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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Loui Tufga on November 22, 2016, 05:03:32 PM
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Statement from the club....
http://m.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-11-22/club-statement-chris-yarran
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Sad.
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Whats the difference between released from contract and sacked? lmaooo
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Do we still have to pay him this year and next?
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Do we still have to pay him this year and next?
Bet his contract says we do. Just like Hardwicks
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What was the final straw anybody know?
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Two players with mental health issues, two players ultimately gone with 0 games played. Maybe McKenzie was on to something...
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Sad stuff. Another player down the drain at rfc
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Does this mean we go in with one less list spot in 2017
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Does this mean we go in with one less list spot in 2017
No I believe we can draft another player.
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What was the final straw anybody know?
Coming back ten kegs over I am guessing.
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Guess they had to pull the trigger before the draft.
Is it too late to pick up Richards as a dfa now?
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Yep, real shame this, waste of a footballer and another story of what could have been....
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It's a Pity but it would be like throwing good after bad
Mental Assessment mustn't be on the recruiting list
I hope he doesn't turn up at another club next year
Anyway move on,
Good luck with your healing Chris
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Couch must be pretty filthy as well.
What a waste of time
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Wouldn't pay him a cent. Take it to court it's a joke.
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We wont be paying him... fact.
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This has been an absolute fiasco from day dot.
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Could and should we ask the AFL for a compensation draft pick or did we know about this and did it anyway
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No comment
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Called it before we recruited him. I wanted Dunkley with that pick.
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Called it before we recruited him. I wanted Dunkley with that pick.
What?
You would have given up two seconds rounders for Dunkley?
I say rubbish!
Because in the end pick 31 would never have got Dunkley.....
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Anyone gonna be made accountable for this shocking trade?
Of course not. We'll learn from this. Our football dept are still on L plates if we wait a bit longer they'll get their P's.
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What a stuffn shock.
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Look it's complicated
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Anyone gonna be made accountable for this shocking trade?
Of course not. We'll learn from this. Our football dept are still on L plates if we wait a bit longer they'll get their P's.
Club was warned
Leave it at that
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I just think it's a sad day for the player involved as his mental demons have not allowed him to continue on at the highest level.
It's a sad day for the club who once again have made the wrong decision when it comes to recruiting. :banghead When will they learn?
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Carlton should be on the hook here, completely deceived another club - as stupid as we were, it's inexcusable behaviour.
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I am in a sort of complicated shock
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Could and should we ask the AFL for a compensation draft pick or did we know about this and did it anyway
Agree with this him and his manager and AFL should be accountable even through its our fault Dan Richardson should be sacked.
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Could and should we ask the AFL for a compensation draft pick or did we know about this and did it anyway
Agree with this him and his manager and AFL should be accountable even through its our fault Dan Richardson should be sacked.
Yeah good luck winning that fight....
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Tigers part with Yarran
Daniel Cherny
The Age
23 November 2016
Only a day after he was put through his paces at an open training session, Richmond have released Chris Yarran from his contract despite him having two years to run on his deal with the club.
The Tigers' decision - which is effective immediately - comes in order to allow the former Carlton speedster to deal with his ongoing mental health issues at home in Western Australia. Richmond's playing group was informed earlier on Tuesday of the decision, which gives the Tigers an extra list spot ahead of the draft on Friday night in Sydney.
Richmond general manager of football Neil Balme said the decision had been made for the sake of Yarran's welfare. "Chris has found it difficult to meet the demands of AFL football given his personal issues," Balme said.
"Ultimately it was agreed with Chris, and his management, that stepping away from the game is in the best interest of his long-term health and wellbeing."
Yarran - who turns 26 next month - thanked the club, with whom he didn't play a game after being traded from Carlton at the end of last season. "I am extremely grateful for the support Richmond has given me over the past year. I am deeply disappointed my ongoing health issues have not allowed me to repay the club and its supporters," Yarran said.
It's understood Yarran will not be seeking to resurrect his AFL career at a West Australian club in 2017, although there remains hope he could play competitive football in the future.
The decision ends a disastrous 13-month stint at the club for the mercurial utility. Having fallen out of favour at the Blues towards the end of last season, Yarran became a Tiger in exchange for pick 19 on the final day of the 2015 trade period.
Having been dogged by form and off-field issues towards the end of his seven years at the Blues, Yarran was plagued by mental health issues during his time the Tigers. He returned to WA in the middle of the year to deal with a personal situation. He was also plagued by foot, calf, and general fitness issues.
Visibly out-of-shape by AFL standards, Yarran enlisted former Melbourne player Tom Couch as a personal fitness coach in recent months in a bid to mount a return to competitive football, having not played even at VFL level since joining the Tigers. He trained with Richmond's rehab group on the first day of pre-season training a fortnight ago, and as recently as Monday continued to run laps with a fitness coach, while joining the main group for a handful of drills. Despite a clearly sizeable gulf in fitness levels between Yarran and the bulk of the Richmond list, he look in reasonable spirits as he posed for photos after the session, giving no apparent warning of what was to come the next day.
A genuine match-winner at his best, Yarran played 119 games with the Blues after being taken at pick six in the 2008 draft from Swan Districts. Having started his career as a small forward, Yarran spent much of his time as a rebounding half-back. Arguably his best season at Carlton was in 2014 - a year in which he averaged 16 disposals and a goal per game, and finished fourth in the best and fairest. He also kicked the goal of the year in 2012, coincidentally against the Tigers.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/chris-yarran-parts-ways-with-richmond-with-two-years-to-run-on-his-contract-20161122-gsv2s1.html
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Yarran walks away from Tigers
Michael Warner
Herald Sun
23 November 2016
TROUBLED Richmond recruit Chris Yarran has quit the club without playing a game in yellow and black.
The Tigers released Yarran, 25, from his three-year contract, effective immediately, to deal with a mental health battle.
His departure was based on medical advice and a view that the cut and thrust of the AFL was not the best environment for his recovery.
Yarran returned home to Western Australia last night to be with friends and family.
The 2008 No.6 draft pick became a Tiger in exchange for pick 19 just minutes before the close of the 2015 trade period.
He played 119 games for Carlton but injured his calf weeks after arriving at Punt Rd.
“Chris has found it difficult to meet the demands of AFL football given his personal issues,” Tigers football manager Neil Balme said.
“It was agreed with Chris, and his management, that stepping away from the game is in the best interest of his long-term health and wellbeing.”
Yarran trained with the main group on Monday, but talks about his likely exit from the game have been taking place for several weeks.
He was paid in full for last season but has walked away from the remaining two years of his contract.
Yarran’s manager, Paul Connors, said the dashing defender had tried hard over summer to repay Richmond’s faith.
“He thought he could make it and he really tried his guts out, but in the end there was a thousand issues and we all decided that it was best for him to go back to Perth,” Connors told SEN radio. “It was a pretty gut-wrenching day today.”
Yarran said in a statement he greatly appreciated Richmond’s support over the past year.
“I am deeply disappointed my ongoing health issues have not allowed me to repay the club and its supporters,” he said.
Chris Yarran in full flight for Carlton in 2014. Picture: Colleen Petch
Last month the speedster told the Herald Sun he had rediscovered the passion to play.
“There were times during the year when I doubted myself, doubted whether I would ever play again, but I’m in a steady place now and I’m ready to start playing some good footy,” Yarran said.
“My personal issues are taken care of and this is the best I’ve felt and looked for quite some time.
“I really missed playing and I’m doing everything in my power to make sure I play again.
“All I want to do is get back and play some decent footy for the Richmond Football Club, which I’m capable of doing.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-releases-chris-yarran-from-his-contract-to-deal-with-health-issues/news-story/54c0c0a805d7ca330f8770df47cb8d90
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Very sad news. I wish him the best for the future and hope he can address his mental health issues.
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I am in a sort of complicated shock
The same sort of shock you get from a rusty trumbone
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I am in a sort of complicated shock
The same sort of shock you get from a rusty trumbone
How do you know that?
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Called it before we recruited him. I wanted Dunkley with that pick.
What?
You would have given up two seconds rounders for Dunkley?
I say rubbish!
Because in the end pick 31 would never have got Dunkley.....
Clarify that statement. Are you saying I didn't state that at the time? I always wanted Dunkley with our 2nd rounder. The fact that we improved our draft position to 19 by including a future 2nd round pick in prior negotiations never altered my position.
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I am in a sort of complicated shock
The same sort of shock you get from a rusty trumbone
How do you know that?
He often slips up.
No pun intended.
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Wow, Balm was just saying on SEN that he'll remain on the list for the rest of this season so he actually hasent been delisted as such!
I'm not sure why or how but this now makes the whole thing look like a bigger joke :banghead
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How can these incompetent pricks be allowed to continue to run the club?
Lol at richmind members.
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How can these incompetent pricks be allowed to continue to run the club?
Lol at richmind members.
Everyone in football circles knew Yarran's 'circumstances' were problematical - and I am being advisedly calm here. The RFC was repeatedly warned by informed individuals but didn't want to appear to be a serial rejector of indigenous players after the Harley Bennell saga. The RFC is what happens when PC rules and self-serving SJW's manage.
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Right.
In O'Neil,Gale has found a niche, that of PC pusher.
Primarily female and make no mistake, that IS the corporate mantra, she plays the role of PC Godmother, making the RFC otherwise as though it were America.
Her America.
A blatant example of where the line between failure and stability is blurred.
STB.
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The 2008 No.6 draft pick became a Tiger in exchange for pick 19 just minutes before the close of the 2015 trade period.
and the rest!
