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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: 🏅Dooks on November 01, 2016, 10:07:22 AM
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Vote up and discuss
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We haven't finished 9th for a while.
Think we will exceed expectations and finish 9th . Of course we will be knocked out of the eight in the final round of the season.
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What has really changed from the last three years. A 4th string ruck, A borderline A/B grader to replace a bona fide A grader and fmd Caddy the mesiah.
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Bottom 5. I think the club is in a world of pain on and off.
Treloar has proven that an a-grader makes not one bit of difference.
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Yeah look we are just adding some more cream to the cream from last year, I have the best list I have ever had and there is no reason we shouldn't be back in the top 4 and going on to lose more finals....
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Bottom 5. I think the club is in a world of pain on and off.
Treloar has proven that an a-grader makes not one bit of difference.
Treloar did make a difference for them. They would have been more putrid without him.
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5-6
Draw is kind
And I think players such as C Ellis , Menadue , McIntosh , Markov, Rioli will improve heaps
Prestia and Caddy huge upside
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We should bounce back strongly with some new players and new coaches and get to lofty heights of 11th.
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AFL 2017: The case for the top eight
Rohan Connolly
The Age
10 December 2016
This is a great time of year to be an AFL fan, perhaps a strange thing to say given last season finished more than two months ago and the next is still more than three months away.
But there's probably no time in the football calendar in which hope springs more eternal, every club with a fresh stack of talent, few if any injuries to speak of and a sense of optimism pervasive. And perhaps more so than ever heading into 2017.
Trying to put together a ladder prediction in the AFL era has never been easy, but it's going to be a nightmare next March, given the evenness at the top end and an even smaller gap between up to 10 teams beneath them.
There's just one side I'm prepared to say definitely won't play finals next year, and even Brisbane has considerable scope for improvement.
The two clubs that finished either side of the Lions at the bottom of the 2016 ladder, Fremantle and Essendon, might as well have done so with an asterisk, the Dockers surely better than their miserable 16th indicated, and having recruited well, the Bombers set to welcome back half a senior team.
I reckon predictions of Hawthorn's imminent demise are very premature as well, Sam Mitchell and Jordan Lewis are big losses but replacements Jaeger O'Meara and Tom Mitchell are very handy inclusions, and, fingers crossed, Jarryd Roughead is the biggest wildcard of the lot.
Only one of last season's top eight – North Melbourne – looked well off the pace by the end, but you'd be brave indeed to insist definitively they cannot make next year's final eight.
They're one of 10 candidates for whom quite rational finals cases can be mounted, the best and worst of them separated perhaps by only a couple of goals, and for whom the difference might only be a stroke of good or bad fortune.
It's a traffic jam of contenders. Let's examine their CVs.
RICHMOND:
This year was a stinker, but it was still preceded by three consecutive finals finishes. That capability doesn't just vanish. And while Brett Deledio is a big loss, there's an argument two solid midfield pick-ups in Dion Prestia and Josh Caddy more than cancel it out. They could also allow Dustin Martin a more damaging role up forward, where lack of firepower is an issue. Need a good start to avoid obvious heat on Damien Hardwick, but overall their draw is one of the more negotiable. Could surprise if things go right.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-2017-the-case-for-the-top-eight-20161208-gt79zh.html
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We try to predict whether you club will meet win-loss expectations next season
Jay Clark,
Herald Sun
December 7, 2016
HERALD Sun football writers Jay Clark and Gilbert Gardiner opens his crystal ball for 2017 and predicts whether your team will meet TAB’s expectations for next season.
Can Richmond, Collingwood or Port Adelaide climb into the top eight? Will North Melbourne, Hawthorn and Carlton maintain their win-loss ratio?
We look at how many wins your club might win in 2017.
RICHMOND
CLARKY’S TIP: Over 8.5 wins
Where are the Tigers at? The answer is clear as mud after a shocking 2016. They brought in a decent young ruckman and two hard-nut midfielders to give Cotch and Dusty a hand in the engine room next season and have two elite bookends. For Damien Hardwick’s sake, they have to be better.
GIL’S TIP: Over 8.5 wins
Cotch and Dusty needed help in the midfield and they’ve got it in spades with Prestia and Caddy on board. No more excuses, should play finals in 2017.
$1.80 Over 8.5 wins
$2.00 Under 8.5 wins
LAST SEASON: 8 wins
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/footy-form/we-try-to-predict-whether-you-club-will-meet-winloss-expectations-next-season/news-story/b75874cf4b120317f9274d8a299b123c
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Either the game plan changes and we move the ball much faster or bottom 4 and Hardwick is pushed out the door.
