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Title: Pick 27
Post by: one-eyed on November 03, 2016, 04:48:43 PM
Based on history, we shouldn't get our hopes up too much with pick 27  :-\.

Barely a handful have made a long career out of AFL footy. We can say we've had two of those that made it with Benny Gale [1987 draft] and Kane Johnson [traded to us]. 


Overall history of the AFL’s No. 27 National Draft pick

1986 – Adam Garton, Brisbane Bears.
1987 – Brendon Gale, Richmond.
1988 – Rod Keogh, Melbourne.
1989 – Joel Saunders, Fitzroy.
1990 – Brad Davis, Fitzroy.
1991 – Terry M. Board – Brisbane Bears.
1992 – Kieran Murrihy – Essendon.
1993 – Brad Hall, Melbourne.
1994 – Toby Kennett, Adelaide.
1995 – Kane Johnson, Adelaide.
1996 – Troy Cook, Sydney.
1997 – Brad Stephens, North Melbourne.
1998 – Steven Baker, St Kilda.
1999 – Cain Ackland, Port Adelaide.
2000 – Ted Richards, Essendon.
2001 – Tom Davidson, Collingwood.
2002 – Darren D. Walsh – Essendon.
2003 – Adam Campbell – Fremantle.
2004 – Pat Garner, Brisbane Lions.
2005 – Dylan Addison, Western Bulldogs.
2006 – Brad Howard, St Kilda.
2007 – Andy Otten, Adelaide.
2008 – Sam Wright, North Melbourne.
2009 – Callum Bartlett, Brisbane Lions.
2010 – Kieran Harper, North Melbourne.
2011 – Sam Kerridge, Adelaide.
2012 – James Stewart, Greater Western Sydney.
2013 – Sean Lemmens, Gold Coast.
2014 – Lukas Webb, Western Bulldogs.
2015 – Darcy Tucker, Fremantle.

Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-11-02/when-richmond-nailed-pick-27
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Go Richo 12 on November 03, 2016, 04:54:44 PM
In comparing all of their abilities, Ted Richards is clearly the pick of that lot as he has played in a premiership.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Chuck17 on November 03, 2016, 04:57:39 PM
In comparing all of their abilities, Ted Richards is clearly the pick of that lot as he has played in a premiership.

Was it just one or multiple premierships?
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 03, 2016, 05:11:19 PM
In comparing all of their abilities, Ted Richards is clearly the pick of that lot as he has played in a premiership.
Round 2 : Yeahright versus big tone
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Harry on November 03, 2016, 05:25:33 PM
I'm excited
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: mat073 on November 03, 2016, 05:29:13 PM
I have a first cousin on that list   :shh
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Harry on November 03, 2016, 05:32:00 PM
How many sleeps till draft night.  Won't be able to sleep.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Go Richo 12 on November 03, 2016, 08:47:39 PM
In comparing all of their abilities, Ted Richards is clearly the pick of that lot as he has played in a premiership.

Was it just one or multiple premierships?
Multiple, that makes him two times better than the rest?
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Yeahright on November 04, 2016, 12:45:39 AM
In comparing all of their abilities, Ted Richards is clearly the pick of that lot as he has played in a premiership.
Round 2 : Yeahright versus big tone

Yeah just wait for Big Note to come in and say I compared Richards and the rest of the lot cause I'm an idiot :lol
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Shammo80 on November 04, 2016, 02:29:32 PM
were doomed another JON,relton Roberts, master piece on its way  :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Diocletian on November 04, 2016, 04:41:45 PM
Here's another four prospects tipped to go around pick 27:

Josh Begley:

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2016-01-18/draft-prospect-joshua-begley

Jordan Ridley:

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2016-01-21/draft-prospect-jordan-ridley

Joshua Rotham:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Ke_C3Xqzs

Brennan Cox (both videos):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53cgWuDv-gI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ85ihuZjKw