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Wow, Balm was just saying on SEN that he'll remain on the list for the rest of this season so he actually hasent been delisted as such!
I'm not sure why or how but this now makes the whole thing look like a bigger joke :banghead
What the actual stuff?
So i assume we have to pay him this year too then?
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Quite surprised they didnt keep up the smoke screen until after the board elections.
Chris can now concentrate on dealing and fixing his issues and thats great.
Now my beef is with this basket case of a club...who is responsible for putting us into this situation? By responsible I mean, who put forward the idea and who signed off on it, because taking into account
1. 2 year extrension before this year to our coach
2. 2 year extrension then given to Hampson, prior to review which quite clearly pointed to the football dept not being up to par with its desicions
3. The review ending up with most of the football staff hired being marched out
and now this, I cant understand how there are people at the club still employed in their positions. i.e. Dan Richardson and Blair Hartley to name 2.
I have heard the SEN grab with Balme with Ralph and its pretty concerning that his usual calm self was put to the side today...tipping he didnt know what he signed on for as well...we are in deep poo with this board pulling swifty after swifty
Its crystal cleat that the current CEO and the board he steers, has no idea on how to build a footy team...they might be good at bringing out nice pics of graphs and promoting our standing in the community but when it comes to football they miss the mark by a very very long way
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Well said Flash.
Where is the accountability for decisions? Given issues with Yarran would have been known prior to the trade, who signed off on taking the risk?
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Wow, Balm was just saying on SEN that he'll remain on the list for the rest of this season so he actually hasent been delisted as such!
I'm not sure why or how but this now makes the whole thing look like a bigger joke :banghead
Ok...now I'm slightly annoyed....
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Quite surprised they didnt keep up the smoke screen until after the board elections.
Chris can now concentrate on dealing and fixing his issues and thats great.
Now my beef is with this basket case of a club...who is responsible for putting us into this situation? By responsible I mean, who put forward the idea and who signed off on it, because taking into account
1. 2 year extrension before this year to our coach
2. 2 year extrension then given to Hampson, prior to review which quite clearly pointed to the football dept not being up to par with its desicions
3. The review ending up with most of the football staff hired being marched out
and now this, I cant understand how there are people at the club still employed in their positions. i.e. Dan Richardson and Blair Hartley to name 2.
I have heard the SEN grab with Balme with Ralph and its pretty concerning that his usual calm self was put to the side today...tipping he didnt know what he signed on for as well...we are in deep poo with this board pulling swifty after swifty
Its crystal cleat that the current CEO and the board he steers, has no idea on how to build a footy team...they might be good at bringing out nice pics of graphs and promoting our standing in the community but when it comes to football they miss the mark by a very very long way
I don't think anyone can argue with that.
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Called it before we recruited him. I wanted Dunkley with that pick.
What?
You would have given up two seconds rounders for Dunkley?
I say rubbish!
Because in the end pick 31 would never have got Dunkley.....
Clarify that statement. Are you saying I didn't state that at the time? I always wanted Dunkley with our 2nd rounder. The fact that we improved our draft position to 19 by including a future 2nd round pick in prior negotiations never altered my position.
I'm saying that they only traded for pick 19 to get Yarran. If they wanted Dunkley, they would either have picked him at 12 or hoped he slid to 31. There is no way known they would have done the trade to get 19 for Dunkley. That is reality. What you are saying was never a real option. So what is the purpose of staying something that would never ever have occurred?
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Called it before we recruited him. I wanted Dunkley with that pick.
What?
You would have given up two seconds rounders for Dunkley?
I say rubbish!
Because in the end pick 31 would never have got Dunkley.....
Clarify that statement. Are you saying I didn't state that at the time? I always wanted Dunkley with our 2nd rounder. The fact that we improved our draft position to 19 by including a future 2nd round pick in prior negotiations never altered my position.
I'm saying that they only traded for pick 19 to get Yarran. If they wanted Dunkley, they would either have picked him at 12 or hoped he slid to 31. There is no way known they would have done the trade to get 19 for Dunkley. That is reality. What you are saying was never a real option. So what is the purpose of staying something that would never ever have occurred?
Late in negotiations (after the horse trading to get 19) they still had time to come to their senses (act on adverse Yarran info) and keep 19 which would have enabled the selection of Dunkley. You're acting as if this scenario was an impossibility when indeed it was the correct course of action in order to extricate themselves from the parlous situation they found themselves in.
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Wow, Balm was just saying on SEN that he'll remain on the list for the rest of this season so he actually hasent been delisted as such!
I'm not sure why or how but this now makes the whole thing look like a bigger joke :banghead
Ok...now I'm slightly annoyed....
Watch it roll into the 3rd year :snidegrin
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Yep board needs a shake up. Now's our chance
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Called it before we recruited him. I wanted Dunkley with that pick.
What?
You would have given up two seconds rounders for Dunkley?
I say rubbish!
Because in the end pick 31 would never have got Dunkley.....
Clarify that statement. Are you saying I didn't state that at the time? I always wanted Dunkley with our 2nd rounder. The fact that we improved our draft position to 19 by including a future 2nd round pick in prior negotiations never altered my position.
I'm saying that they only traded for pick 19 to get Yarran. If they wanted Dunkley, they would either have picked him at 12 or hoped he slid to 31. There is no way known they would have done the trade to get 19 for Dunkley. That is reality. What you are saying was never a real option. So what is the purpose of staying something that would never ever have occurred?
Late in negotiations (after the horse trading to get 19) they still had time to come to their senses (act on adverse Yarran info) and keep 19 which would have enabled the selection of Dunkley. You're acting as if this scenario was an impossibility when indeed it was the correct course of action in order to extricate themselves from the parlous situation they found themselves in.
Imagine if we had of caved and gave up pick 12.........
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Called it before we recruited him. I wanted Dunkley with that pick.
What?
You would have given up two seconds rounders for Dunkley?
I say rubbish!
Because in the end pick 31 would never have got Dunkley.....
Clarify that statement. Are you saying I didn't state that at the time? I always wanted Dunkley with our 2nd rounder. The fact that we improved our draft position to 19 by including a future 2nd round pick in prior negotiations never altered my position.
I'm saying that they only traded for pick 19 to get Yarran. If they wanted Dunkley, they would either have picked him at 12 or hoped he slid to 31. There is no way known they would have done the trade to get 19 for Dunkley. That is reality. What you are saying was never a real option. So what is the purpose of staying something that would never ever have occurred?
Late in negotiations (after the horse trading to get 19) they still had time to come to their senses (act on adverse Yarran info) and keep 19 which would have enabled the selection of Dunkley. You're acting as if this scenario was an impossibility when indeed it was the correct course of action in order to extricate themselves from the parlous situation they found themselves in.
Imagine if we had of caved and gave up pick 12.........
Thank heavens for small mercies......;so they say.
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Well Carltank, pulled our pants down, dipped its biggest jagged chunk of metal in salt, sand and vinegar and rammed it in our clubs cloaca. I hope our response will send shivers down spines for decades to come. Mother idiots.
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Now paying two blokes not to play for us....Deledio & Yarran.... :gotigers
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Quite surprised they didnt keep up the smoke screen until after the board elections.
Chris can now concentrate on dealing and fixing his issues and thats great.
Now my beef is with this basket case of a club...who is responsible for putting us into this situation? By responsible I mean, who put forward the idea and who signed off on it, because taking into account
1. 2 year extrension before this year to our coach
2. 2 year extrension then given to Hampson, prior to review which quite clearly pointed to the football dept not being up to par with its desicions
3. The review ending up with most of the football staff hired being marched out
and now this, I cant understand how there are people at the club still employed in their positions. i.e. Dan Richardson and Blair Hartley to name 2.
I have heard the SEN grab with Balme with Ralph and its pretty concerning that his usual calm self was put to the side today...tipping he didnt know what he signed on for as well...we are in deep poo with this board pulling swifty after swifty
Its crystal cleat that the current CEO and the board he steers, has no idea on how to build a footy team...they might be good at bringing out nice pics of graphs and promoting our standing in the community but when it comes to football they miss the mark by a very very long way
It's all spin spin pin at the club
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I am in a sort of complicated shock
The same sort of shock you get from a rusty trumbone
How do you know that?
How do you NOT know that? You're slipping if you don't get one at least once :shh
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Now paying two blokes not to play for us....Deledio & Yarran.... :gotigers
Taking stability to a whole new level
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Now paying two blokes not to play for us....Deledio & Yarran.... :gotigers
Taking stability to a whole new level
Remember change leads to chaos. Peg told us so
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-to-save-close-to-700000-in-salary-cap-as-consolation-for-losing-chris-yarran/news-story/1fc64e40f16b86a65aeb8b1efd27a6bf
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Good....now re-sign Martin ASAP....
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I'm sure some people still have hope
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Well that could be worse.
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Good....now re-sign Martin ASAP....
Surely one of the most important things on the agenda!!
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Have you ever been more embarrassed to be a Tigers supporter than this year??
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Is it likely we had a get out clause that prevents them from paying out the full salary, in situations like this.
I presume yarran would have to agree to walk away from the remaining 2 years, and if so good on him.
At the end of the day it is not his fault, not one single bit. Lazy he may be, but like hampson they they dont reward themsevles with contracts and game time. The club is the only one at fault here and instead of heads rolling, peggy sue will probably get down on bended knee and preach the good word
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Have you ever been more embarrassed to be a Tigers supporter than this year??