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11-13 ...
New coach end of season.
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I don't give a stuff about the club under the current regime.
I'm not the only one.
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Either the game plan changes and we move the ball much faster or bottom 4 and Hardwick is pushed out the door.
x2.
Really can't see us finishing outside of the bottom 4 unless some miracle happens with a whole new functional gameplan that is pro-scoring rather than negating, plus breakout years from lesser likes of our mid-tier that have so far failed to produce.
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Either the game plan changes and we move the ball much faster or bottom 4 and Hardwick is pushed out the door.
x2.
Really can't see us finishing outside of the bottom 4 unless some miracle happens with a whole new functional gameplan that is pro-scoring rather than negating, plus breakout years from lesser likes of our mid-tier that have so far failed to produce.
Agree 100%.
I predict a long woeful year.
Until we change our recruiters and then coach we will be shisen.
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I hope we surprise and win the flag. :clapping
I think we'll struggle and come bottom 6. :banghead
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RICHMOND
CLARKY’S TIP: Over 8.5 wins
Where are the Tigers at? The answer is clear as mud after a shocking 2016.
For Damien Hardwick’s sake, they have to be better.
How to cover all bases 101.
We'll make the 8 and even push top 4 :shh
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4th
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You were saying we would have a poor 2017 a few months back
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You were saying we would have a poor 2017 a few months back
He probably found out what I know :shh
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You were saying we would have a poor 2017 a few months back
He probably found out what I know :shh
Enlighten me via postal please :shh
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You were saying we would have a poor 2017 a few months back
He probably found out what I know :shh
Enlighten me via postal please :shh
You should get a letter soon :shh
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PM please!
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All 17 other clubs are to be docked 24 points...but we'll still finish 9th...
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You were saying we would have a poor 2017 a few months back
He probably found out what I know :shh
Pm pleez
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Yarran's changed his mind again.... :shh
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You were saying we would have a poor 2017 a few months back
He probably found out what I know :shh
Pm pleez
X2 plz
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All I'll say is fans are never and will never be happy with what path Richmond choose to take :shh
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All I'll say is fans are never and will never be happy with what path Richmond choose to take :shh
true ;)
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Chuck - as ridiculous as his Maric comment was at the time ....you got to hand it to the old boy this time . Jackstar looking like an Oracle now .
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Chuck - as ridiculous as his Maric comment was at the time ....you got to hand it to the old boy this time . Jackstar looking like an Oracle now .
You obviously missed Jackstars uninterupted run of innacurate mail and horrifically wrong calls which the site was reknowned for 3-5 years ago.
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I remember Jack the troll but then he miraculously became a born again believer and championed the Hardwick cause .
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Chuck - as ridiculous as his Maric comment was at the time ....you got to hand it to the old boy this time . Jackstar looking like an Oracle now .
Jackstar runs in cycles, always pumped at the start of the season and then when the tough times start he turns on each and everyone in the club
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Chuck - as ridiculous as his Maric comment was at the time ....you got to hand it to the old boy this time . Jackstar looking like an Oracle now .
Jackstar runs in cycles, always pumped at the start of the season and then when the tough times start he turns on each and everyone in the club
Then fires up again at Trade time.....
Caddy has been an exceptional pick up for North!
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Chuck - as ridiculous as his Maric comment was at the time ....you got to hand it to the old boy this time . Jackstar looking like an Oracle now .
Jackstar runs in cycles, always pumped at the start of the season and then when the tough times start he turns on each and everyone in the club
Then fires up again at Trade time.....
Caddy has been an exceptional pick up for North!
LOL
The cycle of giving
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...or the bigger hack a player is, the more he'll talk them up.....
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Chuck - as ridiculous as his Maric comment was at the time ....you got to hand it to the old boy this time . Jackstar looking like an Oracle now .
Jackstar runs in cycles, always pumped at the start of the season and then when the tough times start he turns on each and everyone in the club
Then fires up again at Trade time.....
Caddy has been an exceptional pick up for North!
LOL
The cycle of giving
One of lifes bountiful harvests
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Miss Jackstar, this place is really boring now we only talk about the on-field stuff and are a half decent side.
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Theres a Miss Jackstar? Well ill be darned.
Good on the hungry young fella....
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I reckon Miss Jackstar would have to be deaf, he whinges like an old woman