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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerLand on October 02, 2016, 12:36:17 AM
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2016 GF Tackles = Swans 101 vs Dogs 92.
Richmond season average 60.13 - in a year where we didn't have as much time in possession as our opponents.
One of the many things that needs to be fixed if we are to go anywhere.
Since our last final win in 2001. Where have Richmond rated in terms of tackling as a team compared to rest of competetion?
2002 - 12th (16 team comp)
2003 - 15th (16 team comp)
2004 - 10th (16 team comp)
Wallace era..
2005 - 12th (16 team comp)
2006 - 12th (16 team comp)
2007 - 16th (16 team comp)
2008 - 16th (16 team comp)
2009 - 11th (16 team comp)
Hardwick era..
2010 - 12th (16 team comp)
2011 - 15th (17 team comp)
2012 - 10th (18 team comp)
2013 - 18th (18 team comp)
2014 - 14th (18 team comp)
2015 - 17th (18 team comp)
2016 - 18th (18 team comp)
The last dozen are Hardwick eras beginning in 2010. 14 years since our last finals win. For that entire time our tackling ranking has been in double digits.
If Hardwick is so enormous about contested ball why doesn't he care about tackling? Bruise free Hardwick but wants to win contested footy. If we want to copy Hawthorns game plan, they have been in the top 10 tackling teams over the past 8 years.
How is this acceptable?
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Answer = Lack of effort.
What is linked to effort? Teamwork and Leadership. Cut the rubbish about on field leadership, can't have any on field leadership when your coach is a donkey. Wallace was a donkey, so is Hardwick. We have no debt, pay the goose out and get the next Beveridge.
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Round 8, 2016. Kick after the siren win vs Sydney.
74 tackles to 55. In RFC favour. Don't tell me we can't tackle. Against the best in the business we smashed them.
No accountability from the top to ensure this is the standard or expectation. Jobs for mates and jokes about sex life. Look....
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:clapping Great posts TL. :thumbsup
This club is petrified of debt. Sack everyone and start again. Sack the dud and get someone who has a clue that can make a bunch of soft pansies a tough hardened team.
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If you ask one of the experts on here tackling has no bearing on a game and doesn't matter....
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But we have the ball all the time so how can we tackle........, great thinking and strategy Dimbar :lol
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Round 8, 2016. Kick after the siren win vs Sydney.
74 tackles to 55. In RFC favour. Don't tell me we can't tackle. Against the best in the business we smashed them.
No accountability from the top to ensure this is the standard or expectation. Jobs for mates and jokes about sex life. Look....
Cream
Fish
Yeah na
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Oh look....
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If you ask one of the experts on here tackling has no bearing on a game and doesn't matter....
why do you constantly make things up, or is it really just a matter of having extremely poor comprehension skills?
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If you ask one of the experts on here tackling has no bearing on a game and doesn't matter....
why do you constantly make things up, or is it really just a matter of having extremely poor comprehension skills?
I think it is a bit of both and probably a few other things as well
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We're just a soft lazy selfish side.
It hurts to say it, but it's true.
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Am I the only one who thinks our tackling is pee poor
Hasn't changed
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Lack of intelligence, we recruit small outside runners who can't or won't get their own ball and can't tackle or Shepard , shows a lack of a plan. Hopefully with Neil Balm at the helm Richmond will develop a plan that links everything that's relevant around football at the club.
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Watching year of the dogs and so obvious the coach makes such a difference to the heartbeat of the playing style and club in general. Dimma has some work to do.
Agree, we don't tackle enough and are not hard enough at the ball.
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Answer = Lack of effort.
What is linked to effort? Teamwork and Leadership. Cut the rubbish about on field leadership, can't have any on field leadership when your coach is a donkey. Wallace was a donkey, so is Hardwick. We have no debt, pay the goose out and get the next Beveridge.
Lack of effort in this instance, Stems from he boys being tired out from the last 7 years of an idiot coach, who's press conferences confuse the players as much as his basic equation game plan.
Sit off it, indeed ! :lol
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Culture
Simples
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Hardwick prefers a marking space coralling style defensive system so as a result we dont get close enough to tackle.
When we do our technique is abysmal, Doggies not only lay alot of tackles by closing space very quickly but a very large number are effective tackles which is something our players need to learn how to do.
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(https://s9.postimg.org/jwmj6siy7/image.jpg)
Going well
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If you ask one of the experts on here tackling has no bearing on a game and doesn't matter....
why do you constantly make things up, or is it really just a matter of having extremely poor comprehension skills?