Hmmm possibly, but the year you said Hardwick inherited Bowden and Richo was fairly emabarrassing
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Yarran will get small payout this year but is basically forgoing the bulk of his contract
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Richmond to save close to $700,000 in salary cap as consolation for losing Chris Yarran
3 hours ago by JAKE NIALL
Source: FOX SPORTS
WHILE Chris Yarran cost Richmond draft picks and did not play a single game, his exit has this consolation: the Tigers have saved close to $700,000 in their salary cap over 2017 and 2018.
Yarran was due to be paid in the vicinity of $400,000 for each of the next two years, having joined Richmond on a three-year deal last year. But in reaching an agreement to leave this week, Yarran also agreed to give up the vast majority of the estimated $800,000 he was contracted to be paid over the next two years.
The Tigers, who defended the ill-fated Yarran trade, reached a settlement that ensured he would receive a small portion of his contract in what they saw as an outcome that that would help him in his off-field issues, while also protecting the club’s interests.
Richmond will retain Yarran on their senior list in 2017, however, because there is no scope to remove listed players following the last round of delistings.
Yarran, who is heading home to Western Australia, would be given permission by the Tigers and the AFL to play football in the WAFL, if he wishes to play there. He played with Swan Districts in the WAFL prior to drafted by Carlton as a highly talented teenager in 2008.
The Tigers gave up 2015’s Pick 31 and their 2016 second round pick — which ultimately was used as Carlton’s pick 23 last year — in return for Yarran, who was contracted to the Blues.
Richmond’s football operations boss Neil Balme defended the decision to acquire Yarran.
“It’s very easy to say ‘this is the outcome, therefore it was a bad decision,’’’ Balme told SEN radio.
“If we had hindsight we wouldn’t do a lot of things and it would stop us from taking a risk on almost all of the good things that have happened in the world.’
”Sometimes they (recruits) don’t work out, but we shouldn’t just go back and say that was a bad decision, therefore you should never have done it
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-to-save-close-to-700000-in-salary-cap-as-consolation-for-losing-chris-yarran/news-story/1fc64e40f16b86a65aeb8b1efd27a6bf
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Richmond will retain Yarran on their senior list in 2017, however, because there is no scope to remove listed players following the last round of delistings.
What a disaster. Terrible administration by the club. Heads should roll.
Richmond’s football operations boss Neil Balme defended the decision to acquire Yarran. “It’s very easy to say ‘this is the outcome, therefore it was a bad decision,’’’ Balme told SEN radio.
Oh Neil. It's going to be tough job this one. You might have to use this same angle when they sack Hardwick mid season and people question you about his contract extension.
Of course it was a shocking decision, that has impacted us over 2 drafts and will hurt us for years to come.
Having said that, and as bad as it is, it is probably not in our top 5 draft disasters.
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Tigers reject calls Yarran recruitment a mistake
MICHAEL WARNER and KATE SALEMME,
Herald Sun
24 November 2016
RICHMOND football boss Neil Balme has rejected suggestions it was a mistake for the Tigers to recruit Chris Yarran.
Yarran failed to play a game in yellow and black after being traded to the club from Carlton during the 2015 trade period as he endured an injury-riddled season before stepping away from the game to deal with mental health issues
The Tigers gave up pick No.19 to secure the dashing defender after securing that end of first round selection in a swap for pick No.31 in last year’s draft and pick No.26 in this year’s draft.
The 25-year-old officially quit the club on Tuesday, walking away from his three-year contract, effective immediately, to deal with a mental health battle.
Balme wasn’t at Richmond at the time of the trade but defended the club’s decision amid suggestions it was warned about a risk with Yarran.
“If we had hindsight we wouldn’t do a lot of things,” Balme said. “It‘s pretty easy to sit back and say ‘oh that was a mistake’.
“I’m not convinced of that (the warnings) either. Who was giving the warnings?
“It’s pretty easy to sit back and say ‘no they should never have done it’.
“Do you think then, that Sydney shouldn’t have taken a risk on Lance Franklin? He’s had some issues with mental health etc, which we all know.
“We’ve got to make sure we don’t individualise this but was it a good idea to do that or not? Clearly it was but if he were ill you’d say no, it was a bad decision.
“You can’t just say it was a bad decision because it didn’t work out.
“There are a lot of experts around, let’s not talk about that (other trade targets at the time). Let’s just say is it worth helping these young men and take a risk to help them play the game they want to play, surely it is.
“Sometimes they don’t work out. We shouldn’t just go back over it and go ‘that was a bad decision so therefore you shouldn’t have ever done it.’ That’s not the way it should be.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-releases-chris-yarran-from-his-contract-to-deal-with-health-issues/news-story/54c0c0a805d7ca330f8770df47cb8d90
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Chris Yarran was a recruiting risk Richmond had to take says David King as speedster quits to deal with mental health
Ben Waterworth and Max Laughton
Foxsports
24 November 2016
DESPITE ‘losing’ on the deal in a pure football sense, recruiting Chris Yarran was a risk that Richmond had to take according to an AFL champion.
The former Blue, who cost the Tigers two second-round picks in a series of trades during the 2015 trade period, exited the club in a mutual agreement on Tuesday to return home to Western Australia and deal with mental health issues.
The release prompted some media commentators to criticise the Tigers trade’, with some calling his recruitment a mistake.
But North Melbourne champion David King argued Yarran’s on-field ability was so necessary for the club that it had to take the chance.
“Of the lot of them, this was probably a purpose-picked player. They lacked a damaging half-back flanker, they didn’t have that aggressive game-changer, so this guy was perfect for their failings. It was a punt that they had to take,” King told foxfooty.com.au.
“His off-field issues aside and from a sheer football point of view, it was probably a risk Richmond had to take.”
The Tigers fell from a finals contender and fringe top-four side down to 13th in 2016, which is partly why King says the move can be justified.
“If you sit on your hands and don’t take any risks at all, you’re almost certainly stagnating, if not going backwards,” King said.
“When you look at most clubs, even the premiers, over the last few years, they’ve taken some sort of risk, whether it be with a high pick for an elite level talent at a big price or a speculative opportunity, such as a Mitch Clark-style trade or the investment in a Patrick Dangerfield or Harley Bennell or Colin Sylvia in the past.
“Hindsight will tell you Yarran is a bust, but there isn’t a coach in the land who doesn’t think they can impact a disgruntled or underperforming talent at another club. They think they can get them into their premises, get them back on track and get some benefit out of it, which we all understand.
“Yep it hasn’t worked at Richmond, put a line through it, but history is littered with players that have failed with second opportunities. In the modern era, under guys like Alastair Clarkson and John Longmire, they’ve all shown that’s the model, that’s what you have to do.”
That’s an attitude backed by new Tigers general manager of football Neil Balme, who defended the club against those criticising Yarran’s recruitment based on the result rather than the process itself.
“It’s very easy to just sit back and say they shouldn’t have done it,” Balme said on SEN.
“Do you think then that Sydney shouldn’t have taken a risk on Lance Franklin? He’s had some issues with mental health … was it a good idea to do that or not? Clearly it was. But if he was ill you’d say no, that was a bad decision.
“You can’t just say that it’s a bad decision because it didn’t work out.
“Is it worth helping these young men and taking a risk to help them play the game they want to play? Surely it is.
“Sometimes they don’t work out, we shouldn’t just go back over it and say that was a bad decision so therefore you shouldn’t have ever done it.”
With Yarran returning home to Western Australia, Balme said the Tigers would support him if he wanted to rejoin his junior WAFL club Swan Districts.
“Certainly if he wanted to play for Swan Districts we would support that entirely and we wouldn’t make it difficult for him at all,” Balme said.
“If he is playing footy for Swans, we’re barracking for him.”
Former Melbourne forward David Schwarz was one of those critical of the Yarran move on Wednesday, declaring it “a big bust” and suggesting that the former Blue found things difficult after Eddie Betts left Carlton at the end of 2013.
“They were good mates and I know Eddie was a mentor for him,” Schwarz told SEN.
“He just didn’t have that support mechanism, he didn’t have that buddy there that could help him through the tough times.
“Richmond, unfortunately were probably warned about Chris Yarran but they thought better. They thought they could turn him around.
“They knew he was a wonderful talent but he had a lot of stuff going on and unfortunately for the Tigers, probably not enough research in the end into just how troubled and how many things he had going on in his life.
“Richmond, they cop another one. A lack of due diligence that has probably cost them in the long run.
“Not being able to get Chris Yarran to the field at all in a couple of years of trying … that’s a real kick in the guts.
“It’s a big bust. You talk about trades, you talk about giving up to get something. We’ve seen a lot of bad trades over the last decade but that will go down as one of the really bad ones.”
Former AFL star Wayne Schwass told SEN he had advocated for more support for players’ mental health.
“We’ve got great medical teams and we’ve got big medical teams, some of the best in the world, (with) two or three doctors, six physios (and) eight masseurs, but we might have (only) one part-time or fulltime psychiatrist,” Schwass said.
“We need to reinvest some money into the welfare and the emotional intelligence of our playing group so that we can assist players dealing with injuries of the mind and not just injuries in a physical sense.
“These are young men thrust into a big environment, they’re forced to grow up really quickly and it’s not just about their physical preparation and performance and recovery.”
http://www.stuff-richmond-had-to-take-says-david-king-as-speedster-quits-to-deal-with-mental-health/news-story/b248fe8f96683281c7c0d53c526d5dd4
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“You can’t just say that it’s a bad decision because it didn’t work out.
