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Title: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: one-eyed on August 25, 2016, 04:09:28 AM
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Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk

Jason Dunstall
MMM
24 August, 2016


Richmond have said all year that they don’t need an aggressive re-set and think they are in pretty good shape.

They still believe that they can rebound pretty quickly in 2017. I’m not as bullish on them.

I’ve never overrated that list by any stretch of the imagination. I think it’s got some genuine holes in it, and they’re a long way from filling those holes as far as I’m concerned.

I’d be looking at that top end of talent and working out what I wanted to go forward with and then working out what I could get for those perhaps that might score me some draft picks.

I’m not suggesting you float the big names out there for market, but I’d have a conversation about any of them.

I’m not going to trade Alex Rance but if somebody came to you with a ridiculous offer you’d consider it.

If someone comes to you and says, ‘Well, we’re interested in Alex Rance’, you go, ‘Alright, how deep is your interest and what are you prepared to give?'

I’m saying I would accept that conversation about any player on the list if I was at Richmond because I want to see whether someone comes up with a deal that would make you go, ‘Hang on a minute, we have to consider this actually because that’s going to set us up for years to come with two or three quality young picks that are very high up’.

I think that everyone’s in the conversation. It doesn’t mean you’re going to trade any of them or you’re not throwing them on the table.

If you’re not thinking you’re going to win a premiership in the next couple of years and all of a sudden you get Carlton young gun Patrick Cripps for possibly 10 years plus a couple of high draft picks that you could have for 10 years, I’m thinking the 10 years take the preference over the two.

http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/opinion/2016/8/jason-dunstall-says-richmond-tigers-should-not-discount-conversations-with-other-clubs-about-a-possible-alex-rance-trade/
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 25, 2016, 07:21:13 AM
Shut up gorilla  :whistle
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Owl on August 25, 2016, 09:11:27 AM
Dunstal the tactical trade jeenyus
Wait, I have another thought fart, put JR, Cotchin, Dusty, Rance and Lids on the table and see what you get back, you might get some quality and springboard your club into a strong 2017 preserving the second tier to keep developing.
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Stalin on August 25, 2016, 09:21:48 AM
Dunstal the tactical trade jeenyus
Wait, I have another thought fart, put JR, Cotchin, Dusty, Rance and Lids on the table and see what you get back, you might get some quality and springboard your club into a strong 2017 preserving the second tier to keep developing.

Furthermore it would be a great chance for Hampson grigg Houli to show their  quality and leadership
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Owl on August 25, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
This must be cultivated
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Willy on August 25, 2016, 09:25:34 AM
Dunstal is right. EVERY player is tradable. Of course, it would have to be something ridiculously good for Rance, but if GWS were prepared to hand over Sheil and Cameron you would have to consider it. 

Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Owl on August 25, 2016, 09:32:25 AM
All good, but nobody gives you a toofer unless it is in their favor or they are severely drug affected.
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Damo on August 25, 2016, 11:14:48 AM
Dunstal is right. EVERY player is tradable. Of course, it would have to be something ridiculously good for Rance

Agree 100%
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Penelope on August 25, 2016, 12:27:42 PM
trade now, while currency is high
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: RedanTiger on August 25, 2016, 02:28:54 PM
So Dunstall wants all the players on the table.
Even the top five.
So, for instance if say a Hawthorn were interested in Rance AND Riewoldt then we should talk to them.
According to Dunstall, we should talk to Hawthorn regardless of whether it was a breach of faith with both contracted players.
Of course the players wouldn't be upset and want to go to a contender club of their choice. Like a Hawthorn.

And Hawthorn of course have only limited draft picks to offer.
So Rance and Jack insist on going and we have to settle for their first two picks.
And those picks would be around 20 and 40.
Right Jason, that sounds more than fair.
You get Rance and Riewoldt and give up picks 20 and 40.
And you're interested in Dusty and want to talk?
Why, of course Jason. Anything to help you with your key forward and back problem not to mention your ageing midfield. 

Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Andyy on August 25, 2016, 07:42:53 PM
Maybe if Fremantle offered this and next year's first round picks, as well as Fyfe and Neale.

