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Title: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: bluey_21 on January 07, 2006, 11:15:32 AM
Although Tambling was a good pickup at 4 (I rated him as the 2nd pick in that draft), i'm starting to wonder if Miller and co. will be regretting passing on Franklin at pick 4. I know that Tambling (unlike Franklin) has had an injury-interrupted year so we haven't been able to see his full potential whereas we have been able to see Franklins potential. Although there are question marks over Franklins positions as he appears to be a flanker type. I see no reason why he can't be a CHF, because IMO he and Riewoldt are similar in their style of play, and Riewoldt is holding down CHF in one of the most talented lists in the AFL!

Sure we needed Tambling's pace and midfield talent, but Franklin could have (potentially) been our next 10+ years class CHF to succeed Richo.
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Razorblade on January 07, 2006, 11:39:53 AM
Franklin is too enigma for my liking, the raw talent is definetly there, but is the mental application and work-ethic?
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Fishfinger on January 07, 2006, 01:06:23 PM
Franklin is an exciting player. Definitely a flanker/wingman, from what I've seen of him anyway.
I don't recall him taking a pack mark at all. For some reason I think of him as a tall version of Greg Tivendale from a couple of years ago. A good player but I don't reckon he'll be a CHF as long as his bum points to the ground.
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Captain__Blood on January 07, 2006, 03:56:16 PM
IMO - yes, we should have taken Franklin at 4.

Whilst I don't think he will ever be a powerful, beast like CHF, at best he will develop into a Nick Riewoldt type new age key forward.
Likly he will end up being a Adam Goodes type flanker/wingman or even a Jeff White type ruck.

The Greg Tivendale comparison is laughable and bitter.

Franklin is a cracking prospect. Tambling would want to be a very good player to justify taking him @ 4 allowing Franklin to be picked up @ 5. Sadly I fear another Fiora/Palvich situation.

Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Fishfinger on January 07, 2006, 06:24:30 PM

The Greg Tivendale comparison is laughable and bitter.

I thought the "couple of years ago" bit would have made it self-explanatory that I meant when Tivendale was playing well. And, he was playing well.
Speaking of bitter, perhaps Tambling should don gold and brown vertical stripes for a while so you can talk him up. :)
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 07, 2006, 06:56:28 PM
No Franklin for me. Talent yes but he seems to go missing a lot. In the round 21 game of 2005 when the crucnh wa son Tiges coming back and Hawls needing to hold - he seemed IMO to go missing - didn't chase a few times when he needed to. What I mean there is he got a bit of the sulks when he didn't get a couple of frees and he stopped rather than going in for the second efforts.

Tambling - will be very very good  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Captain__Blood on January 07, 2006, 07:06:34 PM
No Franklin for me. Talent yes but he seems to go missing a lot. In the round 21 game of 2005 when the crucnh wa son Tiges coming back and Hawls needing to hold - he seemed IMO to go missing - didn't chase a few times when he needed to. What I mean there is he got a bit of the sulks when he didn't get a couple of frees and he stopped rather than going in for the second efforts.

Tambling - will be very very good  :thumbsup

I agree 'Buddy' seems to have workrate/attitude problems at current but you need to be abit aroggant to be the very best. Im sure we'd carry that kind of attitude (Limbach?) if it came with such raw talent.

I also remember being at the games against Hawthorn this season and his pace, goals got the crowd to its feet.

I hope bling is very very good.


The Greg Tivendale comparison is laughable and bitter.

I thought the "couple of years ago" bit would have made it self-explanatory that I meant when Tivendale was playing well. And, he was playing well.
Speaking of bitter, perhaps Tambling should don gold and brown vertical stripes for a while so you can talk him up. :)

Greg Tivendale comapred to Franklin; past, present or future is just silly. IMO Tivvers has played few good games and always has been a below average footballer.

I think Tambling will be good. I just fear Franklin will be better and more - sutied our needs better than a small winger/forward pocket.
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: bluey_21 on January 07, 2006, 07:07:01 PM
As long as we get Thorp next year, i won't mind that we passed on Franklin @ 4
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Captain__Blood on January 07, 2006, 07:10:46 PM
As long as we get Thorp next year, i won't mind that we passed on Franklin @ 4

Good year to tank next year me thinks.
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: bluey_21 on January 07, 2006, 07:15:40 PM
As long as we get Thorp next year, i won't mind that we passed on Franklin @ 4

Good year to tank next year me thinks.

Definitely, but i hope RFC doesn't go down that path because IMO it is no good for club culture
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Captain__Blood on January 07, 2006, 07:17:44 PM
As long as we get Thorp next year, i won't mind that we passed on Franklin @ 4

Good year to tank next year me thinks.

Definitely, but i hope RFC doesn't go down that path because IMO it is no good for club culture

I ment in terms of the 2006 draft is sposed to be outstanding.

Been a few whispers for 2/3 years now that its a ripper.
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: bluey_21 on January 07, 2006, 07:21:41 PM
Recruiters will be drooling with talents like Gibbs, Thorp, Hansen, Selwood and Sellar running around  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Captain__Blood on January 07, 2006, 07:27:01 PM
Recruiters will be drooling with talents like Gibbs, Thorp, Hansen, Selwood and Sellar running around  :thumbsup

Indeed.