Yes you can. What you cant do is try and dress this up so people dont get sacked and think that the punters are going to buy poo like this.
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I dont get the thinking of keeping him on the list for 2017?
why waste a spot on our list? why not use it to give an extra kid a chance?
Can the club explain why? bc this is the type of stuff that makes me lose my poo at this club
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I dont get the thinking of keeping him on the list for 2017?
why waste a spot on our list? why not use it to give an extra kid a chance?
Can the club explain why? bc this is the type of stuff that makes me lose my poo at this club
at the very least, surely they can put him on the LTI list.
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Ok.
They can shove their mental health up their arses.
He rorted them and they were so stupid, they let it happen.
Personal issues aren't mentaland the club has perpetuated lies to cover their woeful mistake(s)
That's it.
Football circles were aware of the issues but not the rfc.
Well that's just biullshit from the criminals.
You expect to win a flag with lies and unaccountability ?
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I dont get the thinking of keeping him on the list for 2017?
why waste a spot on our list? why not use it to give an extra kid a chance?
Could be wrong here, but I think I read somewhere that they had no other option due to the timing?
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https://youtu.be/zjedLeVGcfE
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https://youtu.be/zjedLeVGcfE
:rollin
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I dont get the thinking of keeping him on the list for 2017?
why waste a spot on our list? why not use it to give an extra kid a chance?
Can the club explain why? bc this is the type of stuff that makes me lose my poo at this club
at the very least, surely they can put him on the LTI list.
Yes they can
And most probably will
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The good news keeps on coming from tigerland, we apparently save 700K from the salary cap for the nesxt 2 years. Hopefully they stitch up Dusty with most of it.
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Ok.
They can shove their mental health up their arses.
He rorted them and they were so stupid, they let it happen.
Personal issues aren't mentaland the club has perpetuated lies to cover their woeful mistake(s)
That's it.
Football circles were aware of the issues but not the rfc.
Well that's just biullpoo from the criminals.
You expect to win a flag with lies and unaccountability ?
I also dont expect to win a flag while supporters believe hampson is any good
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I dont get the thinking of keeping him on the list for 2017?
why waste a spot on our list? why not use it to give an extra kid a chance?
Can the club explain why? bc this is the type of stuff that makes me lose my poo at this club
Because we have no choice, final list lodgements are done
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I dont get the thinking of keeping him on the list for 2017?
why waste a spot on our list? why not use it to give an extra kid a chance?
Can the club explain why? bc this is the type of stuff that makes me lose my poo at this club
Because we have no choice, final list lodgements are done
So missed the cutoff date?
:facepalm
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Ok.
They can shove their mental health up their arses.
He rorted them and they were so stupid, they let it happen.
Personal issues aren't mentaland the club has perpetuated lies to cover their woeful mistake(s)
That's it.
Football circles were aware of the issues but not the rfc.
Well that's just biullpoo from the criminals.
You expect to win a flag with lies and unaccountability ?
I also dont expect to win a flag while supporters believe hampson is any good
It's jut the rose coloured glasses mentality of our supporters which embraces mediocrity :banghead
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drinking with the enemy didn't go down too well :snidegrin
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:lol
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https://youtu.be/zjedLeVGcfE
I kinda feel sorry for the players and the twitter/media/ social media circus they live inside now. One little stuff up is magnified into being Atilla the Hun.
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The good news keeps on coming from tigerland, we apparently save 700K from the salary cap for the nesxt 2 years. Hopefully they stitch up Dusty with most of it.
use it for Fyfe........
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Re-sign Martin first before we start worrying about Fyfe....and even then I'd rather wait & see how he comes back from his second broken leg in 12 months before throwing money at him.....
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hypothetical, do people think we'd be in the mix to win a flag if we got fyfe?
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hypothetical, do people think we'd be in the mix to win a flag if we got fyfe?
Seriously no.
We need a A grade ruck not the C/D grade we currently have, this is the biggest gap we have.
Next is a KPF, the RFC is banking on Griffiths but I don't think he will do it consistently enough.
Next is a KPD, if Rance goes down we are stuffed.
We may also be short a top quality mid but will wait to see how Prestia and Caddy go
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Interesting opinion there Chuck
Please refer to Western Bulldogs list that won the flag
Enough said
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Interesting opinion there Chuck
Please refer to Western Bulldogs list that won the flag
Enough said
Their smaller players are much more quality than ours, if we want to follow their structure we would need to move on a host of players that are currently in our side getting a game without having to compete for their spot; Grigg, Houli, Griffiths, Astbury, Conca, BEllis and also Lennon, Lambert and CEllis plus a few others I can't think of just now
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Interesting though
After going to and watching the game over about 4 times
I think we matched the dogs when we played at Etihad and should of won in my opinion
Also when we played Swans at the G , we probably should of won by 2-3 , not a kick after the siren
In my opinion , at out best we are extremely competitive
Problem is our depth when players get injured
McIntosh and Houli left large holes that we didn't replace during the year
Even run with injuries and we will return to top 8
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McIntosh and Houli left large holes that we didn't replace during the year
Your be got to be stuffing kidding Jack. Houli left a large hole?
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Agree on Jackstars point about our ability against some of the better sides. The main issue I see with our team is resiliance when things don't go our way. We buckle at the knees far to easily when the heat is applied and Houli is one of the biggest culprits (as was Lids)
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McIntosh and Houli left large holes that we didn't replace during the year
Your be got to be stuffing kidding Jack. Houli left a large hole?
Yes he did. A large hole in clanger counts.
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McIntosh and Houli left large holes that we didn't replace during the year
Your be got to be stuffing kidding Jack. Houli left a large hole?
Yep
I have all games recorded and recently re watched them
Interesting we played better when Houli played
Inside F50 count considerably down we he and McIntosh didn't play
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McIntosh and Houli left large holes that we didn't replace during the year
Your be got to be stuffing kidding Jack. Houli left a large hole?
Yep
I have all games recorded and recently re watched them
Interesting we played better when Houli played
Inside F50 count considerably down we he and McIntosh didn't play
So are you saying its because we get better metres gained from half back which pushes everyone playing deeper (closer to goal)?
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We kicked higher scores and were much more competitive when either or both were playing
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Geez ....again with this clueless crap....you really are a glutton for punishment:
11 games with Houli - 2 wins, 9 losses.
10 games without Houli - 6 wins, 4 losses.
FACT.
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Geez ....again with this clueless crap....you really are a glutton for punishment:
11 games with Houli - 2 wins, 9 losses.
10 games without Houli - 6 wins, 4 losses.
FACT.
Is that for real?
If so, Jack what the hell are you talking about?
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I suppose Houli looked good streaming out the back line with no man in site.
Shame about the unaccountability to defend or how the kicks end up
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Geez ....again with this clueless crap....you really are a glutton for punishment:
11 games with Houli - 2 wins, 9 losses.
10 games without Houli - 6 wins, 4 losses.
FACT.
Is that for real?
If so, Jack what the hell are you talking about?
Yes - went through the same thing a couple of months ago just after the season ended when he was making the same ridiculous claim......a bit slow on the uptake is old Jack it seems.....
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Geez ....again with this clueless crap....you really are a glutton for punishment:
11 games with Houli - 2 wins, 9 losses.
10 games without Houli - 6 wins, 4 losses.
FACT.
Is that for real?
If so, Jack what the hell are you talking about?
Yes - went through the same thing a couple of months ago just after the season ended when he was making the same ridiculous claim......a bit slow on the uptake is old Jack it seems.....
So why would anyone argue something which is known o be factually untrue?
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Geez ....again with this clueless crap....you really are a glutton for punishment:
11 games with Houli - 2 wins, 9 losses.
10 games without Houli - 6 wins, 4 losses.
FACT.
Watch the games
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Geez ....again with this clueless crap....you really are a glutton for punishment:
11 games with Houli - 2 wins, 9 losses.
10 games without Houli - 6 wins, 4 losses.
FACT.
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Is that for real?
If so, Jack what the hell are you talking about?
Give you some advice
Stop agreeing with Internet try hards
Watch the games and make your own opinions
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Geez ....again with this clueless crap....you really are a glutton for punishment:
11 games with Houli - 2 wins, 9 losses.
10 games without Houli - 6 wins, 4 losses.
FACT.
Is that for real?
If so, Jack what the hell are you talking about?
Yes - went through the same thing a couple of months ago just after the season ended when he was making the same ridiculous claim......a bit slow on the uptake is old Jack it seems.....
So why would anyone argue something which is known o be factually untrue?
Watch the game and stop agreeing with keyboard warriors who wouldnt know
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You still arguing with the same FACT?
....or do you have a magic television where the results change when you watch games again? Can I come over & re-watch our last three finals on your magic tv? :gotigers
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Hey Jack - when you watch replays of the Fremantle game from 2015 on this magical result-reversing tv of yours, does Houli just kick it down the line or does he still go down the guts but Mundy misses?