Begley & Cox out of those four for me....Rotham & Ridley are defenders but they both just look like  potential Batchelors to me....so no doubt FJ will be trying to talk Williams & Clarke into giving one of them the first rose... :shh
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on November 04, 2016, 07:28:47 PM
So we're getting a jet  :shh
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Diocletian on November 04, 2016, 07:55:07 PM
Yes - another Western Jet hot on the heels of C.Ellis, Menadue & Post...:shh
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: MintOnLamb on November 04, 2016, 08:43:34 PM
Begley looks good, solid boy as well
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: wayne on November 07, 2016, 10:04:20 AM
Don't we need someone with a surname beginning with Mc. We've lost a few lately.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 07, 2016, 10:10:23 AM
Would love Begley if he lasts till our pick.

No more skinny flankers......
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Yeahright on November 07, 2016, 01:41:28 PM
Would love McBegley if he lasts till our pick.

No more skinny flankers......

EFA to suit Waynes request
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: wayne on November 07, 2016, 02:37:45 PM
Would love McBegley if he lasts till our pick.

No more skinny flankers......

EFA to suit Waynes request

 :lol
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: The Machine on November 07, 2016, 08:25:55 PM
I am keen on Kobe Mutch. Inside outside smooth moving mid who kick both feet and weaves through traffic as good as anyone. He is a GWS academy zone player but if he is still around at our first pick, he is my choice. Good size at 186 and will fill out nicely. His game against Vic Country was first class....BOG.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: The Machine on November 07, 2016, 08:33:03 PM
Witherden and Drew would be my other selections in that order if Mutch is gone. We should pick up a very good player with our first.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: MintOnLamb on November 08, 2016, 05:20:24 PM
I am keen on Kobe Mutch. Inside outside smooth moving mid who kick both feet and weaves through traffic as good as anyone. He is a GWS academy zone player but if he is still around at our first pick, he is my choice. Good size at 186 and will fill out nicely. His game against Vic Country was first class....BOG.
Does he weigh over 82kgs?
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: The Machine on November 08, 2016, 08:46:07 PM
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2016/06/29/451597.jpg)

Yes around 84kgs.
Title: Champion Data ranks top 30 draftees based on their statistical performances (HS)
Post by: one-eyed on November 14, 2016, 01:33:19 AM
Champion Data ranks Sam Powell-Pepper at our pick 27.


AFL draft 2016: Champion Data ranks the top 30 players based on their statistical performances

SAM LANDSBERGER
Herald Sun
November 14, 2016



THE AFL’s official number cruncher, Champion Data, has selected this year’s top 30 draft nominations based on their statistical performances.

The stats guru ranked Caleb Daniel at No. 16 in 2014, 30 spots before the premiership midfielder was taken.

Last year it rated NAB Rising Star winner Callum Mills at No.2.

If Champion Data was picking from the schoolyard, this is how next Friday’s draft would look.

Herald Sun draft expert SAM LANDSBERGER runs his eyes over Champion Data’s rankings and assesses when the players might be selected.

*** POWER RANKINGS***

1. Andrew McGrath
(179cm, 75kg halfback) Sandringham Dragons

Averaged most disposals in TAC Cup as a midfielder and most disposals at championships of any defender.

SAM LANDSBERGER SAYS: Giants would love McGrath at No. 2 to play as a defensive forward and then help replace Heath Shaw. Dons undecided at pick one.


2. Hugh McCluggage (185cm, 75kg midfielder) North Ballarat Rebels

Unprecedented goalkicking ability for a midfielder. Averaged 24 disposals and two goals in 17 games — a feat never achieved in the AFL.

SAM SAYS: Most clubs have McCluggage on top, but if the Bombers go McGrath he could fall to GWS or Brisbane. Glides through traffic.

3. Tim Taranto (186cm, 82kg midfielder) Sandringham Dragons

Averaged most SuperCoach points in TAC Cup and third most in the championships. Averaged more contested marks than any other TAC Cup midfielder.