How did you know it was you I was referring to.....says something really doesn't it.
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If you ask one of the experts on here tackling has no bearing on a game and doesn't matter....
why do you constantly make things up, or is it really just a matter of having extremely poor comprehension skills?
How did you know it was you I was referring to.....says something really doesn't it.
Who were you referring to then?
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88 tackles last night, lets hope they can keep that sort of level up, although Nank laying three is probably inflating our numbers
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Great effort. See what happens when you actually find some assistants who are actually good, taking total control out of a coach who isn't.
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Great effort. See what happens when you actually find some assistants who are actually good, taking total control out of a couch who isn't.
Yep. In Balme we trust.
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The forward pressure in the first half was the best I've seen at Richmond since Northy was coach . Brilliant. Keep it up and we'll win plenty of games this year.
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The forward pressure in the first half was the best I've seen at Richmond since Northy was coach . Brilliant. Keep it up and we'll win plenty of games this year.
Matty What did you think of fellow sandgroper Conca?
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The forward pressure in the first half was the best I've seen at Richmond since Northy was coach . Brilliant. Keep it up and we'll win plenty of games this year.
Matty What did you think of fellow sandgroper Conca?
I think he is due to ping a hammy after such a good game
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88 tackles last night, lets hope they can keep that sort of level up, although Nank laying three is probably inflating our numbers
Great bump Charlie :thumbsup
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I thought Conca played a good game . Hope he plays consistently at that level .
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Tackling great. Smalls fantastic > Butler, Castagna, Rioli etc.
Even Conca wasn't disgraced.
Thought Houli and Hunt were lucky to get games ahead of Miles and Markov.
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Still didn't think we got rewarded for good tackles by the umps last night, we seem for some reason really struggle to get holding or dropping the ball decisions yet every time Georgie went near the ball he was pinged. When we tackle opposition players you often hear the umpires say "he attempted to get rid of the ball" when they dropped it, when we get tackled they say "incorrect disposal". Which is correct, seems to be one interpretation one week and one the other. In fact watching the Pies v Dogs game tonight it was different again, very frustrating.
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Dimma's post match.
20th August 2016. Rich v StKilda Round 22.
A glaring weakness in the Tigers' performance was its tackling pressure, losing the count 42-63, despite St Kilda winning 58 more possessions.
Hardwick, however, said there was "some system to the madness".
"Sometimes we want high tackle numbers, sometimes we're prepared to sit off a bit and let them go certain ways," he said.
"It all interconnects with how you play. We're a low tackle side. Some sides are high tackle, depending on the style of game."
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-20/ty-understood-why-he-had-to-be-dropped-hardwick (http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-20/ty-understood-why-he-had-to-be-dropped-hardwick)
March 23rd 2017. Carl v Rich Round 1.
"Funnily enough our game style is built on defence. Good defence is good offence and I think that's what we saw. A pressure rating of 1.91 which our footy club hasn't seen for a long time. To get 11 goals from forward half turnovers you're going to be hard to beat. That will be our primary focus going forward and we will be in games.
With the addition of some quick players but also Nick Vlastuin had 10 tackles to half time, people might say his possession rate wasn't high but his influence on the game was massive for mine.
Reece Conca tackled incredibly well and I think Jack had a career high 7 tackles.
But if we continue to get those kind of numbers it's going to be style of game that our fans and our supporters, the players and the coaches will appreciate. It's a good style of game that we like."
http://m.afl.com.au/video/2017-03-23/full-postmatch-tigers (http://m.afl.com.au/video/2017-03-23/full-postmatch-tigers)
:rollin
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Which is why dimwit is not the man for the job. His a puppet at the moment taking instructions from others around him. It's not a bad thing (short term) but hopefully the club finally sees it and sends his arse packing
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Oh look...
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Did this thread just morph into the sack Dimma one
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Did this thread just morph into the sack Dimma one
Wear it like a badge :clapping
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Gotta say - despite the impressive numbers techniques are still poor from a lot of our players....still allow too many handballs by not pinning the arms and still get sidestepped too often because they don't watch the hips...
...and Shank is still the worst tackler in the AFL....McIntosh not far behind....
But I'll finish on a positive note - some of the new blokes & younger blokes look to be better tacklers, hope they can stay that way....
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Jim Goad.... What a great man :thumbsup
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Dimma's post match.
20th August 2016. Rich v StKilda Round 22.