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Hey Jack - when you watch replays of the Fremantle game from 2015 on this magical result-reversing tv of yours, does Houli just kick it down the line or does he still go down the guts but Mundy misses?
oh how convenient, you pick the one stuff up he made in order to suit your argument/narrative. All players make dumb errors, Alex Rance has made a bucket load of them.
as for your little stat earlier... oh yeah, pick the yeah the TEAM AS A WHOLE plays like poo to suit your argument. How about this for a stat? 2015... 23 games played WITH Houli... 15 wins, 8 losses.
i am sorry, I don't like to talk like a douche but since this is how you basically treat everyone I decided to go ahead and do it
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Hey Jack - when you watch replays of the Fremantle game from 2015 on this magical result-reversing tv of yours, does Houli just kick it down the line or does he still go down the guts but Mundy misses?
oh how convenient, you pick the one stuff up he made in order to suit your argument/narrative. All players make dumb errors, Alex Rance has made a bucket load of them.
as for your little stat earlier... oh yeah, pick the yeah the TEAM AS A WHOLE plays like poo to suit your argument. How about this for a stat? 2015... 23 games played WITH Houli... 15 wins, 8 losses.
i am sorry, I don't like to talk like a douche but since this is how you basically treat everyone I decided to go ahead and do it
Post of the decade!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey Jack - when you watch replays of the Fremantle game from 2015 on this magical result-reversing tv of yours, does Houli just kick it down the line or does he still go down the guts but Mundy misses?
oh how convenient, you pick the one stuff up he made in order to suit your argument/narrative. All players make dumb errors, Alex Rance has made a bucket load of them.
as for your little stat earlier... oh yeah, pick the yeah the TEAM AS A WHOLE plays like poo to suit your argument. How about this for a stat? 2015... 23 games played WITH Houli... 15 wins, 8 losses.
i am sorry, I don't like to talk like a douche but since this is how you basically treat everyone I decided to go ahead and do it
tell me champ....how does the stat that we won three times as many matches from one less start this year with Houli out not contradict Jackstar's assertion that "we missed Houli and played better with him in the side"? Do you also recall Houli leading the league in clangers before his injury - or do you have some hilarious excuse for that as well?
btw champ ..the second post was more of a joke than anything....maybe try and learn to recognise subtext before you start shouting the odds....yet again.....
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Name calling again, very average post.
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So WAT, do you agree that we missed Houli this year and played better when he was in the side?
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ok, I apologise if I misread
and I'll admit, no we didn't miss him this year..
We may have played better without him in the side.. But correlation doesn't mean causation
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Hey Jack - when you watch replays of the Fremantle game from 2015 on this magical result-reversing tv of yours, does Houli just kick it down the line or does he still go down the guts but Mundy misses?
I suggest you gain employment at an AFL club
With this post
Most ridiculous post of all time
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You still arguing with the same FACT?
....or do you have a magic television where the results change when you watch games again? Can I come over & re-watch our last three finals on your magic tv? :gotigers
Wasn't Houlis fault we lost
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So WAT, do you agree that we missed Houli this year and played better when he was in the side?
Play better brand of football with Bachar in the team
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Geez ....again with this clueless crap....you really are a glutton for punishment:
11 games with Houli - 2 wins, 9 losses.
10 games without Houli - 6 wins, 4 losses.
FACT.
Watch the games
I will tell you what I see from watching the games;
* Houli streaming out of the back line without an opposition player in sight because he plays the role of a release player
* a soft defender with no hardness what so ever.
* opposition teams coming out of the back line targeting Houlis position because they know he is soft
* for someone who generally has no pressure on his possessions he sure as hell stuffs a lot of them up
Similar to the Hampson and Hunt debates playing these sorts of players will not get us any further, they are stop gap players who ensure we are a middling side at best. In fact I would argue that playing these types of players sets a bad example for young upcoming players and influences how they develop.
But hey if you are happy where we are as a side, and like watching Houli streaming unaccountably out of the back line and like watching Hampson tap the ball indiscriminately and like Hunt acting like a scared defender then who am I stop you.
Welcome to the road of no where for another 30 odd years
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Chuck
That is not the view from opposition clubs or from the RFC
Internally the players you mentioned are seen as vital players in the club going forward
The players you mentioned I will call " easy targets "
Example Taylor Hunt
Ask the opposition players who have played on him
They say pretty hard player to get away from
Hunt played some shocking games in the first part of the season
Had interrupted pre season which showed
Went back to the VFL and worked hard at another of things
His last half of the year was very serviceable where he played most games at AFL and performed well
Pointless bagging players who actually have a decent go
Think you should look closely and game plans etc as this was the bigger issue in 2016
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Well, im confused. :huh
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Taylor Hunt played 17 games this year and averaged 18 posssesions a game
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Hey Jack - when you watch replays of the Fremantle game from 2015 on this magical result-reversing tv of yours, does Houli just kick it down the line or does he still go down the guts but Mundy misses?
as for your little stat earlier... oh yeah, pick the yeah the TEAM AS A WHOLE plays like poo to suit your argument. How about this for a stat? 2015... 23 games played WITH Houli... 15 wins, 8 losses.
:gobdrop Imagine how many we could have won if we dropped him
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Houli goes ok but just has too many brain fades for a player of his experience. In fact, I'd argue he's decision making in crucial moments is now worse. In clutch moments he looks like a player who doesn't want the responsibility to win the match.
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I recall one of the mods (think it was WP) going to a pre-game function/similar early in the year where the gameplan was explained and it was argued that the problem was the players werent implementing it.
It was then picked up at the game that Rance was baking Houli for taking the non-gameplan options on the field and we were leaking goals.
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I recall one of the mods (think it was WP) going to a pre-game function/similar early in the year where the gameplan was explained and it was argued that the problem was the players werent implementing it.
It was then picked up at the game that Rance was baking Houli for taking the non-gameplan options on the field and we were leaking goals.
ca ching, that was certainly my take after spending a game in the coaches box
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I recall one of the mods (think it was WP) going to a pre-game function/similar early in the year where the gameplan was explained and it was argued that the problem was the players werent implementing it.
It was then picked up at the game that Rance was baking Houli for taking the non-gameplan options on the field and we were leaking goals.
ca ching, that was certainly my take after spending a game in the coaches box
So why are these senior players who do not follow the game plan dropped? Not dropping them creates a poor culture. We have been suffering from poor culture for over 30 years....
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I recall one of the mods (think it was WP) going to a pre-game function/similar early in the year where the gameplan was explained and it was argued that the problem was the players werent implementing it.
It was then picked up at the game that Rance was baking Houli for taking the non-gameplan options on the field and we were leaking goals.
ca ching, that was certainly my take after spending a game in the coaches box
So why are these senior players who do not follow the game plan dropped? Not dropping them creates a poor culture. We have been suffering from poor culture for over 30 years....
Maybe they satisfy the mediocrity accepting clappers
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So if Rance is baking him, and the Coaches are baking him, how exactly do we play better as a team with him?
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A better "brand" apparently.... :shh
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A better "brand" apparently.... :shh
Like 'Great Wall' is better than 'Lexus' better?
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Home Brand Houli.... :clapping
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Houli hasn't got a competitive bone in his body. He is a dud and a big part of the reason we are where we are. His efforts sometimes are laughable. He is in the Bellis ballpark of pathetic.
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Yarran may have another crack at AFL: Betts
"I've had some contact with him. He's back in WA living in Perth, so he's doing good," Adelaide star Betts told 5AA.
"I think he's going to play for a WAFL side over there, Swan Districts, where he played when he was younger.
"He (Yarran) actually said to me that if you look at what Nathan Krakouer did, he gave up footy, went back to WA, got his life back on track and gave it another crack and now he's back playing for Port Adelaide.
"I guess Chris can look at someone like that and hopefully get his life back on track and try again to play AFL footy."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-01-19/chris-yarran-may-have-another-crack-at-the-afl-says-eddie-betts
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Sources who are friends with him tell me he's just not made to be living in Melb, if he plays again it will be for a w.a side
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Why?
Not sure a different city is going to cure his problems.
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Why?
Not sure a different city is going to cure his problems.
pee is cheaper in WA
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Yarran may have another crack at AFL: Betts
"I've had some contact with him. He's back in WA living in Perth, so he's doing good," Adelaide star Betts told 5AA.
"I think he's going to play for a WAFL side over there, Swan Districts, where he played when he was younger.
"He (Yarran) actually said to me that if you look at what Nathan Krakouer did, he gave up footy, went back to WA, got his life back on track and gave it another crack and now he's back playing for Port Adelaide.
"I guess Chris can look at someone like that and hopefully get his life back on track and try again to play AFL footy."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-01-19/chris-yarran-may-have-another-crack-at-the-afl-says-eddie-betts
This irks me bigtime. Good enough to play in the wafl and commit himself yet had everything on a platter for him for last 2 years to get better and recover by the club and walked away after what a couple of training sessions.Our club got there pants pulled down by him and his manager.
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Time to move on, embarrassed again by an old rival
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Will we get any compo for him then?? If he plays again, surely the AFL would have to look at that.
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Will we get any compo for him then?? If he plays again, surely the AFL would have to look at that.
Why?
This is called "buyer beware"
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Will we get any compo for him then?? If he plays again, surely the AFL would have to look at that.
Why?
This is called "buyer beware"
Well we paid him for a season and he didn't play, he then walked on his contract, did he pay the money back?? I doubt it, the AFL needs to consider these matters in it's entirety and not just as "buyer beware". If he plays at another club does that mean he just didnt want to be in Melbourne, more questions would need to be asked.
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Will we get any compo for him then?? If he plays again, surely the AFL would have to look at that.
Why?
This is called "buyer beware"
Well we paid him for a season and he didn't play, he then walked on his contract, did he pay the money back?? I doubt it, the AFL needs to consider these matters in it's entirety and not just as "buyer beware". If he plays at another club does that mean he just didnt want to be in Melbourne, more questions would need to be asked.
He walked out on his Contract?
He retired and didn't get his contract paid out. So why any need for compo
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Was he under contract with us? Yes. So does that mean if he comes back to play he is still under contract? If he retired then that should be it.