SAM SAYS: Think Nat Fyfe. Taranto’s aerial prowess is massive and he spoils, shepherds and tackles. Could be Carlton’s at pick five.

4. Ben Ainsworth
(179cm, 74kg forward) Gippsland Power

Demonstrated midfield capabilities late, averaging 29 disposals and three goals in final four games.

SAM SAYS: Has long been near the top of this class and likely to be a Brisbane Lion at pick three. In the Jamie Elliott mould.

5. Jack Bowes
(187cm, 78kg midfielder) Cairns/Gold Coast academy

Most skilful midfielder in the draft. Wins his own ball, uses it efficiently, hits the scoreboard and has played against men in the NEAFL.

SAM SAYS: Gold Coast will secure this Simon Black-type midfielder as its first academy star. Will the Lions bid pick three and force a fair price?

6. Will Setterfield (190cm, 80kg midfielder) Sandringham Dragons/GWS academy

Low disposal tally but a big body, strong at the contest, chips in defensively and can play forward.

SAM SAYS: Essendon could drop a draft bomb and bid for the GWS academy star at No. 1 Ripper kid who had 16 tackles in a TAC Cup final.

7. Jack Scrimshaw (193cm, 80kg defender) Sandringham Dragons

Only played seven TAC Cup games, but averaged second most disposals and most intercepts of any halfback.

SAM SAYS: Great kicking action, nice size and an impressive season after the previous two were plagued by injury. Suns lurking.

8. Harry Perryman
(184cm, 75kg defender) Collingullie/GWS academy

Rated top 10 per cent for disposals, contested possessions, intercepts and metres gained at the championships. Small sample this season.

SAM SAYS: Yet another discounted gem for GWS. Not quick, but beautiful skills on both sides and has been playing against men for three years.

9. Sam Petrevski-Seton
(181cm, 75kg midfielder) Claremont

Undersold for his hard edge. Won more than 50 per cent of possessions contested in WAFL Colts and ranked in the top 10 for tackles.

SAM SAYS: Had some thinking Cyril Rioli this year. Uses it well on both sides and should find a home in the top 10, possibly at the Suns or Blues.

10. Daniel Venables (186cm, 81kg forward) Western Jets

Only averaged 13 disposals at the championships, but won the second most AFL player ratings points of any forward.

SAM SAYS: Quality over quantity for Venables, who won a Vic Metro game off his own boot. Powerful All-Australian who should go first round.

11. Brad Scheer (184cm, 83kg midfielder) Palm Beach-Currumbin/Gold Coast academy

Averaged fourth most player ratings points of any midfielder at the championships, from just 16 disposals per game.

SAM SAYS: Numbers resemble Marcus Bontempelli — can have a huge impact off limited disposals. Suns should secure Scheer, even if it means going into points deficit.

12. Dylan Clarke (187cm, 85kg midfielder) Eastern Ranges

Averaged 13 contested possessions and 5.5 clearances per game this year, both ranked No. 1 for any midfielder.

SAM SAYS: Kicking concerns mean he’s likely to fall in the second round. Brother Ryan Clarke impressed at North Melbourne this year.

13. Oliver Florent (183cm, 74kg half-forward) Sandringham Dragons

Could be the best outside midfielder. Averaged 21 disposals and kicked four goals in the final three TAC Cup finals

SAM SAYS: Resilient character with X-Factor and a penetrating kick. Some think he’ll stay in Victoria and could go as early as North’s pick 11.

14. Josh Battle (192cm, 90kg key forward) Dandenong Stingrays

Battle’s 3.0 goals per TAC Cup game the most of any player and his 11 goals at championships were almost the most.

SAM SAYS: Surprise to see Battle this high. Elite runner who will play as a third forward at AFL level. Could be in Richmond’s sights at pick 27.

15. Will Brodie
(189cm, 82kg midfielder) Murray Bushrangers

In 35 Champion Data games, Brodie has won 30 disposals just once. Elite stoppage player, ranking in top 10 for clearances in the TAC Cup.