Myself - I have only heard of these lads via people like yourself and not had the honour it seems of watching them myself. If we had pick 1 (at the present) and had to use it now, who would you most like us to pick up?

I notice you said Thorp but Gibbs is sposed to be a freak.
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: bluey_21 on January 07, 2006, 07:34:59 PM
Recruiters will be drooling with talents like Gibbs, Thorp, Hansen, Selwood and Sellar running around  :thumbsup

Indeed.

Myself - I have only heard of these lads via people like yourself and not had the honour it seems of watching them myself. If we had pick 1 (at the present) and had to use it now, who would you most like us to pick up?

I notice you said Thorp but Gibbs is sposed to be a freak.

CB i haven't seen Gibbs play much, but i've seen plenty of Thorp. IMO Gibbs would be the standout talent, apparently he is now not only a midfield prospect but a KPP prospect. But if i had pick 1 it would definitely be used on Thorp, can play all FB and FF, is going to be an absolute gun of the future IMO!
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: bluey_21 on January 07, 2006, 07:39:34 PM
CB, if you wanna know more about next years prospects maybe you should ask Ramps, i think he is better informed about them than me
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Captain__Blood on January 07, 2006, 07:58:22 PM
Cheers for that boss.
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Jackstar on January 07, 2006, 09:56:15 PM
Now that Franklin has OP and Tambling will be 100% fit this year, We made the right decision ;)
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Moi on January 07, 2006, 10:29:07 PM
I would have preferred Franklin - got some bad vibes about Tambo last year, and I was hoping we'd look for more key position players.  Franklin will be all right i reckon.
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: mightytiges on January 07, 2006, 10:37:39 PM
In the round 21 game of 2005 when the crucnh was on Tiges coming back and Hawls needing to hold

Speaking of that game, Tambo scorched off a wing with Lids on the other in the last quarter and was directly responsible for 3 of our goals in that comeback win. Hawk supporters I was sitting near were bagging Tambling up to 3/4 time but there was dead silence in the last with Tambo cutting loose and Franklin nowhere to be seen.

All up IMO the top 5 picks of 2004 look to have long AFL careers ahead of them barring injury. The real losers were the pussies giving up a first round pick (Patto) + Moloney for the injury-riddled Ottens.
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Captain__Blood on January 07, 2006, 10:49:32 PM
Now that Franklin has OP and Tambling will be 100% fit this year, We made the right decision ;)

Source?
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Jackstar on January 07, 2006, 11:13:31 PM
My sauce!
Both him and Roughead have early problems
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Captain__Blood on January 07, 2006, 11:29:01 PM
My sauce!
Both him and Roughead have early problems

Wow, now i beleive you  ::)
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Razorblade on January 08, 2006, 01:16:13 AM
No offense Jackstar but thats the first ive heard of it and without a news article suggesting the same i don't really believe it!
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Captain__Blood on January 08, 2006, 01:57:51 AM
I think yout friend Jackstar may be talking poo.

Infact I've heard Bling is the one that hasn't been training anywhere near 100%, due to injury and Buddy is flying.
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: blx on January 08, 2006, 09:00:49 AM
Now that Franklin has OP and Tambling will be 100% fit this year, We made the right decision ;)

sorry jackstar, you probobly meant it as a joke, or i dont know what, but thats a pretty outlandish observation  :P
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Jackstar on January 08, 2006, 09:10:01 AM
Facts are that both Roughhead and Franklin have early problems. mail is they are waiting to see how they return from break and step the pace up a bit and see where there  both at.
The dorks have done plenty of running before Xmas and trained on hard surfaces contributing to these two players having early problems.
Dont believe me, go and have a look at Glenferrie oval.  ::)
Its not in the press as they have been too busy reporting on cricket etc
We will have to wait and see , wont we !
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: PuntRdRoar on January 08, 2006, 10:12:08 AM
For those who are interested in next years crop- it seems like a good one but a bit early still. In stockbroking sense im bullish on Thorp just at the moment however Gibbs, Sellar, Gumbleton, Hansen and co. would also be good for us. With our draw we will get 1...the trick is for Jackstar and co to use all there influence in the halls of power lol...to try and get us a 2nd early pick by trading.

PS- Ive heard that Schulz and Krakouer are absolutely flying. Flying!
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Captain__Blood on January 08, 2006, 12:15:41 PM
Facts are that both Roughhead and Franklin have early problems. mail is they are waiting to see how they return from break and step the pace up a bit and see where there  both at.
The dorks have done plenty of running before Xmas and trained on hard surfaces contributing to these two players having early problems.
Dont believe me, go and have a look at Glenferrie oval.  ::)
Its not in the press as they have been too busy reporting on cricket etc
We will have to wait and see , wont we !

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Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Jackstar on January 08, 2006, 01:58:53 PM
Lets see what happens . ;)
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: Captain__Blood on January 08, 2006, 02:20:34 PM
Lets see what happens . ;)

Or you could post a source or egmit to telling un-truths

 :cheers
Title: Re: Should we have taken Franklin?
Post by: blx on January 08, 2006, 02:33:36 PM
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