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Was he under contract with us? Yes. So does that mean if he comes back to play he is still under contract? If he retired then that should be it.
They have effectively completed a seperation agreement.
Unless Richmond have put a no compete clause which would be unheard of in sport, he can come back when he likes.
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Was he under contract with us? Yes. So does that mean if he comes back to play he is still under contract? If he retired then that should be it.
They have effectively completed a seperation agreement.
Unless Richmond have put a no compete clause which would be unheard of in sport, he can come back when he likes.
Yes he was under contracted, when he retired the contract was cancelled and not paid out. as Y&B said they they agreed he'd walk from the contract with both parties no longer bound by it
If he choses to play footy in 2017 he is allowed to
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Ah, ok, very good, cheers.
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I know that if I don't turn up to work I don't get paid.
Seems crazy we had to pay him.
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I know that if I don't turn up to work I don't get paid.
Seems crazy we had to pay him.
Not totally true. If you claim (mental) illness, I would assume you have a certain amount of sick leave. The problem here is how much sick leave....
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I know that if I don't turn up to work I don't get paid.
Seems crazy we had to pay him.
Not totally true. If you claim (mental) illness, I would assume you have a certain amount of sick leave. The problem here is how much sick leave....
10 days a year is the norm, and it accrues.
He would have been lucky to have accrued a week worth let alone a years worth.
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I know that if I don't turn up to work I don't get paid.
Seems crazy we had to pay him.
Not totally true. If you claim (mental) illness, I would assume you have a certain amount of sick leave. The problem here is how much sick leave....
10 days a year is the norm, and it accrues.
He would have been lucky to have accrued a week worth let alone a years worth.
True, but these guys are on different contracts. Also if you claim your illness is work related, workcare will/should pay you.
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They can always sue him in twelve months
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CHRIS Yarran is unlikely to play in the WAFL this year as he continues an indefinite break from all senior football.
His original club Swan Districts had hoped to convince the former Richmond and Carlton defender to play in 2017.
But the 26-year-old has not trained for the past month after spending time at Swans in the lead-up to Christmas. He has no immediate plans for a comeback after retiring from the AFL in November.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/former-richmond-defender-chris-yarran-unlikely-for-2017-wafl-return/news-story/4843d007952dae7ba76776ac1e9b9365
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Chris, walk away mate. Just keep away from the game.
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CHRIS Yarran is unlikely to play in the WAFL this year as he continues an indefinite break from all senior football.
His original club Swan Districts had hoped to convince the former Richmond and Carlton defender to play in 2017.
But the 26-year-old has not trained for the past month after spending time at Swans in the lead-up to Christmas. He has no immediate plans for a comeback after retiring from the AFL in November.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/former-richmond-defender-chris-yarran-unlikely-for-2017-wafl-return/news-story/4843d007952dae7ba76776ac1e9b9365
?? when was he in defence for us?
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CHRIS Yarran is unlikely to play in the WAFL this year as he continues an indefinite break from all senior football.
His original club Swan Districts had hoped to convince the former Richmond and Carlton defender to play in 2017.
But the 26-year-old has not trained for the past month after spending time at Swans in the lead-up to Christmas. He has no immediate plans for a comeback after retiring from the AFL in November.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/former-richmond-defender-chris-yarran-unlikely-for-2017-wafl-return/news-story/4843d007952dae7ba76776ac1e9b9365
?? when was he in defence for us?
We defended him the entire time he was at the club
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CHRIS Yarran is unlikely to play in the WAFL this year as he continues an indefinite break from all senior football.
His original club Swan Districts had hoped to convince the former Richmond and Carlton defender to play in 2017.
But the 26-year-old has not trained for the past month after spending time at Swans in the lead-up to Christmas. He has no immediate plans for a comeback after retiring from the AFL in November.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/former-richmond-defender-chris-yarran-unlikely-for-2017-wafl-return/news-story/4843d007952dae7ba76776ac1e9b9365
?? when was he in defence for us?
We defended him the entire time he was at the club
We did. Not sure why though.
If theres a lesson in this, its to call things as they are...
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Chris, walk away mate. Just keep away from the game.
Why? Returning at a lower level could be great for his mental health. If he wants to play, let him play
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CHRIS Yarran is unlikely to play in the WAFL this year as he continues an indefinite break from all senior football.
His original club Swan Districts had hoped to convince the former Richmond and Carlton defender to play in 2017.
But the 26-year-old has not trained for the past month after spending time at Swans in the lead-up to Christmas. He has no immediate plans for a comeback after retiring from the AFL in November.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/former-richmond-defender-chris-yarran-unlikely-for-2017-wafl-return/news-story/4843d007952dae7ba76776ac1e9b9365
?? when was he in defence for us?
Apparently he did actually play a match for us...but only WAT noticed him..... :shh
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Still can not believe how little criticism they benny and the crew have recieved over this. I suppose mention the word depression and all and sundry run from it.
What an appalling decision this was right from the get go and people should not forget the negligence and incompetence of the club in this matter depression or no depression.
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Still can not believe how little criticism they benny and the crew have recieved over this. I suppose mention the word depression and all and sundry run from it.
What an appalling decision this was right from the get go and people should not forget the negligence and incompetence of the club in this matter depression or no depression.
Yep, can't argue with that Claw. Moreover, they were obliged to share something from the so called football review which identified the root cause issue in their due diligence and learning for next time. I guess saying you took a reckless risk doesn't cast you in the brightest light.
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The claims I heard about Yarran at the time were quite disturbing, and nothing that has transpired since has suggested what I heard was incorrect
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Yep, huge blunder from the club, no matter which way you slice it. Not least because his serious issues were well known in footy circles.
To think Carlscum wanted more from us! >:(
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Still can not believe how little criticism they benny and the crew have recieved over this. I suppose mention the word depression and all and sundry run from it.
What an appalling decision this was right from the get go and people should not forget the negligence and incompetence of the club in this matter depression or no depression.
You can understand why they are desperate to market Hampson to the masses with his "improvement" and his 2 year extension on the back of it and their supposed take no poo from anyome attitude they showed with Bennell
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The claims I heard about Yarran at the time were quite disturbing, and nothing that has transpired since has suggested what I heard was incorrect
PM :shh
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We've officially cleared Yarran to Swan Districts.
‘Wildcard’ Yarran set for WAFL return
John Townsend
West Australian
13 April 2017
Chris Yarran has been officially cleared by Richmond and will play for Swan Districts on Saturday, subject to final approval by the AFL.
The silky utility player, who last November was released from his three-year deal at Richmond to help in his battle with mental illness, will tonight be named in the reserves as he starts his comeback to senior football.
The AFL integrity department must sign off on his return to action, but both Swans and the WAFL expect that to be a formality.
“We hope he gets ticked off in the next day or two,” Swans coach Greg Harding said.
The AFL must officially approve Yarran’s removal from Richmond’s 2017 list, but he has been registered as a WAFL player and his transfer from the Tigers has been completed.
Yarran, 26, has been training at Swans for the past two months and is in line to play his first match for the black and whites since the 2008 grand final. Harding told the club’s website that Yarran could prove a significant figure as Swans attempt to maintain their winning start to the season.
“His last six weeks of training have been excellent,” Harding said.
“If Yaz can stay fit, he looms as a real wild-card for us in the back end of the season.”
Swans have a powerful record under Harding in helping player rehabilitation after significant setbacks.
Travis Casserly and Kane Goodwin both made successful returns at the club this decade after serving two-year WAFL drug bans, while Fremantle star Michael Walters re-ignited his AFL career after being sent back to Swans for the first half of the 2012 season to work on his fitness and commitment.
Yarran was taken by Carlton at No.6 in the 2008 national draft after a maiden WAFL season that included a seven-goal debut.
He played 119 matches in seven seasons at the Blues, but did not play a game at Richmond after being traded in 2015.
Yarran battled a series of soft-tissue and mental health issues in his first year at the Tigers and quit the club on medical advice to return to Perth at the end of the season.
Yarran grew up in Bushby Street, Midvale, one of the most productive AFL assembly lines in the country that also yielded his cousin Shane Yarran, who had a brief stint at Fremantle, West Coast’s Nic Naitanui and Walters. He joins Jamie Bennell, Ryan Crowley, David Ellard, Xavier Ellis and Corey Gault as former AFL players to bolster Swans this year.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/chris-yarran-cleared-by-richmond-to-play-for-swan-districts-on-saturday-ng-b88444947z
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We've officially cleared Yarran to Swan Districts.
‘Wildcard’ Yarran set for WAFL return
John Townsend
West Australian
13 April 2017
Chris Yarran has been officially cleared by Richmond and will play for Swan Districts on Saturday, subject to final approval by the AFL.
The silky utility player, who last November was released from his three-year deal at Richmond to help in his battle with mental illness, will tonight be named in the reserves as he starts his comeback to senior football.
The AFL integrity department must sign off on his return to action, but both Swans and the WAFL expect that to be a formality.
“We hope he gets ticked off in the next day or two,” Swans coach Greg Harding said.
The AFL must officially approve Yarran’s removal from Richmond’s 2017 list, but he has been registered as a WAFL player and his transfer from the Tigers has been completed.
Yarran, 26, has been training at Swans for the past two months and is in line to play his first match for the black and whites since the 2008 grand final. Harding told the club’s website that Yarran could prove a significant figure as Swans attempt to maintain their winning start to the season.
“His last six weeks of training have been excellent,” Harding said.