SAM SAYS: Long rated a top-five pick, but could slide a few picks. A blue-chip choice. Ready to rock as an inside midfielder.


16. Kobe Mutch (184cm, 79kg midfielder) Bendigo Pioneers/GWS academy

Finds the ball at every level. Kicking efficiency of 65 per cent impressive given his high contested possession rate.

SAM SAYS: Giants so rich in talent they’re likely to let this academy prospect blossom elsewhere. Accumulator with a streak of leadership.

17. Tim English (203cm, 86kg ruckman) South Fremantle

English averaged 18 disposals per 100 minutes game time at the championships — No. 1 for any ruckman.

SAM SAYS: Needs time but can impact midfield in the Dean Cox vein. Logical pick for Fremantle at No. 7, if Gold Coast doesn’t pounce first.

18. Jordan Galluci (183cm, 75kg midfielder) Eastern Ranges

Averaged 20 disposals and kicked 1.8 goals in TAC Cup while his 422m gained at the championships ranked No. 3 of any midfielder.

SAM SAYS: Great athlete who can put the jets on, ala Norm Smith winner Jason Johannisen. Crows and Power circling.

19. Zac Fisher (175cm, 61kg midfielder) Perth

No. 1 West Australian at the championships and their only player to average at least 20 disposals. Rated above average for goals and score involvements.

SAM SAYS: Small but crafty, Fisher was playing senior bush footy at 15 and impressed in the WAFL this year. Does size matter after Caleb Daniel?

20. Alex Witherden (184cm, 78kg defender) Geelong Falcons

In 12 Geelong Falcons games he averaged 18 disposals and seven contested possessions.

SAM SAYS: Classy right-footer boasts a deep kick and looks a slight chance to join Port Adelaide at No. 14.

21. Jy Simpkin (181cm, 71kg forward) Murray Bushrangers

Won 17 disposals, four clearances and kicked 1.4 goals in his TAC Cup game and showed class at the 2015 championships.

SAM SAYS: Rated a top-10 shot before breaking his leg early in the season. Creative forward who will be strongly considered by Sydney and North Melbourne in the first 11 picks.

22. Jack Graham
(183cm, 83kg midfielder) North Adelaide

Won the equal most disposals of any player at the championships. Strong inside and explosive outside, gaining second most metres of any midfielder.

SAM SAYS: Joined Tom Hawkins, Marc Murphy and Stephen Coniglio as a Larke Medallist, but a quad injury ended his year early. Second-rounder.

23. Will Hayward (186cm, 76kg forward) North Adelaide

Proven goalkicker, bagging eight from four games at the championships and 33 from nine SANFL under-18 games.

SAM SAYS: The bolter. Hayward booted 13 goals in his final two games to rocket into the top-10 conversation. Suns and Dogs, keen while Port and Crows have picks around the mark.

24. Shai Bolton
(177cm, 67kg forward) South Fremantle

Best ball carrier at championships, gaining 431m per game. Can also win his own ball, recording a contested possession rate above 50 per cent in WAFL Colts.

SAM SAYS: Freakish talent with a clever sidestep and pace to burn. Would appeal to the Dogs, Pies and Swans.

25. Luke Bunker (185cm, 78kg midfielder) Northern Knights

Mr Consistent. Won 23 or more disposals in every TAC Cup match and had more score involvements than any other Vic Metro midfielder.

SAM SAYS: Huge surprise Bunker is here. No invite to the national combine suggests his best shot is the rookie draft.

26. Jarrod Berry (191cm, 80kg defender) North Ballarat Rebels

Only averaged 17 disposals for North Ballarat but did have standout games, including kicking 3.3 against Bendigo.

SAM SAYS: Won’t go top 10 as once thought, but can play anywhere on the ground and looks a future leader. Would fit the flexible Bulldog mould.