Otherwise GTFO
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: tdy on August 25, 2016, 08:55:03 PM
Dunstal is right. EVERY player is tradable. Of course, it would have to be something ridiculously good for Rance, but if GWS were prepared to hand over Sheil and Cameron you would have to consider it. 



If GWS gave up Prestia  and Jaeger omeara I'd probably go for it cos we'd keep our pick 6. 3 good players in a draft is great work.
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Diocletian on August 25, 2016, 09:48:34 PM
So you'd trade a once in a generation defender for a sub 6 foot mid and a bloke with crook knees who hasn't played for two years and try to do the deal with a club they don't even play for?

Glad you're not in charge.....
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 25, 2016, 09:54:39 PM
So you'd trade a once in a generation defender for a sub 6 foot mid and a bloke with crook knees who hasn't played for two years and try to do the deal with a club they don't even play for?

Glad you're not in charge.....

 :clapping About fuckn time
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: dwaino on August 25, 2016, 10:33:33 PM
Article is a bit unfair and cherry picked. I was listening to him when he said this and it was a response to players being untradable. It was following a grab of Jack responding to Barrett so Richmond were already the subject. Barrett mentioned our top 5 and something about untradable, Billy pressed how this stuff works and Dunstall said while he wouldn't put certain players on the table to trade he said no player should be untradable. If a club offered a huge trade for one of your 'untouchables' you would weigh up if you think you could win a flag in the next few seasons or would the trade set you up for the next 10 years. Listening to it his answer sounded pretty fair. It had nothing to do with Hawthorn and in fact their example was if you were approached with an offer like a Cripps sort of player plus some early picks. In fact the article mentions these things but the headline is misleading.
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 26, 2016, 09:30:53 AM
Hawthorn must need backline depth. Covert Dunstall
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Shammo80 on August 26, 2016, 12:27:48 PM
yep dunstall sniffing for the hawks as there backline get that little bit older... Please if we traded or even thought of getting rid of rance the club would be ratshit he is our main player fancy a backline with out rance never
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: TigerMonk on August 26, 2016, 01:39:05 PM
Another very poor story from media trying to damage the RFC.
These articles are clearly written to cause the club grief & nothing more. Just to try keep the club down the bottom.
l reckon 2017 will be a good year
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Stalin on September 14, 2016, 12:05:42 PM
28 next year, We are not supporting an NGO! It is a horribly under-achieving football club! Any half decent recruitment plan would include offloading Rance for the highest picks we could get, possibly several 1st rounders

Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Yeahright on September 14, 2016, 01:29:11 PM
28 next year, We are not supporting an NGO! It is a horribly under-achieving football club! Any half decent recruitment plan would include offloading Rance for the highest picks we could get, possibly several 1st rounders

You've lost the plot. Rance is one of 3-4 untouchables!
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: (•))(©™ on September 14, 2016, 01:41:06 PM
Another very poor story from media trying to damage the RFC.
These articles are clearly written to cause the club grief & nothing more. Just to try keep the club down the bottom.
l reckon 2017 will be a good year

Mate,
Nobody could damage the club like the club itself.
Get over that one
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Beans on September 14, 2016, 01:42:28 PM
28 next year, We are not supporting an NGO! It is a horribly under-achieving football club! Any half decent recruitment plan would include offloading Rance for the highest picks we could get, possibly several 1st rounders
So tell me how trading out the best backman in the league, and at Richmond in the last 30 years will improve our club? With our drafting record of about a 20% strike rate we could get six picks and still only get one half decent player. I know. Why don't we trade everyone out and start again?  :help
Title: Re: Rance Shouldn't Be Discounted From Trade Talk: Dunstall (MMM)
Post by: Ruanaidh on September 14, 2016, 01:53:57 PM
28 next year, We are not supporting an NGO! It is a horribly under-achieving football club! Any half decent recruitment plan would include offloading Rance for the highest picks we could get, possibly several 1st rounders
my lawyers are looking into this blatant plagiarism!

Ironically, I think we should keep Rance and Jack (culture warriors) but everyone else can go at the right price.