“If Yaz can stay fit, he looms as a real wild-card for us in the back end of the season.”
Swans have a powerful record under Harding in helping player rehabilitation after significant setbacks.
Travis Casserly and Kane Goodwin both made successful returns at the club this decade after serving two-year WAFL drug bans, while Fremantle star Michael Walters re-ignited his AFL career after being sent back to Swans for the first half of the 2012 season to work on his fitness and commitment.
Yarran was taken by Carlton at No.6 in the 2008 national draft after a maiden WAFL season that included a seven-goal debut.
He played 119 matches in seven seasons at the Blues, but did not play a game at Richmond after being traded in 2015.
Yarran battled a series of soft-tissue and mental health issues in his first year at the Tigers and quit the club on medical advice to return to Perth at the end of the season.
Yarran grew up in Bushby Street, Midvale, one of the most productive AFL assembly lines in the country that also yielded his cousin Shane Yarran, who had a brief stint at Fremantle, West Coast’s Nic Naitanui and Walters. He joins Jamie Bennell, Ryan Crowley, David Ellard, Xavier Ellis and Corey Gault as former AFL players to bolster Swans this year.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/chris-yarran-cleared-by-richmond-to-play-for-swan-districts-on-saturday-ng-b88444947z
EFF OFF mercinary
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We've officially cleared Yarran to Swan Districts.
‘Wildcard’ Yarran set for WAFL return
John Townsend
West Australian
13 April 2017
Chris Yarran has been officially cleared by Richmond and will play for Swan Districts on Saturday, subject to final approval by the AFL.
The silky utility player, who last November was released from his three-year deal at Richmond to help in his battle with mental illness, will tonight be named in the reserves as he starts his comeback to senior football.
The AFL integrity department must sign off on his return to action, but both Swans and the WAFL expect that to be a formality.
“We hope he gets ticked off in the next day or two,” Swans coach Greg Harding said.
The AFL must officially approve Yarran’s removal from Richmond’s 2017 list, but he has been registered as a WAFL player and his transfer from the Tigers has been completed.
Yarran, 26, has been training at Swans for the past two months and is in line to play his first match for the black and whites since the 2008 grand final. Harding told the club’s website that Yarran could prove a significant figure as Swans attempt to maintain their winning start to the season.
“His last six weeks of training have been excellent,” Harding said.
“If Yaz can stay fit, he looms as a real wild-card for us in the back end of the season.”
Swans have a powerful record under Harding in helping player rehabilitation after significant setbacks.
Travis Casserly and Kane Goodwin both made successful returns at the club this decade after serving two-year WAFL drug bans, while Fremantle star Michael Walters re-ignited his AFL career after being sent back to Swans for the first half of the 2012 season to work on his fitness and commitment.
Yarran was taken by Carlton at No.6 in the 2008 national draft after a maiden WAFL season that included a seven-goal debut.
He played 119 matches in seven seasons at the Blues, but did not play a game at Richmond after being traded in 2015.
Yarran battled a series of soft-tissue and mental health issues in his first year at the Tigers and quit the club on medical advice to return to Perth at the end of the season.
Yarran grew up in Bushby Street, Midvale, one of the most productive AFL assembly lines in the country that also yielded his cousin Shane Yarran, who had a brief stint at Fremantle, West Coast’s Nic Naitanui and Walters. He joins Jamie Bennell, Ryan Crowley, David Ellard, Xavier Ellis and Corey Gault as former AFL players to bolster Swans this year.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/chris-yarran-cleared-by-richmond-to-play-for-swan-districts-on-saturday-ng-b88444947z
EFF OFF mercinary
Totally agree with that.Camed back to Melbourne did what 2 training sessions and then said that's it yet goes back to WA and is fit to play and been training. I dont want to hear exuses he's with family load of crap.No time for this bloke and his manager.
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CHRIS Yarran’s next step in his comeback to football proved successful when he cruised through half a game for Swan Districts reserves at East Fremantle Oval.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/former-carlton-and-richmond-defender-chris-yarran-eases-into-action-for-swan-districts-reserves/news-story/c90a7064f9ab0b8fbb36236c06c06c9e
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I'm happy for the bloke If he uses the game to get back to some form of mental health which enables him to lead a normal life.
I blame the clubs stupidity and overinflated sense of rehabilitation capability for us being part of his tragic AFL football ending
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I'm happy for the bloke If he uses the game to get back to some form of mental health which enables him to lead a normal life.
I blame the clubs stupidity and overinflated sense of rehabilitation capability for us being part of his tragic AFL football ending
I'm a bit the same HRT.
I wish him all the best.
It's only footy and without even knowing him, his health is more important.
It didn't work for us but so be it. We move on.
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Who'd want to play under hardwick.
Blame that stuffn loser
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Who'd want to play under hardwick.
Blame that stuffn loser
Not to mention the other liars at the club like Gale.
Told the members at the AGM last year that Yarran's payout was in last years TPP and he was not on the list for 2017.
Both LIES.
He is on the list for 2017 and as such cannot be paid out in last years TPP.
While the figures remain confidential they can LIE as much as they like and get away with it.
Good governance? What a joke.
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DISGRACEFUL
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I demand satisfaction. >:(
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I am a fully paid member and I want an accounting for this
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I demand to be sucked to satisfaction!
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I demand to be sucked to satisfaction!
:lol
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Who'd want to play under hardwick.
Blame that stuffn loser
Not to mention the other liars at the club like Gale.
Told the members at the AGM last year that Yarran's payout was in last years TPP and he was not on the list for 2017.
Both LIES.
He is on the list for 2017 and as such cannot be paid out in last years TPP.
While the figures remain confidential they can LIE as much as they like and get away with it.
Good governance? What a joke.
Move on :thumbsup
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Who'd want to play under hardwick.
Blame that stuffn loser
Not to mention the other liars at the club like Gale.
Told the members at the AGM last year that Yarran's payout was in last years TPP and he was not on the list for 2017.
Both LIES.
He is on the list for 2017 and as such cannot be paid out in last years TPP.
While the figures remain confidential they can LIE as much as they like and get away with it.
Good governance? What a joke.
I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort
Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.
What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.
Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media
Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for October:
Thursday 6 October to Sunday 9 October – AFL Draft Combine
Friday 7 October – Free Agency Period commences
Monday 10 October – Trade Period commences
Sunday 16 October – Free Agency Period closes
Thursday 20 October – Trade Period closes
Monday 31 October – First list lodgement due
Key dates for November:
Tuesday 1 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Tuesday 8 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Wednesday 9 November – Second list lodgement due
Thursday 10 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Friday 18 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Friday 25 November – National Draft in Sydney
Monday 28 November – Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due
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Chris who?
I was hoping to close that chapter and move on but others want to keep it simmering as if that will somehow help the club be a premiership contender.
Some people just can't let go. You need to learn to do that in life. You'll be happier for it too.
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Who'd want to play under hardwick.
Blame that stuffn loser
Not to mention the other liars at the club like Gale.
Told the members at the AGM last year that Yarran's payout was in last years TPP and he was not on the list for 2017.
Both LIES.
He is on the list for 2017 and as such cannot be paid out in last years TPP.
While the figures remain confidential they can LIE as much as they like and get away with it.
Good governance? What a joke.
I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort
Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.
What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.
Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media
Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for October:
Thursday 6 October to Sunday 9 October – AFL Draft Combine
Friday 7 October – Free Agency Period commences
Monday 10 October – Trade Period commences
Sunday 16 October – Free Agency Period closes
Thursday 20 October – Trade Period closes
Monday 31 October – First list lodgement due
Key dates for November:
Tuesday 1 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Tuesday 8 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Wednesday 9 November – Second list lodgement due
Thursday 10 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Friday 18 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Friday 25 November – National Draft in Sydney
Monday 28 November – Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due
Why is it poor form to call someone a liar on social media?
Not trying to be smart but if you think they are lying why not say it??
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Hardwick is a liar.
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Who'd want to play under hardwick.
Blame that stuffn loser
Not to mention the other liars at the club like Gale.
Told the members at the AGM last year that Yarran's payout was in last years TPP and he was not on the list for 2017.
Both LIES.
He is on the list for 2017 and as such cannot be paid out in last years TPP.
While the figures remain confidential they can LIE as much as they like and get away with it.
Good governance? What a joke.
I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort
Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.
What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.
Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media
Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for October:
Thursday 6 October to Sunday 9 October – AFL Draft Combine
Friday 7 October – Free Agency Period commences
Monday 10 October – Trade Period commences
Sunday 16 October – Free Agency Period closes
Thursday 20 October – Trade Period closes
Monday 31 October – First list lodgement due
Key dates for November:
Tuesday 1 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Tuesday 8 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Wednesday 9 November – Second list lodgement due
Thursday 10 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Friday 18 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Friday 25 November – National Draft in Sydney
Monday 28 November – Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due
Why is it poor form to call someone a liar on social media?
Not trying to be smart but if you think they are lying why not say it??
It's not as bad as lying on/In social media/media
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I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort
Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.
What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.
Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media
Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for November:
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due
At the AGM a member on the far side asked whether anyone had been held responsible for the Yarran decision. Peggy dismissed the question. That member then left the AGM.
I then asked specifically whether Yarran's payout was in this year's TPP and if he would be on the list for next year (ie 2017)
As said (and I listened closely since I asked the question) Gale replied that he was paid out in 2016 and not have a place next year.
You say that you "heard nothing of the sort" so you are saying that I am lying.
Poor form or just alternative facts?
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I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort
Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.