27. Sam Powell-Pepper (186cm, 83kg midfielder) East Perth

In 51 Champion Data games he never won 30 disposals. But averaged more than 300m gained from just 13 touches for Western Australia.

SAM SAYS: Bull at stoppages and can kicks goals. Supreme runner who looks a second-round selection.



28. Jonty Scharenberg
(186cm, 80kg midfielder) Glenelg

Safe prospect with his output predictable. Was a top-five clearance player at the championships.

SAM SAYS: Brother of Collingwood’s Matthew loves the heavy work but lacks a bit of zip. Unlikely to be taken in the top 40.


29. Todd Marshall
(198cm, 87kg key forward) Murray Bushrangers

Poor production since start of championships. Last 12 games averaged just eight disposals and 1.7 goals.

SAM SAYS: Glowing potential will see him drafted higher. Dogs would love him at No. 18 to learn from premiership stars Travis Cloke and Tom Boyd. Shouldn’t get past St Kilda’s pick 23.


30. Jacob Allison (194cm, 79kg midfielder) Aspley/Brisbane Lions academy

Struggled to find his best position. Liked his 2015 and showed glimpses this year he has star potential.

SAM SAYS: Lions likely to go into points deficit to grab Allison, should a bid come beyond pick 22. Can give it a roost off halfback.


AFL DRAFT ORDER

1. Essendon

2. GWS Giants

3. Brisbane Lions

4. Gold Coast

5. Carlton

6. Gold Coast

7. Fremantle

8. Gold Coast

9. Sydney

10. Gold Coast

11. North Melbourne

12. West Coast

13. Adelaide

14. Port Adelaide

15. GWS Giants*

16. Brisbane Lions

17. Port Adelaide

18. Western Bulldogs

19. Sydney

20. Essendon

21. Brisbane Lions

22. Brisbane Lions

23. St Kilda

24. Geelong

25. Carlton

26. Western Bulldogs

27. Richmond

28. Collingwood

29. Essendon

30. Port Adelaide

*Picks 15 and 37 could be stripped from GWS due to Lachie Whitfield saga

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2016-champion-data-ranks-the-top-30-players-based-on-their-statistical-performances/news-story/febca6c18551c62dbbd7950dfc02ece6
Title: Re: Champion Data ranks top 30 draftees based on their statistical performances (HS)
Post by: one-eyed on November 14, 2016, 01:36:44 AM
Dream draft according to Cal Twomey:

If the Tigers want to grab an inside midfielder with their second-round choice then they have a few solid options who are around that mark of the draft. Joe Atley, Hamish Brayshaw, Jack Graham and Jonty Scharenberg all may fit in the second round and beyond.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-12/the-depth-chart-your-clubs-strengths-and-weaknesses-as-the-draft-nears
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: MintOnLamb on November 14, 2016, 07:39:48 AM
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2016/06/29/451597.jpg)

Yes around 84kgs.
Nice. Plus not a Mc

Looking at draft analyser we will probably go for Zac Fisher if he is still available, trouble is he may weigh too much?
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Raoul Duke on November 14, 2016, 12:15:44 PM
Looking at draft analyser we will probably go for Zac Fisher if he is still available, trouble is he may weigh too much?
Fisher is a dead set light weight but is a very good young footballer none the less.
I rate him elite but most will be put off by his lack of size.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Diocletian on November 14, 2016, 04:09:42 PM
Hackson's last draft in charge, so no doubt it will be someone that no-one's mentioned and we'll all be disappointed with..... :gotigers

Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: MintOnLamb on November 14, 2016, 05:34:09 PM
Looking at draft analyser we will probably go for Zac Fisher if he is still available, trouble is he may weigh too much?
Fisher is a dead set light weight but is a very good young footballer none the less.
I rate him elite but most will be put off by his lack of size.