A glaring weakness in the Tigers' performance was its tackling pressure, losing the count 42-63, despite St Kilda winning 58 more possessions.
Hardwick, however, said there was "some system to the madness".
"Sometimes we want high tackle numbers, sometimes we're prepared to sit off a bit and let them go certain ways," he said.
"It all interconnects with how you play. We're a low tackle side. Some sides are high tackle, depending on the style of game."
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-20/ty-understood-why-he-had-to-be-dropped-hardwick (http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-20/ty-understood-why-he-had-to-be-dropped-hardwick)
March 23rd 2017. Carl v Rich Round 1.
"Funnily enough our game style is built on defence. Good defence is good offence and I think that's what we saw. A pressure rating of 1.91 which our footy club hasn't seen for a long time. To get 11 goals from forward half turnovers you're going to be hard to beat. That will be our primary focus going forward and we will be in games.
With the addition of some quick players but also Nick Vlastuin had 10 tackles to half time, people might say his possession rate wasn't high but his influence on the game was massive for mine.
Reece Conca tackled incredibly well and I think Jack had a career high 7 tackles.
But if we continue to get those kind of numbers it's going to be style of game that our fans and our supporters, the players and the coaches will appreciate. It's a good style of game that we like."
http://m.afl.com.au/video/2017-03-23/full-postmatch-tigers (http://m.afl.com.au/video/2017-03-23/full-postmatch-tigers)
:rollin
:lol
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We're second highest for tackle numbers this year. A massive improvement on previous years :thumbsup.
Bulldogs 85.5
Richmond 72.5
Sydney 72.0
Adelaide 71.5
North 65.5
Port 63.5
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http://www.afl.com.au/stats
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After being last for tackle numbers in recent years, we're now equal 4th in 2017.
Average team tackles per match
Coll'wood 79.0
Bulldogs 78.0
Sydney 77.7
Richmond 74.0
Adelaide 74.0
Carlton 74.0
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=TA&year=2017&sby=6
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And it is MOST pleasing to watch!
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For a contact sport being low in the contact count seems ludicrous to me. One of the new coaches must have a brain.
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Merge with old tackling thread
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Our pressure and tackling was great tonight. We had more of the ball yet pleasingly still had 23 more tackles (73-50) than North :clapping.
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:clapping you can bang on about playing personnel and talent but it all starts with doing the basics well and you don't need to be talented to run hard and tackle. Great to watch
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:clapping you can bang on about playing personnel and talent but it all starts with doing the basics well and you don't need to be talented to run hard and tackle. Great to watch
100% correct.
It's only taken Dimma 8 years to work it out....idiot!!
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Building the pressure at Richmond
afl.com.au
6 June 2017
Soon after arriving at the Tigers, new assistant coach Blake Caracella told AFL.com.au tackling was on Richmond's agenda.
The Tigers had been ranked last in tackle differentials in 2016, recording 11 fewer on average than their opposition, and last for the number of tackles inside 50.
How that has turned around, with the Tigers ranked number one for tackles inside the forward 50, and Daniel Rioli, Jason Castagna, Dan Butler and Shai Bolton terrifying opposition defenders.
In 2017, the Tigers are making 3.5 more tackles a game than their opposition and spending 7.22 minutes a game more with the ball in their forward half than their opposition.
With a forward line that acts more like a magnet than a trampoline, the Tigers are kicking the ball forward 88.5 per cent of the time too, sitting fourth in the competition, whereas they were 15th on that statistic in 2016.
It sees them sitting fourth on the ladder, their highest spot after round 11 since 2000, and are the second-best performed team when it comes to points conceded.
We all jumped on Richmond coach Damien Hardwick when he said the Tigers needed to take one step back to take two steps forward, but he appears to be having the last laugh.
The Tigers' formline is as good as any, and there is no reason they can't secure an all-important top four spot.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-06/the-stats-files-why-moore-and-the-magpies-started-hitting-winners
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Oh look.......
We're a low tackling sort of side......
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It helps when Captain Courageous Cotch (CCC) has 12 tackles last weekend.
But you were all pulling yourselves over Prestia...
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It was actually a picture of Ariel Winter but whatever brah....
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ooh la la :bow
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Huge spike in @Richmond_FC 🐯defensive game this year.
Pressure rank 13th ('16) 4th ('17)
Tackling 18th ('16) 4th ('17)
@championdata
https://twitter.com/ClarkyHeraldSun/status/905691060201865217