What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.
Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media
Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for November:
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due
At the AGM a member on the far side asked whether anyone had been held responsible for the Yarran decision. Peggy dismissed the question. That member then left the AGM.
I then asked specifically whether Yarran's payout was in this year's TPP and if he would be on the list for next year (ie 2017)
As said (and I listened closely since I asked the question) Gale replied that he was paid out in 2016 and not have a place next year.
You say that you "heard nothing of the sort" so you are saying that I am lying.
Poor form or just alternative facts?
My understanding was that he has been paid out but we were unable to delist him as the last list lodgement date had passed. So maybe his payment was included in the 2016 TPP but he had to remain on the list.
If that is the case, who cares?
Move on and enjoy our 4-0 start playing attacking footy.
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I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort
Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.
What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.
Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media
Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for November:
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due
At the AGM a member on the far side asked whether anyone had been held responsible for the Yarran decision. Peggy dismissed the question. That member then left the AGM.
I then asked specifically whether Yarran's payout was in this year's TPP and if he would be on the list for next year (ie 2017)
As said (and I listened closely since I asked the question) Gale replied that he was paid out in 2016 and not have a place next year.
You say that you "heard nothing of the sort" so you are saying that I am lying.
Poor form or just alternative facts?
not alternative facts at all, Balme had said a week previous to the AGM that Yarran was on the list in 2017, anyone with basic knowledge of the rules would know that to be the case , I certainly did.
Gale didnt say what you say he did, I'm not calling you a liar, maybe you misunderstood his answer.
It would appear you are attempting to rewrite history to suit an agenda ?
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Who'd want to play under hardwick.
Blame that stuffn loser
Not to mention the other liars at the club like Gale.
Told the members at the AGM last year that Yarran's payout was in last years TPP and he was not on the list for 2017.
Both LIES.
He is on the list for 2017 and as such cannot be paid out in last years TPP.
While the figures remain confidential they can LIE as much as they like and get away with it.
Good governance? What a joke.
I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort
Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.
What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.
Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media
Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for October:
Thursday 6 October to Sunday 9 October – AFL Draft Combine
Friday 7 October – Free Agency Period commences
Monday 10 October – Trade Period commences
Sunday 16 October – Free Agency Period closes
Thursday 20 October – Trade Period closes
Monday 31 October – First list lodgement due
Key dates for November:
Tuesday 1 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Tuesday 8 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Wednesday 9 November – Second list lodgement due
Thursday 10 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Friday 18 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Friday 25 November – National Draft in Sydney
Monday 28 November – Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due
Why is it poor form to call someone a liar on social media?
Not trying to be smart but if you think they are lying why not say it??
It's not as bad as lying on/In social media/media
Pardon ?
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My understanding was that he has been paid out but we were unable to delist him as the last list lodgement date had passed. So maybe his payment was included in the 2016 TPP but he had to remain on the list.
If that is the case, who cares?
Move on and enjoy our 4-0 start playing attacking footy.
Since Yarran is a 2017 listed player then his payments must go into the 2017 Total Player Payments.
The AFL limits club lists by both total number and Player Payments.
In the Yarran case we have given up both a list spot AND his payout for the 2017 season for NO return.
Very hard for me to move on when we could have had a contributor for the entire 2017 season, like a Rockliff.
Great that we are 4-0 but will this limit us toward the end of the season? Of course.
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My understanding was that he has been paid out but we were unable to delist him as the last list lodgement date had passed. So maybe his payment was included in the 2016 TPP but he had to remain on the list.
If that is the case, who cares?
Move on and enjoy our 4-0 start playing attacking footy.
Since Yarran is a 2017 listed player then his payments must go into the 2017 Total Player Payments.
The AFL limits club lists by both total number and Player Payments.
In the Yarran case we have given up both a list spot AND his payout for the 2017 season for NO return.
Very hard for me to move on when we could have had a contributor for the entire 2017 season, like a Rockliff.
Great that we are 4-0 but will this limit us toward the end of the season? Of course.
Not just a coincidence that the dirty prick waited till the final list lodgement date had passed before he pulled the plug.
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My understanding was that he has been paid out but we were unable to delist him as the last list lodgement date had passed. So maybe his payment was included in the 2016 TPP but he had to remain on the list.
If that is the case, who cares?
Move on and enjoy our 4-0 start playing attacking footy.
Since Yarran is a 2017 listed player then his payments must go into the 2017 Total Player Payments.
The AFL limits club lists by both total number and Player Payments.
In the Yarran case we have given up both a list spot AND his payout for the 2017 season for NO return.
Very hard for me to move on when we could have had a contributor for the entire 2017 season, like a Rockliff.
Great that we are 4-0 but will this limit us toward the end of the season? Of course.
Nothing stopping us saying his 2017 payment was $1.
They came to an agreement with a "payout" figure so I would imagine something like what I have suggested would have occurred.
On the case of Rockliff, no other club wanted him because of his "reputation". Even though he is a very good footballer, his personality allegedly may have undermined team harmony.
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Nothing stopping us saying his 2017 payment was $1.
FWIW
They did say at the AGM and again at another function I was at where Balme was the main speaker that yes there was a "small" financial settlement but it isn't the total value of his contract, it is less than his contract
It was payment to assist him in his move back to Perth
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COAS, wouldn't you think that the AFL would give us some wriggle room on our list on the basis of our compassionate attitude towards Chris and adherence to the AFL PLAYERS ASSOC. Code of conduct for clubs.
I know the bull had left the pen and probably Chris was trying to come good but wasn't up to it in the end.
Ultimately RFC has been disadvantaged by doing the right thing.
Perhaps we could have been given an option to select a non afl player we may have had our eye on after the trade period had closed.
We are not the only club affected by this and Chris not the only player at RFC to not play or reach their potential due to mental issues.
Any thoughts or could clubs use this as some sort of loophole?
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Nothing stopping us saying his 2017 payment was $1.
They came to an agreement with a "payout" figure so I would imagine something like what I have suggested would have occurred.
The date for finalisation of TPP is 31 October.
Our Financial Report was finalised on 31 October.
Yarran returned to train at Richmond on November 7 and continued to train until 21 November.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/chris-yarran-will-return-to-training-with-richmond-on-november-7/news-story/8d229f947499d594ba94c34b5f1d091d
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-21/yarran-progressing-as-stars-hit-the-track-in-scorching-heat
It was announced that Yarran was released on 22 November.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-releases-chris-yarran-from-his-contract-to-deal-with-health-issues/news-story/54c0c0a805d7ca330f8770df47cb8d90
The total of the negotiated payout for the last two years of Yarran's "significant" contract must be in the 2017 TPP.
Not $1.
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I think you should send an email to Neil Balme to get some clarification. :thumbsup
The club should own up to its mistakes and shouldn't be hiding it from the members.
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Nothing stopping us saying his 2017 payment was $1.
They came to an agreement with a "payout" figure so I would imagine something like what I have suggested would have occurred.
The date for finalisation of TPP is 31 October.
Our Financial Report was finalised on 31 October.
Yarran returned to train at Richmond on November 7 and continued to train until 21 November.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/chris-yarran-will-return-to-training-with-richmond-on-november-7/news-story/8d229f947499d594ba94c34b5f1d091d
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-21/yarran-progressing-as-stars-hit-the-track-in-scorching-heat
It was announced that Yarran was released on 22 November.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-releases-chris-yarran-from-his-contract-to-deal-with-health-issues/news-story/54c0c0a805d7ca330f8770df47cb8d90
The total of the negotiated payout for the last two years of Yarran's "significant" contract must be in the 2017 TPP.
Not $1.
You are wrong.
For 2016:
Wednesday 30 November 2pm - Final list lodgement; final TPP pre-Season estimates. October 31st was just the first list lodgement and first TPP pre- season estimate.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-2016-trade-free-agency-and-draft-dates-and-details-20160804-gqlfed.html
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You are wrong.
For 2016:
Wednesday 30 November 2pm - Final list lodgement; final TPP pre-Season estimates. October 31st was just the first list lodgement and first TPP pre- season estimate.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-2016-trade-free-agency-and-draft-dates-and-details-20160804-gqlfed.html
Look a bit closer.
All the dates you quote and which are in the article refer to arrangements for the 2017 season.
"final TPP pre-Season estimates."
As I posted previously, the date for 2016 TPP and 2016 club financials was October 31.
How could the club publish the 2016 Financial Report on 31 October and include a figure for Yarran negotiated some 3 weeks later.
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The truth is out there
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If we were close to the salary cap in 2016 then we could not payout Yarran that year. Would need to include the payout in 2017 and therefore had to keep him on the list.
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You are wrong.
For 2016:
Wednesday 30 November 2pm - Final list lodgement; final TPP pre-Season estimates. October 31st was just the first list lodgement and first TPP pre- season estimate.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-2016-trade-free-agency-and-draft-dates-and-details-20160804-gqlfed.html
Look a bit closer.
All the dates you quote and which are in the article refer to arrangements for the 2017 season.
"final TPP pre-Season estimates."
As I posted previously, the date for 2016 TPP and 2016 club financials was October 31.
How could the club publish the 2016 Financial Report on 31 October and include a figure for Yarran negotiated some 3 weeks later.
Its only you that is saying they did
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The truth is out there
Where is mulder and Scully when you need them?
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If we were close to the salary cap in 2016 then we could not payout Yarran that year. Would need to include the payout in 2017 and therefore had to keep him on the list.
There's a bit of leeway for retirements due to injury.
Its only you that is saying they did
:huh