fair enough but gee he is pretty small, Will be interested to see who gets him and how he goes...watch this space :shh
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Andyy on November 14, 2016, 07:55:50 PM
Sam P-P sounds like a good size/inside mid etc
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Diocletian on November 14, 2016, 08:08:26 PM
Need to clear two big hurdles to get SPP - other clubs & then Hackson's incompetence....
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Owl on November 15, 2016, 10:14:24 AM
PP would be a awesome from what I have seen on the vids, bit of a beast.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 15, 2016, 10:59:43 AM
Anyone for Shai Bolton?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-15/he-does-things-ive-never-seen-why-shai-bolton-stands-out
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Willy on November 15, 2016, 12:04:27 PM
Yep, hoping for SPP now.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Raoul Duke on November 15, 2016, 12:15:06 PM
Anyone for Shai Bolton?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-15/he-does-things-ive-never-seen-why-shai-bolton-stands-out
Smooth mover, yes from me.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Diocletian on November 15, 2016, 02:01:07 PM
AFL website's mock draft has us taking Kobe Mutch:

https://afldraftcentral.com.au/player/kobe-mutch/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyGfKMH_PcQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf3QVh1j9sU

General opinion is Top 10 skills but very slow - even slower than Lennon....GWS academy kid but fair chance they wont match any bid, especially if they lose early picks as punishment for the Whitfield affair....

Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Yeahright on November 16, 2016, 11:36:07 AM
Anyone for Shai Bolton?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-15/he-does-things-ive-never-seen-why-shai-bolton-stands-out

He looks funny to me so pass
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: pmac21 on November 16, 2016, 12:03:21 PM
My preference for pick 27 would be Willem Drew or Jarrod Berry (if he slides).  Both tall mids. 
Best result would be Jy Simpkin but not much chance of that. 
Not sure on Kirby at 56??  Prefer a key defender if there are any. 
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: MintOnLamb on November 16, 2016, 08:59:31 PM
Anyone for Shai Bolton?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-15/he-does-things-ive-never-seen-why-shai-bolton-stands-out

He looks funny to me so pass
Benny Hill type, pass also
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: one-eyed on November 17, 2016, 04:14:56 PM
Nick Creely @NCreely twitter
Sports Journalist, Recent Deakin Graduate, Richmond Tragic and Netflix addict. nicholas.creely@starnewsgroup.com.au



"Going to be posting my Mock Draft at 5.30pm. Top 40 only..Few surprises in there. Tigers fan should be thrilled with their first pick"

https://twitter.com/NCreely

Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Diocletian on November 17, 2016, 04:20:38 PM
Richmond supporter does mock draft which places highly rated player at Richmond's first pick...stop the press...
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 17, 2016, 05:22:04 PM
LMAO
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: The Machine on November 17, 2016, 06:09:47 PM
AFL website's mock draft has us taking Kobe Mutch:

https://afldraftcentral.com.au/player/kobe-mutch/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyGfKMH_PcQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf3QVh1j9sU

General opinion is Top 10 skills but very slow - even slower than Lennon....GWS academy kid but fair chance they wont match any bid, especially if they lose early picks as punishment for the Whitfield affair....


Would be a steal to get Mutch with forst our pick. He is not blessed with pure leg speed but i think he covers the ground better than Lennon.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: The Machine on November 17, 2016, 09:13:37 PM
Like the look of Cooper Jones as a modern key running defender.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: the claw on November 18, 2016, 12:24:50 AM
One i would like is Griffen Logue from wa. but i dont think he will get to us. One who gets little mention is the lad from sa Jack Graham.
Sam Powell - Pepper or Tim English are another two w/a lads i would not turn my nose up at.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Yeahright on November 18, 2016, 10:54:36 AM
Would have thought very unlikely to get English or Logue (as you mentioned). Few decent inside mids should be available come our pick - just the position we loaded up on in trade period :lol
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: one-eyed on November 18, 2016, 02:44:09 PM
From Callum Twomey's Top 30 phantom form guide:

Full guide: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-18/callum-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-november-edition

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(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Phantom-Form-Guide21.jpg)

POS: Half-forward, Ht 178cm, Wt 68kg, DOB 8/12/98
From South Fremantle/Western Australia

Bolton is the type of player who could make us look pretty silly for having him so deep on this list. His talent is top-end: he can jump high and run quick (he did the 20-metre sprint in 2.95 seconds), take big marks, kick clever goals and produce freakish moments. His run and carry is what makes him different to other prospects, and the indigenous teenager is able to break the lines like few others.

