it is after last week’s performance which was probably my worst game for the last three years. I was pretty disappointed with the way I played.”
Riewoldt also dismissed suggestions he was a negative influence on the Richmond playing group.
Despite not being in the club’s leadership group, Riewoldt said he had worked hard to build bonds with the Tigers’ young players.
“As far as I’m concerned and my teammates are concerned … I see myself as an integral part of the football club going forward. I think a lot of the other senior players and junior players see me there as well,” he said on Fox Footy.
“I’m not in the official leadership group but I still have a really important role to play in the direction of the group. I’ve really changed a lot of things in terms of my leadership qualities in the last three years.
“Being out of the leadership group has actually allowed me to develop and have better relationships with the younger guys coming through.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-stuff-riewoldt-says-he-has-no-interest-in-leaving-the-tigers/news-story/3f07410e188984e9f31e996af110929e
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Hardwick's game plan is the problem. Slow ball movement into the forward line means an inability to kick large scores and puts enormous and unwarranted pressure on a player like Jack.
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If Jack & Rance both say "either the coach goes or we do", Halfstep will be cleaning out his desk within half an hour....would probably only take one of them to say it....
Well it was the players who got rid of Wallace in the end. This board is averse to sacking coaches and would rather sit and hope.
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We are truly stuffed if Jack goes. No ifs or buts. Our forward line would consist of Vickery (most likely gone), Griff, McBean, Moore, Elton and Chol if they push him forward again. We'll be an absolute basket case and will expose (if it's possible to be even more exposed) how truly awful our set up and F50 entries are
"This is a man who is not in the leadership group and has strangely been snubbed from it for the past couple of seasons for reasons I still don’t understand.
Stuff me these journos. One minute they're all over Jack citing poor body language, demonstrative, egotistical etc. and the next they claim they "don't understand" why he's not in the leadership group. They try and have it every which way
Let's be honest, it wouldn't matter who we had in our forward line, our slow poo footy kills any lope anyone would have of kicking a winning score. The problem isn't Jack....
Harfwit has put this club back 5 year IMO
We are a pussy club
Kind of my point (hence why I said it'll show how truly awful our set up and F50 entries are). You can see how bad the entries are now, can you imagine if we didn't have a player like Jack to kick it to who demands a few opponents at once? We'd be stuff
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All rubbish stories. All rubbish reporters. ;D
You hope and so do I but.....
As l said above please read it out aloud again. Remember it. :lol
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I thought this story was complete rubbish
Just found out there is some substance in this
Interesting times ahead
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I thought this story was complete rubbish
Just found out there is some substance in this
Interesting times ahead
Hmm :banghead
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Don't worry Dougey this kiss of death has been given. Reiwoldt will sign a contract until 2025 any time soon :shh
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I thought this story was complete rubbish
Just found out there is some substance in this
Interesting times ahead
Which bit Jack wants out (watson) or that he is trouble maker and the club will consider all offers (per barrett)
Sorry Jack (star) but from what ive heard i am comfortable in saying there is no story here
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Pickers on Riewoldt: I haven't had one discussion with Richmond about him moving anywhere.
Pickers on Riewoldt: Clubs have rung me about him.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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Pickers on Riewoldt: I haven't had one discussion with Richmond about him moving anywhere.
Pickers on Riewoldt: Clubs have rung me about him.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
I would say that's a blatant lie
Pickers has rang the clubs
Not other way around
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I just wish dimbo would play him to his strengths, it is an absolute waste of talent, hope he goes and wins a coleman and flag at a real football club OR dimbo changes his attitude and gameplan
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"There hasn’t been one discussion with Richmond about Jack going anywhere," Pickering said on NAB AFL Trade Radio.
"Clubs have rung me about him because there have been rumours, but that's it."
When asked, Pickering said Gold Coast, who will be in discussions with Richmond in regards to Dion Prestia, were not one of the clubs who had contacted him.
He also said the only discussions he had conducted with Riewoldt had occurred because both had read the rumours in newspapers.
Riewoldt signed a three-year contract extension in 2015, tying him to the club until the end of 2019.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-10-03/no-richmond-discussions-on-riewoldt
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jack is perfectly gruntled and may want to stay in