Where does he go? His talent is so immense that it wouldn't surprise if a club went for him a little earlier than expected. He most likely sits somewhere in the second round, with the Western Bulldogs, St Kilda, Carlton and Richmond among the possibilities. 

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(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Phantom-Form-Guide23.jpg)

POS: Midfielder/half-forward, Ht 186cm, Wt 83kg, DOB 8/1/98
From East Perth/Western Australia

Powell-Pepper brings some genuine power to the draft. He's the midfield bull who will charge at a stoppage not fearing what's in the way. He can sometimes blaze away by foot, but he is a long kick and good overhead. He is also a great endurance athlete, so combines his explosive streak with an ability to go all day. Last year he played as a half-back, and this year showed his development by pushing up the ground to the midfield and at times across half-forward. 

Where does he go? Collingwood, Richmond and St Kilda have all been linked to Powell-Pepper in the second round. West Coast could swoop if he gets through to No.34, which is unlikely.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-18/callum-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-november-edition
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: one-eyed on November 18, 2016, 02:47:54 PM
Q. Who's in the mix with Richmonds first pick?

Callum Twomey:
Could Elliott Himmelberg be in the mix? A tall forward who could come in and play a role to help fill the Vickery void. Cedric Cox may be a chance too if he's still on the board.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-18/live-chat-with-draft-guru-callum-twomey
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: MintOnLamb on November 18, 2016, 02:51:01 PM
Power Pepper for mine.
Bolton has too much of the Tambling look
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: one-eyed on November 18, 2016, 02:53:38 PM
Nick Creely @NCreely twitter
Sports Journalist, Recent Deakin Graduate, Richmond Tragic and Netflix addict. nicholas.creely@starnewsgroup.com.au



"Going to be posting my Mock Draft at 5.30pm. Top 40 only..Few surprises in there. Tigers fan should be thrilled with their first pick"

https://twitter.com/NCreely
Here's Creely's top 40 mock draft: https://nickcreely.wordpress.com/2016/11/17/nick-creely-mock-afl-draft-2016/

He has us picking Kobe Mutch with our first pick.

30. Kobe Mutch (GWS Academy, 184cm Midfielder) – Richmond

It is inevitable that GWS have to let some of their academy players slip through, and that works in the favour of the Tigers. Mutch is a prolific and consistent ball winner who tackles, something the Tigers seriously lack. Could make an impact in 2017, and looks like a real steal.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: one-eyed on November 20, 2016, 04:42:30 AM
RICHMOND lost Ty Vickery and delisted Liam McBean, so a forward might be on the menu.

Battle and Pat Kerr could and should be there at No.27. But with a list that drops away dramatically after the first few players, the Tigers simply need the best available.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/phantom-draft-top20-plus-whos-in-the-mix-for-late-selections-at-collingwood-hawthorn-and-more/news-story/7bacd97aec3364ab17233da8cb28db0a
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: the claw on November 26, 2016, 04:25:57 PM
One i would like is Griffen Logue from wa. but i dont think he will get to us. One who gets little mention is the lad from sa Jack Graham.
Sam Powell - Pepper or Tim English are another two w/a lads i would not turn my nose up at.
Well we got one i liked

Im still dirty with the direction the club took going all the way back to the trade period. Instead of  trading in players and losing nd picks  i still think we needed to keep pick  6 plus  try and trade into the top 5 somehow.
Any two of MCluggage Brodie, Logue, petrevski - seton  would have been a treat and we could have traded for Prestia with a future nd pick.

Not happy with the bolton pick not having a go at his talent but more about the type he is.


Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: taztiger4 on November 27, 2016, 08:14:44 AM
One i would like is Griffen Logue from wa. but i dont think he will get to us. One who gets little mention is the lad from sa Jack Graham.
Sam Powell - Pepper or Tim English are another two w/a lads i would not turn my nose up at.
Well we got one i liked

Im still dirty with the direction the club took going all the way back to the trade period. Instead of  trading in players and losing nd picks  i still think we needed to keep pick  6 plus  try and trade into the top 5 somehow.
Any two of MCluggage Brodie, Logue, petrevski - seton  would have been a treat and we could have traded for Prestia with a future nd pick.

Not happy with the bolton pick not having a go at his talent but more about the type he is.

Was reported at the time we tried to get Dion with a future pick, GC said no
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 27, 2016, 09:02:44 AM
One i would like is Griffen Logue from wa. but i dont think he will get to us. One who gets little mention is the lad from sa Jack Graham.
Sam Powell - Pepper or Tim English are another two w/a lads i would not turn my nose up at.
Well we got one i liked

Im still dirty with the direction the club took going all the way back to the trade period. Instead of  trading in players and losing nd picks  i still think we needed to keep pick  6 plus  try and trade into the top 5 somehow.
Any two of MCluggage Brodie, Logue, petrevski - seton  would have been a treat and we could have traded for Prestia with a future nd pick.

Not happy with the bolton pick not having a go at his talent but more about the type he is.

Was reported at the time we tried to get Dion with a future pick, GC said no
Can also tell you some factual evidence via a recruiter. He said they were all waiting on the Gibbs deal to go through which would mean pick 13 would eventually make its way to us for Deledio. We then would have given that to GC for Prestia. When it became obvious that wasn't going to happen, we relinquished pick 6. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 27, 2016, 10:52:50 AM
One i would like is Griffen Logue from wa. but i dont think he will get to us. One who gets little mention is the lad from sa Jack Graham.
Sam Powell - Pepper or Tim English are another two w/a lads i would not turn my nose up at.
Well we got one i liked

Im still dirty with the direction the club took going all the way back to the trade period. Instead of  trading in players and losing nd picks  i still think we needed to keep pick  6 plus  try and trade into the top 5 somehow.
Any two of MCluggage Brodie, Logue, petrevski - seton  would have been a treat and we could have traded for Prestia with a future nd pick.

Not happy with the bolton pick not having a go at his talent but more about the type he is.

Overall, I'd say our off season recruiting has gone in the right direction - particularly if we keep our 2 x 1st rounders and 2nd round pick next year.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Diocletian on November 27, 2016, 02:47:54 PM
One i would like is Griffen Logue from wa. but i dont think he will get to us. One who gets little mention is the lad from sa Jack Graham.
Sam Powell - Pepper or Tim English are another two w/a lads i would not turn my nose up at.
Well we got one i liked

Im still dirty with the direction the club took going all the way back to the trade period. Instead of  trading in players and losing nd picks  i still think we needed to keep pick  6 plus  try and trade into the top 5 somehow.
Any two of MCluggage Brodie, Logue, petrevski - seton  would have been a treat and we could have traded for Prestia with a future nd pick.

Not happy with the bolton pick not having a go at his talent but more about the type he is.

Overall, I'd say our off season recruiting has gone in the right direction - particularly if we keep our 2 x 1st rounders and 2nd round pick next year.

We traded next year's second round pick to Gold Coast as part of the Prestia trade.
Title: Re: Pick 27
Post by: Yeahright on November 27, 2016, 04:10:34 PM
Overall, I'd say our off season recruiting has gone in the right direction - particularly if we keep our 2 x 1st rounders and 2nd round pick next year.

We traded next year's second round pick to Gold Coast as part of the Prestia trade.

Damn, that didn't last long. Sack M.Clarke thread is probably being made as we speak